Charles Saint-Prot is by no means alone. The list of intellectuals who have capitulated to the jihad, or pretend that it doesn’t exist, is long on both sides of the Atlantic, and growing.
“The shipwreck of Charles Saint-Prot, apologist of Islam,” translated from “Le naufrage de Charles Saint-Prot, apologiste de l’islam,” by Platon du Vercors, Riposte Laïque, September 4, 2021 (thanks to Medforth):
I have had the dubious honor of attending Charles Saint-Prot lectures on two occasions, with a fairly large space of time in between. The absurd thesis of his work is that on the whole, Islam is a harmless religion. And if there are any lingering hiccups, they shouldn’t be taken too seriously. Moreover, his unconditional support for Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi regime has led him to hate his Syrian Baathist rival, Bashar al-Assad. And this hatred, without serious foundation, has prompted him to support those who want to overthrow him. Logic. We can check it here.
And for that he expresses many untruths, and not only on Syria. Mr. Saint-Prot turns out to be a very bad liar. Lying well is not for everyone. Not everyone is François Mitterrand or Jacques Chirac.
At a recent conference, he rejected the notion of Judeo-Christian culture. Why not? Christianity and Judaism have indeed clearly evolved in two thousand years, moving away from each other, Christianity taking its independence from its mother religion, which itself has moved far away from the original Judaism via the Talmud.
But he proposed instead the term Islamo-Christianity! For Mr. Saint-Prot, they are two sister religions with very few differences. And he asserts that Islam did not harbor any particular hostility against Christianity. It is true that Islam seems to have more resentment against the Jews. But that does not prevent the fate of Eastern Christians from being appalling. And very revealing, too.
Islam cannot stand anything foreign to it anyway, especially in the religious realm. Wherever it settles, it tries to erase all traces of another civilization, of another culture (the destruction of the Buddhas in Afghanistan remaining the peak of this state of mind). Endless expansion is the mode of existence of Islam. It is still astonishing to me that some people still do not see this. Islam is imperialist, and it is indeed its necessary mode of survival. Without the threat of death for apostasy, with real freedom of worship, hardly anyone would be a Muslim.
Coming back to Charles Saint-Prot, he now proposes an economic alliance with the Maghreb countries, particularly Morocco, convinced that France’s future is here. In fact, he especially wants to flee the EU (which is understandable) and takes refuge in a fantasized return to modern French North Africa (A.F.N). Dreams, fantasies, but nothing serious.
The desire to exonerate Islam prevents lucid analysis. Islam is an evil with many harmful faces. To ignore it is to be seriously mistaken.
Ecosse1314 says
Probably a vichy supporting nazi.
Wellington says
Well, Ecosse1314, most likely on the Far Right or the Far Left. Makes little difference respecting the valuing of liberty and the possession of common sense.
Ecosse1314 says
Agreed often it is very hard to tell the difference beteen the hard left and the extreme right
Ray Jarman says
Maybe he should put his words into action and move to Afghanistan for a while. In fact I bet it would be for a very sort time and he would only be required to purchase a one-way ticket to Kabul.
somehistory says
satan the devil whispers in his ears and his empty brain laps up the horrific lies.
Every little while, some idiot expresses this demonic propaganda, likening Christianity…based on the teachings and commands and example of Christ Jesus… to islam’s filth that originated straight from satan and passed along to the mass-murdering, raper of children, who was a sex mad thieving slave trader, lying sack of slug slime, maggot producing son of satan; and on the possibility he didn’t really exist, this same description fits those who **invented** the slime maggot..
The God of the Jews, man’s Creator, is the Same God that Christians know and worship through His Holy Son, to Whom all of the Hebrew Prophets pointed and about Whom they wrote, and for Whom they looked with happy expectation. Many Christians, in fact, try to keep the Ten Commandments given to the Jews through Moses.
mozlums worship satan the devil…the arch enemy of our Creator, and of mankind as well.
islam and Christianity are nothing, whatsoever, alike; and it’s truly disgusting that some who believe themselves to be smart and knowledgeable spew the lies again and again.
satan his blinded this idiot to the Truth.
born saturday says
indeed more and more of this kind of people in the west and more and more of them which makes one wonder who has the money to buy all this people to fake all this and pull all this propaganda??? any rich muslim people involved???
gravenimage says
French intellectual calls for replacement of term ‘Judeo-Christian’ term with ‘Islamo-Christian’
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Charles Saint-Prot is un idiot. He wants to jettison the influences of Judaism for the horrors of Islam–or else he is claiming that our civilized lands are *already* based on Islam, which is utterly false, both historically and philosophically.
