This is apparently a summary of Darmanin’s upcoming publication. In any case, it would be interesting to see how Darmanin distinguishes Islamism from Islam, and explains how the latter has ever existed without its political and supremacist manifestations, but it is unlikely that he does so, or will be asked to do so.
Jihadis justify violence and make recruits among peaceful Muslims by claiming to be the exponents of authentic Islam. It will be interesting to see if Darmanin, or Muslims in France, or anyone else comes up with any comprehensive refutation of that claim, based on Islamic principles. There have been some who have claimed to have provided that refutation, but only did so by ignoring the existence of uncomfortable Qur’anic passages. But in today’s world it is “Islamophobic” to notice such unwelcome and uncomfortable facts.
“Islamist separatism,” translated from “Le séparatisme islamiste,” by Gérald Darmanin, L’Éditions de L’Observatoire, February 3, 2021 (thanks to Mason):
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“Islamism, the most powerful ideology at work in the contemporary world, has deprived Islam of its voice, manipulating religion in order to fully insinuate itself into French society, to fight it and ultimately to separate. This is how millions of Muslims find themselves held hostage by Islamist political activists. This is how our republican, secular and social model finds itself slyly undermined, leaving elites to belatedly update what the people have been feeling for some time.
“This manifesto is in line with the findings and solutions outlined by the President of the Republic. He hopes to enlighten the reader on the emergency situation our country is experiencing. He has no other ambition than that, like others before him, of helping to pinpoint our enemy: Islamism, the breeding ground for terrorism.
“Awareness is necessary today, even vital. It is a matter of public safety. May this argument come and explain to the reader the underlying reasons which led us to the text of the law confirming respect for the principles of the Republic.”
srikrishnachaitan says
I guess he knows truth about Islam but instead he is afraid of telling truth and forces himself to be political correct
gravenimage says
Sounds about right…
Michael Copeland says
Remember Macron’s advice?
“French presidential favorite Macron: Jihad terrorism will be “part of our daily lives for the years to come”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/04/french-presidential-favorite-macron-jihad-terrorism-will-be-part-of-our-daily-lives-for-the-years-to-come
Fred van de Bunt says
According to polls the (Islam sceptic) party from Le Pen at this moment has support of 48% of French voters.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/marine-le-pen-closes-gap-with-macron-in-polls-nqdnfp7kl
Since 6% of the French voters is Muslim, and will not vote for her, she only receives votes from the 94% non-Muslim population, meaning she receives a majority vote from among the French non-Muslims (To get 48 out of a hundred, you need 51 out of 94).
Since Le Pen is also an EU sceptic, she is seen as a great threat by the French establishment, and it is not surprising they start to sound anti Islam, even though shortly before they have been defending Islam and condemning Le Pen in the strongest words because of her Islam critical attitude.
Halkano Abdikadir says
Read the Quran and understand the true teachings. Who is creating this mess? We hear of terrorism, Jihadist bombings and all of sort of evil acts! Who creates, fund and arm them? The west found it hard penetrating into islamic world so easily in oder to dominate and exploit it economically and politically this is largely due to ideological difference since Islam is againt most of the vices and ways in which wealth can be easily attain. Corruption, colonialism, Racial issues etc are very minimal in Islamic world! This site is biased. Its seems the is alot of ignorace as far as islam and islamic teachings are concern. And tend ignore the reality on the ground unless they are the agents of the same propaganda campaign against ISLAM
gravenimage says
Halkano Abdikadir wrote:
Read the Quran and understand the true teachings. Who is creating this mess? We hear of terrorism, Jihadist bombings and all of sort of evil acts!
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Abdikadir’s problem, of course,m is that so many of us here *have* read the Qur’an–and the Hadiths, and the Sira–and know just whart savagery Islam teaches. The “Prophet” Muhammed himself was a Jihadist who robbed, raped, enslaves, and slaughtered his Infidel wictims.
As he well knows, waging violent Jihad is *not* considered an evil in the orthodox texts of Islam. They are, in fact, the foremost manner of spreading the vicious creed of Islam.
More:
Who creates, fund and arm them? The west found it hard penetrating into islamic world so easily in oder to dominate and exploit it economically and politically this is largely due to ideological difference since Islam is againt most of the vices and ways in which wealth can be easily attain. Corruption, colonialism, Racial issues etc are very minimal in Islamic world!
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Is Abdikadir saying that Muslims wage violent Jihad because the Infidels pay them to, or is he saying that Jihadists are actually Infidels? This is unclear, or perhaps just incoherent.
The fact is that it is the Ummah which funds Jihad terror, through Zakat and direct funding.
And where is the West exploiting Muslim countries? The truth is that without unearned oil wealth that all of Dar-al-Islam would be as backward as Yemen or Somalia. The fact is that even besides Jihad terror that the Muslim world is costing us a fortune in charity and foreign aid.
Then, the claim that the vicious Islamic world is more moral than is the civilized world is just grotesque. Muslims hate people being abe to date, sip alcohol, or charge reasonable interest, but polygamy, child “marriage”, forced marriage, piracy, slavery, rape, and mass murder are all perfectly Islamic.
Then, the idea that Islam has no racial issues could not be more grotesque. In fact, Black Africans are regularly enslaved today, just as they have been over Islam’s ugly history. 17% of the population in Mauritania is enslaves–seems this Muslim apologist is good with that.
More:
This site is biased. Its seems the is alot of ignorace as far as islam and islamic teachings are concern. And tend ignore the reality on the ground unless they are the agents of the same propaganda campaign against ISLAM
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So now opposing the horrors of Jihad and Shari’ah is “biased”? Just sickening.
