“And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion” (Qur’an 2:120)
What does that say about the prospects for “interfaith dialogue”?
More comments below.
“Malaysia: ‘Christians Are Enemies of Islam,’” by Jules Gomes, Church Militant, May 5, 2021:
SELANGOR, Malaysia (ChurchMilitant.com) – A malicious book accusing Christians of a grand conspiracy to undermine Islam has gone viral in Malaysia, even as fresh allegations are being brought against Kuala Lumpur’s archbishop for spewing anti-Muslim propaganda.
The Islamic book, Pendedahan Agenda Kristian (Exposing the Christian Agenda), labels the “Nasrani” (Christians) as “enemies of Islam who are always malicious and display a negative attitude towards Muslims,” and who “will try their best to cause heartache among Muslims.”
Church Militant obtained a copy of the 130-page book from the official portal of the Selangor Islamic Religious Council (SIRC), which has a gov.my internet address — linking it to the government of Malaysia.
First published in hardback in 2014 and now made available in digital format in the Malay language, the publication accuses Catholics and evangelicals of adopting missionary schools and “contextualization” as a conversion strategy, especially by using the term “Allah” in the Malay-language Bible.
Ironically, the accusations come in the light of Pope Francis’ categorical rejection of efforts to convert people of other religions and in the wake of the pontiff’s Abu Dhabi Catholic-Muslim concordat with Sunni Grand Imam of al-Azhar Ahmed al-Tayyeb in 2019.
Unlike evangelicals, who use “contextualization” to evangelize and convert, liberal Catholics have adopted “contextualization” not with a view to bring lost souls to Catholicism, but as a vehicle of an “incarnational lifestyle” aimed at the creation of “indigenous” churches.
Speaking to Church Militant, renowned Islamic scholar Robert Spencer explained how “the hostility the Muslim book mandates is clearly Qur’an-based.”
Spencer, author of over 21 books on Islam and the Middle East, commented:
The book says this: “Christians will try their best to create resentment among the Muslims. Muslims must be stern and careful of Christians, and we must not follow or regard them as our protectors, leaders or guardians. If we are oblivious or doubtful of the truth about Islam, then it will be easier to be influenced by the lies of the Christians.”
In saying this, it is no outlier and is not “extremist.” The Qur’an says: “And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion” (2:120). It also tells Muslims, “O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you — then indeed, he is of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people” (5:51).
Spencer noted that this is why Christians were facing “increasing discrimination and harassment” as “Malaysia, like other areas in the Islamic world, becomes more devout and Sharia-adherent.”
“It also gives the lie to Pope Francis’ fond hopes that his ‘interfaith dialogue’ will lead to harmony and peace between Muslims and Christians,” Spencer said, noting the failure of the Abu Dhabi document. “For many Muslims, if not most, no ‘dialogue’ will ever override or cancel Qur’anic imperatives.”…
mortimer says
This is the first and second stage of genocide (and it is coming from the GOVERNMENT), namely,
Stage 1) us-versus them classification (Nasrani as the enemy ‘other’) 2) labelling (“enemies of Islam who are always malicious … who will do their best to cause heartache”)
Most people cannot identify genocide, because they do not recognize the TEN STAGES of genocide, namely: 1)us-versus-them classification, 2)labelling, 3)discrimination, 4)dehumanization, 5)organization, 6)polarization, 7)preparation, 8)persecution, 9)extermination, 10)denial.
The Malaysian government is actually laying the groundwork of genocide.
gravenimage says
And non-Muslims in Malaysia are already legally discriminated against.
PRCS says
Not just some Muslim “extremist”, or jihadist gang, but the government.
Now, are we providing any foreign aid to that government? And, if so, why?
PRCS says
Oh, I just looked it up.
Of course, we are.
https://www.foreignassistance.gov/explore/country/Malaysia
gravenimage says
Thanks for that grim link, PRCS.
born saturday says
but worshiping satan as a worldwide religion is not malicious for nobody…. the followers of satan will live the hell that their religion leads to in this world first…its not going to be long since the civil wars will lead them all to closed camps from where they will only see their freedom again when they are deported back to hell of satan worshiping nations they come from…..in the west… however i also doupt that those satan worshiping nations will be left to roam free in the future….