French intellectuals used to mean giants like Voltare, who also largely understood the threat of Islam. Now it’s more non-entities like Charles Saint-Prot.
Charles Saint-Prot has specialized in Islam. This fool has claimed that the counter to “sectarian extermism” is the “Islamic tradition”–without apparently having learned that the “Islamic tradition” is all about Jihad and the imposition of Shari’ah.
He has said that Jihad terror is ignorance of “the ignorance of what is the true message of Islam, which is the religion of the happy medium, of tolerance and of the refusal of extremes”.
He also said this: “the religious pretext is, therefore, an imposture as well as the references to the conflicts in the Middle East because these extremists have never been seen militating for Palestine or against the intervention of the United States in Iraq”. Of course, the idea that Jihadists are not waging violent Jihad against Israel and the US in Iraq is utter falsehood. (Note also the implication that this is perfectly fine with him).
This is all either willful ignorance or else deliberate whitewash.
Wellington says
“This is all either willful ignorance or else deliberate whitewash.”
Seconded, gravenimage. Whichever, monstrously, even lethally, erroneous.
gravenimage says
+1
mortimer says
Agree with GI: it is ‘deliberate whitewash’ of Islam. I have spent more hours than I wish to reveal studying Islamic sources texts and have come to the conclusion that there is practically nothing in common historically, ethically or religiously between Islam and Christianity. The Koran contradicts about 95% or more of the New Testament.
The Koran uses the names of the Jewish prophets and then mischaracterizes their biographies and even eviscerates their teachings. 1) The Golden Rule is the key ethical principle of Christianity, but it is totally absent from Islam, 2) Islam makes revenge compulsory, but Christianity prohibits it, 3) Islam ‘decrees’ sex slavery, , but Christianity makes that ‘living in sin’ … i.e. a mortal sin automatically causing excommunication 4) Islam contradicts and mischaracterizes almost all of Christianity’s theology, 5) Islamic history is filled with enmity and destruction visited upon Christians by the Muslims state whenever Christians have the misery to live under Islamic rule.
There is practically nothing in Christianity that Islam supports or shares.
Charles Saint-Prot is clearly being paid to whitewash Islam. His claim is ab initio absurd, because he cannot adduce any evidence to support it, besides to repeat and repeat the claim itself. Repetition of a claim doesn’t support the claim, but is used as a distraction from the fact that their is no evidential support for the clalim.
Charles Saint-Prot is without support and thus cannot be proved. Moreover, his claim that ‘Islam is harmless’ or benign is solidly exposed as a lie by Islamic history’s death toll of 270 million kafir victims.
A religion that produces over 270 million dead bodies is not a ‘religion of peace’.
mortimer says
correction: Charles Saint-Prot’s CLAIM of similarity is without support and thus it cannot be proved.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Mortimer–except that Charles Saint-Prot may not be paid to spout this vicious nonsense. All too many of these fools really believe their own whitewash of Islam–Saint-Prot has been doing this for decades now.
Wellington says
An intellectual? God save us from the intellectuals. As JFK put it, he had rarely met an intellectual with both feet on the ground.
Wellington says
“The desire to exonerate Islam prevents lucid analysis. Islam is an evil with many harmful faces. To ignore it is to be seriously mistaken.”
Would be deuce difficult to find a more accurate assessment of anything, any time, anywhere.
Lavéritétriomphera says
I don’t give a damn about Charles Saint Pro. As far as I know, he is a relatively unknown figure and I never saw him on television unlike Eric Zemmour.
mortimer says
Charles Saint-Prot reminds me of Charles Ducaille, a physician who was paid by the Saudi Royal family to whitewash Islam using science. His pseudo-scientific concoctions in a famous book are still quoted by many Muslims.
The far-fetched conclusions of Bucallie have been mocked and called ‘Bucaille-ism’.
Charles Saint-Prot similarly cannot defend his thesis that Christianity and Islam are similar. He would be swept out the door in five minutes in a debate on this topic with the mighty Robert Spencer.
