Not necessarily! So relax!
“Reception of Afghans in France: the Taliban do not necessarily constitute a terrorist threat,” translated from “Accueil d’Afghans en France : les talibans ne constituent pas forcément une menace terroriste,” by Jacques Follorou, Le Monde, August 25, 2021 (thanks to Will):
France’s reception of Afghans fleeing the Taliban regime which came to power by force on August 15 has raised fears in the French public debate about the possible infiltration of terrorists into the territory. Government spokesman Gabriel Attal said Tuesday (August 24th) that five people had been subject to individual administrative control and surveillance since Saturday. One of them was taken into police custody on Tuesday for violating his house arrest. Mr. Attal nevertheless added that “the links” of these men with the Taliban were still “to be defined.”
The spokesperson said one of them, a 26-year-old man, was believed to have had a close connection with them. But, Mr. Attal said, he also “assisted in the evacuation of French people and people who worked for France during the evacuation of the embassy, at a time which was incredibly tense, [and] which probably saved lives.”
These administrative measures, which aim to “prevent the commission of acts of terrorism,” are in no way proof of a commitment to commit a terrorist act. These individuals will be kept in a hotel room for ten days in medical isolation and subjected to a daily police check which allows for a thorough examination of their background.
Being a member of the Taliban does not necessarily pose a threat to France. Ahmed Rashid, a recognized Pakistani expert on these Afghan fundamentalists, told Le Monde in May that they “still remain today an Islamo-nationalist movement which has no global jihadist vocation.” He noted that “if the Taliban are fighting ISIS, it is precisely to maintain their leadership and control over the country and over the Islamic struggle. They don’t want to be part of a caliphate that belittles their status as Afghans.”
Likewise, the conditions for joining the Taliban movement do not necessarily have a purely religious motivation. The rural Taliban who seized power in 1996, before being defeated by the Americans in 2001, hardly resemble those of today, connected and whose leaders are received in the big capitals. Having, for years, been one of only two Westerners to live in the city of Kandahar, a historic stronghold of the insurgents, and author of a book with Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, former ambassador to Pakistan of the Taliban regime, Alex Strick van Linschoten, already described, in Le Monde, in 2009, the sociological evolution of the Taliban. “After 2001, these religious students who became soldiers lost their religious purity (…), and many young people joined the Taliban ranks attracted by pay (…), thus changing the identity of the movement.”…
Doomer says
I can hardly believe this,but it appears in today’s American Thinker,it’s over
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/these_reports_out_of_kabul_are_too_awful_to_believe.html
Where Lara Logan(Leftist or ex-Leftist) who works for Fox News nowadays,and who is in Kabul,says the following on August 28:
“All that stands between these Americans & safety/home is the US govt & military.”
Meaning American citizens with US passports are being denied entry to fly home by American officials.
On the 29th Logan tweeted:
“If anyone is not paying att, the one thing you need to know about what is happening now in Afghanistan that will explain much of what happens from here is this:
THE UNITED STATES IS DIRECTING PERSECUTED AFGHANS AND HIGH VALUE TARGET ALLIES INTO TALIBAN CONTROLLED CHECKPOINTS.”
And also Rep. Dan Crenshaw, a former Navy SEAL, who knows his way around a war zone corroborated Logan’s report:”Also hearing State Department actively blocking efforts to land private aircraft for extractions. ”
“America, you need to know this: Biden is not letting US citizens through the airport gates. It has been impossible to get anyone through for the last 24 hours.
This administration has been lying about their intent to save Americans. Unforgivable.”
And it goes on saying:
“The consequences of this evil behavior are real and deadly. By late Sunday night, Emily Miller, another reliable reporter, had stomach-churning updates from a retired Special Ops person on the ground in Afghanistan trying to rescue Americans and Afghan allies:
“Report that buses of female American citizens were turned away at the gate at Kabul airport today from retired Army ops involved in the rescue efforts.”(Emily Miller)
“”We’re dealing with Kabul. There’s 7 buses of female American citizens. The CG refused to open the gate. We have a congressman with us and he had the state department reach out. MG Donahue refused. 10 minutes ago the females were taken by the Taliban. They are likely dead now.”(Emily Miller)
“Yes source is the retired special ops on the ground in Afghanistan trying to rescue Americans & Afghans but the USG stopped cooperating and on Sunday started actively blocking their efforts on Sunday “(Emily Miller)
PMK says
Another article on today’s AT:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/08/is_afghanistan_the_next_killing_field.html
If, as some suspect, China increases its presence in the country, Afghanistan’s Uighur Muslims are expressing the fear they will be treated as their compatriots in China are treated.
This was the first I had seen of Uighurs in Afghanistan. But from what I can find, they are from China (a Turkic group with no ancient ties to Afghanistan) and made their way to Afghanistan to fight alongside The Taliban and al-Qaeda and ISIS.
Now they are being portrayed by journalists as future ‘victims’ of the Taliban?
Doomer says
I could be wrong,maybe the Taliban plan is to hold thousands of Americans as hostages,but saying they were captured by ISIS-K.
Then the Taliban government would tell Biden they would use their influence to convince ISIS-K to release them,but only if they first give them the billions of dollars of the ex-Afghan government in US banks.
Biden will resist,ISIS-K/Talibans will start beheading Americans,and China,the ally and friend of the Taliban, will tell Biden to give them their money. If Biden doesn’t China would reveal the truth about the electoral fraud,how China and others like Iran had a part in it.
