What will happen next? Which side will back down? Will the French accept that to resist Sharia and Islamization is “Islamophobic”? Or will the Muslim groups wholeheartedly and sincerely adopt the values of the French Republic? What do you think?
“French Muslim Groups Censure Macron-Pushed ‘Republican Charter,’” Tasnim News Agency, January 23, 2021 (thanks to Henry):
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Three major Muslim organizations in France criticized a so-called anti-extremism charter pushed by the government of President Emmanuel Macron that will likely undermine “the honor of Muslims.”
“We believe that certain passages and formulations in the text submitted are likely to weaken the bonds of trust between the Muslims of France and the nation,” said the three groups — which make up the nine-member French Council of the Muslim Faith (CFCM).
“Furthermore, some statements are prejudicial to the honor of Muslims, with an accusatory and marginalizing tone,” they added in a Friday statement, referring to the text of a so-called anti-extremism charter pushed by Macron.
Macron has enraged Muslims world-wide by publicly supporting publication of a derogatory image of Islam’s Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and describing the Abrahamic faith of nearly 1.8 billion people as a “religion in crisis.”
“We obviously agree with the demand for non-interference by States, the non-instrumentalization of religions and respect for the Constitution and the principles of the Republic,” the joint statement added….
It said such a stance “goes beyond the permissible limits of an objective debate” and “could stir up prejudice and put at risk religious peace,” citing the UN Human Rights Committee’s own comments on depictions of Islam’s Prophet.
The groups also said the French government exploited the murder of a school teacher that followed the speech “for racist and Islamophobic purposes,” including the raiding of several Muslim homes and organizations.
born saturday says
as a mainstream islamic practise the organisations accuse the government of what themselves are guilty of……puting at steak religious peace… it is a common practice for all of islam to psychologically strike any opponent in this way as it is traditional nomadic practice that they religiously to this day use…..whole nations use nomadic practices even as national policies and international relations….. islam is faithfully following its traditions…. are we?????
gravenimage says
What they mean is that Muslims will react violently if not allowed to act violently…
Wellington says
Indeed, gravenimage.
James Lincoln says
WOW – I didn’t see that one coming!
JohnTheRevelator says
graven, succinctly put!
gravenimage says
Thank you, John.
Rob Porter says
Hence why it is insanity to allow such mentally challenged people to enter a non-Muslim country as immigrants. Doing so ends up subjecting a society to endless disagreeable confrontations and conflict.
Alfredo says
Muslims want to arrogate to themselves the right to blackmail the French with threats of violence.
That has been and will continue to be the Mohammedan fashion since the times of their beloved “prophet”
“I was made victorious with terror”
Attributed to Muhammad.
gravenimage says
France: Muslim groups claim Republican Charter is ‘prejudicial to the honor of Muslims, with an accusatory tone’
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It offends Muslims’ “honor” if they are discouraged from oppressing and murdering Infidels.
More:
It said such a stance “goes beyond the permissible limits of an objective debate” and “could stir up prejudice and put at risk religious peace,”
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In other words, it you try to prevent Muslims from murdering you, then more Muslims will murder you.
Wellington says
Proving again for the umpteenth time that Muslims 1) don’t assimilate into non-Muslim societies (unless they are bad Muslims and counting on such Muzzies is NOT a winning approach); 2) are supremacist across the board; 3) are perpetually whinny victims when they don’t get their way; 4) have only contempt for non-Sharia legal systems; 5) regularly overlook the repression of non-Muslims in Muslim-dominated nations—Buttlims even hate to have this brought up to them, such hypocrites are they; and 6) demonstrate once more how Islam is the “turd in the punch bowl” of world religions.
No non-Muslim should make excuses for Islam anymore than any non-Nazi or non-Marxist should make excuses for Nazism and Marxism respectively. Islam, nonetheless, still gets a pass. It’s idiotic and suicidal to do so but indicative of what a silly age we live in.
For centuries, the West knew that Islam was bad news for the West. But the rot about multiculturalism, coupled with moronic political correctness, has made the Western elites and many ordinary Westerners foolishly blind to what Islam ultimately intends for the West, which includes the eradication of liberty as well as the eradication of equality under the law.
I despise Islam and I despise continued willful ignorance of Islam, no better example of the latter being the dimwit who is now POTUS.
gravenimage says
+1
JohnTheRevelator says
well said
Rob Porter says
wellington, very well said. Liberal thought, embracing of political correctness and lack of spiritual beliefs has turned Western minds into mush and produced astounding cowardice. What the idiotic West now has is endless violence from Muslim imports, endless efforts from them to force accommodation of their mentally deranged ways and unjust sharia. What the hell is the point of allowing such people into a civilized Western country?
Mount Zion says
The French government exploited the murder of a school teacher . Really ? Can anyone tell me why only now they would start with the exploitation when we already had incidents like rapes of infidel women, Charlie Hebdo, vehicular jihad , FGM , forced marriage ,honor killings, random stabbings of innocent civilians , why didn’t they exploit these incidents , they haven’t even stopped muslim immigration as any sane society would have done .I tell you why because France has had far too much patience with muslims and you get to the point when enough is enough, and by the way this above mentioned tipical muslim misdeeds are the ones who are liklely to weaken the bond of trust between the muslims of France and the French people . And if they feel that some statements by the anti-extremism charta are in an accusatory and marginalizing tone and prejudical to the honor of muslims then I don’t give a rats ass because to me there is no honor in beheading a teacher and shortly afterwards a woman infront of a church on her way to the morning prayer.
