Assorted historians with a penchant for Indian history have often romanticized the idea of Mughal supremacy. For the longest time, the average Indian was fed fallacies regarding the greatness of this line of invaders, and was conditioned to believe that no greater ruler than the Mughals had ever ruled over his land. Lately, the illustrious stories of Mughal grandeur have been exposed as nothing but the figments of a lazy mind’s twisted imagination, and most Indians have awakened to the hollowness of these stories.
However, there is one segment of Indian society that still considers the Mughals to be the best thing to have happened to India since antiquity. A Muslim movie director from the Indian film industry recently claimed that the Mughals were the “original nation builders.” That is quite an ambitious title to be bestowed upon those whose reign was marked by destruction, plunder, mass slaughter and rape. Contrary to being a “nation builder,” the first Mughal emperor was infamous for razing the historic Ram Mandir in Ayodhya in the 16th century, and erecting a mosque, the Babri Masjid, over its ruins.
A close look at their pattern of administration would place them in proximity to the present Taliban that just took over Afghanistan by force. There are more similarities between the militant outfit and the “great invaders” and we shall reflect on them as we go.
The Hindu Ram temple was not the lone target of Islamist bigotry and intolerance. Babur, the first Mughal emperor, wrote in September 1528 that he had ordered both of the statues of the Buddhas of Bamiyan destroyed. The sixth Mughal emperor, Aurangzeb, used heavy artillery to take down the statues and smashed the legs of the Buddha idols. In 2001, the Taliban carried out a total demolition of the ancient idols by means of dynamite, thereby completing the task that had been ordered and left incomplete by the esteemed Mughals.
Hindu historians state that over 40,000 temples were destroyed in Northern India during the period of Muslim rule. This is the same fanatical suppression of “non-believers” that the Taliban exhibits when they force the custodian of the Sikh Gurdwara Thala Sahib to take the Nishan Sahib (the holy religious flag) off the roof of the structure.
Back in July, an Afghan interpreter for US Army was beheaded by the Taliban. Beheading is a common pattern of execution that almost all Islamic jihadis practice, and the Mughals practiced it as well. The execution of Hemu, Guru Tegh Bahadur and hanging of the heads of 2000 Sikhs on spears and marching to Delhi to force the Sikhs into embracing Islam are all examples of how the Islamic barbarity that is besieging the world today is just a recurrence of atrocities seen during the 1000-year-long stretch of the Islamic rule in India.
The Taliban’s burning down of a library in Kabul is reminiscent of Bihar’s Nalanda University going up in flames after Turk-Afghan attacker Bakhtiyar Khalji’s invasion.
During the period of Islamic rule, non-Muslims in India were compelled to pay jizya to be allowed to practice their religion. The jizya, a tax non-Muslim subjects are required to pay to the Islamic ruler while inhabiting Islamic land, contributed heavily to the total revenue of the ruler’s treasury. Back in 2009, the Taliban imposed jizya on the Hindus, Sikhs and Christians in Pakistan. After the Taliban took over Afghanistan, UK-based Islamic preacher Anjem Choudary insisted that the jihad group impose the jizya on the non-believers in Afghanistan, too.
If you think the Taliban taking in girls as young as 12 as sex slaves is an invention of the 21st century radical Islamic spirit, be prepared to stand corrected. Over hundreds of millions of Hindu women faced unspeakable atrocities throughout the Islamic reign in the land. They were captured, paraded naked, raped, and taken as sex slaves. Those who were killed were luckier. Muslim soldiers would kill babies with spears, cut out their hearts, and make the mothers eat the organ. Some mothers would get decorated with garlands made from their children’s heads. The harems of Islamic rulers were packed with women they received through marriage, trade, war, or as “gifts.” As Islamic law allows men to have sexual intercourse with their female slaves, it is alleged that one of the most glorified Mughal rulers, Akbar, had over 5000 sex slaves in his harem.
However, the most significant similarity between the Mughals of Medieval India and the Taliban of the present day is the fact that much like historians have whitewashed the sins of the invaders and looters of India, today’s Leftist media is burning the midnight oil to give an image makeover to the jihadis of Afghanistan.
Until 2019, Islamic apologists denied that the Ram Mandir was ever in Ayodhya. In 2050, they will question the existence of the Buddhas of Bamiyan, and in 2070 they will claim that the Twin Towers existed only in fiction. No Islamic jihadis took them down.
