“When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks…” (Qur’an 47:4)
The obvious lessons regarding deradicalization and subjecting unsuspecting members of the public to unnecessary danger will not be drawn.
“Jihadi terrorist Usman Khan sat beside prisoner rehab volunteer, 23, moments before fatally stabbing her in the neck in Fishmonger’s Hall attack, inquest hears,” by Arthur Martin and Jack Wright, Daily Mail, April 13, 2021:
A convicted terrorist calmly chatted to a Cambridge graduate at a prisoner rehabilitation conference before stabbing her in the neck, an inquest heard yesterday.
Jihadi Usman Khan was photographed sitting one seat away from Saskia Jones, 23, in the banqueting hall at Fishmongers’ Hall in central London in November 2019.
Video footage showed Khan enjoying brunch and mingling with delegates in conference rooms which are lined with royal crests and a portrait of the Queen.
Staff and guests were unaware that the terrorist was wearing a fake suicide vest under his jacket and had three knives in his bag.
During the lunch break, Khan went to the men’s toilets and taped an eight-inch kitchen knife to each hand.
When he opened the door he saw 25-year-old Jack Merritt – another Cambridge University graduate who was helping to run the Learning Together rehabilitation programme – and stabbed him 12 times.
Police later found Khan’s prayer book and a third knife inside a bag in the toilet. He had inscribed the knives with the symbol of Allah.
Khan then moved towards the cloakroom where Miss Jones was standing and plunged a knife into her neck. Both victims died of their wounds minutes later.
At the time of the attack, Khan was on licence and was wearing an electronic tag.
He had been released the previous year after serving eight years for terror offences, including plotting to attack the London Stock Exchange in 2010.
Khan later stabbed criminology graduate Stephanie Szczotko in the arm before maiming fellow staff member Isobel Rowbotham….
DCI Brown replied: ‘Yes, we don’t know what the content of that conversation was.’
Khan scratched a symbol meaning ‘Allah’ into the blades he used to kill the victims, the inquest heard….
During the hearing today, statements and pen portraits were read aloud on behalf of the victims’ loved ones.
Jurors heard that Mr Merritt had worked at The Punter Pub in Cambridge for a short time where his boss believed he was ‘destined to do great things’ and remembered him for his ‘swagger.’…
Friends from Manchester University, where Mr Merritt studied at undergraduate level and achieved a First, said: ‘It was clear that Jack was intelligent, but when we started to study miscarriages of justice in further detail, it became clear how strongly Jack felt about criminal justice.’…
‘But Jack was also angry, frustrated, selfless and stubborn. He was angry because he saw our society failing those most in need….
Yes, but not in the way he thought.
Student of History says
And this is why you cannot trust even the most “well integrated” or even “assimilated” follower of the islam-ideology wherever you may be. One simply cannot know with any certainty WHEN another will do as commanded by the ideology’s defining trilogy of texts.
Michael Copeland says
“Act like you are his friend. Then kill him.”
So urged Sheikh Mubarak Gilani.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/01/deception-by-muslims-learning-curve-needed/
Ecosse1314 says
Idiot woman…didn’t deserve it but talk about asking for it.
gravenimage says
“Deradicalization” does not work–but at least this woman *did* understand that “radical” Islam–that is, orthodox Islam–is indeed a problem.
revereridesagain says
Remember that song about the kind lady and the snake? Well, she should have.
BlackSabbath says
The islamists should be kept in cages like Dr. Hannibal Lector (Anthony Hopkins) in the Silence of the Lambs. This should include chains in hands and legs and a mouth-cage during transpiration. This way they won’t be able to stab or bite.
gravenimage says
Deport.
