Two years ago, Ahmad Al Issa shared a post entitled, “Why refugees and immigrants are good for America.” On Monday, the Syrian Muslim immigrant shot up a supermarket, killing ten Americans.
Biden declared that he was “still waiting for more information regarding the shooter, his motive, the weapons he used. The guns, the magazines, the weapons, the modifications that have apparently taken place to those weapons that are involved here.”
Why do the modifications to the Syrian immigrant’s weapons matter more than his motive?
Obama joined in, demanding that it is, “long past time for those with the power to fight this epidemic of gun violence to do so.”
Guns don’t kill people. Muslim terrorists do.
Ahmad Al Issa spent much of his time in America accusing his classmates and everyone around him of being “Islamophobes.” He repeatedly got into furious confrontations with the Americans whom he claimed were disrespecting his Islamic religion.
The media is spinning this as a mental illness, but if hating non-Muslims is a mental illness, then it’s a common one in his home country.
While Ahmad Al Issa came to America at a young age with his family, the Al Issa clan originated from Raqqa. The name of the Syrian city may not mean much to most Americans, but it was the former capital of the Caliphate of the Islamic State.
Or ISIS.
And that was after it had been previously taken over by the Al Nusra Front, linked to Al Qaeda, and by Ahrar al-Sham, which had coordinated with ISIS. Multiple Jihadist units and groups used the name “Raqqa” to symbolize their determination to stake a claim to the Syrian city and region.
Raqqa has a sizable Sunni Islamist base even beyond ISIS.
While Al Issa grew up in America, his family would have likely maintained an extensive network of family connections with Raqqa. Family members insist that Ahmad Al Issa was not a radical, but he was clearly a committed Muslim and his Facebook page, since taken down, is filled with Islamic content, and with attacks on President Trump and on America over “Islamophobia.”
Colorado took in a sizable number of migrants with multiple charities, religious and secular, springing up to help the alleged refugees. And once again Americans are reeling from a terror attack because Democrats and some Republicans refuse to secure our immigration system.
There were plenty of warnings that Ahmad Al Issa’s hatred for America and obsession with Islamophobia could turn violent. In 2017, he assaulted a fellow student claiming that he had made fun of his identity. The Syrian immigrant got off with a misdemeanor, probation, and community service. Just imagine if the system had done its job and locked him up instead.
The angry outbursts and claims of Islamophobia are now being spun as mental illness.
But the most obvious explanation for why a Syrian Muslim immigrant whose family comes from the capital of ISIS would shoot up an American supermarket isn’t mental illness.
Nor is the solution gun control.
Democrats and the media had attacked President Trump for suspending the migration of Syrians into America. When Biden overturned the suspension, the media cheered.
“Beyond contravening our values, these Executive Orders and Proclamations have undermined our national security,” Biden had falsely declared.
The bodies of ten dead Americans show what national security with terror migration looks like.
In 2016, Judge Posner had prevented Governor Pence from blocking Syrian refugees. Posner bizarrely claimed that Pence’s attempt to protect Americans from Islamic terrorists was the equivalent of forbidding “black people to settle in Indiana.”
The Trump administration’s moves would not have stopped the Al-Issa clan from coming here in 2002, but it would have prevented future terrorists from taking more American lives.
Biden and the Democrats responded to the King Sooper shootings by preaching “common sense gun control.” But their gun control has yet to work in Chicago or New York. Meanwhile what Americans need isn’t fewer guns, but fewer immigrant and refugee terrorists.
The tragedy of the Al Issa family arriving here in 2002, after September 11, is a case study in the obstinate refusal of our political elites to reckon with even the worst terror attacks.
President George W. Bush had postponed the Presidential Determination for the number of refugees imported into America because of the September 11 attacks. But he nevertheless went ahead and issued it in November 2001 which allocated 70,000 refugee slots.
