If this is true, the U.S. has done a very poor job of it, with leaders from both parties insisting that Islam is a religion of peace that has nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism, and demonizing and ostracizing anyone who speaks honestly about the motivating ideology behind the jihad threat.
The entire Islamic world should not be “targeted.” But Western leaders should be honest about the causes of jihad violence, and its ideological underpinnings.
“US fabricated Sep 11 to target entire Islamic world: Houthi,” Mehr News Agency, June 6, 2021:
TEHRAN, Jun. 06 (MNA) – The Leader of Yemen’s Ansarullah Movement Abdul-Malik al-Houthi has said that the United States fabricated 9/11 to target the Islamic Umma in an unprecedented manner.
Abdul-Malik al-Houthi made the remarks in a ceremony to commemorate the anniversary of “Shout at the Arrogant Powers” day, during which he explained the possible goals of the United States after the September 11 attacks.
The United States with the help of Israel has always sought to destroy Arab and Islamic identities, according to Al-Houthi.
The Yemeni Ansarullah leader stressed that after 9/11, the United States went beyond the governments that ensured its interests as its main targets and it sought to use the attacks as a pretext to directly target the Muslim Ummah.
Al-Houthi described the normalization of relations between some Arab states with the Zionist regime as a disgrace and betrayal of the Palestinian people and said that friendship with the Zionists directly targeted the Islamic Umma.
The Yemeni leader added that the main goal of the US and Israel was to destroy the cultural identity of the Islamic Umma….
Wellington says
Totalitarian ideologies have many things in common. One is an antipathy to freedom. Another is the requirement of having a “them” to despise, to hate, to marginalize, to humiliate and even to exterminate. Yet another characteristic of all totalitarian ideologies is complete intolerance of alternative ideas, put another way all suffer from just about the most pathetic aspect of the human condition, i.e., control-freak thought and behavior. And, as exampled by this article at JW, one more characteristic that all totalitarian ideologies have in common is paranoia which is not rooted in reality whatsoever.
N.B., Islam is as much of a totalitarian ideology as are Nazism and Marxism.
Oh, and I don’t want to forget one more common characteristic of every totalitarian ideology and that is that they are egregiously wrong about virtually everything. Put less euphemistically, all totalitarian ideologies get just about everything ass-backwards. Marxism does, Nazism does and Islam does.
Ecosse1314 says
Makes it easier for the rest of the world though. Just take everything they say and believe the opposite.
Wellington says
Yes, quite true, Ecosse1314, but your accurate comment is dependent on “the rest of the world” being wise, knowledgeable and savvy. Alas, so much of it is not.
Ecosse1314 says
Yes. The general level of ignorance regarding Islam is breathtaking. Especially in the West.
gravenimage says
Sadly true, Ecosse.
Lion heart says
Nothing new here conspiracy theory is deeply embedded in Islam since its rise . Even in Iraq after the fall of Saddam’s bloody regime where after every Islamic terrorist attack carried out by ISIS abs Al-Qada , Muslims would jump and say that those attacks were some by USA and Jews even the beheading videos they said those terrorists are American and Jews in disguise to deform the peaceful image of Islam ?? and I am a Canadian Christian guy originally from Iraq.
Infidel says
So when did the Houthis start following our home grown conspiracy theorists? When will they get to the point about the crashing planes not being able to melt steel, or whatever other physical discrepancies that those geniuses observed?
Keith O says
Infidel, I have no doubt that the US was attacked on Sept 11.
For me there are still a few questions, like, who funded and trained the terrorists?
How were they able to evade the security screen the US airforce has around the Pentagon?
Did they do it? Absolutely.
Did they have help? Hell yeah.
Who helped and funded them????????
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I was trained to look at an event and pick it apart to look at the chain of events and something is not quite right about the attacks.
Too many unanswered questions.
Infidel says
Keith, most of this was available in the 9/11 Commission Report. That said, while it’s fine to analyze various events in fine detail, I don’t think anyone would conclude that
– It was not done by 19 Arab muslims, all members of a jihadist group called al Qaeda
– It was done either by the US government, or by the Jooooooos
This is what many 9/11 conspiracy theories have alleged, and now the Houthis have caught on to it
Wellington says
Strongly seconded, Infidel. Almost every murder, including mass murder, leaves some stones unturned but this is why the standard for conviction in a criminal case is beyond a reasonable doubt (brd), which is ordinarily expressed in percentage terms as at least 90% certainty.
