Maggie Oliver is right, but even her calls for justice don’t get at the root of the problem. Nowhere in this article does she come close to acknowledging the beliefs and assumptions that give rise to and perpetuate this kind of behavior, and no one else in Britain even comes as close to doing so as she does. This is because the practice of “grooming” young girls for sexual abuse and often prostitution is rooted in Islamic attitudes about infidel women, and everyone in British officialdom is terrified of having his or her career destroyed with charges of “Islamophobia.”
A survivor of a Muslim rape gang in the UK has said that her rapists would quote the Qur’an to her, and believed their actions justified by Islam. Thus it came as no surprise when Muslim migrants in France raped a girl and videoed the rape while praising Allah and invoking the Qur’an. In India, a Muslim gave a Qur’an and a prayer rug to the woman he was holding captive and repeatedly raping. And the victim of an Islamic State jihadi rapist recalled: “He told me that according to Islam he is allowed to rape an unbeliever. He said that by raping me, he is drawing closer to God…He said that raping me is his prayer to God.” In India, a Muslim kidnapped and raped a 14-year-old Hindu girl, and forced her to read the Qur’an and Islamic prayers. In Pakistan, another Christian woman recounted that her rapist was also religious: “He threw me on the bed and started to rape me. He demanded I marry him and convert to Islam. I refused. I am not willing to deny Jesus and he said that if I would not agree he would kill me.” Rapists demanded that another girl’s family turn her over to them, claiming that she had recited the Islamic profession of faith during the rape and thus could not live among infidels.
The Qur’an teaches that Infidel women can be lawfully taken for sexual use (cf. its allowance for a man to take “captives of the right hand,” 4:3, 4:24, 23:1-6, 33:50, 70:30). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.” (33:59) The implication there is that if women do not cover themselves adequately with their outer garments, they may be abused, and that such abuse would be justified.
However, anyone who points all this out will be excoriated as a “racist” and an “Islamophobe,” and accordingly ignored.
“MAGGIE OLIVER: Our so-called ‘justice system’ treats the victims of the Rochdale grooming gang with contempt,” by Maggie Oliver, Daily Mail, July 6, 2021:
It’s been ten years since I resigned as detective constable from Greater Manchester Police in protest at how the victims of the Rochdale grooming gang were repeatedly failed.
And so little has changed since then. This most horrific child abuse case continues to expose so much of what is wrong with our so-called ‘justice system’. Whether that’s inadequate charges, pitiful sentences, lack of victim care or systemic failures in prosecutions, this case exposes the lot, and it still makes my blood boil.
We discovered this week that Adil Khan and Abdul Rauf, two convicted members of the notorious grooming gang, are fighting deportation from the UK on the grounds this will breach THEIR human rights! But what about the human rights of the victims, whose lives they destroyed?…
Infidel says
This comment may well be deleted, but the UK is fast getting to the point where they’ll soon have vigilante justice. And when that happens – not if, since all peoples have their limits – they’ll have no one to blame but themselves
Raja says
Infidel,
Tragically true.
Keith O says
Infidel, The reality is that decent men have a point they reach where they simply cannot stand back and do nothing.
There is a quote from Edmond Burke, “The only thing needed for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing”.
Islam by contrast seems to have no limits to it’s behaviour and what is encouraged as being acceptable.
James Lincoln says
Keith O,
Reminds me of a quote from Popeye the Sailor:
“That’s all I can stand, I can’t stands no more.”
gravenimage says
Infidel, most people in the west are still silent and in denial about these horrors. The idea that there is nothing between silence and vigilante violence is both odd and mistaken.
Good people need to speak out.
James Lincoln says
gravenimage,
Yes, there is a “middle ground” which can be mostly effective.
1. No further muslim immigration.
2. Maximum public pushback against islamic ideology – by our leaders – in order to effect marginalization.
3. And all muslims need to be held fully accountable and subjected to all US laws – no exceptions.
4. No foreign funding of mosques, etc.
5. Outlaw all muslim brotherhood front organizations.
6. Etc…
gravenimage says
Absolutely agree, James.
Infidel says
Graven
The choice ain’t b/w silence and vigilante activities: it’s b/w enforcing the law and vigilante activities. If the law were enforced, nobody would be thinking about vigilantism. However, since one ain’t happening, the other soon will. Good people speaking out won’t do squat if it’s not followed by perps being brought to justice
gravenimage says
Infidel, a major part of the reason that our laws are not being enforced is because good people are not demanding it. I still think we need to speak out–the idea that we should stay silent and the one day start breaking the law ourselves–with all respect–makes no sense.
LB says
Infidel,
I like your optimism, but I just don’t see that happening. Modern technology and rampant unchecked corruption has given the UK (and most of the West) government not only unfathomable power, but also surveillance and control over people’s thoughts never before seen at any point in history. This is every tyrant’s wet dream.
Take this case for example: A police RIOT VAN showed up in front of a house in Manchester to check if a 12 year old girl is in proper self isolation. Mind you, the girl never had the China flu, the cops just randomly wanted to check on her because they now have the power to do so. Luckily, she was at home during the police raid, but if she wasn’t, she would face up to 10,000 pounds fine or 10 YEARS IN PRISON!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9790877/Manchester-mother-demands-apology-public-health-police-chiefs.html
Now you tell me, with every single social media post, DM, text message, email, phone call and group chat being recorded and monitored 24/7, how is any sort of vigilantism (or other defiance to the UK government) supposed to be organised? In Scotland, it’s illegal to even say “hate speech” (i.e. any sort of anti-Left sentiment) IN YOUR OWN HOME! Not to mention that at least 30-40% of the native (white) Brits and 90-100% immigrants (even if they were born in the UK, regardless of the generation) are SUPPORTING the mainstream leftist narrative. So not only will any potential vigilante group be up against the full force of the UK government, but also against their own people.