Infidel says
The best analogies to draw w/ the Taliban are Mahmoud Ghaznavi, the conqueror who in the 9th century eradicated both Buddhism and Hinduism from all lands north-west of the Hindu Kush, and then ravaged much of north India, destroying hundreds, if not thousands, of temples and massacring thousands of HIndus, Buddhists and Jains
As for the Mughals, both they and their Turkic predecessors b/w them massacred some 150 million HIndus from 1000-1800, over an 800 year period, and destroyed thousands of temples. As far as the concubine slaves go, that hasn’t ended: the stories we see about rape jihad from India are the result of cartels paying muslim youth to win over and convert Hindu and other non-muslim girls to islam, and then dump them, or even worse, chop them up and pack them in suitcases. Prices are set according to the caste of the target – brahmin girls fetching more – and the moment those thugs get paid, they lose interest
If India had a true ‘communal’ Hindu government, they’d go after those syndicates w/ the same ferocity that they’d normally go after pro-Pakistan terrorists. They’d also target imams who issue any fatwas, like the ones on Swami Yati Narsinghnand Saraswati
Roshn says
Hindus should rally behind Yati Narsinghanand Saraswati and create an anti-jihad syndicate in India.All the history textbooks can be contradicted with the accounts from invaders themselves..no need to go to Hindu Nationalists.
Infidel says
Yeah, India needs a real Hindutva party. Not one like the BJP who lets issues fester so that they can be harvested for votes, but a party that will really do things such as:
– Enforce both CAA and NRC
– Terminate government – both central and state – control of Hindu temples
– Update the history education to enforce the teaching of real Indian history, rather than the whitewashed type that glorifies the Mughals
– Remove the words ‘socialist’ and ‘secular’ from the Indian constitution, and restore the ‘Right to Property’
– Pass and enforce laws against death fatwas
– Crack down on human trafficking, and prosecute rape jihad cases under that
– Shut down all islamic institutions in India, such as Aligarh Muslim University and Jamia Milia University
Such a party would put the BJP on the defensive, and make it clear to them that for every N secular votes they win anywhere, they stand to lose just as many, if not more, Hindutva votes
Roshan says
Yes, I hope Modi does not become another Gandhi. Everytime, the Hindu voice has been neutralized to fit the secular narrative.I would just impose emergency and bring in the changes you mentioned above.Also cap the muslim population growth by forcing birth control law and a very very high legal scrutiny for conversion into islam through marriage – as in even if one spouse is Hindu ,other has to convert to Hinduism, else the marriage should be illegal.
Infidel says
Roshan
Fully agree ?
Shrikant Daji Limaye says
When Islam was founded there were at least 4 major religions followed by people. Ilam had no new philosophy to offer. So the spread of Islam was only by force, by destruction, by burning holy scriptures, and by kidnapping the women. When in power, Muslims were never tolerant other religions and cultures. Taliban is the new version of this principle of Islam.
David Grisez says
Islam is a very wicked and evil ideology that has resulted in so much death and misery over the years. And still this evil wicked ideology is doing the same things today that it did over the 14 centuries of its existence. Unfortunately because of the sinful nature of man this ideology that appeals to evil wicked people still exists.
Graham Bryant says
ln part that is true better understood is that the heart of man is deceitful and desperately wicked the western media are a prime example of this
Kepha says
Something tells me that if the Taliban doesn’t descend into civil war and Pakistan-dependent chaos, but manage to overrun Pakistan and invade India, they might well end up with one of their armies crushed and made to go home wearing women’s clothes. I understand the Sikhs did that to an Afghan force once.
Infidel says
I’m assuming that Pakistan falls, but that will be followed by an all out sectarian civil war: it won’t get to India. They may try to unite both Pakistan and Afghanistan for a jihad against India, but if they do, they’ll lose quickly, and then it will be an all out civil war: Panjabis vs Pashtuns vs Tajiks vs Hazaras vs Balochs vs Sindis vs….
tim gallagher says
I can find nothing good about islam. It is a vicious, evil ideology. Of course, some Muslims, ISIS, the Taliban, the extremely hardline Muslims are the worst, but Islam is nothing but murderous evil. At the beginning of the article, where it says that some historians say these murderous Mughals were nation builders, it is a bit like historians who might say a mass murdering scumbag like Stalin was a Russian nation builder or Mao as well when it comes to China. These sadistic scum killed millions of innocent people, so who gives a crap about whether they built anything. None of these evil people are worth celebrating or praising in any way whatsoever.
gravenimage says
+1
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the +1, gravenimage. These truly inhuman nation builder creatures are not people I would ever praise. There have been some very decent nation builders and they are the ones to praise and celebrate.