STEVE says
Deport…? Just exactly where should they deport him/them to? gi, that is the laziest, most irresponsible reply you’ve had to date and you’ve had some doozies, absolutely ridiculous. These are rabid dogs, that choose NOT to get treatment, not to change. They deserve nothing more than to be eradicated, as inhumanely and expeditiously and publicly as possible. Nothing else will deter them, they fear nothing ESPECIALLY DEPORTATION! Nothing will ever change gi until this happens. EVERYTHING, REPEAT, EVERYTHING ELSE IS A FREE PASS AND AN OPEN INVITATION TO COME BACK TO ANY WESTERN, NOW IDIOT RUN COUNTRY, AND COMMIT THE SAME ATROCITIES! HAVEN’T YOU LEARNED ANYTHING OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS ABOUT THESE ANIMALS?
gravenimage says
STEVE wrote:
Deport…? Just exactly where should they deport him/them to?
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I have been unable to confirm this, but I believe I read that this Jihadist is Pakistani.
More:
gi, that is the laziest, most irresponsible reply you’ve had to date and you’ve had some doozies, absolutely ridiculous.
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Britain let this Jihadist out of prison, where he was able to murder a woman.
Unless Britain is willing to imprison every Jihadist for life–which they clearly are not–then deportation after they serve their sentences does indeed make the most sense.
If Britain is not even giving Jihadists life sentences then the idea that it is poised to use the death penalty against them is obviously not the case. You *do* know that Britain has abolished the death penalty? I consider this unwise–but I also don’t see the UK reversing this policy any time soon.
Far from being “lazy and irresponsible”, it is clear that the main problem is our allowing Muslims to flood into our civilized nations, and then not deporting Jihadists.
Muslims cannot murder people like this poor woman if they are not here–this should be obvious.
And deportation *should* mean that they cannot return–I thought this was clear.
And note that STEVE here does not say how my opposing Jihad terror here is “lazy and irresponsible”. No surprise there.
In fact, most of STEVE’s comments here castigate and use profanity against Anti-Jihadists like Mortimer, Lilith Wept, IQ al Rassooli, and myself.
He has also bizarrely suggested that Marine Le Pen is licking her lips over Jihad terrorism–*really* odd stuff:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/france-muslims-set-church-on-fire-spray-allahu-akbar-on-the-wall#comment-1953863
Raja says
This religion of flying donkeys, 72 virgins and pearly boys in paradise, “black dogs are devil”, ” Koran that has not changed in 1400 years” must be exposed.
Zakir Naik and his ilk should be charged for instigation of genocide and the social media for helping in carrying out the Satanic order.
JohnTheRevelator says
I wonder how things would look if instead of pandering and sucking up to Muslims everybody started hating them? Imagine all the lives that could’ve been saved if we executed terrorists instead of pretending they could be turned into normal, integrated citizens.
We live in a delusional state when it comes to Islam. We grossly underestimate the threat Muslims pose and make excuses for their bad behavior, like blaming guns or mental illness. In the meantime, we viciously go after people who talk honestly about Islam.
This is a recipe for disaster. So long as we keep pretending we are not at war with Islam, the death toll for non-Muslims will continue to rise and Muslims conversely will contain to gain power and numbers, until Islamification will become inevitable except by warfare.
Meanwhile innocents like his poor victims will continue to pay the price for our ignorance and incompetence. And by ‘our’ I mean the media and elites who have the power to turn the tide of this war yet refuse to.
Ramakrishna K says
Totally in agreement with your views
Islam is a mental disorder. Rest of Humanity should recognize this TRUTH most urgently
Raja says
Why try deradicalize the radicals when the elites need be sanitized of “poor knowledge of Islam”.
Those poopy elites need a shot or two to gather mental and moral strength.
Walter Sieruk says
This is still more proof the such deradicalization programs do not and will not work to “straighten out”, as in turn a violent jihadist into a peaceful man .
No matter our sincere the people are who set such programs are or how much they truly hope to a Muslim terrorism into a non-violent person.