And, insanely, boosted the Near East/South Asia category from 10,000 to 15,000 which had been set at 4,000 under Clinton. In 2001, some 3,000 had already been referred to through Syria, Jordan and Turkey. These numbers may sound technical, but they show the terrible policy decisions that led directly to the brutal murder of ten Americans in an ordinary supermarket.
The American victims of Ahmad Al Issa’s rampage included grandparents and employees, an actress, and a police officer who charged the Muslim shooter and paid for it with his life.
Colorado Democrats clamor that this shooting didn’t have to happen. They’re right, but not because of gun control. It didn’t have to happen if we just reformed our immigration system.
Ahmad Al-Issa grew up in America and hated every minute of it. He hated his host country, his classmates and his peers. Over the years, his hatred grew until it consumed him. Then it consumed in his victims in a murderous rampage aimed at non-Muslim Coloradans.
In 2019, Al Issa had fashionably tweeted “#istandwithrefugees.” It’s the sort of thing that many in Boulder, in Colorado, and across America have irresponsibly tweeted.
And it’s a hashtag that kills.
Bush’s decision to let in the Al Issa family after September 11 killed ten Americans. It was a tragic decision that he might not have seen buried in the numbers. But it happened anyway.
There’s really no excuse for it today after two decades of continuous Islamic terrorism.
Every day that we keep our border open, that we welcome in more migrants from terror states, we are pointing a loaded gun at our own heads and pulling the trigger. Most of the time the chamber is empty, but every now and then, the immigration gun fires and people die.
Biden and the Democrats would like to talk about Al Issa’s weapon modifications after opening the border to gang members and terrorists. They want to push restrictions on Americans owning guns, instead of restrictions on their own resettlement agencies bringing in terrorists.
The problem is not that a Syrian immigrant from the capital of ISIS had a gun. The problem was that a Syrian immigrant from the capital of ISIS was in Colorado and in America.
The authorities and the media will go on lying to Americans. They will blame mental illness, as they do with every Muslim terrorist, and depict Al Issa as the victim of Islamophobic bigots. The Democrats will turn the killer into the victim and his victims into the perpetrators as they have done so many times. They will tell us that Islam is a religion of peace, and that Al Issa’s religion and his family origins in the capital of the ISIS Caliphate should be ignored.
And even in the midst of so many burning issues, we must not give up the fight on this one.
There are hard, cold truths about Islamic terrorism that decades after September 11 we seem to be no closer to understanding than Bush was in November 2001.
We can stand with the terror refugees killing us. Or we can stand with their American victims.
CogitoErgoSum says
So he had the idea that killing a bunch of people at the supermarket is a great way of getting people not to be afraid of you and your religion?
gravenimage says
I think he *wants* people to be afraid of Islam–and to submit to it.
6woods says
Bingo.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yes, this is why the charge of “Islamophobia” is so ridiculous. Fear seems to be what Islam is all about. The first emotion that Muhammad experienced upon his alleged encounter with the angel Gabriel was fear … so much so that he wanted to kill himself. The driving force in Muhammad’s life was fear and he used it to get others to accept him and his message.
This makes me wonder. Perhaps the opposite emotion of love is neither hate nor indifference but fear. I think I could overcome hate or indifference towards someone enough to come to love them eventually but I don’t think I could ever come to love someone that I constantly fear. Likewise, living with a religion that could cause its most fervent believers to turn on certain groups of people and kill them at any time is quite scary but that is something encouraged by the Koran. It tell Muslims to kill the unbelievers wherever they may be found – and anyone who is not a Muslim is to be considered an unbeliever. I don’t think it illogical at all to be fearful and cautious when around a person who follows a religion such as that.
gravenimage says
Fine post, CogitoErgoSum.
Wyand says
Boom! Right one point!
Fear truly is also a spiritual battle that Satan and his forces use exclusively against humankind.
mortimer says
Al-Issa is merely ‘casting terror’ into the hearts of the DIRTY KUFAAR ‘for the sake of Allaah’.