Roshan says
Some powerful person(may be rich one like Bill Gates) should stand up in USA and Europe and declare Islam is nothing but as a gang of organized criminals.It should come in newspaper headline and we should just declare it without any political correctness whatsoever.
tim gallagher says
I wish that would happen,Roshan. I certainly consider islam to be nothing better than a gang of vicious, murderous criminals, that’s for sure. But most of the powerful people in the world seem to keep telling us to treat islam with respect and keep telling us that islam is basically peaceful. They seem to know absolutely nothing about islam’s evil nature or otherwise they are too cowardly to stand up and tell the truth about islam, even though they do know the truth. Maybe one day what you mention there will actually happen. It definitely should happen.
gravenimage says
Roshan, Bill Gates said that he was thrilled that his daughter was marrying a Muslim.
Graham Bryant says
Well said! islam throughout the whole world is evil the moderate muslims do not oppose the radical extremist ideology of sharia law. lt is apparent that many muslims do not agree with these evil taliban taking their children(as young as 9 years of age-forget about their ‘promise’ to take 15 or 12 year old) as brides this is one main reason the taliban(and isis and the like terrorist groups) subjugate the girls and women so that they shall have no voice to speak and enact any resistance(of course when little resistance comes they stamp it out quickly). Even for them to question islam s extremist evil actions warrants punishment and even death. lt is the same LEADERS of islam that want the whole world to be muslim with sharia law as rule. lt is a gross evil that western nations are appeasing islam. We do not differentiate between the good doctrine and the evil teachings they ar all seen under the category of islam religion and if we say anything against the evil of their quran teaching we are seen as being racist and islamophobe(which is in truth a lie) therefore we can not and do not deal with the evil of islam as we need to do. Westerners are so emotional and for FEAR than deal with the evil they find it easier to give in and let islam have their way – islam knows this full well. And neither is islam qustioned in relation to their quranic writings being the source of their extreme ideology of jihad killings of innocents and the rape of 10s of 1000s of women and children(as young as 4 to 7 years old and above)keeping in mind that evill additions were added to the original peaceful quran from 1979 through ayatollah khomeini of lran(after ousting the Shah of lran).
tim gallagher says
I agree with the points you make, Graham, especially about how many people in the western world are appeasing islam. Everyone should have woken up to Islam’s evil, barbaric nature by now. My attitude is, keep Muslims out of all our non-Muslim countries, and don’t deal with the Muslim enemy at all. Muslims need to be kept in Muslim countries and they can rot away there following the primitive crap that their rotten religion teaches them. Everything Muslims believe in is incompatible with our western way of life.
Roshan says
The rest of the saner world should fight for the right for the person -if there is ever one-to speak up against Islam.Sooner western and free world does it, the better.I would just make conversion to Islam in the West impossible by law.
tim gallagher says
I agree, Roshan, about banning any idiot from converting to islam. As I often say, I simply would not let Muslims, our clear enemy, into any non-Muslim country. Muslims never have any intention of getting along with any non-Muslims. All they want to do is spread islam throughout the world and impose the barbaric load of crap that is Islam on all of us.
gravenimage says
I don’t tnink that any free country can criminalize conversion to Islam–but no western nation should take them in, any more than it should any other Muslims.
Roshan says
We need to define what “free society” is.If Islamic societies can ban conversion from Islam, why can’t free societies do it.If freedom is tolerating the intolerant, then we need to curb such freedom.Also,Islam can be banned for being a political ideology.Leaders have to stop being political correct about it.
Roshan says
Tim.If we can’t ban them at 2% population we can’t ban them at 80% population.If they are not at your knees, they will be at your neck.
Roshan says
Tim,If we can’t ban them at 2% population, we will never be able to do at 80% population without a civil war.If they are not under your knees, they will be at your neck.
