The “most vile of created beings,” as the Qur’an calls non-Muslims (98:6), should not be so insolent. They should know that it is their duty to submit humbly to Islamic hegemony (cf. Qur’an 9:29).
“How Turks react to the Greek flag near Hagia Sophia? (video),” Proto Thema, May 13, 2021 (thanks to Elizabeth):
The website defence-point posted an interesting video of a Turkish “social experiment” that was conducted in order to determine the reaction to the sight of the Greek flag. What is recorded is impressive. The protagonist himself states that this is a dangerous attempt….
However, it is interesting how the request to help him take a photo of Hagia Sofia holding a Greek flag irritated the reflexes of the Turks.
Boycott Turkey says
They are angry as they know Agia Sophia belongs to Greeks and they are thieves they don’t like reminding they are invaders and thieves from Central Asia Agia Sophia is not Turks History only history Turkey has is a criminal record of theft Genocide and rape.
mortimer says
BT, you confuse ownership and nation states. Hagia Sophia is not the property of the state of modern ‘Greece’ and was never the property of any country called ‘Greece’. A country called ‘Greece’ never existed until 1830 nor did it ever exist in the past at any time as a unified country. Hagia Sophia was built by the Roman Empire and operated by the Orthodox Church as its headquarters. ‘Greece’ was Yunanistan or Rumelia to the Ottomans. The church should be left as a museum until the Turks have returned to secularism. The art treasures of the building should be preserved.
Boycott Turkey says
Mortimer I disagree Agia Sophia was built by Justinian I he was Roman and his wife Theodora was Greek Cypriot the Byzantium empire was Greek and Roman so Greeks did build Agia Sophia as well as Romans Greeks did exist so what if Greece hadn’t been named yet Agia Sophia should be a Church it’s insulting for Christians for it to be a mesuem and even worse a mosque so what if Greece hadn’t existed there where more Greeks in the Byzantium empire then Greece today
Infidel says
Mortimer, the Byzantine empire was culturally more Greek than Roman, and that was borne out by its lingustic tendencies of Greek being their official language. And they were also the center of the Eastern Orthodox Church, which belonged more to Greece than to Turkey. Heck, all of Anatolia was actually Greek land before the Seljuqs invaded
gravenimage says
Mortimer, modern Greece is definitely the heir to Grecian civilization–including the Greek Orthodox Church.
Phaulkon says
Then there are these:
2 Corinthians 1:1
Paul, an Apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God–and our brother Timothy: To the Church of God in Corinth, with all God’s people throughout Greece.
Acts 18:12
But when Gallio became Proconsul of Greece, the Jews with one accord made a dead set at Paul, and brought him before the court.
1 Thessalonians 1:7
so that you became a pattern to all the believers throughout Macedonia and Greece.
and something different:
Here lyeth ye body of Ferdinando Paleolocus, descended from ye Imperial lyne of ye last Christian Emperors of Greece
Churchwarden of this parish 1655 1656
Vestryman twentye years
Died October 3 1678[
Saint Johns Parish Church Cemetery
Saint John, Barbados
SAFI says
Yes “Greece”(Hellas) had existed as a word at least since the time of Herodotus (long before Paul’s Epistles and the NT were written) but I do also get Mortimer’s point of Hagia Sophia being built long before an internationally recognized entity called the Hellenic Republic or the Kingdom of Greece came into existence.
Nevertheless the Hagia Sophia functioned as a greek Church for most of its existence and the architects who designed it were both Greeks from western Anatolia even if Junstinian was a Roman from Dalmatia(modern Croatia)
Mauricio says
Good post! Thanks.
CogitoErgoSum says
That cross on the Greek flag also drives them into a frenzy.
born saturday says
but ofcourse in greece, turkish and muslims from allover islam are hugged petted funded protected and given impunity… such are the turkalbanians who the united states went to war with yougoslavia for, and two years later they were all celebrating 9/11…. this is why the leftists, globalists are leading us directly to complete islamisation in the west…. in the west the young boys more or less learn they have to be girls, and in islam their are taught to hate the westerner infidels and wage various sorts of jihad against them….
Hank says
“in the west the young boys more or less learn they have to be girls”
There are groups who are forcing their agenda through legislation and even through school children’s books so much so that young children are confused and question if they are boy, girl, bi, trans, queer, bird, you name it. “He” or “she” is soon going out the window and replaced by an “It”.
