75% say they support Samuel Paty, but they don’t want to end up like him; hence the self-censorship. Given this widespread fear and self-abnegation, what will France be like in five years? Ten? Twenty?
“Secularism: over 4 in 10 teachers say they have already self-censored, according to a survey,” translated from “Laïcité: plus de 4 enseignants sur 10 disent s’être déjà autocensurés, selon un sondage,” by Véronique Fèvre and Jeanne Bulant, BFMTV, January 6, 2021 (thanks to Mason):
A study published on Wednesday by Ifop reveals that the number of acts of protest against secularism is on the rise in schools in France.
The number of acts of protest against the teaching of secularism and the principle of secularism within schools continues to increase in France, reveals an Ifop study on “protests against secularism and forms of religious separatism at school,” produced for the Jean Jaurès and Charlie Hebdo Foundation and published this Wednesday.
This survey, which comes nearly three months after the assassination of Professor Samuel Paty, was carried out online from December 10 to 17, 2020 with a sample of 801 first and second degree teachers in mainland France.
In general, the study shows that more and more teachers (42%) are self-censoring within their schools and in their teaching, in order to avoid possible incidents that could be caused by certain pupils. The proportion is higher in secondary education (49%), where it has increased by 13 points compared to 2018 according to Ifop.
More recurring signs of separatism
In middle and high school, 53% of teachers surveyed said that some of their teaching is subject to challenges, and that some students try to avoid it, according to the study. A figure up 12 points compared to 2018.
In addition, the signs of religious separatism do not appear anecdotal for the respondents, since in total, 59% of French teachers say they have been confronted at least once in their establishment. 45% of primary, college or high school teachers say, for example, that they have observed the absence of young girls in swimming pool lessons in schools.
28% report refusals to enter religious buildings during school trips. 24% have already experienced challenges to Christmas meals, Christmas trees and galette des rois because of their Christian character. According to the study, 21% of teachers say they have faced refusals of children to join hands in the name of religious beliefs. 9%, again, report requests for the organization of canteens according to the religion of the students.
Disputes during the tribute to Samuel Paty
When asked about Samuel Paty’s decision to teach a course on freedom of expression based on press cartoons, three-quarters of the teachers questioned (75%) support him, 9% think he was wrong and 16% prefer not to comment.
The study also reveals that one in five teachers (19%) observed at least one protest or disapproval during the tributes to the history-geography teacher which took place last fall. A figure that rises to a third (34%) in priority neighborhoods. In early December, the Ministry of Education announced that nearly 800 incidents had been reported in France during tributes to Samuel Paty in schools.
CogitoErgoSum says
I wonder who it is that won’t join hands due to religious beliefs?
Mount Zion says
Teachers don’t self censor to avoid offending muslims but out of fear of beeing killed by muslims.
When France was facing harsch criticism and boycott by muslim countries after how Macron tried to handle the killing of Samuel Pahty , the foreign minister of France said in Egypt ” We have the highest respect for Islam….” I’m sorry but this is not the way to go , licking ass isn’t gonna solve the problem it’s only going to get worse , everytime something outrageous happens that has been orchestrated by muslim supremacist , if they don’t face consequences they will feel more and more enboldened . The way to go would be telling the plain truth , meaning that islam is a supremacist , barbaric , intolerant ,evil ideology that needs to be eradicated from the west and the whole world in general. I’m still waiting for the day till some western leader developes the guts to tell it how it is.
gravenimage says
+1
Clifford Fodor says
Why say anything. The Bible tells us not to offend anyone. We shouldn’t be drawing cartoons of Muhammad or deliberately making fun of them. We neither shouldn’t be praising Islam just to be at peace with them.
Mount Zion says
Yes under normal circumstances we shouldn’t be drawing cartoons , but thesse aren’t normal circumstances . When a particular groop tries to curtail your freedom and introduce blasphemy laws coming from a false religion and a false prophet then it is time to show that I stand for freedom of expression . Have you ever heard that offending judaism or christianity or buddhism or any other religion would be an issue ? You have to ask yourself why it’s only Islam ? Drawing cartoons is meant to show that we don’t want our freedoms taken from us trough violent intimidation . In a skandinavian town , don’t remember which one , the nazis wanted to attack the jewish population when a houswife came up with a brilliant idea , every single house in that town had the hanukkah light on their windows in solidarity with the jewish people . They didn’t care about offending nazis so we shouldn’t care about offending someone who offends us by violently intimidating us not to depict a false prophet .