‘Turhibunna’ (terrorize them) Koran 8.60.
Hugh paxton says
If I go shopping I really don’t want to meet some mentally distorted Islamic freak wanting to kill me. I have enough problems! My point though, is this, why even begin to defend him? Somehow Alice it and looking glass it and let the thing become a he’s a victim thing? Everybody he killed, all who loved them, everybody who was shopping, everybody who ever met this thing is a victim. He isn’t. And any preacher who steered him on his path? Isn’t.
LB says
“If I go shopping I really don’t want to meet some mentally distorted Islamic freak wanting to kill me.”
Unfortunately for you, If you live in the West, that is your every day reality. In fact, it was that way since a few decades ago. Muslims have infested every corner of the West by now and no one has any idea when one of them might blow up (literally in some cases). That is, if they don’t brag about doing it on social media prior to the attack, and thankfully most of them do and are caught before they do it.
As London’s muslim mayor so eloquently put it: “This is part and parcel of living in a big [Western] city.” Sad but true. You can either choose to ignore it and go about your daily business as normal or never leave your house again. There is also a third option but it is applicable only to Americans, which is to move to a state that has not yet banned concealed carry, join NRA, get a gun, and train yourself to be wary of your surroundings at all times when going outside. Those are your only choices.
Public Citizen says
This isn’t just the case for those who live in “the West”. This same attitude is endemic throughout Islam with faction against faction.
Perhaps you’ve heard the following: “Me against my brother, my brother and I against my cousin, My brothers and cousins against my tribe, my brothers cousins and tribe against,,,,,,,,,,
It isn’t generally published in the western press but this sort of violence is common enough to be nearly routine throughout the Moslem World.
GraceGrace says
Just because he didn’t declare “Allah Akbar” or whatever while he was killing these innocent citizens doesn’t mean he wasn’t committing Jihad against these innocent people and I’m fed up with liberals making excuses for these murderers when they know they have an agenda. A thousand years of obsession never wears out. .
mtman2 says
Right and that store CEO mandated “no concealed guns allowed”.
AS WELL AS it was a ” KOSHER ” specialty store.
One armed shopper could’ve ended it..!
Savvy Kafir says
Yep! Those silly “No Guns Allowed” policies only disarm the potential victims of murder-minded jihadis and other lunatics.
Gerald says
The “Islam is a religion of peace” Bush? Is that the Bush who let him in?
mortimer says
I wonder if Bush Junior has learned anything about Islam after making his colossal blunder in calling it a ‘religion of peace’. Islam is the religion of jihad. Jihad is the sixth and MOST IMPORTANT pillar of Islam. All Muslims are required to participate in jihad.
Brad says
Market is said to be frequented by Jewish shoppers. Just saying. Nothing to see there.
Donovan Nuera says
Someone should request that Bush paint a portrait of mohammad…. and watch what happens …
Michael Copeland says
Bush was reading a script after having had a meeting with “these folks”, the Muslim Brotherhood. The text contains very un-American but typically muslim concerns such as the possibility of a backlash. It is fairly obvious who composed it. Bush, after all, was not noted for Islamic knowledge, or any general knowledge.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/03/the-islam-is-peace-deception-six-statements/
Michael Copeland says
The “Islam is Peace” Deception: Six Statements
Here are six statements which can easily be verified.
Islam authorises the deception of non-Muslims in the cause of Islam.
“Using deception to mask intended goals” is Muslim Brotherhood (MB) strategy.
The MB’s main front group is the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).
CAIR supplied George W. Bush with the “Islam is peace” message.
It was deception: Islam means “Submission”.
The deception of Bush has been a very successful propaganda coup.
Will any media relate these statements?
gravenimage says
True, Michael.
Wellington says
I voted for Bush 43 twice. Considering the alternatives (Gore and Kerry) how could I not? But Bush 43, and by extension the entire Bush family, including of course Bush 41, were never part of a responsible and informed solution to the longest lived totalitarian ideology of all time, i.e., Islam. No member of the Bush family, to date that I know of, has bothered to really learn what Islam intends for all of mankind.
