Netanyahu has for quite some time offered extensive proof that the nuclear deal is based on lies. Nevertheless, Biden intends on renewing the disastrous deal, which Iran has used to boost its military power, including its work on creation of a nuclear bomb. By its own admission, Iran long ago violated the nuclear deal, so it makes no sense to reengage.
In agreeing to work with the Biden administration on a nuclear deal, Israel would in effect be working against its own interests and aiding in efforts toward its own destruction, which it is not prepared to do.
“Israel hints it may not engage Biden on Iran nuclear strategy,” by Dan Williams, Reuters, February 16, 2021:
JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israel held out the possibility on Tuesday that it would not engage with U.S. President Joe Biden on strategy regarding the Iranian nuclear programme, urging tougher sanctions and a “credible military threat” against its arch-enemy.
The remarks by Israel’s envoy to Washington came at a touchy juncture for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Up for re-election next month, he has revived his hard line on Iran while not yet having any direct communication with Biden.
The new administration has said it wants a U.S. return to a 2015 nuclear deal with Tehran – which former President Donald Trump quit, restoring sanctions – if the Iranians recommit to their own obligations. Washington has also said it wants to confer with allies in the Middle East about such moves.
“We will not be able to be part of such a process if the new administration returns to that deal,” Ambassador Gilad Erdan told Israel’s Army Radio.
Netanyahu aides have privately questioned whether engaging with U.S. counterparts might backfire, for Israel, by falsely signalling its consent for any new deal that it still opposes.
Israel was not a party to the 2015 deal. It has powerful advocates within the U.S. Congress, however, and Netanyahu’s threats to take unilateral military action on Iran if he deems diplomacy a dead end also figure into big-power planning.
“We think that if the United States returns to the same accord that it already withdrew from, all its leverage will be lost,” Erdan said….
owensgate says
I suspect Bibi knows how “You will not have one” applies to “Negotiation” in Nukes.
Infidel says
Israel absolutely should cut out the US from any negotiations, and instead start working w/ India, and thru them, the Arab Gulf countries like Saudi Arabia and the Emirates. Extend this alliance to being opposed to not just Iran, but also Turkey and Pakistan, so that the interests of those other countries will be factored in as well. Right now, if the shi’a crescent is largely gone, it’s being replaced by a Turkish sunni crescent spanning Turkey, Azerbaijan and Pakistan, and potentially capable of including countries like Malaysia and Qatar
James Lincoln says
Infidel,
Agree, Israel should cut out the US from any negotiations.
Israel should conduct business as if the United States is no longer an ally due to the Biden / Harris administration…
Keith O says
+1
Wellington says
+2
Frank Anderson says
James and Infidel, I became interested in the topic of negotiation in law school when I was asked to video record mock negotiation classes. I forget the number of books I read as a result, about 6. All of those books agreed on several details, one in particular, negotiation requires a subject which can be compromised, that is given away partially in order to motivate the other side to release some of its goals.
Where is the compromise between life and death, freedom and slavery, liberty or tyranny? Neville Chamberlain may be the most graphic illustration in history sufficiently distant in time to be view with some measure of emotionless thought. Today, negotiating with terrorists whether they be state actors or not, is still a total waste.
How many books need to be read to understand that lying to infidel kuffar (LOWLIFE) is done whenever advantage can be obtained? Another common agreed detail in all those books is that negotiation with liars is a waste.
I was ordered by a judge in a case against a lying fraud and his lawyer to discuss the matter before she would hear the trial. It lasted about 15 minutes, because the poor soul caught in the middle is a lifelong friend. But when the lawyer for ONE of the liars chimed in it ended. We went back, tried the case for about 2 hours. A week later another hour, A week later I won. showing the Chapter 11 which would leave the liars in charge should be converted to a Chapter 7 taking them out.
There is no worthwhile negotiations with people who want to kill and enslave you and the future.
Michael Copeland says
The texts they recite instruct them to ambush and kill us.
We are their enemy: this is their “Realm of War”.
Commanded to view us with hatred as lower than beasts,
They’re permitted to use deception, and lie to us all.
From “Here And Round Us”:
https://gatesofvienna.net/2021/02/here-and-round-us/#comments
owensgate says
The problem is, no one seems to be able to explain just how “You will not have one” is negotiable. In the negotiation sense, it can only be a “bribe”. “How much do you want from us to keep you from making a bomb”? Iran could bleed the World dry, getting anything they want, while they make a bomb behind the World’s back. “Negotiate” makes no sense at all. “We’ll let you have TWO bombs of 300 Kilotons each, no more”. No, we must take their Nuclear toys away from them, by any means necessary, and sooner rather than later.
Rob Porter says
Infidel – lets not forget that when the disgusting Barack Obama was president and Israel planned to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities, Obama threatened to have American forces in the Middle East shoot down Israeli aircraft and actually alerted American forces to such an action. Depending on who is in office in Washington, America has proven treacherous and utterly foolish. Israel must now treat the U.S. as if it is an enemy and be very careful about what intelligence it shares with Washington.
Mount Zion says
Despite all the evidence Israel offered to proof that the nuclear deal is based on lies and despite Iran’s own admission that long ago it violated the same nuclear deal , it is hard for me to understand why America under Biden is willing to restore the deal .
They must be aware of the danger Israel is facing if this deal is restored . Am I missing something ? I can’t believe the US want’s the destruction of Israel , but that is exactly how it looks like .