Beyond a reasonable doubt (brd) DOES NOT MEAN no doubt whatsoever, DOES NOT MEAN 100% certainty, and if no doubt was the standard almost no one would ever be convicted of a crime. There comes a point when common sense must take over lest most every criminal action never result in a conviction (e.g., hey, those gloves didn’t fit on OJ and if the gloves don’t fit you can’t convict, never mind OJ’s blood being everywhere it shouldn’t have been).
Time and time again I have found that many do not understand the distinction between beyond a reasonable doubt and no doubt. It’s a significant distinction which if it didn’t exist would result in a lot of clearly guilty people not being convicted.
And I would close here by noting that the vast majority of conspiracy theories parasitically reject the beyond a reasonable doubt standard and function, indeed thrive, upon a stupid no doubt standard. Hence, as an example, all the silly conspiracy theories for JFK’s assassination which are all bogus—Lee Harvey Oswald, a total loser but a very fine marksman (second highest award for marksmanship when in the Marine Corps and any Marine is an above average shot) killed JFK and no one else was involved—beyond a reasonable doubt.
pull the other one says
Actually many people think it was an inside job. Nobody can provide any evidence any of the planes they claimed were in use that day were actually there. Not one serial numbered plane part or serial numbered black box to be traced to any of the planes. Not one. Also no luggage.The manufacturers of the planes said they could not achieve the speeds they did at that low altitude, & the claimed Arab pilots were all dunces who had never flown a jet before. Hani Hanjour was so bad he wasn’t allowed to fire a Cessna. The two towers came down in a fashion & speed that were not gravity collapses & defied Newton’s laws. Multi ton steel sections were hurled laterally for 800 feet. Gravity cannot do that. Direct energy weapons were used to bring down those towers, WTC 7 was brought down by conventional explosives. No date stamped footage of the alleged hijackers at the airports that day, & it was reported they were still alive in their own countries afterwards. The air force was stood down by Chaney that day. The real planes were landed at military bases where the passengers were gassed, & they were switched to remotely flown military planes midair in the confusion of the war games happening that day. A missile was used at the Pentagon. If you think the deep state in the US would never pull a false flag look up the Gulf of Tonkin that got the US into Vietnam. The Patriot Act had already been drawn up before 9/11, but needed a “new Pearl harbor” to bring it in. 9/11 was the new Pearl Harbor they needed, & an excuse to invade anyone they wanted to. They claimed the hijackers & Osama Bin Laded were involved, but hang on, they were all Saudis. Did the US invade Saudi Arabia afterwards? No, they kissed Saudi ass. No official got fired or sanctioned after 9/11 after the supposed failure of the might of the US security system to a bunch of Arab rabble. After 9/11 there were only promotions, because it went off as the Deep State wanted it to. Chaney quarterbacked the whole thing.
pull the other one says
Hey Wellington, no doubt only Oswald killed Kennedy? That’s not what your own government says. A second study was done by your own government on the Kennedy killing & it found there were multiple people involved in the shooting. Look it up. Good to know you believe in magic, ie the magic bullet.
Wellington says
pull the other one says: You provided no citations for any of your contentions. This won’t do.
Also, have you bothered reading the 2006 Popular Mechanics issue debunking a whole host of conspiracy theories?
Something else: So on 9/11 those 19 Muslim monsters that the vast majority of us concluded long ago caused 9/11 were all innocent?
Something else: Give a reader of your turgid prose a break by breaking it into paragraphs—and it’s “Cheney,” not “Chaney.”
Yet something else, I suspect you think that FDR knew Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed by the Japanese before it was. Am I correct here?
Finally, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was actually two incidents, the first on August 2nd of 1964 and the second on August 4th, 1964. The first one definitely occurred while the second remains problematical, even spurious to this day. It is important that these two be noted and dealt with separately.
Enough. Your turn if you care.
Wellington says
put the other one says: Again you assert things with no citations. Again I say to you this won’t do. I suspect that the government study you’re referring to is the 1979 investigation and which many have disputed, including me. The Warren Commission actually got the murder of JFK correct though the Commission itself made certain errors (as many murder investigations do without being wrong about the conclusion). Have you bothered reading Case Closed by Gerald Posner? Probably not.
And the bullet wasn’t magic. That second bullet just did what many bullets do and that is wild and crazy things. It was found almost in tact on the gurney that Governor Connally was brought in on to Parkland Hospital. But you already knew this, didn’t you?
gravenimage says
The aptly named “pull the other one” wrote:
Actually many people think it was an inside job. Nobody can provide any evidence any of the planes they claimed were in use that day were actually there…
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Right–anyone seeing the planes slam into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon was just seeing things…
Then, is this vicious tool claiming that loved ones who received calls from the passengers on United 93 are lying–and that the records of these calls was somehow fabricated?