Charlie in NY says
You can add the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem to your last paragraph’s list of structures and events subject to Muslim denial.
gravenimage says
Also true, Charlie.
Mural says
Ashlyn Davis, I do not know who you are. But Everytime I read your articles, I only pray that more Indians get a chance to read you, especially Hindu girls. May Lord Shiva bless you infinitely.
gravenimage says
The Taliban: The New Mughals
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Very disturbing–and very important–article from Ashlyn Davis. Muslim goals and tactics have not changed.
Marisa Lawson says
Bill Gates would convert to Islam before he gave a brave speech like that.
gravenimage says
The clueless Bill Gates said he was thrilled to hear that his daughter was marrying a Muslim:
“Bill Gates responds to daughter’s announcement to marry a Muslim”
https://www.siasat.com/bill-gates-thrilled-daughter-set-marry-egyptian-muslim-1811599/
I suppose he has never heard of how many westefrn women are abused by Muslim spouses.
Infidel says
Back in the day, when internationalization was not widespread in software (since Unicode was still in its early stages of implementation on any platform), Arabic was one of the few non-Roman script languages supported by Windows. There was big $$$ to be had from the Gulf sheikhdoms
JimJFox says
Muslim men wishing to marry outside of Islam? First the infidel woman must convert to Islam otherwise the marriage cannot go ahead?
gravenimage says
Not necessarily. Muslim men can marry–and rape–Infidel women. Doesn’t work the other way ’round, though.
Roshan says
Yes, that’s true.When powerful people support evil out of their cowardice, the rest would have to suffer.He gave his daughter to a muslim-what an idiot(and an idiotic daughter as well)!
gravenimage says
Gates is likely ignorant–but he is doing nothing to change his ignorance of Islam.
Infidel says
Aside from his daughter, Gates also heaved a great deal of praise on Sal Khan, the founder of the Khan Academy. I watched one online lesson of Salman – on Chile and the coup that ousted Allende, and it was nothing but Marxist propaganda masquerading as education
gravenimage says
Thanks for that information, Infidel.
Sal Khan has also sneered at concern over the terrible Mumbai Jihad terror attacks, saying they received “too much hype” because the victims were “elite people”. This would be grotesque in any case, but it is also false–some victims were targeted in a hospital and train station.
Then he said that the Pakistani government had nothing to do with the attack–even though Pakistani PM Nawaz Sharif affirmed that it was behind them. He has also repeated the canard that terrorism “has no religion”–even though Jihad terrorists act in the name of Islam.
Nasty stuff.
His “academy” should be let nowhere near students.
Infidel says
His parents were/are Bangladeshi, so his misoindic sentiments should not be a surprise
gravenimage says
Most pious Muslims hate India–Hindus and Sikhs living mostly free from Islamic oppression.
Halaku says
“During the period of Islamic rule, non-Muslims in India were compelled to pay jizya to be allowed to practice their religion.”
This was with qualifications – For instance, their religions and festivals could not be practiced publicly. And the Jiziya had to be paid in a spirit of abject surrender and cowering humility acknowledging the superiority of the Muslim looters.
SAFI says
Correct. Also another reason why I would consider that statement to be somewhat inaccurate is that the punishment for failing to pay jizya isn’t that you won’t be allowed to go to church but rather you’ll have your head chopped off. Therefore, jizya isn’t a tax you pay for the privilege of being allowed to worship freely under an islamic regime, but a tax which an infidel has to pay in order to be allowed to continue to breathe.
gravenimage says
Spot on, SAFI. And Jizya is not even just individual, but bears on the entire community. In other words, if your neighbor doesn’t pay Jizya, you may lose your head even if you have paid Jizya “with submission”. The history of Jizya is full of stories of dhimmi communities scrambling to pay the Jizya of impoverished neighbors.
