Next thing, this clown will tell us that “Islamists” are “white supremacists.”
In any case, his asinine statement here once again illustrates the truth of what I’ve pointed out for years: “Islamism” is a concept developed by Western non-Muslims in order to distance Islam from the crimes committed in its name and in accord with its teachings.
“Nehammer’s stupid and embarrassing saying: ‘Islamists are not Muslims,'” translated from “Nehammers dummer und peinlicher Sager: „Islamisten sind keine Muslime“,” Unzensuriert, July 10, 2021 (thanks to Medforth):
The often martial rhetoric of the ÖVP interior minister Karl Nehammer cannot hide his lack of knowledge. It becomes embarrassing when the minister responsible for asylum, but also for counterterrorism, has no idea about Islamists and Muslims.
In his speech in parliament, Nehammer actually said this sentence:
Islamists are not Muslims.
Islamists want a theocratic state
Did you hear that right? One look, Mr. Interior Minister, at Wikipedia would have been enough not to embarrass yourself in front of the general public. Islamists are the adherents of radical Islam who want to establish a social and state order that is legitimised solely by religion. That this cannot be a Catholic or Buddhist order, but a Muslim one, will be clear to everyone – with the exception of Nehammer.
Child-friendly explanation
Info-Direkt editor Michael Scharfmüller has now taken the trouble to explain to Nehammer that every Islamist is of course a Muslim, but not every Muslim is an Islamist. In a video, Scharfmüller tries a child-friendly explanation for Nehammer to make the difference clear to him:
Every car is a vehicle, but not every vehicle is a car. Think about it!
CogitoErgoSum says
I think the term Muhammad would use for the Islamists is “the best of people.” He would call the other Muslims who want just to sit quietly in peace at home “hypocrites.”
Ade Fegan says
““Islamism” is a concept developed by Western non-Muslims in order to distance Islam from the crimes committed in its name and in accord with its teachings.”
Crystal clear
(so why do so many struggle with it ?)
Raja says
+1
gravenimage says
Austria: Interior Minister claims that ‘Islamists are not Muslims’
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Karl Nehammer is an ignorant tool–“Islamism” is nothing more than orthodox Islam.
This was the same fool who missed the clues on the Vienna Jihad terror attack last year:
“Austria was warned before terror attack in Vienna”
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/austria-was-warned-before-terror-attack-in-vienna/2032480
Austrian interior minister confirms Vienna gunman known by intelligence service
somehistory says
When one visits a doctor of medicine for a physical, he may be told to hold out his leg, or cross his legs (depending on how the doctor performs the test), or the doctor may hold up one leg at a time, with one hand behind the knee, and gently strike the knee with a rubber hammer.
If the reflexes are good, the leg will jump forward. “A knee-jerk reaction.”
When reading this and seeing the idiot’s name….can’t help but think he’s making a “knee-jerk reaction” rather than consider the facts. He must not wish to appear as a bigot, racist or, oh the worst of all, a “phobic,” when it comes to islam and those who adhere to the evil filth.
If a mozlum, belonging to islam, is not an “islamist,” then, by-cracky, just who would be an “islamist”? He needs to come forward and enlighten everyone as to what persons the term applies.
Wellington says
“Islamists are not Muslims.”
Only an ignoramus or a liar will state this.
Whichever, no such person should be relied upon at all where Islam is concerned—and if one is a fool or a liar in one area, especially in such an important matter as a major religion, this provides good reason to question such a person in every other area of human activity, though I concede that such a person could still be excellent in their field of choice but not, no not at all, in the field of life.
Yes, no matter how skilled the Muslim in one field of endeavor or another is, be it modern medicine, auto mechanics, computer technology, aerospace engineering, et al., and ditto for Marxists, Neo-Nazis, KKK members, anarchists, and dhimmi apologists for Islam aplenty (dare I say here the leadership of the Democratic Party of the USA?—yes, I will say this and hold me to account for this assertion; do so), once one buys into total nonsense—and Islam is, de facto and de jure, inveterately functioning in the realm of nonsense in every area of human knowledge and ethics, representative of complete absurdity—then anything is possible and which is not meant in a positive way. Yes, Islam is the most sterling and lethal example of absurdity given respectability over the longest period of time in man’s historical record.