Infidel says
The ‘US’ may not want the destruction of Israel. But Biden’s inner circle, who are essentially the Obama retreads, along w/ the jihadist associates of the squad – Ilhan, Linda and Rashida – do! Whenever Israel says or thinks ‘US’, those are who they should keep in mind, not Trump, Kushner, Huckabee or anyone else who favors Israel, b’cos until 2024, that’s what ‘US’ means!
gravenimage says
+1
Frank Anderson says
M.Z. please consider a suggestion to sit down for a few minutes with your favorite refreshment and think about the 1930’s and Neville Chamberlain, with his “follower with reservations” Edouard Daladier. What made either of them think they could talk Hitler out of WWII? After all they had hundreds of speeches, Mein Kampf, and all the violence in Germany to tell them they were delusional.
Here we have 1400 years of violence, conquest, slavery and murder, with killings every day. The death toll is estimated between 250 and 1000 million people in 1400 years. We also know shia islam exists to create a global catastrophe in order to bring back the missing 12th imam.
Approximately 75 percent of the US Jewish population votes a straight democrat ticket. It is sad to watch people promoting their own deaths. To me, they are like the 50 percent of German Jews who refused to believe what Hitler proclaimed as his intent, and failed to make any effort to escape.
You might also consider reading the 20 percent of Rise and Fall of the Third Reich covering from the end of WWI to Hitler’s appointment as chancellor. I predict if you do, you will continue reading to see the total delusion in action that I describe.
“Those who cannot remember the lessons of the past are condemned to repeat them.” Jorge Santayana, The Life of Reason (1905).
James Lincoln says
Frank Anderson says,
“Those who cannot remember the lessons of the past are condemned to repeat them.” Jorge Santayana, The Life of Reason (1905).
Yes, Frank, a quote one should never forget.
Of course, the Leftists – who want to cancel history – would like you to…
gravenimage says
Good analysis, Frank and James.
revereridesagain says
I believe that’s called the “won’t get fooled again” option. But then when does Israel ever get fooled, no matter how clever the manipulative liar may be making the effort. Now O’Bummer is back in the guise of Hair-Sniffin Joe, and even if it means they are the last rational nation left on earth they are having none of it!
Roland says
The Israelis were fooled (and pressured) at Oslo. They are also prone to desert mirages of peace.
clive delmonte says
It is evident to everyone that, unless it can establish an alliance with largely Sunni states, Israel will stand, and have to act alone. The next few months may prove extremely dangerous for the civilized world.
gravenimage says
Is Israel does try to ally with Sunni states, she should watch her back.
Infidel says
Indeed they should. That said, it is safe for Israel to have an alliance of convenience w/ the Arab states, since the latter are threatened by not just Iran, but more dangerously, by Turkey. Iran’s shi’a crescent of Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon has been largely disrupted, but Turkey now has a new Turkic crescent that spans Turkey, Azerbaijan and Pakistan, and has a few stars like Qatar and Malaysia. Israel could put together an alliance that helps the Arabs confront all of them
Point being that the sunni states are by no means a monolith: there is the Arab vs non-Arab split, w/ the Saudis holding on to the leadership of the Arabs, and Turkey acknowledged as the de-facto leader of the non-Arab sunnis. That is far more pronounced a divide than shi’a-sunni, which just had Iran vs the rest
Walter Sieruk says
Joe Biden, as President pretender of the United States he will just mindlessly just continue in the same old terribly flawed fool and terrible policies of his former boss and chief, Obama, favoring that tyrannical cruel and hostile Islamic regime of Iran.
Biden is future disasters just waiting to occur. Old Joe is no good for the State of Israel .Likewise he is terrible for the United State of America. Also Biden is awful for the other Western countries.
James Lincoln says
A correct analysis, Walter.
There’s no question that Sleepy Joe will cause damage to both the United States and the rest of the West.
The only question is how much…
Jack Holan says
Israel, clandestinely removed an entire warehouse of digital archives on Iran’s nuclear program that proved beyond any doubt that there is no compliance on their part to the Obama Deal. Why would Joe extend his hand again and have it chopped off?
Wellington says
Indeed, ignoring Biden in virtually every regard is a sound, defensible and even life-preserving priority.
With Trump, it was America first. With Biden, it is American last—and with consequences worldwide for this stupid policy which Israel has already taken note of.
And again I want to thank all those who actually and legitimately voted for Biden (as opposed to all the dead, out-of-state, never-living, et al. who “voted” for Biden) for being so monumentally stupid and gullible in thinking that voting for this nothing was a good thing. You are all useful idiots, only the degree being a variable.
gravenimage says
Israel hints it will ignore Biden in dealing with Iran, citing concerns over nuclear deal
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Sadly, this seems necessary. Almost as month after the inauguration, and Biden has not even contected Netanyahu yet.
Donald Howard says
I think Israel should refrain from working with the Biden admin. regarding Iran. The main reason is, I do not trust the Biden admin. (nor would I any other democrat presidential admin.) to not share with Iran any information they might become privy to regarding Israel’s military contingency plans (offensive/defensive).It was pretty clear during the disastrous and incompetent Obama admin which Biden had served as vice president, was openly hostile to Israel and all to sympathetic to her enemies. There is no reason to believe that this admin will be any different especially when it is widely held belief that Obama will be a greater influence working behind the curtain.
OLD GUY says
Biden/Harris bought and paid for, Iran knows that they are in a strong position with Obama’s representative Biden in the White House.