Do their murdered victims get to leave hatred behind?
“Filmmaker hopes new doc on Canadian and other ISIS brides will help ‘leave hatred behind,’ allow repatriation,” CBC News, April 30, 2021 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Hamilton native Kimberly Polman is among former ISIS brides featured in The Return: Life After ISIS by Alba Sotorra Clua and her Barcelona-based production company, and the filmmaker hopes the new documentary will give insight into the issues surrounding repatriation.
Sotorra Clua said the documentary, currently one of the films being shown digitally during the Hot Docs Festival, focuses on the plight of Polman and other women from Western countries who joined the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, but then came to regret it.
“This brings a different light on the issues and the question of repatriation,” Sotorra Clua told CBC News via telephone from Barcelona.
“Civil society, politicians and policymakers — it can make them rethink the way we are dealing with this issue.
“At the moment, the Western world is rejecting repatriation, and maybe if they watch the film, they can have a different point of view,” said Sotorra Clua, of Alba Sotorra Cinema Productions….
The group of Western women in the Syrian detention camp featured in the documentary are from different parts of the world, including Canada, the U.S., the U.K., the Netherlands and Germany.
They include Briton Shamima Begum and Hoda Muthana, both from the United States….
“The only way out for all of us is to leave hatred behind and start over with compassion, forgiveness and understanding,” Sotorra Clua added.
wpm says
Leave them in the bed they made , make poor choices , turn your back on your country ,cultural, and go Jihad gangster traveling to ‘find yourself” in joining the head chopping ,raping ,stealing, child molesting gang .You lose your rights to live in a civilized country, you are worst then the people born into that cultural because you had a choice .
mortimer says
These JIHAD-WARRIOR BRIDES really mean that they want to be exonerated with no consequences for joining a criminal conspiracy.
They left their countries behind, they burned their passports and left the ashes behind and joined the caliphate. Then they participated in crimes against humanity and now want to be welcomed by the governments they spurned with no consequences. No dice.
Participants in crimes against humanity must be punished to the full extent of the law in the countries where the crimes were committed.
gravenimage says
Yes–they are only sad that the “Caliphate” was destroyed. Otherwise, how many of them would still be happy raising Jihadists, violently imposing Shari’ah law, and using Yezidi slaves?
And note that many of these “ISIS brides” are enforcing Shari’ah in the refugee camps, and threatening, assaulting, and even murdering other women who do not comply.
K says
Exactly! Just because you’re young, doesn’t mean you don’t have consequences from your choices.
I always tell my grand-daughter, “You only get one today. Make decisions you’ll be proud of down the road. Living with regret stinks.”
wpm says
Lets cry a thousand tears for the “poor things” who though that traveling to Jihad land thinking like it was a summer camp great adventure .These are adults who had to go out of their way to join a violent gang, they gave up their rights when they left the country and became traitors to civilization.
mortimer says
It’s an international legal matter that involves the international treaty concerning ‘stateless persons’. It depends on interpreting those commitments.
(ref. UN – Convention Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons)
Ecosse1314 says
Typical left-wing libtard with no moral compass.
mortimer says
… The RED-GREEN AXIS of EVIL.
Canada’s PM Jihadi Justin.is part of it.
gravenimage says
It looks as though Alba Sotorra Clua has made other propaganda films whitewashing the horrors of Islam.
Linde Barrera says
To gravenimage- Propaganda is exactly what it is. And it seems like Alba Sotorra Clua does not have a clue about Islamic doctrines. ??
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Who is this traitorous maggot directing this film and who is financing it? Let bygones be bygones? Don’t lose your head over this issue! No, we need something more akin to the Nuremberg Trials to honor the victims of these atrocities with the justice they deserve and the punishments their murderers have earned.
Eur says
“ehhh it was just a joke !!! We were just playing jihad. Some were Muhammad and others were infidelsl (Yazidis, Christians, apostates, Druze, Kurds … people who deserve to die for being at war with Islam) .In the West, children also play cowboys and Indians and you do not punish them !!! let us return to impose a theocracy in your country or in
otherwise you are Islamophobes, racists and xenophobes.”
born saturday says
its amazing audacity the way the followers of satan demand to be forgiven when their religion of hate war slavery and torture particularly remains in their heart and they will be worshiping satan for their rest of their lives… being jihajist includes these demands as it seems and ofcourse the satan lusting islamolusting leaders of the west would be more than willing to reintroduce more carcinogenic cells to the civilised world in order to make sure that their purposes are fulfilled…
gravenimage says
And dhimmi Alba Sotorra Clua is happy to aid these Muslim thugs.
