Reuters reported:
A man accused of killing four members of a Canadian Muslim family by running them over in his pickup truck, targeted them in an attack motivated by hate, police said on Monday.
Police in London, Ontario, citing witnesses, said that 20-year-old Nathaniel Veltman, jumped the curb in his vehicle on Sunday, struck five members of the family, ranging in age from 9 to 74, and then drove off at high speed.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said: “This was a terrorist attack, motivated by hatred, in the heart of one of our communities.”
Jihad Watch initially had no intention of covering this story, as this site covers jihad activity, and while this story is one of human tragedy and horror, it is not one of jihad, Islamic supremacism, or Islamization. Or so we initially thought. But given the political agenda that is being pushed using this horrific incident, it had to be addressed.
Canada mourns. This is a case that bypasses politics. Or it should be. A family of three generations was run over and killed while on a leisurely walk; it could have been any of our families, and any humane person should be horrified, regardless of religion. But now, there is tragedy on top of tragedy. The second tragedy is that certain politicians have undermined the human component of this story in order to use it to play a dangerous political game.
“This was an act of mass murder, perpetrated against Muslims,” said Ed Holder, the Conservative mayor of London, Ontario, echoing many others. An observer from a foreign country could reasonably conclude that in Canada, Muslims constantly live in danger of “mass murder.”
Even though police indicated that this was a hate crime, police are not mandated to be judge and jury. Nathaniel Veltman will face the courts. Meanwhile, police often prematurely attribute jihad attacks in Europe and North America to “mental illness.” What gives police the right to conclude intent in any case before they could possibly have had the opportunity to gather and examine all the relevant evidence?
Mayor Holder has in effect turned Nathaniel Veltman’s act into a public indictment with severe implications prior to any due process. In doing so, he himself is guilty of acting from a mentality of mob rule. His panicked language is unfitting for a leader worthy of respect, although such leaders are hard to find these days.
Canada is turning into a country where the rule of law is trampled. This is fueled by the irresponsible political commentary of politicians who are agenda-driven or frightened, and an activist media.
Al Jazeera reported :
Sunday’s attack came amid rising concerns about Islamophobic attacks in provinces across Canada and widespread calls for authorities to tackle racism, hate-motivated violence, and the prevalence of far-right groups.
Reuters published a story Wednesday with this headline: “Canada’s Trudeau vows to fight far-right groups after Muslim family slain.” Trudeau vowed to hunt down and punish “far-right hate groups”:
We’ll continue to fight hate online and offline … (including) taking more action to dismantle far-right hate groups, like we did with the Proud Boys by adding them to Canada’s terror listing.
Yet there is no indication that Nathaniel Veltman was part of any group, or any published evidence of his political persuasion.
Trudeau’s statements, like Holder’s, came before any presentation of evidence in court. (The leader of the Proud Boys, by the way, is a traditionalist Hispanic man, yet the group is often dubbed “white supremacist” for its love of America.)
This is an underhanded attempt to advance the current censorship Bill C-10 that has caused an outcry in Canada.
It is clear that when all is said and done, Conservative politicians and anyone right of center, especially groups that stand against jihad violence and Sharia oppression of women, will be unjustly smeared with responsibility for this attack, no matter what they say or how much they might grieve over this incident. In Canada as in the U.S., there is a concerted attack on conservatism, the Western tradition, the freedom of speech, and even the idea of equality of rights for all, as manifested in societies based on the Judeo-Christian tradition, which is now in retreat everywhere.
Canada and all Western countries need to tackle all forms of genuine bigotry in an appropriate fashion and on a case-by-case basis. That includes the hateful pro-Palestinian rallies that have incited violence against Jews and jihad attacks on innocent people. In the midst of strict lockdowns for everyone else, a scared, politically correct Conservative government in Ontario has turned a blind eye to these massive, inciteful protests. In its silence, Ontario has sent the message that it is acceptable to be hateful toward Jews and the State of Israel.
Putting agenda and politics aside, the leader of the opposition, Erin O’Toole, tweeted out a message that showed some decorum:
We live in a society where people have differences of opinion. That should go without saying, but the voices screaming “diversity” are the loudest to condemn diversity of opinion and thought. Indeed, the word “Islamophobia” has disquieting implications in Canada, where the Liberal government has pushed the agenda of anti-Islamophobia Motion M-103, which would make the Organization of Islamic Cooperation proud. O’Toole plays into the hands of the Left by using this propaganda term; however, his reference to people of “all faiths” being able to live “without fear of violence or persecution” is good, at least in contrast to Trudeau’s one-sided statement.