So Biden will give them billions either in cash or gold.It’s over
mortimer says
Millions of Afghans will now flee the so-called ‘beautiful’ religion of Islam in its purest Salafist expression! Why? Because most Muslims HATE real Islam … they prefer the lax, unrigorous type of Islam practiced by most Muslims. Most Muslims do not realize that Sharia law is draconian.
As for this French Pollyanna, Jacques Follorou … he is a GREAT fool to PRESUME the Taliban are not international terrorists.
PMK says
What parts of Sharia law does the ‘lax, unrigorous type of Islam practiced by most Muslims” consist of and what parts does it reject? I’ve never seen a Muslim reformation.
Islam is a totalitarian system. It’s all or nothing. Do all who emigrate accept the equal status of women in society? JW is replete with stories of Muslim immigrants mistreating women and murdering daughters who want to get out from under Islam. How are these people seeking a ‘lax’ version of Islam?
Islam, on its face, is incompatible with Western civilization.
Again, if Afghan migrants want to be considered Afghans, then let them BE Afghans. If they really hate Islam then why did they join the Taliban?. If they really hate Islam then they should leave it all behind when they emigrate. Most just want the comforts of an advanced society without having to assimilate and live by the laws of the host country.
revereridesagarin says
Anni Cyrus schools a braindead Canadian political hack — and the rest of the world — on the reality of Sharia.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/08/video-sharia-survivors-message-to-canadian-mp-maryam-monsef-who-says-sharia-fascinates-her
JimJFox says
+1
James Lincoln says
mortimer,
The Afghans who were not part of the Taliban never left islam – they just wanted a less strict enforcement of sharia law.
gravenimage says
Not always, James. Some are just “other sect” Muslims, including Shia like the Hazara who are targeted by the Sunni Taliban. They oppose the Taliban, but not on ideological grounds.
James Lincoln says
Thanks for the info, gravenimage.
gravenimage says
Thank you, James.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, your idea that most Muslims actually hate Islam is simply not borne out.
As you know, 99% of Afghans say they want Shari’ah law. Are you saying they are lying? The poll was anonymous, so this seems unlikely. Or that they have no idea what Shari’ah law is? This seems implausible, given how Islamic Afghanistan is.
Then, Afghanistan even before the Taliban returned 75% of women imprisoned are in jail for fleeing forced or abusive marriages, and stonings had been put back on the books, Only a tiny handful of Afghans ever protested this.
You are certainly right about Jacques Follorou, though–he *is* a fool.
But many of these Afghan Muslims *are* a threat to westrners–your idea that all Muslims invading the west are actually fleeing Islam is simply mistaken. If this were the case, there would not be the threat of Jihad terror here.
The purpose of Jihad is to establish Islam and Shari’ah.
Infidel says
She’s learnt nothing from her rape in Cairo some 10 years ago, and never will!!
wpm says
If what you posted is true Biden (who is the commander and chief? or his handlers) is instructing our military at the gates of the airport to turn away American citizens who in the near future will be hostages of the Taliban after we leave on 8/31/2021 tomorrow? Thousands of unvetted Afghan people are leaving by plane load to be shipped to western countries, in Europe, in North America for the most part I gather ? I wonder what could possible go wrong in the next 48 hours ,or if we could be seeing a little up tick on increase in Jihad activity in west in the next 6 months? No mean tweets from Orange Man BAD it is all worth it to the average Biden voter I mean the ones that are alive above ground .
mortimer says
Sleepy Joe-mentia isn’t ‘instructing’ anyone. He is receiving instructions from Ron Klain and Susan Rice who are his puppet-masters. Those who put this decrepit man into the White House have blood on their hands. The Dems have created one of the biggest of crises in the last 50 years. They have empowered the next terrorist state. Afghanistan should immediately be invaded by NATO and recaptured before Taliban power is consolidate and it will be 10 times hard to conquer.
“You can pay the piper now or pay the piper later” … at a much-inflated cost.
PMK says
Okay. If these new arrivals are members of the Taliban and the Taliban “still remain today an Islamo-nationalist movement which has no global jihadist vocation” and if “they don’t want to be part of a caliphate that belittles their status as Afghans”, then why not stay in Afghanistan and build your nation?
Lavéritétriomphera says
Hey Jacques, at present I wouldn’t like to be a journalist in Afghanistan under the taliban regime
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/26/afghan-journalists-face-uncertain-future-under-taliban.
gravenimage says
France’s ‘Le Monde’ says of Afghan migrants, ‘Being a member of the Taliban does not necessarily pose a threat’
…………………
Sure! After all, how is using little girls as sex slaves, destroying art, beheading religious minorities, and setting a woman on fire for “bad cooking” a threat? sarc/off
I’d say this is unbelievable, but sadly in the west today it is not.
Lavéritétriomphera says
The Talibans refused to deliver Bin Laden (who was a terrorist) to international justice. I believe that is something worth thinking about.
gravenimage says
Quite so, Lavéritétriomphera.
JCA Reid says
What is between the ears of the MSM? Certainly not any Common Sens, nor, a degree of Intelligence. They are in complete denial & by being so, simply aiding & abetting this Desert Nazi Ideology that enslves Mankind.
OLD GUY says
Le Monde being a member of Taliban does not pose a threat. Thats like saying the drug cartels don’t sell drugs. Let’s keep t simple, BULLSHIT!