Why does the Iranian legal system treat parents who murder their children with relative leniency? Because of the general acceptance of honor killing in the Islamic world.
In the Qur’an, a mysterious figure, known as Khidr in Islamic tradition, kills a boy in an apparently random and gratuitous attack. He then explains: “And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy.” (18:80-81)
And according to Islamic law, “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (Reliance of the Traveller o1.1-2).
Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”
More on this story. “Son, daughter and son-in-law all died in honor killings a decade apart,” Jerusalem Post, May 24, 2021 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
An Iranian filmmaker has allegedly been murdered by his parents in an honor killing, according to Arab media.
Babak Khorramdin, a 47 year old film-maker, is thought to have been murdered after having an argument with his father over his unmarried status.
His parents, Iran and Akbar Khorramdin, confessed to killing him, admitting that they knocked him out with sleeping pills before suffocating, stabbing, and dismembering him. Three years earlier they had killed their daughter in the same manner, and their son-in-law seven years before that, they confessed during the trial.
The murder was discovered after police were called to the Tehran suburb of Ekbatan after someone spotted human body parts in a bin, according to local media. The film-maker was then identified using his fingerprints, and the police arrested his parents in their house.
The parents claimed that their son-in-law had been abusive, their daughter had been a drug addict and their son had been having relationships with students, said Hussein Rahimi, a Tehran police officer, summarizing the parents’ excuses for their actions.
“I don’t regret what I did with the cooperation of my wife. They were corrupted and I thank God,” Akbar told the reporters during the court hearing.
The incident sparked a nation-wide conversation about the concept of honor killings, and the existence of a legal system that treats parents who murder their children with relative leniency, as the maximum sentence for the crime is only ten years….
gregbeetham says
I would expect nothing less from the followers of Satan.
joanofark06 says
Right! Exactly!! And the koran is his bible!
All this killing is just practice, for after satan walks into his (newly built) temple, and proclaims himself “god” and has everyone take his “mark” to worship him.
He’ll need his followers (the millions that have immigrated into those 26 non-muslims countries a few years ago (remember that), so they can do to the Christ believers, what it says in Rev 20:4.
Biden is allowing hundreds, if not thousands to come into THIS COUNTRY, just like Obama did and Trump did (to some extent).
And now, you know why they’re so happy to be here, and all of those many other non-muslim countries….satan has a job for them….soon. (of course, their allowed to practice, while they wait).
I believe we about 4 or 5 more years, till the “beginning of the end” or the beginning of the 7 year Tribulation. It would take some time to explain why or how I know that, so I can’t explain here. But here’s a little tidbit….would you say “trump” is short for “trumpet”?
Westman says
“So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy.”
More Islamic “Mercy” when they don’t know the meaning of the word.
Infidel says
Just like in the quran, after a lot of passages where some act of barbaric cruelty is described, one sees it followed by the phrase, ‘For allah is forgiving and most merciful’
gravenimage says
*Exactly*, Infidel.
This is similar to folk traditions regarding mythical figures like evil fairies that are considered dangerous–referring to them as the “gentle folk” or some such so that they will be appeased and not harm them. This referring to the vicious “Allah” as “merciful”–especially when he is being *anything but*–appears to be very much the same kind of thing.
Keith O says
Westman, These scum also have no concept of the real meaning of HONOR.
joanofark06 says
Agree!
Crusades Were Right says
[…they knocked him out with sleeping pills before suffocating, stabbing, and dismembering him. Three years earlier they had killed their daughter in the same manner, and their son-in-law seven years before that, they confessed during the trial]
Imagine being a member of a family like that!
“Glad you could come over to celebrate Eid, Mohammed!”
“No problem. Say, where is everybody?”
“Er… a few members of the family couldn’t make it – a matter of honour, you might say. But the important thing is YOU are here, Mohammed! So, tell us about what you’ve been getting up to lately.”
“Well, I met this Christian girl I really like, and… say, where are you going?”
“Oh, I just need to check where I put my sleeping pills. I’ll be right back… and then I’ll make you a nice mug of cocoa.”
Infidel says
Actually, for this one, they may first insist that he converts his Christian girlfriend to islam. Muslims love (in a manner of speaking) practicing marriage jihad, where they ensnare non-muslim girls – underaged or not – into their trap, marry them and convert them to islam. In the UK, it’s called ‘Grooming gangs’, in India ‘Love Jihad’ – both pretty inappropriate terms. I call it Marriage Jihad, since the modus operandi here is to marry a girl, then pressure her to convert to islam, and of course rape her so that even if she gets free, she’s sorta tainted in that a lot of people would balk at dating or marrying her: that’s how they psychologically try to dissuade them from trying to escape or leave
Raja says
Yes Infidel,
Marriage jihad is more appropriate than the mean grooming gangs or Love jihad. Love jihad doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Actually it is marriage through jihad but I am just not getting a suitable term.