Expect more dangerous Leftist political agitation to be based upon this tragic incident. It is terrible that this tragedy would be so callously and recklessly exploited for political gain.
“Man suspected of killing Canadian Muslim family was motivated by hate -police,” Reuters, June 8, 2021:
A man accused of killing four members of a Canadian Muslim family by running them over in his pickup truck, targeted them in an attack motivated by hate, police said on Monday.
Police in London, Ontario, citing witnesses, said that 20-year-old Nathaniel Veltman, jumped the curb in his vehicle on Sunday, struck five members of the family, ranging in age from 9 to 74, and then drove off at high speed.
Veltman, a resident of London who was arrested after the incident, has been charged with four counts of first-degree murder and one count of attempted murder. He is due back in court on Thursday after being remanded to custody on Monday.
“There is evidence that this was a planned, premeditated act, motivated by hate,” Detective Superintendent Paul Waight of the London police department told reporters.
“We believe the victims were targeted because of their Islamic faith,” Waight said.
Police in London – 200 km (120 miles) southwest of Toronto – were consulting the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and prosecutors about potentially filing terrorism charges, he said.
The suspect does not have a criminal record, and is not known to be a member of a hate group, police said. He was arrested in a mall parking lot without incident while wearing a body-armor-type vest, police said. There is no evidence he had any accomplices. It was not immediately known if the suspect had hired a lawyer.
Police have not released the victims’ names, but the London Free Press said that among the dead were Syed Afzaal, 46, his wife, Madiha Salman, 44, and their 15-year-old daughter, Yumnah Afzaal. Syed Afzaal’s 74-year-old mother, whose name has not been confirmed, also died. Their 9-year-old son, Faez Afzaal, is in the hospital with serious but non-life-threatening injuries.
The family immigrated from Pakistan about 14 years ago, according to media reports.
Witness Paige Martin told reporters a black truck blasted past her and ran a red light as she was walking, and then she came upon the scene and saw “chaos”: “It was just absolutely like something that you never want to see.”
The attack was the worst against Canadian Muslims since a man gunned down six members of a Quebec City mosque in 2017. London Mayor Ed Holder said it was the worst mass murder his city had ever seen.
“We grieve for the family, three generations of whom are now deceased,” Holder told reporters. “This was an act of mass murder, perpetrated against Muslims, against Londoners, and rooted in unspeakable hatred.”
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Twitter that he was “horrified” by the news, adding that “Islamophobia has no place in any of our communities. This hate is insidious and despicable – and it must stop.”
Ontario Premier Doug Ford said on Twitter that “justice must be served for the horrific act of hatred that took place.”
‘TERRORIST ATTACK’
By late evening on Monday, a steady stream of mourners was seen arriving near the scene of the attack, dropping off flowers and saying prayers. One placard read: “When does it stop? Enough.”
A GoFundMe campaign in support of members of the victims’ family had already raised almost C$120,000 ($99,000) in one hour.
A vigil has been organized at a local mosque on Tuesday night to remember the victims.
“This is a terrorist attack on Canadian soil, and should be treated as such,” said Mustafa Farooq, head of the National Council of Canadian Muslims.
London, which has about 400,000 residents, has a large Muslim community and Holder said Arabic is the second-most-spoken language after English in the city……
gary fouse says
The article is correct. We must condemn the attack because to attack innocent people is wrong. At the same time, we know how this horrible event will be manipulated to fit the narrative. To celebrate this incident only puts us at the level of the jihadists and terrorists.
The humane solution is to stop Islamic immigration to the West and deport whoever shows any sign of being less than a good citizen.
Terry Gain says
Gary Fouse
You can’t deport people “for showing any sign of being less than a good citizen.” – whatever that means. Seriously?
What side are you on? You either believe in the rule of law and reason and basic fairness, or you do not. I detest Islam. It is a false ideology and is the cause of much suffering in the world. But Muslims who come to Canada, or any western country, have all of the same civil rights that every one else enjoys.
gravenimage says
I do think that Jihadists should be deported after they have served their terms.