Unless you know something that I don’t and have some insider info, I just don’t see any sort of resistance from the UK people happening at all. The French are more likely to start another revolution than the Brits.
Infidel says
LB
At this rate, British girls should ask India to expand the CAA to non-muslim British girls (born girls, not trannies) who want to seek refuge from rape jihad. All they would have to promise is not to try and convert anyone there, but to just go and assimilate. They may either remain Christians, or they may embrace Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist or Parsi religions. Since the Brits don’t think their culture is worth preserving any more (unlike Sir Charles Napier), those refugees from prostitution shouldn’t try to preserve their culture when they migrate, but just assimilate and embrace the culture of locals, just like many British colonialists did in the 19th and 20th centuries
LB says
Is this sarcasm? I can’t tell. But in case it isn’t…. Move to India?? India can’t even save their own Hindu (and other non-muslim) girls from the muslim gangs, how do you think white foreign girls would fare? Need I remind you that white blond-haired blue-eyed girls were the most expensive and sought-after goods on muslim slave markets.
No, if the only option left to preserve their family is to leave, then all native Brits (and other Western Europeans) who think so should migrate to the only traditional Christian majority white (over 95%) no muslims (<1%) place left on Earth — Eastern Europe. We will accept them all, BUT, they need to leave their politics and leftist PC bullshit behind. We are all politically incorrect (translation: we don't get butthurt about every little thing) and we don't want that to change, ever.
gravenimage says
LB, that story is *just nuts*. And note that this happened in Rochdale–if, god forbid, this young girl had been the victim of a Muslim rape gang you can be sure that the police would not have been out in force to arrest the perps.
overman says
“Nowhere in this article does she come close to acknowledging the beliefs and assumptions that give rise to and perpetuate this kind of behavior, and no one else in Britain even comes as close to doing so as she does”
There are a few who speak out, but as robert says, they’re largely ignored. These would be – Anne Marie Waters [robert has appeared on her youtube channel], Pat Condell, Paul Joseph Warson.. l think Anne-Marie is the most outspoken.
mortimer says
Yes. Few in UK know about the mentality of the rapists, namely, that under Sharia law, non-Muslims are considered as ‘MUBAA’ (licit for rape … or ‘fair game’).
In my experience, most Muslim males understand that kafir women are ‘fair game’ and that Muslim women are ‘haram’, but they also know that Western countries have rape laws and that they may be caught. They also know that Sharia law stands above man-made laws so a minority Muslims are willing to take a chance.
The opinion of many Muslim males living in the West is generally that Western women are kafirs and thus they don’t deserve to be ‘honored’.
Ray Jarman says
Mortimer,
I agree with your sentiment but I think that the English are so beaten down and are afraid of being called racist and Islamophobic that they remain silent. It is truly a shame that the nation led by Winston Churchill which stood against NATZI terrorism and aggression has become so pusillanimous.
roger Woodhouse says
Yes indeed.No one dare call it for what it is .The elephant in the room is to be ignored at all costs.Anne Marie Waters and her party are the only voices brave enough to name names but without publicity they, like all right of centre parties will remain in the shadows.Nigel Farage does command a certain following and he could (and still might) project his cause to get the message into mainstreme publicity.We live in hope.
mortimer says
Maggie Oliver is pursuing justice after resigning from a corrupt system that refused to do so. I hope she is not persecuted as was Tommy Robinson who was imprisoned in a jail for terrorists, and then hounded into exile because he demanded justice for the victims of the grooming gangs.
UK needs many more like Maggie Oliver and Tommy Robinson or they will lose their country to supremacist rapists like the Rotherham grooming gangs.
The rapists lost their right to live in UK by criminally breaking their contract with their new country.
Jayell says
Maybe, unless these allegations are completely untrue, a previous Labour PM had (a) not entered into an agreement with a certain foreign country to ‘allow muslims to practise their religion unhindered’ and (b) made sure of this by sending a memo round to UK police chiefs advising them to disregard as ‘unfounded’ certain kinds of complaint from under-age girls in certain areas, there might not be quite so much wrong with the current UK Justice system.
gravenimage says
You have mentioned this before, Jayell–citations? I’d like to know more.
gravenimage says
UK ex-cop: Rochdale Muslim rape gang case “continues to expose what is wrong with our so-called ‘justice system’”
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Maggie Oliver *is* right–and she is a decent person. But even she seems to have learned nothing about Islam over the past ten years. Meanwhile, these Islamic rape cases keep piling up–along with the British child victims and the authorities whitewashing this child rape.
OLD GUY says
Islamophobia the inability to tell the TRUTH about ISLAM. The problem with these rape gang men goes way back in their lives. From early childhood muslim boys are taught that a women is not their equal even if she is muslim/islamic. If a girl or women is non-muslim/islamic it’s their duty to convert her through rape or forced marriage or violence. When these muslim men come to a western country they bring that ideology with them and many of them are going to carry those teachings out.