So, I am so done with the Bushes. They have been part of the problem and not part of any responsible, Churchillian-like solution. And their collective denigration of President Trump one way or another (e.g., Jeb Bush stating in 2016 that he would not vote for Trump and Bush 43 stating that America can’t argue for a free press across the world when Trump’s criticism’s of the highly biased MSM means that he is against a free press, which Trump never was) has also resulted in all loss of respect for the Bush family en masse by yours truly.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
You correctly pointed out that Pres. Trump was never against a free press.
He was rightly against fake news – and wanted a fair and accurate press. A press that held itself, as well as others, accountable.
But you knew that already…
Wellington says
I wish, James, the Bush family would have backed Trump from the time he won the Republican nomination in 2016. Instead, they went into a collective hissy-fit mode of one kind or another, even stating untrue things like Bush 43 asserting that Trump was against a free press (never mind that Obama had AP reporters monitored, even though AP is very left-leaning, while Trump had NO reporters monitored, even the egregiously partisan Jim Acosta).
Lara Bush also criticized Trump while he was President for his southern border policy, implying that he didn’t care about “the children.” Ah, as a variation on Samuel Johnson here, the last refuge of a scoundrel is to invoke “the children.” I expect this from Nancy Pelosi but I didn’t expect this from Lara Bush. And where is Lara Bush now and the entire Bush family about the current debacle on the border? Perhaps they are in communication with Kasich and Whitman trying to figure out how to remain silent about Biden’s border catastrophe while still now and again, when the opportunity presents itself, denigrating Trump.
Used to admire the Bush family. No longer. So done with all of the Bushes.
Donovan Nuera says
Maybe they can host 1000 illegals on their sprawling Crawford Ranch!!! And their daughter Elizabeth can have her husband, son of Ralph Lauren, clothe all of them!!
gravenimage says
Good analysis, Wellington.
mortimer says
Agree with Wellington. The betrayal of the Bush’s is a complex puzzle for historians to unravel. They turned their backs on the people and supported the elites.
Infidel says
Wellington
Ironically, during one of his post election rallies before January 6th, one thing that President Trump pointed out: we can’t criticize other countries for not conducting free and fair elections if it looks like we failed in that task ourselves. That’s something parallel to what Bush said about us not being morally equipped to argue for free presses outside this country
I actually was disillusioned w/ Bush during his presidency itself, and heavily agreed w/ Hugh on what our moves should be. Rand Paul, Trump and Ben Carson were the only candidates who advocated that we shouldn’t have gone in, or that we should withdraw, and Ted Cruz suggested keeping the scope limited to security, but dropping nation-building from the agenda (something one could definitely have lived w/)
Daniel Triplett says
George W Bush commanded the entire US Intel apparatus. He could’ve and should’ve ordered and assembled an objective non-Muslim task force team to spend a couple of weeks investigating Islam’s motive, mission, and methods, instead of just asking the Muslim Brotherhood, “Hey wa’ssup with Islam?” and allowing them to form US foreign policy and write his speeches.
His “Religion of Peace” speech was perhaps the single most ignorant, consequential, and destructive speech ever spoken by a US President. It set the tone and perspective and formed the Kafir ideology not only for Americans, but for the entire Western world, where every other Western citizen and Head of State trusted the judgment of the POTUS and followed the American lead. With 20 years of momentum and inertia now, this suicidal false perspective has been nearly impossible to correct, allowing the Ummah to easily steamroll Dar al-Harb un-opposed ever since. Aside from the clear-eyed Visegrad 4 leaders and peoples, the rest of Dar al-Harb peoples are as willfully ignorant about Islam today as they were on 9/11.