Lion heart says
the dumb who killed those muslims doesn’t Know that in Islam , Muslims are allowed to get retaliation against Christians oversees which have nothing to do with this crime in London Ontario ! In other words , Muslims would kill the Christians of the middle east when they hear this news as a revenge for those midline families according to Quran 2:178 and as a Canadian Christian guy originally from Iraq , I wanna say that I feel sorry for killing any innocent Muslim but why do g we hear you guys talking about Islamic terrorism on daily basis against the Christians of the Middle East especially of Iraq and Africa based on Islamic core texts & teachings ( Quran 9:29 ) which Islamic jihadi terror groups have been acting upon that particular verse for the last 1400 years ?
Lion heart says
Terry gain : I am a Canadian Christian guy myself originally from Iraq and I also condemn the killing but Muslims when they get majority , their will no longer be innocent people ! especially when they take Islam seriously they will be terrorists and Iraq is the best example where even Muslim neighbours to Christians have turned against the Christians when taking Islam seriously!! Not only that in worked with the U.S. army as a translator and even many Iraqi Arab Muslim translators who worked with the American military have betrayed the Americans by snitching on them to their fellow Muslim terrorists through the texting about the whereabouts of the American military convoys so the terrorists would ambush the American military convoys and kill as many Americans as possible that’s why I told the Americans to never trust Muslims because they would stab them in the back ! and they destroyed all the liquor stores of Christians of Iraq . Whenever Muslims find security breach and power vacuum , they become thugs as I mentioned earlier in Iraq case after the fall of Saddam’s bloody regime.
jack reynolds says
At this point in time it remains possible that this was an accident caused by a Medical Problem.
very old white guy says
As I have said to many ion the past read the koran.
Demsci says
I do agree with Terry Gain about Muslims coming to Western countries must enjoy the same rights as everyone else.
But I also fear such an outcome as Lion Heart describes, when Muslims become majorities or very substantial minorities. When they form no-go-zones.
AND with their unacknowledged but evident alliance with leftists and mainstream media.
But but I am also prepared to qualify this opinion by saying: “of course not all of them, of the Muslims, leftists, mainstream media.
When I try to explain my nuanced thinking I of course risk becoming longwinded. But I do try to hear all sides and all arguments of what for me is about “Islam VERSUS it’s many better alternatives that should replace it, in my Ideal world, for 90 %. of course I first think about full democracy and for me atheism (what these mean for me, but it takes too long to explain this in a fully nuanced way)
I know many of us here do not share my hope, following now; that the anti-Islam-authors and ex Muslim activists that I know and closely follow will succeed in causing a flood of ex Muslims, who hopefully then become Atheists, Christians or members of other religions or “pure nihilists” I don’t care.
Because in that way I for myself can reconcile the points of Terry Gain AND Lionheart while despairing that we in the West can ever stem the flow of Muslim migrants (except that perhaps the Visegrad group of Eastern Europe can).
And let it be clear; I am not against any genetic origine of people, just against this particular ideology we focus on here.
gravenimage says
Good points, Demsci. And good to see you posting again.
Lion heart says
Terry gain : I am a Canadian Christian guy myself originally from Iraq and I also condemn the killing but Muslims when they get majority , their will no longer be innocent people ! especially when they take Islam seriously they will be terrorists and Iraq is the best example where even Muslim neighbours to Christians have turned against the Christians when taking Islam seriously!! Not only that in worked with the U.S. army as a translator and even many Iraqi Arab Muslim translators who worked with the American military have betrayed the Americans by snitching on them to their fellow Muslim terrorists through the texting about the whereabouts of the American military convoys so the terrorists would ambush the American military convoys and kill as many Americans as possible that’s why I told the Americans to never trust Muslims because they would stab them in the back ! and they destroyed all the liquor stores of Christians of Iraq . Whenever Muslims find security breach and power vacuum , they become thugs as I mentioned earlier in Iraq case after the fall of Saddam’s bloody regime.
Rob Porter says
Gary, you are wrong. In Canada, as Christine’s column makes clear, Muslims are afforded greater rights than other groups. Thus, during the recent conflict in the Middle East Muslim were permitted to demonstrate in a manner that ignored Covid-19 regulations. Further, when the Muslim, Faisal Hussain, went on his rampage in the Danforth area of Toronto, shooting 13 and murdering two girls, every gutless authority imaginable refused to acknowledge that his Islamic jihad attack had anything to do with Islam.