PRCS says
Satan worshiping nations?
Enlighten me, please, by naming a few of these “Satan worshipping nations”.
gravenimage says
Islam actually is pretty evil.
PRCS says
Evil, yes.
Factually, so.
JCA Reid says
Malaysian Government quite correct! Muslims are Malicious!!
tim gallagher says
It must be a misprint. It should have read, “Muslims are always malicious”. There now it’s fixed. Add that Muslims are far too often murderously violent, are gang rapists, are pedophiles with their child brides, are perpetrators of barbaric honour killings, stoning people to death etc, etc. Now there’s the truth about Islam and Muslims.
mortimer says
Yes, the ‘malicious hatred’ (directed by Muslims against the non-Muslim KUFAAR) that you refer to is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
In other words, the writer of “Pendedahan Agenda Kristian” is PSYCHOLIGICALLY PROJECTING his own Islamic teaching upon Christians.
Leading Islamic scholars command Muslims to hate the kufaar as their religious duty:
-Imam Abdul-Latif ibn Abdur-Rahman Rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed (Islamic faith) and act upon it, and yet not be HOSTILE against the mushrikeen (i.e. wrong worshippers). So anyone who isn’t HOSTILE against the mushrikeen, then it cannot be said that he acts upon Tawheed nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]
– “The Muslim should regard the Kuffaar as ENEMIES and HATE them because of their kufr (wrong belief), just as he hates their kufr (disbelief) itself.” – from Umar Sulayman ‘Abd-Allaah al-Ashqar, “Belief in Allah”
-“The doctrine of al Walaa wal Baraa is the REAL IMAGE for the actual practice of this faith.” – source “Al Walaa wal Baraa According to the Aqeedah of the Salaf”, by Sheikh Muhammad Saeed al Qatani, authoritative Saudi Sharia lawyer and imam at the Abu Bakr and Al Furqan Mosques in Mecca.
-Shaykh Ahmad ibn ‘Atiq said: “There isn’t in the Book of Allah the Exalted – after the issue concerning the obligation of tawheed and the forbiddance of its opposite (kufr=wrong belief)- any issue which has as so many proofs, nor so clearly explained, than the issue of al-walaa’ and al-baraa’.” (W-B is ‘Islamic apartheid’)
– Dr. Muhammad Saeed Al-Qahtaani said: “Thus, it is clear that Al-Wala’ Wal-Bara calls on Muslims to “love” their fellow Muslims and HATE the non-Muslim (or Kafir).”
– from Sufi scholar Ahmad Sirhindi (1564-1624): “The honour of Islam lies in INSULTING kufr and kafirs. One who respects the kafirs dishonours the Muslims… The real purpose of levying jiziya on them is to HUMILIATE them to such an extent that they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur. They should constantly remain TERRIFIED and TREMBLING. It is intended to hold them under CONTEMPT and to uphold the honour and might of Islam.”
– from ibn Taymiyya, “Book of Emaan”: “… true believers show ANIMOSITY and HATRED towards disbelievers and NEVER support them.”
– K. 28:86 says: “Lend not thou support in any way to those who reject Allah’s Message.”
– In the matter of relations with kafirs, a Muslim should “…act like you are his friend. THEN KILL HIM.” – Sheikh Muburak Gilani
gravenimage says
+1
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the information, mortimer. Islam definitely does seem to have what I would call an obsessive hatred for the non-believers. When I tried to read the Koran, mainly I wanted to check on whether those quotes from the Koran which call for Muslims to go out and kill non-Muslims were actually there in the Koran, the main impression that I came away with was that the Koran contained an absolutely obsessive hatred for all non-believers. It is a vicious, evil book, full of hatred. As someone who was brought up a Christian, I know that Christianity doesn’t inculcate this hatred towards non-Christians. Given that Muslims are brought up to hate, when I do come across people who are Muslims, and who seem to be quite pleasant people, though I have to say I do not know them at all well, I consider it to be almost a miracle that the Muslim upbringing hasn’t poisoned their minds. In relation to this report, yes, I’d say that Islam is definitely malicious. mortimer, I have to say that you have an absolutely unbelievable level of knowledge when it comes to Islam, a scholar’s level of knowledge. It is a great achievement to have attained such a level of knowledge.
frank says
https://sites.google.com/view/godanddemocrarcy/home only judeo christian values and heritage can guarantee democracy and democratic institutions in the west anything less will lead to the demise of freedom and the rise of nihilism and dictatorship
gravenimage says
Malaysia: Government agency publishes book saying Christians are ‘enemies of Islam who are always malicious’
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Ugly, ugly stuff. They are only deemed enemies because they haven’t converted to Islam.