Furthermore, our troops fighting Muslims in armed conflict were misled and deceived as well. In the years immediately following 9/11, I spent 6 years full time flying combat missions in the USAF. I received over 1000 classified Intel briefings, and not once did anyone ever explain the actual Islamic doctrine to us, and the true motive, mission, and methods of the Ummah and Islamic Manifest Destiny. This entire time, the message the Pentagon has briefed to our troops has been Tiny Minority of Extremists (TMOE) hijacking The Religion of Peace (TROP) rhetoric. We believed them. We counted on and trusted the military to be honest and arm us with the truth, and tactically they did, as far as identifying specific tactical threats to conduct a given mission safely. But strategically they did not, as far as understanding the big picture 30,000 foot view of what the war was really all about from the perspective of our enemy, and the evil doctrine to which every Muslim on Earth pledges their souls. It’s dishonorable, reprehensible, dangerous, and unacceptable that we would send our troops to fight and die for our country and allies without arming them with the whole truth about our enemy, or worse yet, to willfully deceive them about the enemy and ideology they are facing.
Even when exposed with the truth about Islam, Bush 43 rejected it, cognitive dissonance apparently preventing him from accepting reality (a characteristic plaguing all Democrats).
Cancel culture of Islam truth tellers began in January 2008, on Bush’s watch. Scholars and truth tellers such as Stephen Coughlin, John Guandolo, William Gawthrop, and Robert Spencer all had Islam well figured out in the early 2000s. But in 2008, Stephen Coughlin and John Guandolo were humiliated, condemned, crucified, and canceled from their Federal jobs briefing other Federal agencies about the true existential Islamic threat, speaking truth about its motive, mission, and methods. Soon after, truth tellers like Robert Spencer were canceled from the Federal speaking circuit as well. TMOE hijacking TROP became the official and only narrative policy allowed throughout the Federal government. Willful denial and obstinate ignorance have been US policy ever since, even under Trump unfortunately.
And yeah, on top of all that, Jeb and Bush 43 explicitly stated they would not vote for Trump, leaving the top of the ticket blank, and Bush 41 officially supported and declared he was voting for Hillary. I’ve lost all respect for the Bush family as well.
Trump redefined what Conservatives want in a leader. Never again will I and every other Republican I know support in the primaries men like Bush, McCain, or Romney. Those days are gone and are never coming back. Any leader we choose from now on will have to share the same American values, vision, America First policies, and patriotism that Trump had. But if Texas flips Blue, and especially if election fraud isn’t corrected and integrity secured, we’ll never have a GOP POTUS again.
ReggieRR says
Excellent analysis. Thank you, Daniel. And thank you for your military service on behalf of our great albeit imperiled country.God bless.
Daniel Triplett says
Thank you Reggie. Serving America has been my greatest privilege.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Daniel.
Duane Mo tez says
Im sure ol bushie key let them in on purpose…. You Fools
gravenimage says
No, he didn’t. As I noted, he was solidly anti-Jihad–and pious Muslims *hated* him. But he sadly swallowed the koolaid that Muslims are just ‘regular moms and dads’.
terry says
That is overly kind of you, and i understand that: BUT this family has always been for the global elites, including the one who was a vice-president foisted upon Reagan. As for me, I have always detested the rino boot-lickers, who would say and do anything to get elected, and then steal, lies, and cheat their way into more global empowerment. God bless you sir, and thank you for your posts.
Walter Sieruk says
After September 11, 2001 the foolish President Bush allowed that Muslim, family , Al Isaa family to enter the America to live in the USA .The murderous outcome of the fool decision is now clear
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Well from the viewpoint of President Bush who was obviously given much disinformation and outright lies about Islam by the Muslim propagandists for Islam who kept telling him right after September 11, 2001 that “Those 9/11 terrorists of al Qaeda wern’t realm Muslims they were just criminal who hijacked the peaceful for religion of Islam for politics .”
Those lying falsehoods and bogus claims of true being “non-violent” convinced Bush that “true Islam is peaceful. ”
Therefore Bush let that Muslim family into America thinking that “Islam is a non-violent peaceful religion” Now ten dead american are result of that “Bush folly.”