And we know all too well the reality on the ground–including over 38,000 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11. *Ugh*. Like so many of his coreligionsts, this Mohamemdan is a very poor apologist for Islam.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Halkano Abdikadir,
“Corruption, colonialism, Racial issues etc are very minimal in Islamic world!”
(?)
I do not know which planet you’re on, come down back to earth for some moments.
James Lincoln says
Halkano Abdikadir,
Start your education by reading islam 101 on this website.
Read all of the Jihad Watch feature articles, along with the comments, for the past year.
Recommend not posting until you have at least finished that endeavor…
Lavéritétriomphera says
If you want the truth on Islam, don’t count on a pious Muslim to reveal it but you will be best advised to consider the opposite views of what he claims.
john smith says
Halkano Abdkadir.
No need to ask people on this site, to read the quran and understand the true teachings, we understand the true teachings alright. Maybe it’s you who needs to understand them.
Islam is,and always has been a vile evil satanic death cult, that was spawned in the hobs of hell.
Your evil god allah is actually satan, and muslims are his pawns.
Take a look at allah’s 99 names, and if some of them don’ give you a clue as to his true identity, then nothing will. One of his names is “The greatest of all deceivers”, and another is “the destroyer”. Anyone who has read the Bible is well aware of who these two names are referring to, it’s satan.
Yes Halkano, you and all muslims have been deceived by the greatest of all deceivers, satan.
Jaladhi says
Hmm,.. Islamism is the essence of Islam. Islam wouldn’t have gone anywhere if it were not for Islamism from day one! Don’t both preach the same thing! Islamism is known as jihad from Mo’s time – Mo called it jihad and made it mandatory for every Muslim.
Westman says
Gérald Darmanin could have lifted the notion that, “..millions of Muslims find themselves held hostage by Islamist political activists..”, right from CAIR’s playbook of trying to ignore jihadis and their Quranic directives while declaring the “harmless” nature of Islam.(pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!)
The scam of “genteel” Islam is sold everywhere in the West. What’s next? Robocalls?
Keith O says
Westman, I agree, It’s all waffle with smoke and mirrors to disguise the real intentions of mudslimes.
gravenimage says
Yes–why would Muslims be “held hostage” by this ideology if they actually rejected it and didn’t consider it orthodox Islam?
somehistory says
Words.
Old, older, oldest; Fine, finer, finest. Fit, fitter, fittest. Stupid, stupider, stupidest.
Terror, terrorism, terrorist.
islam, islamism, islamist. Not difficult. Unless one is trying to cover over the evil and violence taught in islam and practiced by moslims. Then it becomes as though the three words all have their own roots and history that makes them all different from each other.
You can take the ism and ist out of islam, but you can’t take the islam out of the other two. Nor can you take the islam out of the moslim. (he has to do that if he chooses, but not many do)
SJ says
How can I learn this NewSpeak language?
b.a. freeman says
this article is somewhat hopeful, in that some of the elites in government are actually agreeing that there is a problem. sadly, they have misidentified the problem, because there is no such thing as “peaceful” islam.
gravenimage says
Good analysis.
James Lincoln says
b.a. freeman,
It’s likely that at least some of the elites in government can identify, in private, what the real problem is – namely islam.
It’s the elephant in the room that they are afraid to publicly identify – having no easy solution…
Michael Copeland says
David Cameron can help out, with his best emphatic air of authority:
“They are killing and slaughtering thousands of people… They boast of their brutality. They claim to do this in the name of Islam. That is nonsense. Islam is a religion of peace. They are not Muslims. They are monsters.”
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-reaction-to-murder-of-aid-worker-david-haines
Wellington says
Would be damn difficult to issue a stupider statement than this. I suppose it could be done but right now I can’t think of an example.
JohnTheRevelator says
When you’re a prominent politician, by speaking truthfully about Islam, you are painting a target on your back and your family. So if this was just a clever strategy to placate the enemy while you fought against Islam, then I’d be all for it.
Unfortunately the stupid Leftist elites actually believe this nonsense of a mythical unicorn called ‘Islamism.’ This is just playing into the Muslims hands because so long as you don’t deal with the actual threat, then you’re chasing your tail and Islam will continue to grow stronger.
Fortunately for France, they have Marine Le Pen and that is their last only hope of defeating Islam without a massive and terrible civil war. The battle has already started on France’s streets, but you’ll never hear about it on the mainstream media because they’re traitors and cowards.
For now Marine has the lead and hopefully the French people have gotten sick of the politically correct, wishy-washy fools in power right now (Macron et al) who do nothing to protect their citizens, while pretending to be fighting the phantom called ‘Islamism.’ I really hope she wins in 2022, the fun begins.
It’s a numbers game, the more Muslims there are in your country, the more likely they can conquer you. Dialogue, hand-waving, speeches, pleas, etc. will not make them docile or integrated citizens who love Liberal ideals and reject Islam. You remove them from your country until they’re all gone. You cannot allow a gang of baboons to live in your home they will destroy it and you, the same goes for Muslims.
gravenimage says
French Interior Minister: ‘Islamism, the most powerful ideology in the world, has deprived Islam of its voice’
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What twaddle from Gérald Darmanin–Islam has been a terrorist creed since its inception–the “Prophet” Muhammed was himself a Jihad terrorist. And if “Islamism” is truly more powerful than “Islam”–whatever he may think this is, presumably some sort of fantasy peaceful Islam–then it is clearly not itself very powerful, or even significant.
John says
islamic FILTH wants laws on islamophobia, well i say make laws banning ISLAMOPHILIA.
Peter WF says
He impresses me with how slow he is to learn. Search “world map average IQ” and I suspect he is an out layer for France.
infidel says
Take the political aspect pf Islam out of Islam, — it just becomes a silly and banal ideo fit to be junked into the bin of history..
gravenimage says
+1
Rob says
You can’t have one without the other