As America is faced with the total collapse of Afghanistan and the U.S. government’s malfeasance in responding to it, the question of Afghan refugees coming to America is a real security issue for state and local governments as well as citizens across the nation.
2 questions:
- How can American citizens trust the government with properly vetting people from any nation when the U.S. government has a track record of abject failure specific to this task?
- How do you vet people who cannot be positively identified by true name and date of birth?
The U.S. Government’s Track Record in “Vetting”
Abdurahman Alamoudi was an Al Qaeda financier who, in 2004, was sentenced to 21 years in federal prison. Yet, Alamoudi served as the Islamic advisor to President Clinton and as a “Goodwill Ambassador” for the U.S. State Department, worked with the Department of Education, and created the Muslim Chaplain Program for the U.S. Department of Defense.
Alamoudi was an immigrant from Eritrea and was given the green light by the State Department, the Secret Service and the FBI.
Perhaps the vetting process is broken.
Between 2003 and 2014 Gulmurod Khalimov participated in 5 U.S. State Department sponsored training programs, including weapons and tactics training. Why is this a problem? Khalimov was a senior ISIS commander upon whom the U.S. government put a $3 million bounty.
The State Department defended themselves by explaining, “All appropriate Leahy vetting was undertaken in advance of this training.”
Perhaps the vetting process is broken.
How Well Will the U.S. government Vet Refugees from Afghanistan?
Those who served honorably with U.S. troops and/or as a part of the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan who renounce sharia and adopt American principles for their lives should be given an opportunity to come to America.
Direct testimony is needed by those who served with the individual “refugees” because people from Afghanistan are rarely capable of passing a true background check. This is because there is often no way to confirm the individuals true name or simple identifiers like a date of birth.
For security reasons, the question of how the United States will vet people from certain countries must be answered before admitting anyone from those countries.
This is the reason that in 2016 Understanding the Threat recommended Mr. Trump suspend all immigration into the United States for 3-5 years until the U.S. could produce a viable vetting process for immigrants from many of the nations openly hostile to the U.S., limit the points of entry to one per coast, and standardize security, health, and skills screening.
State Level Vetting
If the federal government demonstrates – as it has – it is incapable of vetting people coming into America, refugees or otherwise, how will states vet them?
Russell Smith, the CEO of Refugee Services of Texas issued a press release on August 16, 2021 stating Texas is prepared to receive hundreds of refugees from Afghanistan.
The press release also states: “All Afghans who have applied for Special Immigrant Visas (SIV’s) will undergo security background checks and health screenings.”
How will Texas vet these people? UTT reached out to Mr. Smith, but as of the time of publishing this article we have not received any feedback.
If the United States federal government is not capable of creating a vetting process to keep Al Qaeda and ISIS leaders out of America, how well do you think they are doing vetting refugees from Afghanistan?
Savvy Kafir says
In a sane world, the vetting process would be very simple and very effective — no Muslims allowed to live in the U.S. or any other Western nation. Even if they aren’t terrorists, their mere presence here helps to bring about the Islamization of our countries. That applies to secular, moderate Muslims as well as the hardcore Allah junkies, because once the Muslim population reaches critical mass, the moderates are always pushed aside by the True Believers, who end up running the show by using violence and threats of violence to silence any dissent.
gravenimage says
+1
Roshan says
The moderates will stand up and clap when the hardcores march forward brutalizing everyone.Some of them will play victim too.We cannot trust any of them -not a single one of them- until they convert out of this barbaric cult.
Graham Bryant says
One way to vet them is to take the husband of the wife with a niqab or the burqa they are the extremist element!!
Check Burry says
+ 1000
If we mere citizens can see it why cannot our leaders?
gravenimage says
There is ignorance, and then there is *willful* ignorance.
Hank says
Vetting is probably not a capability seeing how the withdrawal planning and logistics was done in such an incompetent, bungled, wasteful way. End result: more Islamization
Check Burry says
The English channel is full of discarded passports, the Gulf of Mex may be similar.