Then, there is wreckage from United 93. “pull the other one” is either ignorant or lying here.
And the hijackers didn’t have to start the flights or land the planes–they were already aloft when hijacked. All they had to do was steer.
As Wellington notes, the technical issues have all been dealt with by Popular Mechanics.
As for the claim that “many people” say that 9/11 never happened, by this “pull the other one” means Muslim apologists and unhinged conspiracy theorists.
More:
The two towers came down in a fashion & speed that were not gravity collapses & defied Newton’s laws.
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This is a particularly bizarre claim. Is “pull the other one” saying here that the towers never fell, because physics somehow would not allow it? I guess the ‘filthy Infidels’ just imagined it…
More:
No date stamped footage of the alleged hijackers at the airports that day, & it was reported they were still alive in their own countries afterwards.
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Note that “pull the other one” desperately wants to believe Muslim countries that no Muslims were involved.
More:
The air force was stood down by Chaney that day. The real planes were landed at military bases where the passengers were gassed, & they were switched to remotely flown military planes midair in the confusion of the war games happening that day.
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Does “pull the other one” have proof of this? Of course not–proof is for fools…
Is he also saying that all 39,000+ Jihad terror attacks were also done by Americans to make the poor Jihadists look bad?
Note that he doesn’t bother to say…
Wellington says
Congratulations, gravenimage, on another point by point destruction of a bogus contention. I really admire the way you decimate in detail specious reasoning.
Keith O says
WOW, WOW, WOW, all I wanted to do was point out that there were a few un answered questions about 9/11
Remember, at no stage did I say that mudslimes hadn’t done it, only that they had help.
And,,,,, I opened Pandora’s box.
jimjfox says
‘Pull the other one’ Just another blowhard conspiracy nutjob, don’t take the bait!
‘They claimed the hijackers & Osama Bin Laded were involved, but hang on, they were all Saudis. Did the US invade Saudi Arabia afterwards? No, they kissed Saudi ass.’
His only sensible comment in the whole diatribe, with which I agree (allowing for the typo) & that one was reportedly an Iranian. Were they not referred to as the Glorious Nineteen? Recall the so-called Koranic “ Miracle of 19 “ 😉 !
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
I have always been a big fan of Popular Mechanics. As early as grade school, my parents bought the subscriptions to Popular Mechanics, Popular Science, and Mechanics Illustrated. I read them all for years afterwards. It was truly an amazing self-taught education. I credit that with grounding myself in factual, evidence-based logic.
I did find your reference for the 2006 Popular Mechanics article addressing the 9/11 World Trade Center terrorist attack:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/
gravenimage says
Thank you, Wellington.
gravenimage says
Keith, I think your questions are certainly valid. I also think they have largely been answered, but that is another matter.
gregbeetham says
If the Islamic umma wasn’t so feral it wouldn’t get targeted, if you don’t want your umma to get targeted stop attacking other people.
tim gallagher says
Spot on, gregbeetham. As if the 9/11 Muslim terrorist attacks are the only Muslim terrorist attacks. They are neverending. Around 40,000 Muslim terrorist attacks around the world since the 9/11 attacks. And 1400 years of murderous Muslim invasions on top of that. As you say, if they want to avoid being targeted, then they have to stop being such murderous scum who continually target non-Muslims.
gravenimage says
Yes–Islam would be a horror even if it were not for 9/11. It was an unusually high-profile, high body count, and organized Jihad terror attack, but otherwise very much in line with so many many others before and since.
Mike says
a special kind people
gravenimage says
Yemen: Houthi leader claims US fabricated 9/11 in order to target the Islamic world
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Ah…right. Abdul-Malik al-Houthi is the same guy who screams “Death to America!”. Try again…
Walter Sieruk says
How absurd in that that statement jihadist chief . This shows that anyone can say or claim anything without valid proof to uphold it.
By the way once a Muslim on internet want so far as to claim that “Muslims didn’t commit the mass murders on 9/11…..” then he actually want on a accused me , Walter, of being the mastermind chief of the horrendous events with occurred on September 11, 2001.