JOEYN says
What hatred? Your not being allowed in back into the Western country you left is being done by the West, with utmost love for you and your loved ones. To do otherwise would be hatred. As you mature and wise up you will come to appreciate the truth of this. Just be patient.
gravenimage says
Alas, pious Muslims do not mature.
JOEYN says
Oops! I forgot. That is true. Anyway still all done out of love.
gravenimage says
Yep.
Raja says
Why should they be taken back? They joined the Satan’s party for possible mass murder like Sep 11.
Is the West so out of its head that they should not be charged for treason? They were not into video war games but real ones.
A leader like Winston Churchill would have seen justice prevail. The same cannot be said of modern day loonies (of the West and some democracies like S. Korea etc)
Terry Gain says
This is what they call a No Brainer, but there are 2 answers. No and Hell No.
Goofy says
Leaving your country to fight an illegal war abroad should be prosecuted as treason by any country, and capital punishment should be a possible punishment. That should be the perspective of returning in case your country has not cancelled your citizenship.
Apart from that we have an international legal challenge as all these people are very likely war criminals and have committed crimes against humanity. To deal with that we need an international war crimes tribunal based on the principles from Nuremberg. This will help us get to the bottom of this evil and it will bring to light that many if not all their crimes were considered OK by the perpetrators as they had presents in the Koran! The results of the war crimes tribunal may therefore be that the entire Koran gets it day in court to test how it measures up to legal standards of civilised countries.
PRCS says
“the aftermath of ISIS’s defeat was devastating, leaving thousands of women and children of more than 50 nationalities with nowhere to go.”
Did any of them–the extremely foolish reverts in particular–feel the slightest remorse or pity for either the adults or the children of others tortured, maimed, or murdered by their Muslim husbands during the Islamic State’s reign?
Have any of them left that “faith” since?
And had those “fighters” prevailed, would they now even give a damn?
gravenimage says
And was the aftermath of ISIS’ defeat “devastating” for the sex slaves who were freed and the would-be victims of genocide who survived?
This posits the defeat of ISIS as a *bad thing*–just appalling.
Treereen says
Of course, they want to come back now they are on the receiving end of brutality, violence and poverty. Every tactic is used to cajole, convince, shame and invoke pity in the “leaders” of the West and useful idiots who’ll lobby governments on their behalf. These “brides” know very well that eventually the slow wheel of ME justice will come to grind them underneath and there’ll only be a bad smell left afterwards. But in the West where their crimes cannot be prosecuted due to lack of evidence they see their future, after the small bump in the road which is a little prison time for joining ISIS or sometimes not even that.
ISIS and its bestiality have been around for years. It was on the governments of the West to change the law so these currently poor, downtrodden “brides”, their murderous husbands and feral “kids” would never breathe free air, let alone live comfortably off taxpayer funded welfare on their return.
gravenimage says
Few of them are being brutalized or are the victims of violence–they just don’t like being stuck in refugee camps. They want to return to the west so they can collect welfare and plot Jihad terror against the “filthy Infidels”.
somehistory says
One is a “Brit”, but “both are from the U.S.”? That’s one error.
Another error: these mozlum idiots, terrorists, are the “haters”…so how can “hate be left behind”?
They hated with a murderous hatred, their fellow citizens who weren’t supporting the islamic murderers, and joined the terror group of murderers to take part in the slaughter.
Now, they want the rest of humanity to not “hate” them….but what about their hatred of the rest of humanity? They would have to leave islam and they aren’t doing that.
They just don’t want to suffer the consequences of their choices…and that’s just too bad. Everyone must learn that choices have consequences.
somehistory says
And the idiot filmmaker…expecting that this is “new” and somehow says something these female terrorists haven’t said before.
It’s all hogwash, balderdash, and much like all criminals with an evil heart….”don’t hate me just because I committed murder, rape, torture, and hated you…still do, but I’m innocent, I tell you. Innocent and deserve compassion.”
gravenimage says
Islamic State brides urge West to ‘leave hatred behind,’ let them back in
Do their murdered victims get to leave hatred behind?
…………………
Damn good question.
And what about their future victims in the west? Is it “hatred” to care about them, as well?
tim gallagher says
My response to these vile creatures is:”Get Stuffed”. These verminous people went to join ISIS so that they could join in with all the evil, murderous and hate-filled activities that they very clearly knew that ISIS was involved in carrying out. It was no secret what ISIS were doing. The trouble with many of the people in the western world is that they will actually fall for this crap and will drop the deserved hatred these creatures deserve to receive and will welcome them back. These evil ISIS scum should be left where they are and face the full consequences for their evil actions. That would be justice. People in the western world are often too nice to these creatures and the Muslim scum continually take advantage of this niceness.