Vacuums do not last long and are quickly filled up. Creating moral vacuums in society don’t last long either and quickly fill up. In this case throwing out Judaeo-Christian heritage creates a vacuum that is now quickly being filled up by Islam.
CogitoErgoSum says
I believe “he” and “she” has been replaced by “they” as in “Demi is a singer and they is now going to sing a song for us.”
gravenimage says
Islam is no moral replacement for Judeo-Christian heritage.
CogitoErgoSum says
I find it interesting also that a woman in Turkey would feel free to push and slap a man in public when he had not so much as touched her. I call that assault and battery; however, if the man had even grabbed her hand she probably would have started screaming as if she were being raped and the police would have hauled him away to jail. I hope those space aliens share their technology with us so I can leave this planet before it completely drives me crazy.
gravenimage says
I think she considered this assault OK because he was being “un-Islamic”, so he was fair game. I’m sure she understood that he was not going to attack her, even in defense.
Chrissie01 says
Deranged, isn’t it? You steal an architectural monument from another nation (including blueprint), you copy it hundreds of times (due to your own barren creativity), and then at the sight of the identity of the creators, you flip.
That is only possible when having originated from a pigsty to begin with.
SAFI says
Yep. And you should see their mad hatred for Armenians. You would the Armenians are the ones who genocided the Ottomans. I’ve witnessed it first hand and it’s downright bizarre.
SAFI says
You would *think*. I accidentally omitted a word
Crusades Were Right says
Something for Westerners to ponder…
If Constantinople (formerly the Greek-speaking capital of the Christian Byzantine Empire) can be a part of Mohammedan “Turkey”, why can’t:
* Athens
* Berlin
* Amsterdam
* London
* Paris
* New York
etc, etc?
Infidel says
Absolutely! And they all believe that all these places belong to islam: they just need to be conquered
gravenimage says
That’s the Muslim plan.
GreekEmpress says
Graven Image,
Many thanks!
GE
gravenimage says
🙂
gravenimage says
Video: Man holds Greek flag near Hagia Sophia, Turks react with rage and violence
……………….
These Muslims reacted with aggression, rage, and even physical assault.
I’m sure if you tried the same thing in Greece with a Turkish flag that this would not be the case–even with people who are no fans of Turkey.
SAFI says
Yeah that guy sure got some balls on him to pull off this experiment. I’m not sure I would have been this brave even with the camera operator recording everything and prepared to intervene. Knowing how full of hate(especially towards Greeks and Armenians) and prone to violence Turks are this could have ended much worse.
Dario says
Berlin, Londonistan, and Amsterdam are already.
revereridesagain says
We’re all getting a lesson in what life in that area must have been like before the Ottoman Empire finally met its well-deserved demise!
Andrew Blackadder says
muslims are taught hate, and believe in revenge against others not of that belief system.
Christians are taught love others as you wish to be loved and tolerate everybody.
Buddhist are taught everybody has a mind and a belief system, practice compassion.
Jews are taught that life is speculation and that everything is temporary.
Hindus are taught this life is merely one in many,make of it what you can, in order to make a better life next time around.
Which “religion”” practices hate?.
Its not a trick question…
Phaulkon says
long but interesting…
Last orthodox service in Hagia Sophia 19 January 1919
Papa Lefteris Noufrakis from Alones in Rethymno, who served as a military chaplain in the second Greek Division, one of the two Divisions that participated in the early 1919 “allied” expeditionary force in Ukraine. This Division, on the way to Ukraine, briefly stopped in Constantinople, the City of the dreams of the Greek people, which was then under “allied domination” following the end of World War I.
A group of Greek officers, led by the brave Cretan, together with the Brigadier Frantzis, Major Liaromatis, Captain Stamatios and Lieutenant Nicholas gazed at the City and Hagia Sophia from the ship, hiding deep in their hearts their great secret, their great decision which they made the previous night, after the proposal and strong insistence of the lion-hearted Cretan Papa Lefteris Noufrakis. They were to disembark in the City and liturgize in Hagia Sophia!