Lavéritétriomphera says
But he is not the only one and I don’t want to loose time on this matter. There are some, on the all side of the religious and political spectrum, who believe or pretend to believe that Christianity and Judaism are compatible with Islam! They should speak after reading the Islamic scriptures. I understand they are politicians, not expert on Islam.
gravenimage says
Yes–there are a great number of these fools.
Keys says
Remember the Three Stooges ?
I think this might be Curly’s son going incognito. Professor Curly would probably have a good chance of getting a Chair at any Ivy League School.
Where’s Moe when you need him !
tim gallagher says
What a moron this “intellectual” is. Brings to mind that quote, which usually seems to be attributed to George Orwell, which says that some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals would believe them. On the TV news last night in Australia, they mentioned that the trial, in France, was beginning for the terrorist attacks from 2015. I forget about the scale of these terrorist attacks, so I was stunned when they said that 180 people were murdered in those attacks, all on one day, with 90 killed just at that theatre in Paris. I had forgotten how big the death toll was. Islam, what a disgusting, disgraceful ideology it is. Straight from the Devil has to be where this evil ideology originates.
PMK says
Just two weeks ago, a Canadian imam declared the Jews and Christians ‘are our enemies’
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/08/canada-muslim-cleric-hails-taliban-victory-says-jews-and-christians-are-our-enemies
A French intellectual who yearns for the time when the French colonized North Africa or an Imam who preaches what is said in the Koran?
What a choice!
mortimer says
PMK is correct. Islam contains a doctrine called ‘AL WALAA WAL BARAA’ which teaches that Muslims must love fellow Muslims and hate all non-Muslims ‘for the sake of Allah’. W-B is clearly opposed to the Universal Golden Rule preached by Christianity.
Keys says
It occurs to me that Al Walaa Wal Baraa is very similar to the Leftist (and Alinsky) doctrine that one must always punish enemies of the cause by making the punishment personal.
On the other hand one must always reward friends of the cause whether their actions are right or wrong. Never punish friends of the cause.
The only exception to this doctrine is when the cause may be harmed.
PMK says
Christianity was founded by Jews who heard the words of Jesus. If Islam and Christianity are connected, then why do Muslims routinely kill Christians for the sin of not worshipping Allah?
gravenimage says
+1
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Look no further than Imam Pope Francis.
Perhaps his motivation is antisemitic in nature, as well.???
Infidel says
Great way to get Christians to be hated by more people than just muslims and Leftists
Kepha says
The credibility of the term “Judaeo-Christian” rets on the following:
1. Jesus is a Jew, and so were the first Christians. You cannot read the first chapter of the New Testament and conclude that Jesus is anything other than a Jew.
2. Christians and Jews share the Hebrew Bible as Scripture.
3. Where Christians might dispute the readings of certain isolated texts of the bible, but do not see the Old Testament (I write from a Christian perspective) as corrupted; nor are Christians allowed to excuse themselves from the use of the Old Testament.
4. The Christian belief in Messiah (Christos) is admitted on all hands to come from Judaism; the division between the two is over whether the Messiah has come or not.
This being said, I am not completely comfortable with the term “Judaeo-Christian”, even if I understand the links between the two. From the Hebrew Bible, Judaism derives a complex code of conduct crystalized in the Mishnah and Gemara; Christianity gets a Messianic faith crystalized in the person of Jesus Christ and recorded in the New Testament.
I cannot see an analogous link between Islam and Christianity, and only a few points of contact:
1. Islamic scholars unanimously claim the OT and NT are hopelessly corrupted, and excuse Muslims from reading them–even to the point of forbidding their use.
2. The Islamic concept of the person and work of Jesus Christ is hopelessly garbled. On the one hand, he is the “Messiah”; but on the other, he is a lesser prophet than Muhammad.
3. A Muslim reading the New Testament may possibly recognize that his doctrine of al-Djallal maybe derived from a hearing of II Thessalonians 2:1-12. However, he cannot accept the NT message of God becoming man and working redemption through his death on the cross without ceasing to be meaningfully Muslim.
4. A Christian can read the Qur’an and agree that there is one God (one in substance; three in persons–which Muslims would deny) and that there will be a day of resurrection and judgment. There would be little else.
