Islamic apologists in the West routinely deny that Islamic tradition depicts Muhammad consummating his marriage with (i.e. raping) Aisha when she was nine. But Said Djabelkhir “was criticised for writing that the sacrifice of sheep predates Islam and for criticising practises including the marriage of pre-pubescent girls in some Muslim societies.”
In reality, Algeria is not being “extremist” here. Child marriage has abundant attestation in Islamic tradition and law.
Turkey’s directorate of religious affairs (Diyanet) said in January 2018 that under Islamic law, girls as young as nine can marry.
“Islam has no age barrier in marriage and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this” — Ishaq Akintola, professor of Islamic Eschatology and Director of Muslim Rights Concern, Nigeria
“There is no minimum marriage age for either men or women in Islamic law. The law in many countries permits girls to marry only from the age of 18. This is arbitrary legislation, not Islamic law.” — Dr. Abd Al-Hamid Al-‘Ubeidi, Iraqi expert on Islamic law
There is no minimum age for marriage and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.” — Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council
“Islam does not forbid marriage of young children.” — Pakistan’s Council of Islamic Ideology
These authorities say these things because hadiths that Muslims consider authentic record that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:
“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).
Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).
Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.
Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat: “Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.
Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:
The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” [Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.
Other countries make Muhammad’s example the basis of their laws regarding the legal marriageable age for girls. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: “Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed.”
According to Amir Taheri in The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution (pp. 90-91), Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful to give their own daughters away accordingly: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” When he took power in Iran, he lowered the legal marriageable age of girls to nine, in accord with Muhammad’s example.
“Algerian academic gets 3 years for ‘offending Islam,'” AFP, April 22, 2021 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A renowned Algerian scholar on Islam, Said Djabelkhir, was handed a three year prison sentence Thursday for “offending Islam”, but pledged to appeal and keep fighting for “freedom” of thought.
Djabelkhir, 53, who has called for “reflection” on Islam’s founding texts, was put on trial after seven lawyers and a fellow academic made complaints against him.
Speaking to AFP after the verdict, Djabelkhir, who was released on bail, said he was surprised by the severity of the sentence and that he would appeal to the Court of Cassation if necessary.
“We have the misfortune to be doing research in Algeria,” said the academic, a specialist on Sufi Islam.
But “the fight for freedom of conscience is non-negotiable. It is a fight which must continue.”
A little earlier, Djabelkhir’s lawyer Moumen Chadi, who also expressed shock over the ruling, said his client had “been sentenced to three years in prison… (for) offending the precepts of Islam.”
“There is no proof,” the lawyer said, describing the case as baseless.
The offence he was convicted of can be punished by up to five years in prison.
The scholar, author of two well-known works, was criticised for writing that the sacrifice of sheep predates Islam and for criticising practises including the marriage of pre-pubescent girls in some Muslim societies.
Algerian law stipulates a three to five year prison term and or a fine for “anyone who offends the Prophet or denigrates the dogmatic precepts of Islam, whether it be by writings, drawings, a statement or another means”.
– ‘Reflection necessary’ –
During his trial earlier this month, Djabelkhir defended himself against accusations that he had “harmed Islam”, the religion of the Algerian state, arguing he had only provided “academic reflections”….
James Lincoln says
So, Djabelkhir “offended the prophet or denigrated the dogmatic precepts of islam”
Translation: he told the truth about the fake prophet and the horrific religious/political ideology that is islam.
Keys says
“Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies” ~George Orwell
“Lawless are they that make their wills their law” ~ Shakespeare
Fits Islam, Leftism, Wokeism, Communism, Satanism, … any evil.
mortimer says
Any pedophile cannot be a valid prophet.
gravenimage says
That’s not how pious Muslims see it…
mortimer says
No six-year old child has the understanding to decide to be married. Mohammed’s treatment of Aisha was child abuse.