Crusades Were Right says
[“The only way out for all of us is to leave hatred behind and start over with compassion, forgiveness and understanding,” Sotorra Clua added]
You’re SO right, Ms Sotorra Clua! At first I thought we should just let these female afficionados of GENOCIDE, TORTURE, RAPE and SLAVERY rot in their prison camps, but now, after reading your words of wisdom and compassion, and seeing the smiling face of a brown-skinned Islamic woman who clearly isn’t a threat to anyone – not for the moment, anyway – I realise I was merely venting my misogyny, racism and Islamophobia on the REAL VICTIMS. Of course they should all be permitted to come home – and bring their jihadi-sired offspring with them!
I mean, why should a few binful’s of severed heads get in the way of a beautiful, diverse, multicultural future?
Looking forward to seeing your name crop up in the cinematic award nominations. I’d wish you luck, but I’m sure you won’t need it!
lol
Crusades Were Right says
“Hm, how should I present myself for my photo-shoot? I want to show my Islamic identity, but without appearing unsympathetic or dangerous. No face-obscuring veil or Shamima Begum style black burka for me! I know – hijab, pink cardie and blue jeans – or as near to blue jeans as circumstances will allow. And of course: my best side and a winsome, wholesome smile. Perfect!
Cheese!”
tim gallagher says
Well said, Crusades Were Right. This woman is definitely trying to present a nice, cuddly image to the world in order to fool the gullible. I believe that these creatures knew what atrocities ISIS was committing and anyone who went off to join ISIS has to be a very evil person. Now, as you say, she is putting on this lying, bullshit image to fool people.
Crusades Were Right says
“Emotional jihad”. Is that a thing? lol
“Al taqiyya for a ride, kafirs!”
tim gallagher says
That’s an accurate description, Crusades Were Right. That’s what it is. A new type of jihad. I can feel it just tugging away at my heart strings. It is sickening when you think of the atrocious evil that ISIS and its sadistic scum were carrying out and how evil people who rushed off to join in with all that evil, such as this woman, must be, and the bullshit, soft image they are now trying to fool us with. All I can say is that I hope scum like this don’t get back to any civilised, western country
Crusades Were Right says
[Briton Shamima Begum]
If Ms Begum is a “Briton”…
…then was the jihadist who decapitated Monsieur Paty a “Gaul”?
Andrew Blackadder says
The teachings of islam is more about pure hate for us Westerners,than what we have against them, after all, we in the West welcomed them in, not me personally but you understand what I mean, and islam does not, in any sense, whatsoever, teach compassion, tolerance and understanding,so for this woman to make a movie and tell us that we are the ones who should put hate behind us is like the Pot calling on the Pan to stop calling it black.
islam teaches revenge and this is one of the many things those in the West do not understand, especially those that think islam is just like every other religion, when in fact it is the ONLY religion that openly tells its followers to kill those who dont want to join islam, that is why I call this “faith” a Fascist Religious Cult.
Fascist… You are not allowed to speak against it.
Religious… They speak about God… a lot.
Cult… You will be killed if you want to leave it, or change your mind about what God is, or isnt…
So tolerant, compassionate and understanding… Yeah right…
So, if I tell a muslim fellow that I think his religion is very violent, and he then turns around and attacks me very violently for saying this then I have to ask…. Is he being a good muslims for doing so?>
IanB says
They cannot be allowed back because they will not leave their hatred (of infidels) behind.
They burned the bridges so must stay and enjoy their failed calipHATE.
Check Burry says
Babes, stay where you are, where you are amongst similar minder murderers.
Ivan says
Make a film about the Yazidy slaves and show the films side by side
Ivan
Giacomo Latta says
”The only way out for all of us is to leave hatred behind and start over with compassion, forgiveness and understanding”
How about them (terrorists) first? Let’s give them a quick test to see if they have any. First question, ”so what do you think of Jews?” That should get the old fires burning.
Shelly says
They knew what murderers and terrorists that they where joining. They knew exactly what they where doing when they joined they are every bit as quilts as the men. There where woman from the west who happily lured other women to their terrorists cause and happily bred little terrorists to help the cause and fill the ranks. They knew what they where joining every one did. The knew all the atrocities that their merry little band where committing it was every where on TV in the papers all over the internet. no one can say they didn’t know what they where getting into. Now they are lying through their teeth to come home with their isis brats to do t God knows what. Let them rot where they are. Bring the victims the women these barbarians captured here if they want to come. But leave these isis scum brides where they are
OLD GUY says
We don’t need these women back in our country or any of the Islamic/Muslim migrant invasion that Biden has opened our borders too. These people are not going to improve the lives of our citizens they destroy our neighborhoods and become a burden on our tax payers who have to support them. Diversity is not worth the cost to the average citizens.