In time the authorities decided to say he had mental issues, but from the outset Hussain’s friends denied he had mental problems. The utterly cowardly police chief of Toronto, Mark Saunders said: ‘We will probably never know what led him to do this’. What a cop out! Most of the media was spineless. The whole thing was pathetic. The Sun’s Joe Warmington reported that residents heard Hussain shout out Allahu Akbar, but God forbid that Toronto’s very special gutless wonders would say it was a Muslim attack.
Yogi says
Exactly, they always refuse to say the name or even show the picture of this parasites, just look up Europe/ Germany!!, Merkel&CO let this savages in , millions of them was flowing illegal to the country for all benefits , welfare, every year on Christmas markets and Easter in Germany / Europe is knife attack or car is driving to the market- Berlin 2016 !!they never tell the name or even show the picture of this murder, “ mentaly I’ll” that’s all …it’s despicable how they acting different if this came to Muslims..
Hoi Polloi says
After ignoring weeks of violence from this religion, one, yes vile, movement against them results in a tidal wave. “fight hate online and offline”…… Ramping up to new anti-free speech moves; of course CDW hit that nail on the head.
“taking more action to dismantle far-right hate groups, like we did with the Proud Boys”
Not noting anti-semitism, jihad violence, “honor” killings, imams teaching from their supremacist texts; no, none of that. Where’s the “Oh gosh. We just don’t know. Go away and forget your questions.“ usual official statements that degenerate into claims of mental illness, which as CDW notes are missing. Had to get Proud Boys in there though; can’t miss a swipe at them.
Rob says
https://news.sky.com/story/manchester-terror-attack-inquiry-who-were-the-victims-10890760
and Bataclan and ….
Hoi Polloi says
Such beautiful photos and so saddening to think that their families are now having to go forward with those holes blown open in their lives.
Wellington says
Yes, attacking Muslims in a Western nation simply because they are Muslim is both illegal and unethical. No wiggle room here.
But the massive imbalance that exists between Muslims being harmed (or humiliated in one way or another) because they are Muslim and non-Muslims being harmed (or humiliated in one way or another) because they are not Muslim is so extensive, so obvious, so out of proportion to the detriment of non-Muslims, that not to recognize this double standard—and a rank double standard it surely is—constitutes a phoniness that only fools or worse will not recognize or acknowledge.
Muslims should not be harmed merely because they are Muslim but I would say the same about KKK members, delusional Antifa followers, BLM adherents, anarchists, et al. This will be lost on many, the vast majority of whom could easily be “located” on the left side of the political spectrum.
gravenimage says
Good post, Wellington.
Clifford Fodor says
We should declare total war on Islam. They are at war with us. They want to destroy us or make us all Muslim. They should convert Christianity or be interned until they do.
gravenimage says
Christianity does not teach forced conversion–that would be Islam…
Lion heart says
You are absolutely right and I am a Canadian Christian guy myself originally from Iraq and your media never stopped telling about that attack but they never talk about the daily killing of Christians in Iraq abs Africa !
MURRAY says
“They should convert Christianity or be interned until they do.” Muslims use force, or other sneaky ways, to convert; however, Jesus NEVER would have advocated for the internment of those who didn’t accept Him. We are to treat ALL of our enemies as God’s word commands. “If your enemies are hungry, give them food to eat. If they are thirsty, give them water to drink. You will heap burning coals of shame on their heads, and the LORD will reward you.” There are Jihadists who’ve been won over in this way, and are now Christian preachers. War for war is the way of the Devil. All is in the Lord’s hands. Live by His precepts, as laid out in the Bible, and all will work out in the end.
Raja says
Murray,
All your sermon is fine, I am concerned for the state that is inept while dealing with Islamic terror. Most Western leaders lie about Islam and get away from any scrutiny.
It has been never ending terror and murder of infidels for far too long, despite 9/11
Eleanor says
Absolutely Wellington. When a muslim attacks non-muslims in most European Christian countries, it is “oh dear, he/she must be suffering from mental illness” and ” the motive is unclear and/or unknown”. In this instance, immediately it’s a hate crime, they know exactly what the motive was, and of course, the perpetrator is a far-right extremist. The difference is stark, and if truth be told, it’s this difference that actually causes incidents like this sadly.
