Jihad Watch is an excellent supplement for those who wish to get up to speed on the many factors within the nature that’s percolating within the world of peoples possessing an Islamist mindset today.
Ade Fegansays
Guide to “hate speech” laws :
LEGAL :
“We must smash the skulls of unbelievers” : Muslin cleric
ILLEGAL :
“Muslim cleric says :
“We must smash the skulls of unbelievers”” : Unbeliever
gravenimagesays
Spot on, Ade.
gregbeethamsays
As usual I enjoyed the video (any video) with Robert Spencer in it, all being essential knowledge basically.
I do think it’s however that it’s dangerous to assume there is a large population of Muslims who aren’t knowledgeable about Islam and therefore aren’t committed to defending Muhammad and his teachings as the more fundamentalists are, the problem with that is they are Muslims after all and they might have to make a choice at some point whether they will support Islam or not unless they want to become exposed as an apostate which carries a death penalty as well, taqiyya might get them through in many circumstances, but possibly not all.
Ok, there could potentially be a large number who might like to not support the teachings of Muhammad but are too frightened not too if there is a danger of them being exposed as non believers.
In any case there is always the danger that a given ‘moderate’ Muslim will revert to kind without warning due to the thought of the inevitable time when they will be assessed in the afterlife by Allah about their devotion, or the lack thereof.
JCsays
Your conclusion is based on insufficient information about islam. 70 countries believed the same as you do and allowed moslems to populate their countries. All of them were eventually genocided and lost their countries to islam. All of them. No moslem should be allowed to live in a non-moslem country because they will completely wreck it. The only solutions that have ever worked are full expulsion and death.
sima skaricasays
JC I dont completely agree with you
For example my friends from Sudan are secular, not practicing any religion and hated the regimes in their countries.
I am Jewish and my friends stem from a Muslim country
One is a Dr. and his wife tends to the elderly
Its unfair to paint all with one brush
gravenimagesays
In other words, sima, you friends reject everything intrinsic about Islam and are virtual apostates. They are not actually Muslim.
Christopher Watsonsays
The problem is Sima, that while your friends may be ex-muslims or Islamists there will be many who will come to Europe hidden in the thousands of refugees crossing our borders. To find the terrorists is not a cost-effective operation. Changing their opinions has not worked. To simply halt the influx at the border would stop all problems to do with the Islamists. The next step is to evict all those who wish to impose their Islamist laws, rules and customs on the indigenous populations.
gregbeethamsays
What gave you the idea I believe that Muslims should be allowed to populate my country? Show me where I said any such thing.
gregbeethamsays
Btw, where is the edit button so you can fix some glitch in syntax after you post?
Infidelsays
Yesterday, I was in the process of composing a long response to the video in WordPad while watching, but my laptop froze (Thank you, Bill, for letting Windows 10 turn into this ? while you plot w/ globalist elitists on controlling the world) and I lost it all (unlike Word, WordPad doesn’t save in the event of a crash, and I refuse to pay an annual subscription for Office when I rarely use the package)
Anyway, on your question, JW has enough of a struggle having comments that instantly appear. They once tried an experiment w/ IntenseDebate, but that platform was so buggy that it went away. Unfortunately, if one digs into old JW archives, most of those comments are gone
gregbeethamsays
Yeah, the PC I’m currently using has recently taken up the habit of suddenly going AWOL in the middle of me composing something with MS Word 2007 edition, nothing interrupts PC OS updates it seems these days, it’s a bit disconcerting to have the PC suddenly do its own thing and the screen goes blank and the hard disk is rattling away for many minutes with nothing on the screen to say what’s going on.
I think also they keep trying to promote Office 365 to me but I don’t like their subscription model, I bought Office Home 2013 as well and it’s on one of my other PC’s but the thing is I can’t justify the amount of money Microsoft wants to extract out of a user of their stuff, I must have spent a fortune over the years building PC’s and buying various editions of Windows and only once did they send me a free upgrade disc from Vista Ultimate to 7 Ultimate, well sort of free I think I had to send $25 to cover postage.
What gets me going is that Microsoft says the Operating System dies when the PC dies, you can’t toss the old PC in the junk and build a new one and use the previous OS, well, that’s their official attitude at least.
I did install Softmaker Office (free download) on one of my PC’s and it does almost offer the same thing as MS Office Home but I haven’t used it for a while so I can’t remember if the spell checker and syntax checker is as good but I’m pretty sure it can do auto-save but you might have to set some settings.