5. Many of the links between Christianity and Islam are not a common Scripture that is read by both, but a folklore which Islam mistook for Scripture.
6. On the other hand, Christians may take note of such things as the Druze cult of al-Hakim, the Ali Ilahi and similar sects, the honor given to certain pirs in South Asia as Islam’s hunger for a mediator–a hunger that cannot be satisfied without the Christ of the New Testament.
nicholas tesdorf says
‘Islamo-Christian’ is not a descriptive term, it is a conflict. Charles Saint-Prot has not noticed that Muslims are instructed by the Qur’an to hate all non-Muslims. There are about three dozen verses that tell believers to fight against non-Muslims, and about 500 that speak of their place in Hell.
James Lincoln says
So Charles Saint-Prot is described as a French intellectual.
According to Merriam-Webster, the essential meaning of intellectual is:
1: of or relating to the ability to think in a logical way
2: involving serious study and thought
3: of a person : smart and enjoying serious study and thought
a rather intellectual poet
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intellectual
I don’t see how this particular Frenchmen qualifies.
Thinker1 says
Doublethink and Doublespeak will be required. Read Orwell’s “1984” and see how prescient he was.
Justis says
This man is a disgusting disgraceful poster child of a satan loving maggot who capitulated to the evils of Islam.
Islam should never be used in the same sentence with Judaism and Christianity, especially by an irrational scum of the earth lunatic full of hatred for his own religion if he has one.
He shouldn’t be giving the time to spread his lunacy.
Jim says
I am no expert, but it does seem that intellectuals are constantly trying to harmonize incompatible ideas. Einstein showed that time and space are aspects of the same thing. He tried to find the single set of rules harmonizing and explaining the macro and micro, or quantum physics and relativity. In the social sciences, rational choice theories try to show that seemingly irrational behavior is really rational in its essence. Then in literature, Goethe’s Faust spent his life doing bad things, but in the end, he was redeemed because he had never ceased to strive. Somehow, the bad things he did were ok, because he was always trying. In the area of religion, the liberation theologians seem to think that Marx and Christ are compatible in some way. And Pope Francis keeps trying to find the good in Islam and its compatibility with Christianity. So, perhaps this French thinker imagines he is doing some sort of harmonizing of opposites as well. But we have to remember that it does not always work. Einstein never managed to develop a theory to combine the findings of quantum physics and relativity. The Pope has still not gotten Islam to settle down and be friendly. And probably an Islamo-Christian synthesis will not work out either. It seems to me that Stalin tried to promote the Churches to get support for his war effort, but Stalinism was still incompatible with Christianity. Some ideas are just incompatible and will never be synthesized. Including Islam and Christianity
Hank says
He doesn’t seem to know his left hand from his right hand. He reminds me of these crazy artists doing and exhibiting all kinds of outrageous things to get public attention. I don’t remember which artist, but he canned his poo and exhibited the many cans in some Art gallery. If I am not mistaken these cans were distributed and exhibited in other big Art exhibitions for many years. The exhibit of his canned poo became world famous.
Hank says
Found it.
https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/manzoni-artists-shit-t07667
gravenimage says
Sad, Hank. This sort of thing is the reason I am often loath to say I am an artist. There was a time when art was noble–now too often it is just intended to shock whatever is left of the bourgeoisie. Often it is nothing but sh*t–quite literally, in this case.
somehistory says
Some years ago, I entered an art contest at a small gallery. I admired some of the other work…better than my own piece, to me.
The winner: some idiot had made male parts out of ordinary objects…as an artist, you are likely able to imagine of what it consisted…Truly disgusting.
As is the stuff Hank commented on.
“I may not know art, but I know what I like.” And disgusting ain’t it.
gravenimage says
Sorry to hear this, Somehistory–but not surprised.
And now so often “art” is just leftist political activism, with not even a nod to having any sort of artistic merit.
James Lincoln says
gravenimage,
You are a notable exception.
Your artwork is fantastic!
somehistory says
Thank you, g. I didn’t think for a moment that I would win, but that a couple of other paintings really deserved to. It was disappointing.
I cannot imagine anyone wanting to hang the “winner” on a wall in their home and have family and guests view it.
And the “soup can” kind of art, to me is not.
gravenimage says
Thank you, James and Somehistory.