OTTER says
In fact this will be used to make Islam and Muslims even more beyond the pale of scrutiny.
Infidel says
Essentially, this attack is the equivalent of New Zealand’s Christchurch mosque shooting
Infidel says
I’ll pass on condemning this, b’cos if the shoe were on the other foot, we’d be getting lectures on why we shouldn’t be islamophobic, blah blah blah
So in this case, I would say that we should not stigmatize far right hate groups, but should analyze the root causes of their grievances, and do what we can to address them. After all, ain’t that how we would do it had the murderer been a jihadist? What’s sauce for the goose is ketchup for the gander
James Lincoln says
Infidel,
If the driver had been a muslim, we would have heard from the police/media:
1. Motive unknown.
2. The driver had a history of mental illness.
3. Etc.
Infidel says
Also, the name of the driver would have been withheld for the first 12 hours, unlike in the case of Nathaniel Veltman, since the goal would have been to blame right wing extremists as long as possible until the muslim name was released. Here, since Veltman is a white, it’s easier to tar him as a white extremist, which is why there was no attempt to withhold his name
James Lincoln says
+1
Hoi Polloi says
There have been some crime reports in my area that have all the markings of protected demographics but long afterward, I am still looking for names.
Raja says
Infidel,
+1
Clearly, as you said there is a pattern to dealing with “hate crimes”, Islamic hatred cannot be found out easily in spite of hard evidences or most obvious ones.
Something sickening about Left and its ally Islam.
commonsense says
If the driver had been a Muslim, the incident might have not even been reported by most media outlets, or, at best, received scant coverage consisting of a few uninformative sentences.
gravenimage says
True, commonsense.
gravenimage says
Infidel, I condemn this if it was deliberate, as I condemn all acts of barbarism.
Terry Gain says
I love going to the source of the problem.
I am old enough to remember when it was considered inappropriate for any high-ranking politician to comment on a criminal case before the trial and verdict.
But that’s just me. I have two sons but neither of them look like Trayvon.
gravenimage says
Good point, Terry.
Hoi Polloi says
It is a good point because we need legally binding warnings, it seems. It’s highly unethical at the least.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Hoi Polloi.
PRCS says
Far Right
Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism, are politics further on the right of the left-right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of being anti-communist, authoritarian, ultranationalist, and having nativist ideologies and tendencies.
Historically used to describe the experiences of fascism and Nazism, today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views.
Far-right politics can lead to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, or genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions.
As Islam’s teachings include each of those attributes…..
commonsense says
Touché!
Hoi Polloi says
Thanks for that. I keep waiting, in vain, for media and politicians to acknowledge this.
PRCS says
Yep.
Islam is not a warm and fuzzy “progressive” ideology.
Infidel says
So Mohammedans have not only taken over the original London in England, but also the fake London in Ontario! Good work
So finally, Sultan Justin Trudeau discovers something that actually outrages him: had this been a muslim doing the same thing to a non-muslim family in Canada, that crime would have been swept under the rug
commonsense says
More than likely, Infidel.
James Lincoln says
Infidel,
Eventually, there will be no more room under the rug…
Infidel says
Yeah, the floor will be pretty elevated and uneven
RANDALL ANDERSON says
Was the driver screaming ‘ALLAHU AKBAR!” as he plowed into the family? Just asking… could he have had an epileptic seizure? Or maybe drunk? What is his background, his online comments, his family history, his mental history, his criminal history? Just asking…
jack reynolds says
Yup … could have been a medical problem and he most definitely was NOT a member of any Right-Wing group.
Infidel says
Or could he have been a muslim of a different sect? Such as an Ahmadiya, who mowed down this Pakistani family to denounce Pakistan for requiring that Ahmadiyas not be recognized as muslim?
Andrew Blackadder says
muslim drives Truck into Christmas Market, cause, mental illness.
Infidel drives a Car into a muslim family, cause pure hate from a Far right madman.
There, I fixed it for ya.
It now appears that those who wish to defend The Western World are just evil racists, and those that come into the The West from islamic shitholes are just people that need help because Saudi Arabia, Kuwait,UAE and all the other meg rich islamic nations dont want them…WTF is wrong with those words?.
The Westerner is being played for a fool, both by muslims around the World and their very own Political Leaders.