Infidelsays
Yeah, I’m trying to restore the other laptop I have w/ one of the BSDs or Linuxes, so that I don’t need to use this one. While that thing was working, I didn’t have to worry about the computer dying on me
gravenimagesays
IntenseDebate had a lot of great features, Infidel, but eventually broke down under the large number of comments here. The best you can do now is find posts from individual posters. Here is mine:
But the full comments threads no longer exist. Very frustrating.
I’m just glad that this system is actually working now–and that we can reply to individual comments.
Infidelsays
Graven, if you look at the older threads – pre IntenseDebate – you won’t find them. Which is a disappointment: there was a lot of insightful stuff there back in those days
gravenimagesays
Infidel, this is not linked to IntenseDebate. After about five years–I am not sure of the exact time-line–comments threads disappear. IntenseDebate was in use here about ten years ago.
This saddens me–often the comments are as enlightening as the story itself–but this is now policy here.
mortimersays
Robert Spencer is one of very few experts on the motivation of political Islam. It would be impossible for any debaters to best him, due to his retentive memory and his extensive understanding of canonical Islamic literature and Islamic history.
There would be hundreds of academics with Robert Spencer’s understanding if governments would finance the study of political Islam in universities. Fear of Islam combined with academic inaction will lead to paralysis and defeat.
gravenimagesays
+1
ME Infidelsays
“All the major schools of Islamic jurisprudence teach warfare against non-believers.” Just saved you 51 minutes.
How many books, videos, websites on Islam are really needed? I recommend pursuing whether or not Muhammad actually existed or was he a fabrication to bind together the Arab armies in their conquests. The heads of 1.5 billion Muslims will certainly explode with this claim. It just needs to be clearly proved.
John Francis Austinsays
The expression is actually “Heart Of Oak” referring to the centre of the trunk of the tree
Inside the Cambium Layer & the bark
The bit of the tree that is its strength
Ask ANY moslim if they follow the koran ; if they reply yes , then , AVOID them like the plaque — if they say no , then ask them why they are Still moslim !!!
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Andrew Blackadder says
The moderate muslim will hold the feet of the infidel while the radical muslim cuts off his head.
gravenimage says
All too often the case, Andrew.
karl says
HItler did not kill 20 million jews without the help of the german people.
gravenimage says
The number is a bit off, but your point is correct.
karl says
Islam is incompatible with the ideas and ideals of a free people.
Vicki Coghlan says
Robert is a very knowledgeable man on Islam, more than any moslem knows about there ideology.
AmySoldier says
Jihad Watch is an excellent supplement for those who wish to get up to speed on the many factors within the nature that’s percolating within the world of peoples possessing an Islamist mindset today.
Ade Fegan says
Guide to “hate speech” laws :
LEGAL :
“We must smash the skulls of unbelievers” : Muslin cleric
ILLEGAL :
“Muslim cleric says :
“We must smash the skulls of unbelievers”” : Unbeliever
gravenimage says
Spot on, Ade.
gregbeetham says
As usual I enjoyed the video (any video) with Robert Spencer in it, all being essential knowledge basically.
I do think it’s however that it’s dangerous to assume there is a large population of Muslims who aren’t knowledgeable about Islam and therefore aren’t committed to defending Muhammad and his teachings as the more fundamentalists are, the problem with that is they are Muslims after all and they might have to make a choice at some point whether they will support Islam or not unless they want to become exposed as an apostate which carries a death penalty as well, taqiyya might get them through in many circumstances, but possibly not all.
Ok, there could potentially be a large number who might like to not support the teachings of Muhammad but are too frightened not too if there is a danger of them being exposed as non believers.
In any case there is always the danger that a given ‘moderate’ Muslim will revert to kind without warning due to the thought of the inevitable time when they will be assessed in the afterlife by Allah about their devotion, or the lack thereof.
JC says
Your conclusion is based on insufficient information about islam. 70 countries believed the same as you do and allowed moslems to populate their countries. All of them were eventually genocided and lost their countries to islam. All of them. No moslem should be allowed to live in a non-moslem country because they will completely wreck it. The only solutions that have ever worked are full expulsion and death.
sima skarica says
JC I dont completely agree with you
For example my friends from Sudan are secular, not practicing any religion and hated the regimes in their countries.
I am Jewish and my friends stem from a Muslim country
One is a Dr. and his wife tends to the elderly
Its unfair to paint all with one brush
gravenimage says
In other words, sima, you friends reject everything intrinsic about Islam and are virtual apostates. They are not actually Muslim.