Oh yes, there still remains a hope for sanity and reason, but it diminishes with age—and the fact that so many old fools are imams or ayatollahs or some such other shit in the Islamic world, still propping up Mo’s decrepit creed, does not inspire hope but skepticism at the least, total cynicism at the most.
What a weird world we live in, whereby a religion that sanctions death for apostasy and for blasphemy, and which actually sanctions rape, still is exculpated, but a religion, i.e., Christianity, which has nothing in its theological blueprint which requires death for apostasy, the sanctioning of rape, or death for blasphemy, is far, far more excoriated by a rather recent and most malodorous phenomenon, i.e., the Western MSM, which might, yes might, be the “finest” example of collective, suicidal idiocy in all of man’s history. It would get my vote.
James Lincoln says
Wellington says,
“…I concede that such a person could still be excellent in their field of choice but not, no not at all, in the field of life.”
Yes, very hard to explain – but true.
Far Left musicians, actors, athletes, etc., – great in their field but not the “field of life”.
Walter Sieruk says
That Interior Minister of Austria is either knowingly speaking a falsehood, therefor is is deliberate liar or he is just very ignorant when he said that “Islamists are not Muslims.”
First of all if a person looks up the so called word “Islamist’ in a dictionary or reference book on Islam that person would find no such word as “Islamist” if those book had been printed and published before September 11, 2001.
For bogus word “Islamist ” is a fictional term that was made up after 9/11 in order not to offend or upset non-violent peaceful Muslims. Nevertheless it’s important to keep within the bounds of reality and call people and things and events for who and what they actually are.
Infidel says
Mortimer
You are the person who in the past defended using the term ‘islamism’. ‘Islamist’ is obviously an extension/derivative of that term: it’s either the adjective used to described something adhering to ‘islamism’ or a noun describing a person who is a follower of ‘islamism’ (as opposed to islam). Since you yourself accurately proclaim that ‘islamist’ is a fictional term, will you also concede that the same is true about ‘islamism’?
Infidel says
Next time someone uses that inane invented term ‘islamist’, someone should ask him/her/zie/zer/… this question:
What is the Arabic/Turkish/Urdu/Farsi word/term for ‘islamist’ that’s different from ‘islamic’ or ‘muslim’?
gravenimage says
+1
Raja says
It is obviously a deceitful term coined by the Left to absolve islam of all the lawlessness and evil that comes with it! They are trying hard to minimize the damage done by the terrorists.
Infidel says
Raja
I just wonder that when Leftists in the subcontinent, for instance, try to translate these ‘islamism’ talking points into Urdu, what word to they use for ‘islamism’ to deceive people who’d otherwise think negatively about islam itself and muslims themselves? Same thing in the Arab world or in Turkey – what terms do they use to convince Arab or Turkish Christians who speak Arabic or Turkish that the problem is islamism and not islam?
Laura says
Cowardice.
Jim says
Islamists are Muslims, because the instructions and justifications for terror attacks are found in the Koran. If these instructions and examples and justifications were not there and the texts gave the same religious principles found in Jesus’ teachings, the Islamist would probably not commit their terror attacks. That most Muslims do not commit terror simply means that they do not follow the instructions and examples in the Koran, it does not mean these are not there. To separate Islamist terrorists from Islam makes no sense. It would only make sense if a Christian committed terrorism, since Jesus does not command his followers to do this. Of course Christians have done bad things, but Jesus did not tell them to do so in the New Testament record.
Johnny B says
He may fool gullible Austrians but he won’t fool any Muslims. I doubt he ever opened any Quran in order to understand what Islam is actually all about. What do you call such an individual?
OLD GUY says
He is technically right not all islamic people are muslim. However the Muslims control islamic teaching and fund its sorry existence.
James Lincoln says
Okay, ÖVP interior minister Karl Nehammer:
What is the difference between an islamist and a very devout muslim conducting jihad?
Patriotliz says
I would love to see you debate Dr. Zuhdi Jasser and other “moderate” Westernized Muslims living in the US, esp. those who go on FoxNews as a benign Muslim spokesperson for Muslims and who always refer to “Islamism” as that “bad” form of Islam that they are totally against yet still maintain they are the “good” Muslims and not those bad Islamists. I know there are different sects of Islam. Is there a “good” and a “bad” sect of Islam? A “radical” Islam and a “non-radical” Islam?