Methinnks there will be much ore actions like this guy in London Ontario.
David M says
Yeah but when you go out & kill people, be they Muslim or not, you are just as bad as the evil you are against. This guy lowered himself so he is just as bad as any Muslim jihadi killer, & he deserves to be thrown in jail for life.
born saturday says
as for hate there sure is endless hate but fightin the effects of the hate and not its root cause which is jihad is not going to solve nothing ever…. the lust for islam is the root of all evil when it comes to hate… people see hate and do hate…. turning the blind eye on jihad and giving impunity to it to the level of presenting the muslimes as sacred cows that they are entitled to be will only cause more slaughter….
Hank says
The incident is a tragedy. This could all be avoided if mainstream political parties just did their normal duties of protecting the welfare and security of citizens, protecting borders, repatriation of the illegal Islamic migration jihad, preserving the existing Judeo-Christian culture and values from Islamization, protecting the nation itself from Islamization, etc.
It’s the likes of people like Trudeau who don’t do their normal duties that hand over the baton to all kinds of extremists. Instead Trudeau is busy creating a 5th column in Canada. Now, anything that can fly in Gaza triggers intense chaos, rioting, burning, threats, deaths and public disorder thousands of miles away in unsafe Canadian cities.
Dean says
The police, politicians and media are fueling the flames of hatred by using this horrible incident as a way to go after conservatives.
Even the conservatives among the politicians want to be seen as woke and using all the jargon that separates us rather than drawing us together at such a time.
When police and politicians weigh in on an horrific crime prior to trial, it undermines the trial and prevents truth from emerging. It is a mob rule and lynching mentality as Christine has noted.
We have just lived through some other horrible events in the streets of Canadian cities, with people burning Israeli flags, jihadist gangs looking for and tracking down and beating “Jews,” and all manner of letters supporting known terror groups published by the mainstream media.
The left is inciting violence by supporting such activities with unbalanced and inaccurate information and one-sided published opinion pieces.
There is a complete lack of courage and a desire to put the boots to the public by elites who see opportunity in every tragedy such as the London incident and they side with terrorists as a way to target conservatives and Jewish people as well in this obsessive concern over “hate” which does not exist in reality.
It seems as if the more “hate” that these politicians can convince us exists, the more power they give themselves to take away freedom.
That will not be good for any community and we need to push back on the ignorance and the agenda of people who go along with authoritarianism just to increase their appeal to the left. I grieve for the family mowed down in London but do not get in the way of justice by ranting on and public figures suggesting they know what is inside the head of the alleged murderer for political gain and to put the boots to many others in the community by connecting all of us to hate crime and then proceeding with remedies that will destroy us as a country.
Maya Morrero says
Non-Muslims both Christians, Hindus and Jews are killed everyday, our children are slaughter. Women and little girls are kidnapped, rape or murder not one family but hundreds of families. You never hear about it on the news. The 2019 Eastern bombing in Sri Lanka were two churches, a hotel were the target of Islamic terrorist that kill hundreds of people including children, women, all innocent people in because of suicide bombers. None of our politicians said Christians, they dehumanized them by calling them Easter worshipers. Hypocrites Trudeau, he said very little about the terrorist rapist Muslim gang that raped a 14 year on in Canada a few years back.
Hoi Polloi says
They did exactly that. I thought it was vile, the extent to which they contorted themselves to avoid saying, “Christians at Easter services.” Let alone, “were slaughtered by muslims.”
Giacomo Latta says
”This type of vile and extreme hatred must be condemned. An Islamophobic act of terror like this one has no place in Canada.” – Erin O’Toole.
What a Toole. Use of the word ”Islamophobic” describes your position on Islam. Apparently you figure democracy and Islam can somehow work together or are already the same thing. Where were you when the unarmed guard at the National Cenotaph was murdered by a muslim. Or two young women who were killed by a muslim in Toronto, along with 13 injured. I can find no combination of your name and references to these events. What a useless tool.
”We stand with the Muslim community and reaffirm our commitment to build a country that is free from hatred”
What a Toole. Name any one thing you have done to build a country free from hatred. Read the koran. Then attend a demonstration in support of Israel. No, you won’t because you are too gutless, but if you can order one of your flunkies to attend and document one you will find innocent people getting injured by people you have no problem residing in this country. Go study your koran and tell us all how Islam does not have the subjugation, and thus the existence, of democracy.