All of them were skeptical when they heard Papa Lefteris propose this great enterprise. They knew that things were very difficult. Hagia Sophia was still a mosque, and surely some guards would be there, while others would be going to pray, and it wasn’t difficult for it to be filled from one moment to another. And then there were their superiors, who would not be in favor of such an action, and it would cause a storm among the “allies” for such a “provocation”. It would perhaps even create a diplomatic episode that would embarrass the Greek government and Prime Minister Eleftherios Venizelos. But Papa Lefteris had made his decision, and he was decisive and assertive.
“If all of you don’t come, I will go by myself! I only want one chanter. You, Constantine (Liaromatis), will you be my chanter?”
“All right, dear Father,” the Major replied, who also took the same stance, and everything was in order.
Eventually, all of them went.
The ship carrying the Division anchored in the open sea, so they boarded a boat and a Romios took them to the City, and they soon landed at the waterfront. Kosmas, the native boatman, tied the boat and led them along the shortest path to Hagia Sophia. The door was open as if it was waiting for them. The Turkish guard went to say something in his own language, but a fierce and decisive look by Brigadier Frantzis put him in his place and left him speechless. All entered with reverence and made the sign of the cross. Papa Lefteris whispered with great emotion: “I will enter into Your house, and I will venerate towards Your Holy Temple with fear….”
Progressing quickly and without procrastinating, he identified the location of the Sanctuary and the Holy Altar. Finding a small table, he put it in place, he opened his bag, and took out everything needed for the Divine Liturgy. Then he put on his stole and began:
“Blessed is the Kingdom of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, now and forever, and unto the ages of ages.”
“Amen,” responded Major Liaromatis, and the Divine Liturgy at Hagia Sophia began.
“I hope God makes us worthy to complete this,” everyone thought, crossing themselves with devotion. The officers seemed to have been at a loss, everything happened so suddenly and it was unbelievable.
The Divine Liturgy proceeded as normal. After 466 entire years Hagia Sophia was liturgizing again! Papa Lefteris continued. Everything was done with sacred propriety, according to the rubrics of the Church. One could hear the “peace be with all,” the “Lord have mercy,” the “O Only-begotten Son and Word of God,” which was written by Justinian himself, who ordered and cared for the building of Hagia Sophia. The Small Entrance followed, then the “To you the Champion Leader,” the Epistle was read by Brigadier Frantzis and the Gospel Reading was done by Papa Lefteris. The duties of the sacristan were performed by Lieutenant Nicholas.
Meanwhile Hagia Sophia began to be filled with Turks. Papa Noufrakis was not daunted and continued. Others looked bemused at this fearless priest and the Turks, who until that moment were observing with silence, could not believe their eyes, because that which was taking place at that moment was truly unbelievable.
The Gospel was followed by the Cherubic Hymn by Major Liaromatis, while Papa Lefteris placed the antimension on the table, to do the Proskomidi. The Turks continued to multiply. As time passed it was tough, but also unforgettable and epic. Papa Noufrakis continued. He takes a small Holy Chalice out of his bag, a paten, a knife and a small prosphoron with a small bottle of wine. With sacred emotion and devotion he does the Proskomidi, while Liaromatis continued chanting the Cherubic Hymn. When the Proskomidi was completed, he turned to Lieutenant Nicholas and told him to light a candle so he could follow him during the Great Entrance. The young Lieutenant went ahead and lit the candle, behind him was the priest crying out: “May the Lord God remember all of us….”
Then the Supplications and the Creed followed, which was said by Frantzis. Meanwhile Hagia Sophia was full of Turks and among them were many Greeks from the City, who happened to be there at the moment the Divine Liturgy was being celebrated, and they followed along with emotion, without daring to externalize their feelings “for fear of the Jews,” that is, the Turks. Only at certain times they could not restrain their tears flowing from their eyes and not betray their care, wiping them away before they became a “fiery” river which they could not hold back.