Infidel says
Yeah, it’s been difficult coming out w/ a completely appropriate term. Actually, what they do is a combination of marriage and rape, depending on which is sufficient. In India, where someone’s marriage is usually enough to make her off-limits to anyone else, just marrying her is enough to get the job done, and sometimes rape is not even required, since the girl is considered tainted, even if she is underaged and the marriage illegal. Whereas in western countries, where that won’t end a girl’s marital future, they go for rape, so that she’s even more emotionally damaged and less attractive to any potential suitor. A year or so ago, OpIndia coined the term ‘Grooming jihad’, but even that has a positive tinge to it, as grooming is something one does to dogs or horses for dog shows or derbys
Also, it’s not like after they’ve married these girls, that the latter lives happily ever after. After a few months of sex, or at the most a few kids, when they have had enough of them, they happily divorce them (at least in India now, they are outlawing the 3-talaq divorce) and send them on the streets. These girls are now, as the Indians say, ‘na ghar ka na ghat ka’ (belong neither in home nor out of it). They can’t go back to their families, b’cos their families will get more socially tainted by their association w/ muslims, while they are not attractive to anyone in society at large. It often has a tragic end for them
When I think about what they go thru, everyone who denies this phenomenon – whether it’s British law-enforcement or Indian secular elitists – belongs in front of a firing squad. Or better yet, round them up and deport them to Pakistan, dropping them into the middle of these crime ridden communities that experience these abductions. It’ll be a win-win for everybody involved
Hoi Polloi says
Well, while realizing that life may be difficult in the aftermath for the women’s families of origin, it’s more difficult for the women and subsequent children. It didn’t simply happen in the West that someone’s marriage prospects weren’t ruined. Families refused to accept social stigma as justified and did right by their own. In order to break the hold islam is trying to gain and retain, the whole family of the woman will need to take them back into the fold and see that the children are not raised as muslim. The government must do its part by providing opportunities and education for these women and children and by disallowing the islamic practice that allows men a full hold over the children. It’s a matter of survival as a country.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Some members of the family were
dis-membered.
gravenimage says
*Ouch*!
joanofark06 says
Oooooooh…I would say “Good One!!” but…..Whew! Did you come up with that one by yourself? Brilliant!
Elizabeth Lawson says
What does one expect with this kind of absurd governance? This is absolutely state sanctioned murder right across Moslem lands. All that appears to be required is ‘evidence’ ( fabrications) provided by the guilty psychopaths to protect themselves. These people are no less than feral, vicious criminals. How many hardened criminals would have the stomach to carve up an enemy let alone his own son or daughter?. These people crawl out of the dark ages of brutes and barbarism.
Christopher Watson says
No, the Dark Ages were times of the re-emergence of religion, art, commerce and philosophy. We in Europe were coming into that bright dawn of the early Middle Ages. The ‘law’ in moslem lands are not laws any normal human would understand. Humans, like all animals, are bound by nature to care for their young. Animals will normally kill only when they or their children are threatened. They will also care for their families and then their tribe or social group. The tribe in primative times usually numbered about 180. When a tribe grew larger a small section would form a new tribe. All of the peculiar laws and customs of the moslems are imposed by a unique cult. No other ‘cult’ has any set of rules anything similar to the moslem rules. All other religions have a set of rules which impose a ‘brotherhood’ upon the religion; particularly the ‘family’. The basis of all religions, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, is the family. The central belief of most religions is the ‘birth’ of a child or the re-birth of humanity. The central ‘belief’ in Islam appears to be ‘death’ of anyone who does not worship the god-figure.
tim gallagher says
Very well said, Christopher. Yes, Islam is so unbelievably bent and twisted. Of course, many Muslims would not behave like these appalling, satanically evil parents have done, but Islam certainly condones behaviours like these murders, which are so completely against the normal love and nurturing that parents would have for their children. Islam is an extraordinarily sick ideology. And yet we keep being told by so many people that Islam deserves respect. Cases like this make me think that, if you have the mentality of a serial killer and get a kick out of murdering people, then islam is perfect for you. A Muslim society won’t mind you going around murdering people, especially if they are members of your own family. You just call it an honour killing and it’s all fine and dandy with islam. What a disgusting religious ideology Islam is.
gravenimage says
Christopher, it was the *end* of the dark ages that led to the resurgence of civilization.