This is because those committed Muslim terrorists are so thoroughly ingrained in both mind ,soul and heart with hard core non-watered down Islam with all its heinous deadly violence the no about of therapy can change them nor can even best psychiatrists and psychologists help them.
As the philosopher ,Immanuel Kant wrote “Out ofthe crooked timber of humanity can no straight things can ever be made.”
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Likewise , the ancient Greek playwright , Aristophanes , wrote “Even the wisest of the wise can make a crab walk straight.”
Keith O says
The criteria for parole needs to be seriously re written. and the arseholes who make these stupid laws need to be held to account.
James Lincoln says
Khan had *pretended* that he was “deradicalized”.
The entire Western world should make note of this…
Walter Sieruk says
No matter how well intended a deradicalization will be only a practice of futility because the violent jihadists of of Islam have been completely and are indoctrinated and ruined by bloody deadly violence Qu ‘ran based jihad theology of Islam .
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As seen the violence and killing for “disbelievers” instructed in the Qu ‘ran in Surah 2:191. 4:89. 5:33. 9:5, 111–123. 47:4.
gravenimage says
UK: Convicted jihad terrorist had friendly chat with woman at deradicalization event, then stabbed her in the neck
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Just horrifying–and more proof that “deradicalization” does not work. This murderous Jihadist should have been in prison or deported.
gregbeetham says
How naive are these idiots? A ‘learning together rehabilitation program’ who dreamt up that stupid idea?
It just shows how out of their depth these idiots are, they obviously know nothing about Islam or the history of Jihad and think they can placate a declared Jihadist into being something acceptable to society without studying the doctrine of the Satanic cult in detail.
These kinds of insane assaults on normalcy will continue until the establishment and our culpable media take advice from people who know what they are talking about, people like Robert Spencer or David Wood or Bill Warner or the Apostate Prophet and others.
Take heed, we are at war with Islam and its followers, history shows this to be true, there is no such thing as a ‘radicalized Muslim’ or a ‘moderate Muslim’ there is only Islam and the doctrine of deceit and warfare and jihad and martyrdom against the disbelievers, which is us.
Satan doesn’t change his nature because stupid people are being nice; the only way is to get rid of him by getting rid of his murderous followers.
China has the solution to the problem; it’s probably the only thing that China has got right in living memory.
Christopher Watson says
I went to a lunch with an old family friend recently. She is 97. Her son was there who is a little younger than me. After a good meal he and I got to talking about moslem immigration. In Leicester and London the English are now a minority, the moslem birthrate is greater than ours. No, he believed the majority of moslems were just like us; the jihadists were a tiny minority who would learn to love us. He had not heard of FGM and had never opened the Koran or heard any of it’s verses. The majority of our countrymen/women are like this man. Islamists are flooding into Europe and the west and we are ignoring it because we are being denied the truth and any opinion which opposes the views of the governing class.
gravenimage says
Sad to hear, Christopher. There is a *lot* of denial.
Trevor Loughlin says
Agree. Visions of 100 years from now: A white Christian woman is in a pit about to be stoned by a crazed islamicist in what has become the Islamic state of Europe. Suddenly a heroic member of the Chinese Red Army invasion force bayonet’s him just as he raises the stone. Europe is saved and the Chinese institute a rigorous de-islamification program comparable to the denazification program the American’s introduced after the second world war. The dysgenic effects of Islam meant that Islamised Europe, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey and all of the Middle East excluding Israel did not have the intellectual capacity to create advanced weapons to resist the Chinese invasion, prompted by a small nuclear bomb attack in a major Chinese city by Islamic terrorists. Members of the Islamic council, run from Saudi Arabia, and all members of the religious police were of course executed just like Nazi war criminals. The Chinese introduced a eugenic program since inbreeding had resulted in vast numbers of mutants with severe mental and physical disabilities leading to the collapse of the health and welfare systems. The Chinese confiscated the middle east’s entire oil wealth for reparations. Democracy was seen as weakness, only the ruthless Chinese communist state had been able to resist the cancer of Islam. Some people lamented the end of democracy and the atheist new Chinese empire covering all of South Asia, Europe and North Africa. But most were eternally grateful to be relived from the terrible rapist theocracy which had been mostly achieved by the Islamic breeder-slave women producing enough mutants to outbreed the natives. The Chinese soon addressed that problem as well.
gravenimage says
Actually, China has been playing footsie with Jiahdist regimes for many year now. I think your fantasy of our being rescued by the Communist Chinese is just that.