Who ,I didn’t know that I was behind 9/11.
gravenimage says
Grimly hilarious, Walter!
gravenimage says
Abdul-Malik Al-Houthi has also claimed that America has spread cancer and AIDS in Yemen:
“WATCH: Houthi leader slammed after claiming US ‘spreading AIDS and cancer across Yemen’”
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1824646/offbeat
Hilariously, both the Houthis and their Muslim opponents in Yemen are accusing each other of being controlled by America here. Stooges.
Sabri S. says
9/11 was a controlled explosion…this is a fact. Those 19 Arabs that were paraded on your infidel media the very next day were innocent scapegoats. Why do you think that none of their families speak of this trumped up attack, even to this day. They have been compensated to remain silent. The 3rd building was announced as destroyed, before it was detonated. Look it up!
Keys says
Great comment by Sabri S.
It shows Sabri S. has no credibility, none.
Islam is not a religion of peace.
Look it up !
gravenimage says
This from Sabri S. is particularly grotesque, given that he himself has affirmed that Muslims have the right to murder Infidels who don’t submit to Islam.
He wrote:
“Why do you think that none of their families speak of this trumped up attack, even to this day.”
Note this “reasoning”–if the families of the victms haven’t claimed that it was ‘filthy Infidels’ waging Jihad, it must be because the ‘filthy Infidels’ threatened them… Good grief.
James Lincoln says
Sabri S,
You have no credibility on Jihad Watch. Zero.
What you are is a “very devout” muslim.
Back in May 2020, you posted that the father did the right thing by beheading his 13-year-old daughter.
Here’s the proof:
Islamic Republic of Iran: Father beheads his 13-year-old daughter in honor killing
MAY 27, 2020 11:00 AM BY ROBERT SPENCER
“Sabri S. says
May 28, 2020 at 5:49 am
No, they are not barbarians…far from it. What would be barbaric would be to allow teenage girls to run around like immoral whores, getting pregnant, spreading STDs, and becoming single mother welfare queens – just like in the US and Europe! This father did the right thing, as uncomfortable as it may be for westernized hypocrites to admit. He protected his family, stood up for his culture, and sent a definitive deterrent to any other dumb teenage whores that this behavior is not to be tolerated at any level. The alternative would be to allow the degeneracy, immorality and societal garbage in that has brought down civilizations since the beginning of time. America and Europe are doomed – period and fact. Islam is the best way to live. Look at the declining west and no intelligent, moral person would accept that decay. In fact, in America, muslims don’t and won’t!!!!!! count on it. We never submit or integrate into your garbage, inferior immorality. Allah U Akbar and onward muslim soldiers in the US, Europe and beyond!!!!!!!!!!”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/05/islamic-republic-of-iran-father-beheads-his-13-year-old-daughter-in-honor-killing
Wellington says
Excellent retort, James, to Sabri S. And thanks also for the link to the 2006 Popular Mechanics issue. Since I was never mechanically minded (and I wish I had been), as a boy I read voraciously about Greek and Roman mythology, ancient Egypt, medieval Europe, et al. From a very early age I had a notion that I was born in the wrong century. Still do.
Best to you and yours. Take care.
gravenimage says
Thanks for pointing out this sickening savagery from Sabri S. again, James.
CogitoErgoSum says
It was so convincing that even Osama bin Laden thought it was done by Muslims.
gravenimage says
+1
Donovan Nuera says
I wish we went to war against Islam the next day on 9/12/01 and nuked Mecca and Medina and ended the 1400 year barbaric scourge and saved 1.3 billion people from insane delusional cult so that 6.3 billion of us could live in peace!!
gravenimage says
Dear Donovan–the black rock in Mecca has been damaged and likely even destroyed several times. The idea that Islam would end if Mecca was taken out seems to be baseless.
jimjfox says
Nuking both of Islam’s holiest places would end the Hajj & Islam with it, I think, the black rock being of no great importance compared to such devastation. Why did the all- powerful Allah allow this to happen? INSH’ALLAH?? Perhaps our infallible prophet & his religion are not true?
Millions of Muslims must certainly have great doubts…
In reality such action can never happen; it would trigger nuclear response from Pakistan & possibly retaliatory strikes from other nuclear armed States & possible Armageddon.
Ecosse1314 says
Very true but now with mass media it would get far larger coverage. Might be worth a shot(pun intended)
gravenimage says
Jim, I see no evidence that leads to a conclusion that taking out Mecca would end Islam.
gullible sheep says
Wellington, of course FDR knew Pearl harbor was going to be bombed, that’s why he moved the aircraft carriers out of there. Why do you think the message between Churchill & FDR on Pearl Harbor is still classified? Because Churchill knew it too & told him about it. They had already cracked the Japanese code & were listening in on them.