JOEYN says
Many Malaysians say that there is racism in Malaysia since Malays (who are the majority race) are given all kinds of special economic privileges under the New Economic Policy (i.e. Malaysia’s Affirmative Action). Moreover they say that the reason that Malaysia is economically backward is because the Malays are lazy.
The fact of the matter is only in Malaysia a Chinese or an Indian person can easily change his race to a Malay. All the person has to do to be recognized as a Malay is speak the Malay language (which most Chinese and Indians already do), practice the Malay culture (which again is not difficult to do), and of course convert to a Muslim (which is the easiest of the three to do if you are stupid or desperate enough to be willing to do it).
Thus clearly the severe and blatant discrimination in Malaysia is not based on race but based on religion. The whole idea is to economically deprive as many non-Muslims as possible so that the only way they are able to survive is by converting to Islam. In fact many non-Muslims have converted to the evil Islamic religion for economic reasons.
Yet the Malaysian government allows one of its agencies to publish a book that is dishonestly accusing Christians of maliciously trying to convert Muslims to Christians.
By the way even though most Christians in Malaysia do not proselytize / evangelize to Muslims since it is unlawful in Malaysia I do not think there is anything wrong for a person to proselytize / evangelize (provided there is no coercion or manipulation involved) to one of another faith. Only those who are very insecure and shallow in their religious faith would be threatened by someone proselytizing / evangelizing.to those of his/her faith.
gravenimage says
Yes–all Malays are considered to be Muslim. This is why a native Malay trying to leave Islam find this nearly impossibel. Look at the case of Lena Joy, a Malay convert to Christianity.
Joeyn says
Exactly. The Lena Joy case clearly shows who is actually malicious.
Andrew Blackadder says
I wonder if you are indeed Malaysian, perhaps Christian or Buddhist Chinese, am I correct?.
My email is, abw48@yahoo.com
Mohini says
A slap on the face of everyone who whines,”There are Muslim majority countries that are secular.”
Andrew Blackadder says
I used to live in Malaysia, Penang, and as a Brit I started to notice the power shift towards the Bumiputra more and more each year, I remember a new building being built in the Fetes Park Area, near Island Plaza, on Mount Erskine Road, where the Sales sign states, Homes for Rent or Sale for BUMIPUTRA ONLY, as they are the Malay muslims in Malaysia that have special privileges, Malaysia being the only country I know that has Affirmative Action Programs for the majority.
If there were no Chinese, and Indians, in Malaysia, then the country would be as poor as Indonesia, however if the Prime Minister, and the Government in general, were Chinese, then Malaysia would be richer than Singapore.
I left Malaysia years ago though I still reside in SE Asia, as Im a man who believes in the Dharma, living in a Buddhist country, surrounded by much better people.
Ive known, and still know today, Western men who married Bumi females, and Western females married to Bumi men, and of course they must convert to islam if they wish to get PR in Malaysia, Permanent Residence, otherwise even then they get a run around from Immigration for decades.
Malaysia is an apartheid and racist country, can somebody please pass this information over the BDS gang in the USA.
OLD GUY says
And just think Biden wants to bring these muslim/islamic hate America migrants to our neighborhoods. All you have to do is look at what has happened in Europe with the muslim migration invasion. I have yet to hear from the citizens standpoint of anything good that has come from the Muslim/islamic migrants in Germany, France or the UK. I’ve heard allot of bad things, rape gangs, no go zones, murders, violence and a burden on the tax payers to support them.
Diversity my ass.
So why are we inviting this mess to our country?
Chris says
They want us to cry for a One World Government. That is why they fill our countries with savage islamists.
gregbeetham says
Being nice and accommodating and making concessions to Muslims hasn’t worked for the last thousand years so why keep doing it?