Giacomo Latta says
Your beloved religion, Sam, by means of the koran, dictates the unconditional hatred of muslims toward members of one particular religion, It also dictates the murder of all unbelievers by your crowd, if given the chance. There is humanity somewhere in all that pigshit? You should not be giving any lectures on human decency. And where do you draw your statistics from?
Hugh says
Your point well made. I am just amazed that it has to be made.
gravenimage says
Mortimer. as you know, I was *not* condoning child rape–just noting how pious Muslims think.
gravenimage says
Giacomo, “Sam” has been banned here for advocating violence–he must have sneaked back in. I imagine the post you replied to has been removed.
tim gallagher says
Spot on, James. It should be so obvious that this islamic garbage of marrying off incredibly young girls, even if that evil maggot Muhammad (as you say, the fake prophet) offended in this way with Aisha, is just completely wrong. It should be a basic understanding that almost everyone can understand. islam is so sick on this issue of paedophilia and so many other issues, that is for sure. This evil, barbaric load of garbage called Islam has to go.
Giacomo Latta says
Telling the followers and future adherents of someone else’s ”religion” that Jews are monkeys and apes, or vice versa, reflects a touch of humanity? How about ”baboonity?” If the Talmud instructs Jews to start wars in perpetuity then please quote chapter and verse in the Talmud. I am always ready to learn from those more learned than me, and until you prove otherwise that does not include you.
Jews have never been considered for a second Diaspora even though the original Diaspora provoked by Assyrians and muslims created that possibility. The only recent Diasporas have occurred in muslim-dominated countries. No Western countries have created other Diasporas or pogroms except the Soviet Union and Hitler’s Germany.
All the ugly things I read about Islam are false? Then the koran is false. So where do you think true Islam lies?
Shakespeare may have been a good writer of fiction but he never led any country. The UK still has many Jewish citizens despite the many repetitions and performances of The Merchant of Venice.
As for my personal responsibility in this matter I have not been murdering anybody over the past 200 years. But if anybody tells me that I should be killed because I don’t believe in the same fairy tales then I have the right to hate them as much as I like. How much is that? None of your Allah-damned business.
It would be more appropriate to say that 6 million Jews were victims of genocide, by Hitler and his hate-filled fans worldwide.
Mariforever says
Exactly
Felix Katz says
Ya means ta tell me Jeffrey Epstein should a claimed to be an Islam………….he coulda beat the rap an been a free man today………….???
Chris says
Did someone understood something?
gravenimage says
Algeria: Islamic scholar criticizes child marriage, gets three years in prison for ‘offending Islam’
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Just appalling miscarriage of justice–this poor man.
But it does not surprise. Pedoophilia and child “marriage” is key point of Islam–the “Prophet” himself “married” a little girl at six and began raping her at nine.
mortimer says
Child abuse is a normative part of Islam … Islam has so many different ways to abuse children.
The threat of honor-killing is only one of them.
Mohammed was asked how a child could consent to marriage, and he replied: ‘By remaining silent.’
FEARFUL SILENCE IS INTERPRETED AS THE ‘CONSENT TO BE VICTIMIZED’ by Islamic scholars.
Mariforever says
Are you sure that is true ? At 9 ? He most likely was playing « doctor » with her from the time she came to his place at 6 years old and was « preparing » her with his fingers.
This is so very disgusting. A muslim friend of mine who does NOT wear the veil, who follows the religious side of her religion where prayers are concerned, went to Mecca with her husband 3 years ago but to a VIP type hotel. I never discuss religion with her but she surprised me by saying that the « natives » were very racist as well as perverted and sex obsessed.
I would say that wanting sex, can be quite common in all men haha. It’s a natural instinct to reproduce that they are born with. However in Christian societies men are encouraged as well as ordered by laws to behave in every way including controlling themselves. In Islam, it is highly encouraged with all their nasty habits for men to believe that nothing is wrong in interfering with young children. I am positive that in these days certain muslim parents must feel horrified to allow their daughter of 9 to marry.
I have lived 11 years in those countries and befriended some of their citizens just to find out how those people think.