Here’s the link to the second study showing multiple people in the Kennedy assassination.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/select-committee-report/part-1b.html
All I ask is you provide me some evidence any of the claimed planes were there on 9/11. None of you can do it. I didn’t say there were no planes, I said they were switched for remotely flown military planes. The serial number of the flight recorder black box at the Pentagon was 000000000. In other words it was invalid. It is illegal to fly a plane in the US with an invalid serial numbered black box or flight recorder. Explain that one.
Giacomo Latta says
Maybe some day you will be able to meet friends and relatives of those mentioned on the flight manifests. Or maybe you can talk to those of the courageous not-so-gullible totally-plugged-in passengers on the flight that ended in Pennsylvania. It’s curious that the handful of famous people on board disappeared without anyone knowing exactly how. That is hard evidence unless you have more creative drivel in your intestines.
Wellington says
gullible sheep: Sorry, but you live in conspiracy world.
No serious historian thinks that FDR knew beforehand that Peal Harbor was going to be bombed. What FDR and people around him like George Marshall did think was that it was likely that the Japanese, after FDR cut their oil supplies, would attack some place—Guam, Wake Island, the Philippines, Pearl Harbor, et al, but they didn’t know where. Respecting Peral Harbor it was felt that if any attack occurred there it would not be a military attack but sabotage. This explains why American planes were all lined up to keep an eye on them but which played to Japan’s advantage. As for the carriers being out at sea, that was just pure good fortune for the Americans. The Japanese kept complete radio silence moving towards Hawaii and so MAGIC was not a factor on December 7th, 1941.
I suggest you read Gerald Posner’s Case Closed which deals with the Select Committee on Assassinations of 1979 throughout his work, especially pp.455-461, that deals with the acoustical theory of two shooters—it wasn’t proven but unfortunately it was put in the final report. To date there is zero solid evidence that anyone but Oswald killed JFK.
As for 9/11, as Giacomo Latta has already replied to that more than adequately I have nothing more to say other than to challenge you to prove your contention that the serial numbers on the black box you mentioned were exactly that. What are your sources for this claim?
gravenimage says
Ridiculous conspiracy theories from the aptly named “gullible sheep”.
The black box and cockpit voice recorder were both recovered from United 93.
Good replies from Wellington and Giacomo Latta.
gravenimage says
Note that “gullible sheep” provides no proof that the US military flew planes into American buildings to murder American civilians.
Then I’ll ask the question I ask all 9/11 conspiracy theorists–do you also hold that all Jihad terror attacks all over the world were also pulled off by the US military–presumably to make Muslims look bad? And how to explain pious Muslims preaching and celebrating Jihad if this is all actually done by the ‘filthy Infidels’?
gullible sheep says
Nope, the Muslim jihad terror attacks are all valid & legit. Why do you confuse two different things? Governments have been pulling false flags for 100 years, Muslims have been doing jihad terror attacks for 1500 years. Just accept both things happen & are unrelated.
gravenimage says
“gullible sheep” wrote:
Nope, the Muslim jihad terror attacks are all valid & legit.
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Considering Jihad terror attacks “valid & legit” is certainly a *very* strange way to phrase things. Anti-Jihadists actually *condemn* such attacks.
More:
Why do you confuse two different things?
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Pretending that 9/11–a Jihad terror attack pulled off by Muslims, masterminded by Muslims, and celebrated by Muslims–is a “different thing” from other Jihad terror attacks makes no sense. It was bigger than most Jihad terror attacks, but hardly different in kind.
Yet more:
Governments have been pulling false flags for 100 years, Muslims have been doing jihad terror attacks for 1500 years. Just accept both things happen & are unrelated.
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Pretending that Jihad terror attacks have nothing to do with Islam and are instead done by our own goverment murdering its own people to make Islam look bad is utterly perverse–as well as utterly baseless.
And what other “9/11s” has the US government pulled off in the past hundred years, as “gullible sheep” baselessly claims? Citations, please.
gullible sheep says
You think the government wouldn’t sacrifice some of its citizens to promote a goal it has? What do you think happens every time a country goes to war. The EPA did tests of the air at Ground Zero after 9/11 & found the air was toxic, yet it then declared the air safe. The brave workers believed them & went in for the clean up without protection, breathed in the toxic air, & now thousands are dead because they believed the lies. Look it up if you don’t believe it. Perfect example of the government lying to its citizens & sacrificing them for its own goals.