Infidel says
Not likely, since most people entering from Mexico come overland. I guess one could check out the Del Rio sector of the Rio Grande
Infidel says
Given this current fiasco w/ the vetting, I’m just rooting for US non-muslim citizens to make it home. That’s it! Since we can’t vet them, I’m all for the Taliban inadvertently helping us by preventing any Afghan muslims from leaving
Infidel says
What is UTT?
gravenimage says
University of Texas at Tyler, Infidel. The University of Texas has several campuses around the state.
James Lincoln says
Infidel,
UTT refers to John Guandolo’s website Understanding The Threat.
gravenimage says
James, you are right.
Sorry for my error, Infidel.
Walter Sieruk says
This is a very serious problem for the security and safety of all American citizens who are now living in their Homeland USA.
For among those refugees from Afghanistan there be a number of jihadist “sleepers” just waiting and scheming for the right time and place in an American citiy to carry out mass -murder and destruction of Islam’s violent and deadly jihad.
The most we ,as typical Americans can do is not to live in fear and be afraid to go to different places in do different things in the country but still if something seem or looks wrong then go an inform the police about it .
As it had been said “If you see something , say something.” To put it in another way , the wisdom of Thomas Jefferson does apply now even more than it did in his own time.
Fpr Mr. Jefferson had written “Let the eye of vigilance never be closed.”
gravenimage says
Vetting the Unvettable
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Spot on from John Guandolo.
Even if officials really were intent on properly vetting these migrants–pretty damn questionable given the history of this sort of thing–how would they even go about it in the case of Afghanistan?
Some of these Afghans have papers and records, but many of them do not. And the place they came from, never known for its good record keeping nor its opposition to Jihad terrorists at the best of times, is now in the hands of the bloody Taliban. They are not going to help us vet Afghans trying to flee them.
Then, Biden and others have already said that none of these Afghans are actually going to be sent back to Afghanistan.
So this is really just kabuki theater.
Terry Gain says
The concept of vetting people with no social media background is itself delusional. First of all, who doesn’t know the correct answers at this point. Secondly there are many cases of second generation Muslims who revert to true Islam. The benefits of Muslim immigration, if any, are not worth the risk.
gravenimage says
And its not as though anyone can check for criminal records with the defunct Afghan government at this point, either (even assuming they were arresting Jihadists).
Check Burry says
1st time Ive seen 2 knobs and a prick in same picture.
I seldom if ever word my posts like this, but it is impossible to be polite when I read that a terrorist financier became a presidential advisor.
Linde Barrera says
Does anyone remember why the Clinton Foundation accepted $21 million from the kingdom of Saudi Arabia? Could that have had anything to do with accepting more Muslims into the US and harnessing the Clinton influence to spread the idea that “Islam is a religion of peace”?
Does anyone recall why US troops went into Afghanistan in the first place? I remember under George W. Bush the US went into Iraq to get Saddam Hussein and his non existent weapons of mass destruction, and also “to bring democracy to that country” (what a joke, they did not want democracy, they wanted Sharia Law to govern their land).
I personally believe the US went into Afghanistan to give the elites of the Military Industrial Complex the opportunity to make millions of dollars in government contracts
from all the weapons and devices used in
Afghanistan. Please correct me if my premise is wrong by giving me proof of something other than what I stated.
gravenimage says
Linde, the Taliban had given Osama bin Laden asylum, and he plotted the 9/11 attack from there. It actually did make sense to take out the Taliban and try to track down Osama bin Laden at the time (although it turns out that bin Laden then decamped to Pakistan).
The mistake was in staying 20 years and trying to civilize Afghanistan–always a hopeless goal.
OLD GUY says
Vetting should be simple, close the border to islamic countries and their citizens. Enforce our border and immigration LAWS. It’s not hard to do.