Some American might wonder who easily Bush could be so gullible as not to investigate the truth or falseness of the claims made by the propagandists for Islam . The answer might be that he ,as President felt that he had enough information about Islam and didn’t have time o further check those claims out the claim did , no doubt “appear genuine”
After all, the former President was educated about the dangers of Communism before 9/11 not about the dangers of Islam with its violent and murderous jihad.
This folly of Bush is what some would term the “Law of unintended consequences” which was indeed very tragic,.
What is also very tragic is that even now most American politicians still ,after all this time, are unaware about the terrible reality about Islam and its deadly jihad.
James Lincoln says
Walter Sieruk,
Muslim Brotherhood operatives were so embedded in the GW Bush administration that President Bush was unable to discern fact from fiction.
Tragically, he did not go the extra mile and independently fact-check…
Jezzup says
It seems to me that what the USA needs is both…gun control and proper immigration.
gravenimage says
What we need is to stem the invasion of murderous Muslims.
Walter Sieruk says
Yes we do ,indeed !
Dick says
Yip
Same as what should be done in New Zealand
Check Burry says
Lets try EVERYWHERE.
gravenimage says
After 9/11, Bush Let the Al Issa Family Into America. Now 10 Americans are Dead.
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Yes–President Bush was solidly anti-Jihad –unlike the current occupant of the White House–but he sadly believed the lie about Islam being “a religion of peace”.
Good piece from Daniel Greenfield.
More:
Two years ago, Ahmad Al Issa shared a post entitled, “Why refugees and immigrants are good for America.” On Monday, the Syrian Muslim immigrant shot up a supermarket, killing ten Americans.
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Yes–Muslim immigrants like Al Issa are only good for turning America into an Islamic crap hole. No thanks.
Infidel says
Graven
If anyone believes the lie about islam being a religion of peace, how can they be anti-jihad? When the war in Iraq has ended in an increase in the influence of 2 neighboring jihadist countries – Turkey and Iran, and in the war in Afghanistan, he was always loathe to confront Pakistan
In fact, in Pakistan, I’ll submit that Obama of all people had a better record than him by hunting down Osama while keeping Musharraf in the dark: something that Bush would never have done. After that event, I doubt any Americans were left who regard Pakistan as an ally – including Dems. And I say that despite having nothing but disdain for Obama
No, we need to be intellectually honest and call out people who created the islamophobiaphobia environment that we’re in. And that was President Bush w/ his strong assertions that islam is a religion of peace. Which is why when Trump called for a ban on muslims after San Bernardino, Dems like Nancy Pelosi were praising Bush!
gravenimage says
Oh, I think that Bush was genuinely anti-Jihad terror–he just didn’t understand that this is a core part of Islam. Pretty big problem, though.
Michael Copeland says
The duping of Cameron,
The duping of Clegg,
The duping of Brown and Blair,
They all trace back
In a dead straight track
To the duping of Bush by CAIR
James Lincoln says
Infidel,
I agree, have to give the Obama administration credit for hunting down and killing Osama bin Laden. Even Obama knew enough not to trust Pakistan.
And the GW Bush administration missed the opportunity to capture/kill Osama bin Laden in Tora Bora December 2001.
Infidel says
James
Missing the opportunity was one thing – that can happen due to operational oversights or things of that nature. But trusting Pakistan was monumentally stupid – and Obama wittingly or unwittingly highlighted that in that he illustrated that the moment we stopped trusting Pakistan, we could do wonders
Today, of course, it would be harder to make that mistake (unless one is Joe Biden), given that Pakistan is strongly tied to both Turkey and China
James Lincoln says
Infidel,
Thanks for the reply.