Giacomo Latta says
And the government’s goal for wasting 3300 of its own citizens? This is only likely in a tyranny with a despot like Mao Tse Tung or Stalin, not a democracy where so many different and unique human beings would have to be in on the operation and yet not spill the beans. Sweet dreams and come back tomorrow.
gravenimage says
The claim that lax safety standards for first responders and clean up crews means that the government itself murdered 3000 of its own people is just bizzare.
OLD GUY says
Next he’ll believe that PIGS can FLY.
David M says
Yeah exactly. Now tell me a valid serial number from any of the recovered black boxes. You can’t because there were no valid serial numbers.
http://www.consensus911.org/point-flt-4/
http://911blogger.com/node/14081
gravenimage says
Now we have “gullible sheep” posting as “David M”. Note that these apologists for savagery are unable to be honest. *Ugh*.
gullible sheep says
Stop denying facts. The facts are the EPA declared the air safe at Ground Zero, the workers believed it, didn’t wear masks, & now thousands of them are dead because of the government’s lies. Prove that wrong if you can. Show me a valid serial number of a plane part or black box. You can’t.
Giacomo Latta says
Name your sources. You can’t.
gravenimage says
How is my noting that “gullible sheep” and “David M” are one and the same “denying facts”? Just is completely dishonest.
Then, I never said that the EPA didn’t declare the air safe at Ground Zero–in fact, I addressed that point in my post of Jun 9, 2021 at 5:33 pm above.
Here is more:
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/world-trade-center-rescue-workers-believed-epa-ended-sick
Of course, the claim that thousands have died from the health effects of 9/11–as opposed to the attack itself–is quite false:
This, from 2019:
“343 NYC firefighters died on 9/11. Since then, 200 have died from Ground Zero-related illnesses”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/07/19/nyfd-200th-firefighter-death-linked-9-11-related-illness-victims-compensation-fund/1776314001/
This is still tragic, of course–but “gullible sheep”–or is it “David M”?–seems intent more than anything in blaming the “filthy Infidels” for 9/11.
Then, “gullible sheep’s” (David M’s) claim that no black boxes were ever found is of course quite false:
“The Black Boxes: Key to Understanding the Final Moments of Flight 93”
https://www.flight93friends.org/learning-center/crime-scene-investigation/the-black-boxes
Then, there was a serial number on the landing gear from one of the planes flown into the Twin Towers that fell into the Burlington Coat Factory some blocks from Ground Zero.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/911-plane-landing-gear-lower-manhattan-nypd-51-park-place_n_3165651
So “gullible sheep” claiming that there is no evidence of the planes’ black boxes and serial numbers is quite false–like so much of the rest of his claims about 9/11 not being Jihad, but instead being done by the ‘perfidious’ Americans.
gullible sheep says
Okay then Gravenimage, provide me the valid serial number of that planted plane part they said they “found” much later. That was just as bogus as the engine they planted on the street in New York, which just happened to be the wrong engine for the plane they claimed hit the towers. Provide me with a valid serial number of any plane part or engine like you say you can. Hmmm, nothing happening there. If only the super strong black boxes had been as strong as the passport from the claimed hijacker they say happened to just float down gently to the street & be discovered. Don’t ever blame 9/11 on Osama Bin Laden either. he said he didn’t do it, & the FBI dropped all charges against him for lack of evidence. Are you happy the US kissed Saudi ass after 9/11 when the so called hijackers were all Saudi? Funny how they didn’t invade Saudi Arabia after 9/11, instead they invaded Iraq.
gravenimage says
It is clear that “gullible sheep” is not interested in proof.
And now he is claiming that Americans are manufacturing and planting fake plane parts all over Manhattan–just bizarre. It was known from the first day that landing gear from one if the planes had fallen into the Burlington Coat Factory store.
I suppose he is saying that the black boxes containing loved one’s voices are all faked too–or else their relatives are all lying. Try again…
And here is Osama bin Laden himself gloating over 9/11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tSy2Qi8mr0&ab_channel=APArchive
Is “gullible sheep” going to say that this is not Osama bin Laden–maybe, I don’t know–actually Sacha Baron Cohen instead?
And I have said before that the US continuing to consider the vicious Saudis to be allies is foolish–the idea that this somehow proves that it was Americans who coimmit Jihad terror makes no sense, though.
Note that “gullible sheep” here has never actually said *anything* critical of Jihad terror, either as himself ior as “pull the other one”–this does *not* surprise.
So why is he here? To deflect from Jihad and instead blame the ‘filthy Infidels’.