A French writer « Odon Lafontaine » has written works concerning the origins of this religion. We have many Muslim immigrants here in France snd have had several attacks already against Christians in 2021.
gravenimage says
Mariforever wrote:
Are you sure that is true ? At 9 ? He most likely was playing « doctor » with her from the time she came to his place at 6 years old and was « preparing » her with his fingers.
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Mariforever, you may not be familiar with these canonical Hadith:
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet married me when I was six years old and he consummated his marriage when I was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 Book 67, Hadith 70
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 65
There are several others.
And in many parts of Dar-al-Islam, including Iran, “marriage” and sex are legal when the girl is just nine.
You wrote:
I am positive that in these days certain muslim parents must feel horrified to allow their daughter of 9 to marry.
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Perhaps–but not Islamic clerics:
“Turkey: Religious Affairs Ministry says it’s permissible for girls to be married at age nine”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/08/turkey-religious-affairs-ministry-says-its-permissible-for-girls-to-be-married-at-age-nine
“Philippines: Islamic scholars invoke the Qur’an in opposing law forbidding child marriage”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/11/philippines-islamic-scholars-invoke-the-quran-in-opposing-law-forbidding-child-marriage
“Malaysia: Islamic authorities say minimum age for marriage can’t be enforced as it is not specified in Islam”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/02/malaysia-islamic-authorities-say-minimum-age-for-marriage-cant-be-enforced-as-it-is-not-specified-in-islam
There are many more such cases.
Andrew Blackadder says
No word yet from the founders of the #METOO movement as yet regarding old men mulsim shagging wee muslim girls, but keep screaming that Trump is a sexist… By the by, what did these “feminists” call Bill Clinton, or Mrs Clinton, after she publicly denigrated all the women her husband shagged… Im just askin…
Its upside down world after all.
SS says
‘Child marriage’ is a euphemism in this case. Child marriage refers to the outdated custom of arranging marriage between two children, whereas in Islamic countries the male is always an adult, often middle aged, and the female is always a child, This is legalized paedophilia and should be referred as such!
Chris says
You are absolutely right!
Walter Sieruk says
It’s far better to “be guilty of offending Islam ” than being guilty of offending God.
For the Islamic practice of an adult male Muslim having a marriage with a little girl who is only a child is clearly seen by most Westerners as a blatant action of child abuse of the vilest sort.
Nevertheless this heinous Islam tradition is accepted as “normal “in most of the Islamic world. Therefore, this may serve as an example of how the influence of Islam is able to warp the cogitation of the human mind to the extent that a person who is a Muslim might not be able to understand the obvious difference between right and wrong.
Such an awful thing as not having the discerning mental power to seethe clear difference is described in the Bible. For in Isaiah 5:20. “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil…” [N.K.J.V.]
Mariforever says
Correct. Far more guilty to offend Islam. Some people say that God dies not exist. Believe it or not, I know that HE DOES EXIST because Satan is doing everything to pervert people with their evil actions… including going against the 10 Commandments.
Walter Sieruk says
That Muslim scholar was actually righteous for his criticizing the long established Islamic practice of adult Muslim males marring little girls.
Furthermore in a A jihadwatch.org article explains it well where it reads Islamic tradition records that Muhammad consummated his marriage with (i.e., raped) Aisha when she was nine, and the resultant fact that child marriage is accepted in wide swaths of the Islamic world. Child marriage has abundant attestation in Islamic tradition and law.”
Male Muslim marriage of an adult man to a young girl who is really only a child of common in the world of Islam. One of the “reasons” for this female child abuse in Islam is because of the corrupt and perverse wickedness in the hearts of men. This is seen and described in the Bible with reads “The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked; who can know it?” Jeremiah 17:9. [N.K.J.V.]
Furthermore, another “reason” girl/child marriages occur with middle aged and even old men is because the founder and prophet of Islam Muhammad married a child. Muslims throughout history as well as in current times actually view Muhammad as a “perfect man” and a “great example for them to follow.”
This well might prove the old saying to be true .The saying is that “Evil is always looking for an excuse.”