I use the word muslims and not muslim extremist on purpose because to me wheather peaceful or not , they have the same fake prophet the same quran and the same allah.
gravenimage says
What they mean is that France and other Infidel nations have no right to even speak critically about Muslims murdering their people.
tim gallagher says
This report very clearly indicates the complete incompatibility of islam with western society’s values (in this case France, but it’s the same everywhere). There is no possibility of Islam ever getting along with any non-Muslim society’s way of life, and especially our western countries. What amused me, in a grim kind of way, are the bullshit about weakening the “bonds of trust between the Muslims of France and the nation”. Yeah, as if there is such a thing. The muslims must mean the “bonds of gullibility” where certain French people are foolish enough to trust the Muslim enemy, and also the bit about how things could be “prejudicial to the honour of Muslims”, bah blah. I can’t see anything honourable about Muslims or Islam at all, but I do notice how prickly and whiny Muslims (those neverending victims) are about their supposed honour and status. What pains in the arse Muslims continually are. They just don’t belong in any non-Muslim nation, that’s the crux of it. 100% incompatibility.
Fred van de Bunt says
The killing of Patty and many others did already put religious peace at risk.
Somehow these numbskull don’t get it already for 1400 years.
Anyway, enough “Leftists” around to comfort their hurt feelings and wipe their crocodile tears away.
somehistory says
Call out moslims with the Truth about themselves and they go ballistic.
Someone ate all of the chocolate.
It wasn’t me, whined the lips, dripping brown, running down the chin. But, if you accuse me, I will eat it all next time.
Seriously, they threaten terror. They commit the acts of terror that were threatened. When the acts are condemned, whining is loud and long, followed by more threats of terror if the terror is mentioned again.
But, it doesn’t matter, because when the discussion by non moslims dies down, the acts are threatened and carried out, again. Only to be followed by the whining when the terror is condemned, followed by more threats and more terror.
As Mr. Raymond Ibrahim wrote recently, the only thing that stops them is to be taken down by someone stronger and held down until they cry uncle with overwhelming respect for the stronger one.
James Lincoln says
To your point, somehistory:
“Appeasement only makes the aggressor more aggressive.”
— Dean Rusk
gravenimage says
Great quote.
somehistory says
In a nutshell.
Mr. Ibrahim’s article was worth every minute I spent reading it. But, I didn’t quote any of his words; just the thought. He said it much, much better. And gave historical facts to prove it.
Michael Copeland says
Macron wanted to create a French Islam, compatible with Republican values.
“There is no such thing as German, French or European Islam”
Ali Erbaş,
Head of Turkey’s state religious authority, the Diyanet,
Michael Copeland says
Remember what they said before Macron was elected, and before Samuel Paty was beheaded?
“Young French people must get used to living with the threat of attacks”, then-Prime Minister Manuel Valls said in 2015. Two years later, just before the first round of the presidential elections, Emmanuel Macron, still a candidate, used almost the same words. Terrorism, he said, is “imponderable” and will constitute a “threat that will be part of the daily life of the French for the years to come”.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/13500/france-in-free-fall
gravenimage says
Yes–just sickening surrender. “Leaders” accepting Muslims slaughtering their citizens as the ‘new normal” is grotesque.
gregbeetham says
Muslims and honour mentioned in the same sentence? that’s an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
Ps stay away from Islam. (and stay away from morally corrupt YouTube and Twitter)
Michael Copeland says
The honor of the muslim consists in humiliating the kafir.
Eleanor says
If anyone from Jihad Watch reads these comments, this one is a doozy!
Apparently, Abu Hamza, who is incarcerated in USA for terror-related activities, wants to go home to the UK, for surgery on the NHS, as he’s going blind due to Covid. Oh dear, Mr Hamza, too bloody bad. Stay where you are. UK does not want you back, you nasty piece of work.
gravenimage says
First I’d heard of that, Eleanor–thanks.
Here’s the story:
“BLIND BID Jailed hate preacher Abu Hamza claims he is losing his sight in latest bid to return to Britain”
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2202067/abu-hamza-sight-return-britain/
The Muslim whining never ends.
Lavéritétriomphera says
“Political Islam is a totalitarian system” politicians said. For the majority of them, if not all, political Islam is inconsistent with the principles of French secularism.
Aastra says
it is not right vs left. actually it is christian right vs (islamic right and left). do people even release they are not fighting one group here.
gravenimage says
Actually, the left’s propensity for enabling Islam is a frequent topic here.
Giacomo Latta says
”The groups also said the French government exploited the murder of a school teacher that followed the speech “for racist and Islamophobic purposes”
Still the same old desperate attempt to confound race and Islam. So what race or races do you defend, CFCM?
John Forbes says
The French will backdown & call it Diplomacy! All Western Nations are afraid of Islam!