Agree with your logic…
gregbeetham says
President Clinton had four opportunities to get rid of Osama bin Laden in the 90’s and didn’t take them, once again the frontline troops or agents were handicapped by dumb or cowardly politicians who issued incomprehensible executive orders. The result of not taking out an identified terrorist who had already killed many Americans in previous attacks meant that the destruction of the WTC became a reality.
Infidel says
gregbeetham
Agreed. That of course is tangential to the question of whether President Bush dropped the ball by trusting Pakistan on this issue
gravenimage says
James–with the greatest respect–I think from what I have heard that Obama was presented with the raid on bin Laden as a fait accompli–one too impolitic to scotch. I very much doubt that taking out bin Laden was his idea.
somehistory says
Being president is a job not for the stupid or the ignorant, the proud, the demented, the evil or the mentally senile.
mo slums knew why they were in the country As Americans know who Michael Jordan is, mo slums knew osama bin laden.
Immediately after the planes were flown into the buildings by his cohorts, mo slums all over the U.S. began to complain. They claimed that they were being targeted, attacked, maligned, persecuted and victims of discrimination.
ABC News had a “special” where they had mo slums sitting alongside American citizens who had lost family members in the World Trade buildings, the Pentagon and the Flight 92 in PA.
A big deal was made of the mo slums in the group. They were treated as “special” people, “special victims” and Sawyer made a point of speaking to the women wearing scarves and holding babies. It was a regular pity party for these enemies within.
One can imagine that the president was under a lot of pressure to get with the program. I lived in Texas when he was governor there and he did a good job. Criminals hated and feared him to some extent.
Had he been given the full information…what he obviously lacked…and full support, perhaps he would have done differently.
However, that mistake was made and it cost a whole lot. The creep who came after did what he did on purpose and so many more of the “al issa’s” are in this country now….many in government…causing all manner of problems. “Snakes in Suits,” (Think c.a.i.r., {who ‘o’ helped by stopping their trial} tlaib, omar, ellison, etc.) as well as those with huge beards and stomachs getting loaded weapons….trucks, knives, guns, whatever they can…are a menace to people who just want to live in the Freedoms given by our Creator.
gravenimage says
Good analysis, Somehistory.
somehistory says
Thank you, g.
Donovan Nuera says
A better and informed president would have struck Saudi Arabia on September 13. 1st Marine Division would have secured Mecca within a week and dismantled the Black Kube (after using it as a camp latrine or pork BBQ smokehouse). Imagine the relief of billions of human beings of not having to live under or be threatened EVER AGAIN by this violent cult. Even liberals would have to to had realized it would have been a good thing as 600,000,000 women around the world would have been liberated.
gravenimage says
Donovan, the Kaaba has been damaged and even destroyed several times. The idea that this would end Islam is unfortunately mistaken.
mortimer says
Mohammedans will not stop conducting jihad until they lose faith in the Koran, hadiths, Sira, canonical commentaries and Sharia law experts who promote them. That is actually occurring, but not quickly enough to slow the rate of jihad.
The internet companies could help greatly by endorsing those who are deprogramming Muslims out of this death cult, but instead they are using doctrinaire jihadists within their companies who are censoring counterjihad content.
James Lincoln says
Mortimer,
Definitely wouldn’t count on big tech to help with the anti-Jihad effort…
gravenimage says
Mortimer, you keep claiming that Infidels are “deprogrtamming” Muslims–but the fact is that no Muslims have been “deprogrammed” against their will.
That being said, it *would* be great if those telling the truth about Islam received support from tech firms–instead of just the oppoasite.
Rob says
Let’s have a list of Muslims who have benefitted from migrating to the US and then turned against her.