Hoi Polloi says
One of islam’s many means of perpetuating its supremacist ideology: violence and fear of violence in the guise of love and purity.
Keys says
Their Allah is proud of them; they are like Allah.
These are Allah’s submitters with whom he is well pleased.
Raja says
It is this kind of phony submission to Islam that rest of Islamic population is awestruck though it is a false sense of religiosity with no rhyme or reason. .
Islam is not just a war machine, it is also a deceit machine. Who else but the devil would want a human sacrifice?
Infidel says
The real story here was the Iranian government arresting them in the first place. Given that what they did is perfectly sanctioned under islam
Rarely says
It is extremely difficult to imagine parents, especially mothers, murdering one of their children notwithstanding that their religion permits it. Equally unimaginable is the practice of encouraging one’s child to become a suicide bomber. Fortunately, these incidents are fairly rare when one considers that there are over 1.5 billion muslims on the planet.
gravenimage says
I wish they were a hell of a lot rarer. The fact is that this savagery is what Islam teaches, and it is lax Muslims who ignore it.
joanofark06 says
If you saw, what I’ve collected, since 9/11, you wouldn’t say they were rare! Why would you defend them anyway?
Rarely says
How can you interpret my comments as “defending” them?
Similarly I’m amazed that, with all the crazies on the road, there aren’t more fatal auto accidents. Is that defending the “crazies”?
Get a grip.
Keith O says
At one point in history Persia (Iran) was considered a beacon of light in the world.
They gave us the system of numerals we use everyday, science was light years ahead of Europe, they invented the first telescopes, their cities had clean running water and sanitation, beautiful art and poetry.
Then along came Islam and they have been going backwards ever since. Iran has gone from being a modern, forward thinking civilisation to a barbaric backwater that the rest of the world fears and loathes.
Isn’t religion wonderful?
Infidel says
Keith, w/ all due respect, I don’t think that non-islamic religions, like Zoroastrians, Buddhists, Jews, et al deserved to be painted w/ the same brush that you are painting muslims. Even if one is an Atheist
joanofark06 says
Exactly right!
gravenimage says
Agree, Keith and Infidel.
But Keith, you are mistaken in believing that Persia had no religion before the Muslim invasion. In fact, most Persians were Zoroastrians, with minorities of Buddhists, Christians, and Jews.
Keith O says
Gravenimage, I never said they didn’t have a religion before Islam! I meant basically that Islam screwed up a great civilisation.
I have had a good look at what they were like all the way back to the arrival of the Anunnaki and the knowledge they brought with them.
gravenimage says
This is very true, Keith.
gravenimage says
Honor killing spree in Iran: Parents who killed son confess that they previously killed daughter and son-in-law
……………….
*Just horrifying*. But “Honor Killing” is rife in Iran and the rest of the Islamic world, for all the reasons Robert Spencer cites.
Trevor Loughlin says
Fred and Rose West would probably be honoured citizens in Iran! This is why I have no sympathy for the Palestinians or any other “oppressed” Muslims. Not just their governments but their people support these cultural defects. Of course, forced inbreeding under the threat of honour murder has reduced most of these people to psychopathic idiots and the remaining high IQ population flees to the West. So it is not surprising that Israel, with a much higher IQ population, has defeated the child murdering genetic degenerates that surround and threaten them.
Walter Sieruk says
“The Islamic republic of Iran exists and operates as what every fundamentalist dreams of, an Islamic state ruled by Sharia law …”
Sharia law allows the brutal murderous action so inappropriately called” honor killing.” It should be made known that the actual origin of Sharia law is revealed in a Time –Life book with the title MESOPOTAMIA: THE MIGHTY KINGS copyright 1995. The point is this history book about the ancient pagan world of Mesopotamia informs the reader that “many Islamic laws resemble the Babylon and Assyrian forebears.” .page 150.
There is the above and other references imply that such pagan teachings were incorporated into the religion that Muhammad manufactured and then started.
Thus this further reveals that a lot of ancient paganism is part of the whole religion of Islam.
In other words, ancient paganism makes up much of Islam. Therefore Islam is a hoax.
[1] THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM by Ibn Warraq page 347
OLD GUY says
What a great religion, I brought you into this world my son or daughter so I have the right to take you out with the blessing of Allah. What a great religion and society islam has produced in the muslim world. We the voters here in America need to thank our politicians who support bringing these wonderful islamic people to our country and allowing us to support them while they destroy our neighborhoods and society. Diversity is NOT allowed in islam.