The Liturgy meanwhile reached its most sacred point – the Anaphora. With an emotional voice Papa Lefteris said: “Your own of Your own, we offer to You, for all and through all.” All the officers knelt and the voice of Major Liaromatis could be heard chanting: “We sing to You, we bless You, we thank You, Lord, and we pray to You, our God.” After a short while the bloodless sacrifice of our Lord was completed in Hagia Sophia, after 466 entire years! This was followed by the “Axion Estin,” the “Our Father,” and the “With the fear of God, faith and love draw near,” and all the officers approached to commune from the Immaculate Mysteries. Papa Lefteris quickly said the prayers while Liaromatis chanted: “Blessed be the Name of the Lord…,” while the rest of the Holy Communion was consumed. Speaking to Lieutenant Nicholas, he said: “Gather everything quickly and put it in the bag,” then he did the Dismissal!
The Divine Liturgy in Hagia Sophia was completed. It was the dream of dozens of generations of Greeks, and it had become a reality. Papa Noufrakis and the four officers were ready to leave and return to the ship. Hagia Sophia however was full of Turks, who began to become enraged and aggressive when they realized what happened. The Greeks were in immediate danger. But they did not hesitate, and approached each other, becoming as “one body,” and they proceeded towards the exit.
The Turks were ready to attack them, when a Turkish official presented himself with others following him, saying: “Let them pass.” He said it with hatred. He wanted to paint his hands with their blood, but at that moment this is how things had to be, and it was not in the interest of their country nor necessary to kill five Roman officers in Hagia Sophia.
Do not forget that around the City were two embattled Greek Divisions and that Constantinople was essentially under the dominance of the victors of World War I, and this of course did not include the Turks.
On hearing this the Turks retreated. Papa Noufrakis and the other officers exited Hagia Sophia and headed for the waterfront, where a boat waited for them.
A husky Turk followed them, and lifting a piece of wood he rushed to hit Papa Noufrakis. He sensed that this priest was the instigator, the creator of this event. The heroic priest bent to avoid being hit, but the Turk managed to hit him on the shoulder. His body bent from the unbearable pain, but he gathered his strength, got up, and continued on his way. Meanwhile Major Liaromatis and Captain Stamatios disarmed the Turk, who was ready to give his most powerful and probably final blow to the priest.
Finally, they approach the boat. They all enter. Kosmas gathered all the ropes and begins to quickly row. Soon they boarded the Greek warship safe and victorious. Of course there followed a diplomatic incident, and the “allies” strongly protested to Prime Minister Eleftherios Venizelos, who was forced to reprimand Papa Lefteris Noufrakis. But secretly he contacted him and “praised and congratulated the patriot priest, who even for a short time brought Hagia Sophia to life, the most sacred dream of our Nation.”
SAFI says
Fascinating story! Do you have any sources for further reading? The balls on that priest! MY GOD! Truly inspiring! I hope there are streets in Greece named after that Priest !
Del says
Classic Muslim culture of aggression and violence. If that Muslima had slapped me she would have been unconscious on the street. No wonder intelligent people feel the way they do about Muslims and Islam.
The Muslima was showing bare arms and skin. She offends Alla and must be raped and put in her place. She has no right to criticize a male.
gregbeetham says
Christianity should never have taken a backward step from the Moon worshippers who follow the teachings of Satan. All Christian heritage should be reclaimed from the cult of Satan and its followers exiled on pain of death.
maryalafouzo says
Thank you to all those comments in support of Ayia Sofia and Greece. They were most appreciated. BTW to Mortimer: I lived 29 years in Egypt and Yunan in Arabic meant Greece.
Mary Alafouzo says
PS. to Mortimer: Besides all the states from Athens to Sparta to Corinth etc. considered themselves Greek. They spoke the same language and believed in the same Gods. They fought the Trojan war together and repulsed two Persian invasions together which saved Greece – the second being that which King Leonidas of Sparta died with his 300 Spartans and many other Greeks from other parts of Greece who were told by Leonidas to go home when he knew the battle was lost but the 300 Spartans couldn’t leave unless their king left so they all died together to which the whole of Greece is indebted forever. The Persians destroyed everything on their way to Athens and razed the Acropolis to the ground but lost to the Greek navy at Salamis – an alliance of Greek city-states under Themistocles in 480BC – and went back home to Persia. It took many many years before the Greeks decided to rebuild the Parthenon. As for Ayia Sofia it has been a Greek Orthodox Cathedral for about 1000 years, built by two Greeks, and Erdogan did what he did out of spite and hatred. Go read your history not the pc one which is dished out nowadays in schools and universities but the real one. With thanks again to all those who defended Greece.