As long as you maintain your stance there will continue to be victims of all stripes in dealing with islam. Proud of yourself?
zaheer says
I think it was premature for the Police and politicians to declare this unfortunate accident and deaths of pedestrians as a HATE crime. Were these pedestrians dressed in a specific attire that would identify them as muslims? so that it was easy for the drive to identify them as muslim?
Were there no other pedestrians at the time of the accident that the drive was able to charge into this family, group of people, who got hit. Were they walking together (as if holding hands and blocking the foot path), or were walking single file.
The drive went past red lights…?
Did the driver had a fit of asthma attack, sneeze or some such medical issue that he could not brake, or did his auto’s brake fail?
Until some such facts are ascertained it is foolish for Police and politicians to rush to judgment.
In some other such cases when such an incident had happened and the driver happened to be a muslim, the general declaration by police and others is that the person was a mental case. Why double standards?
Waldman says
As London is relatively small city could it be that 20 yr. old driver and the 18 yr. old female actually knew each other, that they had a bad relationship and this was his reaction –
E T says
Maybe he had a seizure, time and investigation will tell.
The Great divider, fear monger, Irresponsible leader of the New Democratic Party stated:
“Our Canada is a place where you can’t walk down the street if you wear a hijab because you will be killed – – – this is our Canada. We can’t deny it. How many more families will be killed before we do something”?
In contrast
In July of 2018, when Muslim, Faisal Hussain walked down Danforth Avenue in Toronto shooting at groups of people, killing 10 year old Julianne Kozis and 18 year old Reese Fallon and wounding 13 other people, some injured seriously with life changing injuries, who were just out walking on that sunny day in July, Ralph Goodale, the Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness issued a statement saying “Don’t draw any conclusions”.
It was days before Canadians learned of his identity even though 8 months before firemen found Faisal’s brother, Farad, 31, in a house unconscious with 42 kilos of carfentanil and 31 identical, high-end handguns.
The Canadian people are not the problem in Canada, Justine Trudeau, Jagmeet Singh and politicians who keep playing “the plant the seed of hatred games” , are the problem. They do not understand the word shame. They are a disgrace to the country.
gravenimage says
Forty years ago my mother standing on the sidewalk was hit by a bad driver who got startled and hit the gas instead of the brake. A terrible accident, but still just that. As for this case, we’ll see.
gravenimage says
Now it seems this was deliberate.
St. Croix says
Perhaps it was “mental illness” for real.
If it was a Muslim who did it here, as has been the case in Canada in a few notable vehicular Jihad incidents, it would be labelled as such.
Or maybe just an accident. A few years ago a Muslim family died in a house fire. One child of the 8 or 9 kids survived. It was not arson, it was a sad and unfortunate incident.
The reason people assume this is intentional against Muslims is because Muslims doing Jihad do the EXACT thing intentionally! But no one is allowed to mention it because Islam is the sacred cow in our culture. WHY? God knows why. I don’t. Islam deserves the closest scrutiny and surveillance! What other group would be allowed to persist in spreading hate and terror and not be examined? Not be curtailed? Have terrorists welcomed back with open arms and given millions of dollars instead of jail and then deportment?
Raja says
St. Croix,
+1
David says
If muslims are hurt and scared by this killing, them they should begin to know how non-muslims feel after nearly 40,000 Islamic terror attacks. Attacks against muslims? Count them on the fingers of two hands.
David says
I think my comment disappeared.
Infidel says
If it was a child comment of Cultural Muslim, who got banned and posts deleted, then it would have been deleted: that’s what happens to all the responses to any deleted post
gravenimage says
Yep.
David says
Okay. No it didn’t.
marc says
one might have a very different opinion on what happened according to Nate’s middle eastern friend quoted here https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/who-is-nathaniel-veltman-accused-in-alleged-london-hate-killings
gravenimage says
Yes, Marc–I read that disturbing article. So probably *not* some sort of accident.
OLD GUY says
If he was a muslim driver he would of had a mental disorder and it wouldn’t have even been thought to be a hate crime or terrorism. It is a vary sad thing to have happened to any family. If it were a hate crime that’s even worse. However muslims don’t seem to have much of a problem when their islamic jihads slaughter other peoples families. They say what comes around goes around.