It’s also wise to remember prophet Muhammad did likewise engaged in brutal, ruthless murderous warfare. As do Muslims today such as the jihadist Muslim of ISIS, al Qaeda, Hezbollah Hamas and so forth. Many that old saying, just sited above, also explains the excuse for Muslim terrorism in the world today.
Jesus Himself Taught “By their fruits you will know them.” Matthew 7:20. Which might explain the vile child “marriage” of Muhammad and his violent and deadly behavior .Likewise also explains the twenty- first century Muslims who in child marriages and blood and murderous violence of Islam .As they see the prophet Muhammad d as their example of who to follow.
With all this about the fruits of Islam along with fruits history reveals about the life of the prophet of Islam, Muhammad .It thus further appropriate to make known that it might be in keeping with teaching of Jesus that Muhammad could well have been an actual prophet . Nevertheless the very most important thing to understand is the Muhammad was not a prophet send by God . Instead Muhammad was a lying deceptive false prophet send by Satan to start a false religion to lead many people astray.
For Jesus taught “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.” Matthew 7:15.
Mariforever says
You are so right Walter. Muhammad’s real name was Al Qasim. MHMD was ancient semitic adjective meaning the « glorious ». Muslims claim because it’s in the Bible that Muhammad WAS cited in the Bible. Utter rubbish.
Dan Gibson a Canadian who lived 30 years in the Middle East, made a great Youtube video about Mecca.
Edouard-Marie Gallez, a French historian priest, researched this religion for 10 years and wrote a book called « Le Messie et son Prophète » where he explains the origins of that religion. Since then with new technology, so much more has been discovered much to the panic of the controlling sections of that religion.
It seems Muhammad was NOT born in Mecca, most likely in Lataquié in Syria. The first mosques were pointed towards Petra and not Mecca.
Patricia Crone wrote The Meccan Trade and was able to say that Mecca was never on any of the ancient maps that were available.
Muslims are NOT allowed to question the origin nor to criticize their religion. Why ? Because the « inventions » and « untruths » would cause people to leave. That’s also why if they do leave, they are supposed to go to hell.
The Quran was written 200-250 years after Muhammad’s death.
The Judeo-Nazareans employed the Arabs to help them conquer the Judeo-Christians. They showed the Arabs their lectionaries which were a form of the Bible. They believed in Jesus but that he was not crucified nor that he was not the son of God. The Arabs were told that Jesus was coming back and were invited to help him when he returned. Jesus didn’t return and after they were waiting for too long, of course the Arabs got rid of the Judeo-Nazareans.
It’s so strange, I knew nothing about this religion but when going to live in the Emirates 41 years ago (for 4 years) I bought my first Quran (in English) read it and felt something just was not right. So many contradictory verses, so many things that had come from apocryphal gospels. Then a few years later while living in Algeria for 2 years, I bought the Quran in French to justify my opinion. It’s very incomprehensible indeed. Most Muslims have never read it at all. In the Arabic version, according to Sam Al Deeb a Palestinian Christian, there are many words in Aramean, Syriac and Hebrew in the Quran.
Okay, let me stop here. I tend to go too far haha. All I can say now is thank God I am a Christian. Thank God that Robert Spencer had this sight too. Oh the terrorist attack that happened at the Police station day ago in France, was in St Léger en Yvelines, just a few kilometers from where we live.
Walter Sieruk says
The public Christian speaker and scholar on Islam , Jay Smith , in one of his many lecturers on the origin of Islam and Islam today with its violent murderous terrorism also revealed the little known historical fact that all the “First mosques were pointed towards Petra and not Mecca.”
Mariforever says
I know that too. Jay Smith has great informative videos on youtube. I have seen him having discussions with an ex-muslim who rightfully supports everythkng Jay says.
gravenimage says
The Judeo-Nazareans employed the Arabs to help them conquer the Judeo-Christians.
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No Christian groups benefitted from the violent rise of Islam–this is, with all respect, an odd claim.