This guy
The two Boston creeps
etc
gravenimage says
It’s a damned long list.
tgusa says
I know for fact that there were muhammaden jihadist attacks on Americans at least as early as the 1970s. In our early days of, mingling with muslims, muhammaden attacks on Americans were mostly overseas kidnappings for ransom in muslim countries. Muhammaden jihadists have become richer and have expanded since those kidnap for ransom days. Lots of people think that 9-11 was the first muhammaden attack within the USA but that is far from true. February 26, 1993 World Trade Center attack should have had our intel agencies upping the ante. But here we are 30 years later in the USA and 50 years later globally. It is as if some evil force has descended upon us over the last 50 years both from the inside and outside.
gravenimage says
Yes. The Zebra Killings were Jihad–the attack in DC over the movie “The Messenager” was Jihad–both from the 1970s. I’m sure there were others.
tgusa says
Muhammaden jihadists no longer need do the kidnap for ransom thing because they are funded and supported. So the question is, who is funding and supporting them?
The answer is and to our detriment is we all are.
Donovan Nuera says
Assassination of Robert Kennedy by a “Palestinian”.
The attempted car bombing of the wife of the captain of the USS Vincennes in La Jolla, CA while she was on the way to teach school at Tucker Carlson’s old school (La Jolla Country Day School). They never found the culprit who most likely was an Iranian agent. Fortunately the bomb did not detonate correctly. There is no plaque by the road. I drive past that site every day. The old 24-Photo film development shop in town used to hang on the wall behind the counter a blown up photo of the burned out Vanagan with the detectives doing their forensic work on it. It was a big story for a while but everyone forgot about it.
Anon says
That’s why I keep saying America still needs Mr Trump.
Deus Vult 1.5 reloaded says
People like him, especially with a long history of violent outbursts/psychological issues need to be put on a watch, need to be treated for psychiatric illnesses…just because some families might not want to get involved in getting mental health of a family member evaluated/get the necessary help, cannot be an accepted “apology” for terrible happenings like this. If indeed he has always identified himself as a “radical” muslim he should have been a person to watch for a long time. His FB page full of islamic mottos, suggesting he hates the US? Thrn what on earth was he still doing living in the US he could have moved to family in Syris right! Instead now, the nation get’s to mourn another 10 victims of senseless violence. They need to prosecute him to the fullest, then strip off any immigration/naturalisation status make him live out his days in Guantanamo bay…I have no understanding or mercy for people like this who kill for their ideology!
Michael Copeland says
A small but important point: the violence was not “senseless”. It was jihad in the path of Allah; it killed ten enemies of Allah; it gained Paradise points for the devout muslim who performed it, who can admit many members of his family into Jannah (Paradise) on the strength of it. He was “doing exactly what this book says”.
gravenimage says
+1
Patrick White says
Bush was 50 per cent of the problem. I always wondered which Mohameddan’s payroll he was on.
GreekEmpress says
Saudis?
djinn says
Same folks that paid obama to work for them.
gravenimage says
I think that blaming George Bush for 50% of Jihad terror is pretty off.
That being said, he was in an influential position right after 9/11 and if he had taken the time and effort to really learn about the threat of Islam, it would have been much better.
ed says
Guns don’t kill people moslems do
And have been for 1400 years
OLD GUY says
Muslims have been killing non-muslims for 1400 years, so why are our non-muslim political leaders still so hell bent on allowing these murders into our societies? After 1400 years you would think we would know better.
don vito says
Just ask joebama, the answer my friend is blowing in the wind, …….answer is blowing in the wind.
Ark Shein says
Good reason to send them all back,or they will kill us for generations.
Djinn says
Obama brought one million Muslims into our country. Are we to believe a group of one million people don’t contain a number of bad guys? Stating Bush let a family in is utterly contemptuous, ignorant, and arrogant.
gravenimage says
Bush *did* let this family in. That being said, Obama–an actual advocate of Islam–let in many more and overall did a lot more damage.
hammar says
mohammad was no prophet to begin with…mohammad was jealous of the Hebrews and Moses…Mohammad was illiterate couldn’t read or write but loved stories about Moses leading the
Jews on Egyptian Exodus. islam is not a faith based faith it is a warrior faith to conquer and nothing
else. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to realize there is no paradise for islamic killers….just hell.
And mohammad was a closet fag.