Sarah Razee says
I absolutely agree with every word posted in comment above. Well written.. Thank you and it gives others more courage to speak out against such atrocities and abuses . UNACCEPTABLE PERIOD.. IT SHOULD NEVER OF EVEN BEEN AN ISSUE TO BEGIN WITH AND IT NO LONGER BE ONE…
IF PPL FROM OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE COME TO THE WEST TO ESCAPE YOU’RE HELL YOU WERE LIVING IN,
WHY ON EARTH WOULD ANY FOREIGNER BELIEVE THAT WE WANT OR NEED TO LIVE AS YOU PPL HAVE BEEN LIVING.
ISN’T THAT WHY THE MASSES LEFT THEIR HOME AND CAME TO THE WEST, TO ESCAPE ALL THAT TOXIC LIVING
I HAVE ONE MAJOR THING TO SAY..‼️‼️..
SELL OF YOU WHO R TRYING TO THROW IN TWO CENTS OR WHO R COMMITTING THESE VIOLANT ACTS, YOU ALL NEED TO STOP BRINGING ALL OF YOUR BAGGAGE, YOU’RE GARBAGE,, YOUR WAY OF LIVING, THINKING, AND BELIEVING OVER TO THESE WESTERN LOCATIONS WHERE WE DON’T HAVE TOO, NEED TO OR WANT TO THINK, LIVE, OR BELIEVE. AS YOU DO.. U DECIDED TO COME AND WERE VERY LUCKY TO OF ACHIEVED SUCH SUCCESS. WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RUIN OUR LIVES OVER HERE AS CLEARLY YOUR LIVES HAVE BEEN RUINED BY YOUR WAY OF LIFE.
LET US LIVE AS WE PLEASE
STOP ENCROACHING,
STOP TRYING TO FORCE ALL YOUR WAYS ON US
Y ASKED FOR HELP
THE WEST HAS GIVEN WAY TO MUCH HELP AND CLEARLY IT’S BITING THEM IN THE A$$
NOW. .!!!!!!!!!!!! IF Y DON’T LIKE HOW WE LIVE U CAN ALWAYS MOVE SINCE PLACE ELSE BUT YOU CAN NOT, WILL NOT EVER ENFORCE YOUR WAYS ON US …. PERIOD…
gravenimage says
Clifford, your claim that the Bible tells us to ignore evil is *much* mistaken. The Bible actually tells its readers to despise evil.
Walter Sieruk says
Boy , it sure doesn’t take much to offend Muslims ! Maybe playing the role of an offended and even outraged Muslim is one of their methods of achieving more appeasement fort heir Islamic agenda from weak Westerner who want to be politically correct.
This is part of what is known as the Stealth jihad otherwise called the Muslim method of Islamic Gradualism. In contrast to the way of the violent jihad or also called the militant jihad .This non-violent form of the jihad for Islam is a very sly, insidious, subtle and deceptive way of working for the advancement of Islam.
This Muslim scheme for achieving the goal of the Islamic agenda is as, many times, as subtly effective as it is demonically clever. Furthermore, this Islamic gradualism, in some ways, is very similar to the instruction printed in the book entitled THE ART OF WAR by Sun Tzu. Which reads “At first, then, exhibit the coyness of a maiden, until the enemy gives you an opening; afterwards emulate the rapidity of a running hare, and it will be too late for the enemy to opposes you”
GreekEmpress says
Taking offense constantly where none is intended wore out a long time ago imho.
DavidR says
Subjugation beats telling the truth when you KNOW the lives of yourself, your spouse, children, other relatives and friends may become targets of the World’s final religion. Civilized people (except for “Zionists”) are completely unprepared for the “in your face” barbarity of Muslims on Jihad. Likewise many immigrants are completely unprepared for living among people who don’t like their religion so they throw a tantrum and kill people. They are future oriented Muslims who envision a World where not 4O%, but 100% of teachers are either Muslim or on a hit list.