Michael Copeland says
the “Learning Together” programme had not started on its own Learning Curve about Islam. The management had not informed either themselves or their personnel of basic Islamic doctrines. Had they done so, they would have been alerted not only to Islam’s Permissible Lying, but also, critically, to Islam’s standing instruction to kill kafirs.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/01/deception-by-muslims-learning-curve-needed/
Carl says
Common on news story, they say “stabbed in the neck” when in reality the murderer was (or attempting to) saw he victims head off.
gravenimage says
True, Carl.
Andrew Blackadder says
At the risk of sounding uncaring, I wonder what went through the minds of these two do gooders while they were being stabbed to death, by one of the people they were trying to help….. Why me… What are you doing, I love muslims…Some of my best friends are muslim… I know you and your religion are misunderstood…. Oh shit….
Trevor Loughlin says
The two victims were Guardian reading liberals, who were martyred according to their beliefs. Good Christians believe in redemption. Most prisoners can be rehabilitated. Crime can be seen as a treatable disease like pneumonia,. Unfortunately the disease of Islam, a criminal creed like no other, is more akin to Ebola or Rabies. Extreme precautions are required when dealing with those infected by this mind -virus.
Michael Copeland says
Ebola or rabies…….
“You can be full of love and kindness, but you cannot sleep next to a mad dog.”
Ashin Wirathu, Buddhist activist
gravenimage says
I don’t want to see *any* Infidels fall victim to Jihad murder.
Sean says
‘I don’t want to see *any* Infidels fall victim to Jihad murder.’
The brutal truth of the matter is that many lefty-liberal infidels would not care if Robert Spencer was…you know the word I was about to type.
I did not, *not*, celebrate the murders of Saskia Jones and Jack Merritt.
The Left wants us dead *dead* *DEAD*. They want us unemployed, friendless, out-of-action, “dead”.
There is no centre-right option on the ballot paper.
Goofy says
I guess that the theme of “De-radicalisation” itself caused offense. This has nothing to do with radicalisation but with following the Koran! There is no “Islam Light”. Either you are a Muslim who follows the Koran and the Hadith or you are not (and you should possibly be killed for it!).
Btw can anyone please explain to me why Islam is recognised as a religion? After all the Nazis didn’t enjoy such status.
James Lincoln says
Goofy,
Point taken. It should be called “De-islamization”…
gravenimage says
+1
Giacomo Latta says
Any time is Jihad time.
OLD GUY says
Goes to show you can’t trust Islam. Islam is like having a rattle snake for a pet, you never know when it is going to strike, but you know it will.
These political leaders that have opened the borders to the Muslim/Islamic migration invasion are close to being traitors to the citizens that put them in office. It’s sad to see what has happened across Europe with the islamic migration invasion and the resulting violence and economic cost to continually support these migrants.
So what is the incentive for Biden and Harris to open the borders to Muslim from countries across the world? Are they recruiting VOTES for the future, or are they being bought off with CASH to the Party or their personnel bank accounts off shore? Gotta be some reason you sell your citizens out.
James Lincoln says
OLD GUY,
I sometimes use the pit bull analogy:
The pesky neighbor with three pit bulls *always* says something like “oh, they won’t hurt you. After all, they haven’t attacked the mailman in over three days. It’s all in how you treat them…”
Carl says
They get invited to the party! The elites will remember their names at the boating yaught club.