Christopher Watson says
The problem is Sima, that while your friends may be ex-muslims or Islamists there will be many who will come to Europe hidden in the thousands of refugees crossing our borders. To find the terrorists is not a cost-effective operation. Changing their opinions has not worked. To simply halt the influx at the border would stop all problems to do with the Islamists. The next step is to evict all those who wish to impose their Islamist laws, rules and customs on the indigenous populations.
gregbeetham says
What gave you the idea I believe that Muslims should be allowed to populate my country? Show me where I said any such thing.
gregbeetham says
Btw, where is the edit button so you can fix some glitch in syntax after you post?
Infidel says
Yesterday, I was in the process of composing a long response to the video in WordPad while watching, but my laptop froze (Thank you, Bill, for letting Windows 10 turn into this ? while you plot w/ globalist elitists on controlling the world) and I lost it all (unlike Word, WordPad doesn’t save in the event of a crash, and I refuse to pay an annual subscription for Office when I rarely use the package)
Anyway, on your question, JW has enough of a struggle having comments that instantly appear. They once tried an experiment w/ IntenseDebate, but that platform was so buggy that it went away. Unfortunately, if one digs into old JW archives, most of those comments are gone
gregbeetham says
Yeah, the PC I’m currently using has recently taken up the habit of suddenly going AWOL in the middle of me composing something with MS Word 2007 edition, nothing interrupts PC OS updates it seems these days, it’s a bit disconcerting to have the PC suddenly do its own thing and the screen goes blank and the hard disk is rattling away for many minutes with nothing on the screen to say what’s going on.
I think also they keep trying to promote Office 365 to me but I don’t like their subscription model, I bought Office Home 2013 as well and it’s on one of my other PC’s but the thing is I can’t justify the amount of money Microsoft wants to extract out of a user of their stuff, I must have spent a fortune over the years building PC’s and buying various editions of Windows and only once did they send me a free upgrade disc from Vista Ultimate to 7 Ultimate, well sort of free I think I had to send $25 to cover postage.
What gets me going is that Microsoft says the Operating System dies when the PC dies, you can’t toss the old PC in the junk and build a new one and use the previous OS, well, that’s their official attitude at least.
I did install Softmaker Office (free download) on one of my PC’s and it does almost offer the same thing as MS Office Home but I haven’t used it for a while so I can’t remember if the spell checker and syntax checker is as good but I’m pretty sure it can do auto-save but you might have to set some settings.
Infidel says
Yeah, I’m trying to restore the other laptop I have w/ one of the BSDs or Linuxes, so that I don’t need to use this one. While that thing was working, I didn’t have to worry about the computer dying on me
gravenimage says
IntenseDebate had a lot of great features, Infidel, but eventually broke down under the large number of comments here. The best you can do now is find posts from individual posters. Here is mine:
https://www.intensedebate.com/people/gravenimage
But the full comments threads no longer exist. Very frustrating.
I’m just glad that this system is actually working now–and that we can reply to individual comments.
Infidel says
Graven, if you look at the older threads – pre IntenseDebate – you won’t find them. Which is a disappointment: there was a lot of insightful stuff there back in those days
gravenimage says
Infidel, this is not linked to IntenseDebate. After about five years–I am not sure of the exact time-line–comments threads disappear. IntenseDebate was in use here about ten years ago.
This saddens me–often the comments are as enlightening as the story itself–but this is now policy here.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer is one of very few experts on the motivation of political Islam. It would be impossible for any debaters to best him, due to his retentive memory and his extensive understanding of canonical Islamic literature and Islamic history.
There would be hundreds of academics with Robert Spencer’s understanding if governments would finance the study of political Islam in universities. Fear of Islam combined with academic inaction will lead to paralysis and defeat.
gravenimage says
+1
ME Infidel says
“All the major schools of Islamic jurisprudence teach warfare against non-believers.” Just saved you 51 minutes.
How many books, videos, websites on Islam are really needed? I recommend pursuing whether or not Muhammad actually existed or was he a fabrication to bind together the Arab armies in their conquests. The heads of 1.5 billion Muslims will certainly explode with this claim. It just needs to be clearly proved.
John Francis Austin says
The expression is actually “Heart Of Oak” referring to the centre of the trunk of the tree
Inside the Cambium Layer & the bark
The bit of the tree that is its strength
gravenimage says
It is also a metaphor for the stalwart.
DAVID R MORRISON says
Ask ANY moslim if they follow the koran ; if they reply yes , then , AVOID them like the plaque — if they say no , then ask them why they are Still moslim !!!