Nathanial Veltman shocked his native Canada and the wider world when he killed four members of a Muslim family by running them over with his pickup truck in London, Ontario, on June 6. Veltman’s attack left a fifth person wounded, a nine-year-old boy who is now an orphan. Suspicions have arisen that Veltman targeted his victims because of their Muslim faith, provoking cries in Canada for greater efforts against “Islamophobia.” Yet other evidence indicates that Veltman was psychologically disturbed.
To analyze this horror in the wider context of “Islamophobia” claims, Jihad Watch director Robert Spencer joined Conservative Casual Friday show host Andrew E. Harrod, a Jihad Watch contributor. What evidence suggests that hate motivated Veltman’s savagery? Is anti-Muslim violence the greatest extremist threat in Canada or anywhere else? How do Islamist groups exploit such crimes in order to stifle counter-jihad efforts? Spencer will discuss these and other issues.
libertyORdeath says
I would caution others to not take the leftist view of passing judgment without evidence. If this is true though, it is despicable. You are not a part of the true counter-jihad if you employ the same terrorist tactics as jihadists, ESPECIALLY if you target innocent civilians.
Having said that, we have seen the rush to judgement far too often (remember the “Asian hate crime” that was really about sex addiction?) This person should and will be judged by those who hear the evidence. This is not the way to stop the hijrah or terrorism.
libertyORdeath says
Sorry…
In fact, you are doing more harm with an act like this to the counter-jihad than you are to terrorism or any other grievances. Let’s hope this isn’t the case.
Bikinis not Burkas says
Could this be payback?
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/22/world/americas/canadian-soldier-run-down-in-what-officials-call-act-of-terror-dies.html
gravenimage says
Bikinis not Burkas, Muslims murder Infidels in Jihad terror attacks all the time. The idea that they are “payback” is just not borne out.
Besides, this terrible story is from 2014. How is a Jihad terror attack from seven years ago “payback” for something that happened in 2021? Are Jihadists somehow psychic?
BlackSabbath says
Algonquian people who live in Canada claim that windigos enter people and drive them to insanity and make them do horrible crimes, totally out of the blue. For example, on 30 Jul 2008, Tim McLean, a 22-year old Canadian was murdered in a Greyhound bus in Winnipeg, Manitoba by a Chinese/Canadian Vince Weiguang Li. Mr. Li spent seven years in a psychiatric hospital and then he was freed. Some people think it was schizophrenia, others believe it was windigo. This case of murderer running his truck over the people for no apparent reason has resemblance to Tim McLean’s murder.
Keith O says
BlackSabbath, The Aboriginals here have similar stories of spirits doing similar things.
A lot of native cultures know that this happens, quite often as a result of white fella’s building on sacred land.
Maybe there is some truth to this.
gravenimage says
If this were true then all Canadians would be rampaging around murdering people–instead of this overall being one of the most law-abiding socities in the world.
Save for the criminally insane, people *do* have free will.
Lion heart says
Gravenimage: today in Edmonton in Canada our CTV news announced that a Somali woman claimed that a stranger came up behind her and grabbed her by the neck trying to take off her hijab ! I am not sure if that’s true but Muslim in Canada have telenovela advantage of London Ontario attack to pursue their victimhood agenda and as I a Canadian Christian guy originally from Iraq , I think that Somali woman faked that incident to attract more attention about islamophobia as a few years ago the same thing happened when a a Muslim girl also in Canada claimed that a white guy tried to cut off her hijab with scissors but it turned out to be fake ! Remember as the false prophet Muhammad said it “ war is deceit “ .
gravenimage says
Thanks, Lion Heart. You are certainly correct that a great many of these ‘pulling off a Hijab’ incidents are actually faked. Any such crime is wrong–and illegal–if it actually happens. But many of these are hoaxes.
This most recent claim of having a Hijab pulled off did not actually entail such a claim even from the purported victim.
There have been claims of several of these incidents in Edmonton, all by Somalis. One involved what police desctibed as an “assault” even though in her own words she was not touched.
I think there is a hint as to likely motive–Jibril Ibrahim of the “Somali Candian Cultural Society” is demanding that the bar for ‘hate crimes’ be lowered.
This also involves grants being given to ‘victim groups’ by the state–so Muslims have another reason besides general victim-mongering to make such claims.
In the wake of Jihad terror attacks in Edmonton in 2017 Ibrahim warned against–you guessed it–“Islamophobia”.
Elizabeth Lawson says
Judging by the CATO Institutes findings on hate crimes and on terrorism, I’d say either we robustly find the courage to defend the rule of law and democracy now, or face the consequences. Yes, we are a compassionate and caring country, but I perceive NO level playing field regarding the assessments ( often immediate and the result of speculation) of assailants/homicide victims in our political system. So, an assailant commits a horrifying crime. We learn that he/she is a “native born” ( meaning Canadian, or one of ‘us’) citizen. The victim(s) demise is considered in this circumstance to be puzzling – even though he/ she may be a Christian minister, an attendee at a church or synagogue- or, as in the case of Private Rigby in London, England, a soldier. THEN we learn that the assailant’s name is distinctly connected to the country from which his family left – all of whom adhere to an ideology that has openly declared itself at war with we “infidels”. In this recent atrocious murder of a Moslem family, we see the kindness and community support that is typical of this country. What I DON’T see is the usual pathetic assessment of the brute who carried out this crime. Were he from that part of the world that is so strongly associated with hatred of and violence against we “ infidels” we would have been informed that he had a mental problem, and that the motive for his crime ‘remained unclear’. Disgusting!
gravenimage says
Carnage and ‘Islamophobia’ in Canada
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Most importantly, this is *illegal* in the west.
But murdering Infidels is lauded under Islam.
Bikinis not Burkas says
As per Quran 8:12
[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, “I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”1
— Saheeh International
gravenimage says
Grimly apt quote, Bikinis not Burkas.
Igor says
Why is it that every time a muslim kills people they are mentally deranged but a mentally ill non muslim is just an islamaphobe
Anonymous says
The interview video doesn’t provide a reading cursor. It starts and is unstoppable and after hearing the whole Oh Canada and having no way of controling the video I quit listening.
gravenimage says
Oh, the humanity!
OLD GUY says
I don’t agree with violence form anyone. But let’s not over react to violence against islam and at the same time ignore the violence of muslim/islamic persons against the rest of mankind. Islam seems to rape, honor kill and murder christians and their own women and children around the world on a daily basis without much media coverage or outrage. Just because they call it jihad in the name of god is no excuse for the slaughter of others.