SAFI says
Yes, but even if you were able to pay this “humiliation tax” in full, to say you could then “freely practice” anything would still be a massive stretch. There were still a number of restrictions infidels had to adhere to in their religious practice all designed to constantly remind them of their inferiority vis-a-vis their Muslim overlords and the superior religion of Islam. Example any church had to be shorter and smaller in size than the nearby mosque and look downtrodden in comparison(of course no new churches allowed to be constructed, if a pre-existing church was “too tall” then it typically got converted into mosque or was destroyed). In fact this also extended to other things like for example christian houses could not overlook muslim houses nor be painted in bright colors like the muslims houses, infidels could only ride donkeys at best but not horses(for Mulsims only), they had to step out of a Muslim’s way when walking on the same road and the list of everyday ritual “humiliations” goes on… and of course they were completely at the mercy of any Muslim who could wrong them with impunity since an infidel’s testimony wasn’t even admissible in court against a Muslim, who on the other hand could falsely accuse you of blaspheming against the “Prophet” earning you a nice decapitation if you were lucky (flaying or impalement if you were not)
Graham Bryant says
ln part that is true better understood is that the heart of man is deceitful and desperately wicked the western media are a prime example of this
gravenimage says
People who follow a creed–Islam–that teaches evil are most apt to be wicked.
Shyam says
All these comments are diverse yet unified in spirit: that Islam isn’t even a religion, it’s a faith that follows hatred capable of wiping out human race altogether or its own followers. Afghan Muslims who are running away from Taliban will slowly but surely commit crimes once they get refugee status
Google Austria crimes u will see most rapes are by afghan Muslims. This tribe cannot stand happy civilized people anywhere. Their mental stability depends on unstable environment around them. Islam is another word for hatred and destruction.
Good more and more people are acknowledging and voicing their feelings about this evil in human cult.
gravenimage says
Islam is a religion by all definitions–it is just an *evil* religion.
Roshan says
Yes in the little Kabul where I stay in USA.Afghans (who were refugees)usually ask me if I am muslim or not.Discrimination is so hard wired into them
Infidel says
Fremont, if you don’t mind me asking?
gravenimage says
Fremont is just a couple of towns south of where I live–the largest Afghan population in the country and where the San Francisco SUV Jihad killer hailed from.
Infidel says
Yeah, I used to live off Dixon Landing Road, the last Milpitas exit before one entered Fremont. Somehow, Fremont always felt a lot more dreary than any Santa Clara city, like Milpitas, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale…
gravenimage says
Yes, I know right where that is, Infidel.
I agree that Fremont can be a bit dreary overall (save for charming Niles)–but the worst thing that has happened there is the huge influx of ravening Muslims.
Roshan says
Yes,It is fremont. We have lots of Afghan uber drivers.They mistake me for a fellow Muslim.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that account, Roshan.
There is also a large, mostly Hindu Indian population there, that much predates the influx of Afghan Muslims.
Roshan says
Yes, that’s true GravenImage.It is good that we have a large infidel population -it makes the place more peaceful and safe.
sidney penny says
“However, the most significant similarity between the Mughals of Medieval India and the Taliban of the present day is the fact that much like historians have whitewashed the sins of the invaders and looters of India, today’s Leftist media is burning the midnight oil to give an image makeover to the jihadis of Afghanistan”
Well said Ashlyn Davis
And now the Taliban are the good guys and the Isis are the bad guys. Really?
gravenimage says
You are right that this is absurd, Sidney. The Taliban and ISIS–and Al Qaeda and other Jihad terror groups–are all of a piece. If they have any differences, it is not ideological; just jockeying for power. Classic Alien vs Predator stuff.
SAFI says
Yes, but even if you were able to pay this “humiliation tax” in full, to say you could then “freely practice” anything would still be a massive stretch. There were still a number of restrictions infidels had to adhere to in their religious practice all designed to constantly remind them of their inferiority vis-a-vis their Muslim overlords and the superior religion of Islam. Example any church had to be shorter and smaller in size than the nearby mosque and look downtrodden in comparison(of course no new churches allowed to be constructed, if a pre-existing church was “too tall” then it typically got converted into mosque or was destroyed). In fact this also extended to other things like for example christian houses could not overlook muslim houses nor be painted in bright colors like the muslims houses, infidels could only ride donkeys at best but not horses(for Mulsims only), they had to step out of a Muslim’s way when walking on the same road and the list of everyday ritual “humiliations” goes on… and of course they were completely at the mercy of any Muslim who could wrong them with impunity since an infidel’s testimony wasn’t even admissible in court against a Muslim, who on the other hand could falsely accuse you of blaspheming against the “Prophet” earning you a nice decapitation if you were lucky (flaying or impalement if you were not)
SAFI says
sorry for double posting accidentally, this was meant as a reply to gravenimage above… if there’s a moderator around you can delete it…
marc says
sure thing