Michael Copeland says
Thuggery pays.
tim gallagher says
That was my reaction to this report, Michael. Muslims constantly threaten and quite often murder people who speak up and tell the unvarnished truth about islam. I don’t believe that the followers of Islam belong in any western country, where we have a strong tradition of freedom of speech. Just keep Muslims out is the only solution I can see. I feel they have nothing positive to add to our societies. It is such a futile exercise to let Muslims into our countries. To my mind, their values seem totally incompatible with our values. Thuggery and threats of violence or actual violence are the Muslim way.
Mason Stewart says
French government’s plan to send 2,500 migrants per month to some rural areas
https://www.fdesouche.com/2021/01/07/schiappa-et-darmanin-vont-multiplier-par-25-le-nombre-de-demandeurs-dasile-en-bretagne-bourgogne-et-par-plus-de-2-en-nouvelle-aquitaine-pour-delester-paris/
gravenimage says
More insanity. Thanks for that link, Mason.
Giacomo Latta says
Like where I wonder. To the areas where viniculture is the basis of the local economy? Sounds like it came from the desk of Macron.
gravenimage says
France: Over 40% of teachers say they self-censor to avoid offending their Muslim students
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And these are the ones who admit it. But with teachers critical of the horrors of Islam being beheaded, who can blame them? But this will only make things wrose.
Jayell says
Any normal person in polite Western society would show common respect and consideration towards others in their company, and watch how they behave and what they say. It’s called empathy, and is the basis of Christian-based Western civilisation. Muslims openly reject this Christian influence and are therefore cannot be seen as products of polite Western society, clearly demonstrating this fact on a daily basis with their institutional dishonesty, sociopathy and even criminal psychopathy. Therefore following the normal rules of ‘normal’ polite behaviour is out of place where they are concerned, but the problem then is that dealing with the predictably uncouth, illogical or even psychopathically criminal reactions we have come to expect from them as a result of responding to them in a manner appropriate to their own standards would inevitably result in a general descent to their own customary level of barbarity. Sadly, if this is the only answer to the corruption and destruction of Western societies, and if necessary remedial actions can be localised, so be it.
Mojdeh says
Well the truth is always hurt indeed. Mohamed Impostor was a terrorist and he deceived Quoraishi trips after always they were ready for Mohammad Impostor to fight with the, One day Mohamed said put your guns down we are your friends, Then as soon as they put guns down , Mohamed ordered to rape and kill most of them or force them become Muslim.So Cartoon is right of freedom of press and freedom of expression. Why no one attack Jesus Christ because Christians we have 90 percent of them good.
We have good and bad in every religions but Impostor is i always talk about. Real Mohamed was killed by the end of chapter 10 .Hell to Usman and Omar, Abu Bakr that put installed a new psycho leader like Hitler. Hitler read Quran and after chapter 10 he liked it so much that he became Mohamed as well killed 6 Millions of Jews World War2 and Millions killed. We must win this is formula that it works. Mohamed impostor deceived 1.3 Million Muslims with over 500 divisions now all of them want Sharia Law to be for UN?
gravenimage says
Mojdeh, Hitler did indeed admire Islam, but he never converted as you believe. Then, there is no indication that Mohammad was actually a good guy, as you continually claim, and that some “imposter” who looked and sounded exactly like him took his place. Citations, please.
born saturday says
the political leg of islam the left spoke of multiculturalism…. another lie created editly to deceive the people of the west long enough for the muslims to invade and increase their population in the western countries. all these lies of the left will deteriorate when the islamists will be a majority in the west…. then it will be too late to react to the violence the opression and slavery of islam…. in fact the west and particularly europe has entered a biculturalism era with the culture of the west and that of islam… two opposing cultures that are bound to collide and cause civil war… this is what will happen to any country that will oppose eventually the expansionism of islam…
Giacomo Latta says
”Secularism: over 4 in 10 teachers say they have already self-censored, according to a survey”
Does this mean that Islam is only 10 percentage points away from winning this war? No, it means we lost the war 39 percentage points ago.
OLD GUY says
Some people are darn near offended by everything, what do we do for them? Are we headed for a silent world as not to offend anyone?. Islam totally offends me, so can we just do away with their mosques, call to prayer, and their hate speech calling for violence? I suppose not, that would be islamaophobic. I think it is better to have the freedom to say what’s on our mind as long as we are not promoting violence against someone or group. Islam definitely has hate and violence in it’s teaching against non-islamic people. So calling them out on what they stand for is not islamophobic it is the truth! No one should be censored or be prevented from speaking the TRUTH.