It is extremely unlikely that any Australian authorities have pondered, even for a moment, the question of why Momena Shoma is proud of what she did. They probably just think she is mentally ill, and that’s that. The possibility that this pride is inspired by an ideology that other Australians hold is too terrible for them to contemplate.
“Terrorist proudly admits to committing another attack while in a Melbourne prison,” by Serena Seyfort, 9News, October 20, 2021 (thanks to Henry):
A convicted terrorist has admitted to committing another terrorist act – this time while in a Melbourne prison – because she is proud of it, a court has heard.
Momena Shoma, 28, faced the Victorian Supreme Court today, pleading guilty to engaging in a terrorist act while incarcerated at Ravenhall Corrections Centre.
Shoma attacked a fellow prisoner in October last year, stabbing the victim with a pair of garden shears….
Shoma’s lawyer Tim Marsh told the court his client was proudly pleading guilty to the crime.
“The reason why Ms Shoma makes those admissions is because she’s proud of what she did,” he said.
Shoma is serving a 42-year sentence in the Dame Phyllis Frost women’s prison with a non-parole period of 31.5 years after engaging in a terror act in February 2019.
She was in Australia on a student visa for eight days when she attacked her homestay host with a kitchen knife.
Shoma chanted “Allahu Akbar” as she stabbed him in the neck in front of his five-year-old daughter.
The court heard Shoma attempted to declare her allegiance to Allah from prison in letters addressed to her father and sister….
mortimer says
Muslims who imitate Mohammed love and admire Mohammed as the ideal man. However, contemporaries of Mohammed diagnosed him as a madman.
This point (of Mohammed’s recognized madness) is lost on most Muslims or just swept aside. Any Muslim who imitates the aggressive behaviors of Mohammed may not actually be mad, but by imitating the madman Mohammed, those Muslims will APPEAR to be mad.
The entire Islamic culture normalizes the OCD rituals, madness and separation from reality of Mohammed.
Frank Anderson says
honored and respected mortimer, could we dismiss all the atrocities and brutality of those following Hitler, Himmler, Heydrich and others to the madness of their leaders? After all, the Treaty of London (1945) abrogated (destroyed) ex post facto, the defense of superior orders and now even in the United States governs our law. The result of that change is that every person is responsible for his own acts and cannot claim instruction or inspiration as an excuse. Sometime, the law actually makes sense when it is enforced.
I could argue that the change does not violate the “ex post facto” clause in the Constitution because the law is clarified rather than changed by the Treaty. In any event, the defense of superior orders does not work in the US. See Howard v. United States, 711 F.2d 729 (5th Cir. 1983).
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
If you just look at the ghoulish ways muslinas are forced to dress, one could easily conclude that they are participating in a mass delusion of insanity. When one dresses as if every day is Halloween, you know something is terribly amiss. Freddy Krueger would be proud, or, should I say, Mohammed.
Hank says
“When one dresses as if every day is Halloween…”
They say that Halloween is the Devils birthday. She just wants everyday to be a celebration.
gravenimage says
On Halloween the scary stuff is make-believe. Not so with Islam, though…
tim gallagher says
Even though I live in Australia, I often only hear about some cases here at Jihad Watch. With these Muslim crimes, there are plenty of them, so you can lose track of them. I suspect it is the same in many countries. I didn’t hear about this court appearance on the radio news and I don’t watch Channel 9 TV news, so I missed this. I do remember this Muslim piece of crap from back when she stabbed the man whose home she was staying in, as a student boarder, in front of his child. I didn’t realise she had received a 42 year sentence (well, 31.5 years anyway).. That is great news. The obvious blunder was to actually let this piece of shit into Australia at all. 8 days after she arrived she attacked the man in his home. I recall that she came to Australia with the intention of carrying out a terrorist attack. What a blunder to have let this evil maggot into the country. So this evil piece of crap is in Australia for 8 days, commits a terrorist stabbing, and the Australian taxpayers get to pay for her to be fed in prison for the next 40 years. What a terrible and costly blunder to have let her into the country.
Frank Anderson says
T.G., Greetings. I suggest it is worth remembering that Australia ratified the Treaty of London to become a member of the United Nations. That makes the Treaty the supreme law in Australia as it does every other member. You might ask yourself why the “superior orders” defense works when the action comes from “inspiration” instead of “orders”; and allows violent criminals to escape. Think about it for a minute?
tim gallagher says
I’d say that that’s a problem, Frank. I find the UN a total pain, butting in everywhere, and I think many people do. Until I read this report here at Jihad watch i hadn’t realised what a tough jail term this scumbag had got. It is a damned shame that she managed to get into Australia at all, but we do take in huge numbers of university students from overseas, mainly from China I think. That is a big issue out here. The universities love the money these overseas students pay, but many people believe that the academic standards of our universities are being lowered to help students who often have very poor English language skills pass the courses because of the money they pay the universities.
Frank Anderson says
T.G., we agree about the UN. What I would like to show is that a result of any country joining the UN by ratifying the Treaty is that country’s law no longer permits or accepts the defense of superior ORDERS. A person could claim that he feared retaliation for failing to obey an illegal order to escape the penalty for violating that law. Until 1945 the law in many countries was not clear, and some people escaped punishment by claiming receipt of an order they feared to disobey. The Treaty of London, which is accepted by every country that joins the UN removes that defense.
Taking the argument further, a believer must obey islamic law or face a penalty, often death. Claiming that fear of death might have caused some to escape before 1945 under the theory of duress. But not after 1945. Every person is responsible under the law of the country, not the UN, for their own acts, regardless of who gave the order or inspired the violation.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the information, Frank. I was unaware of any of that. I suppose that since you are a lawyer you might be more likely to know about that. I doubt whether many people down here in Australia are aware of any of that. I will inform people I know about that. We do get some weak sentences for some would be terrorists here in Australia, but, generally, anything that is related to terrorism cops a lengthy term in prison, as was the case with this evil woman, which is a very good thing.
Frank Anderson says
Tim, as part of my years of work to rebuild and go after the corrupt people who destroyed my life I wrote 2 research papers with several lawyers and professors guiding my work. One was Nuremberg Rule in the Workplace. It was a battle plan for litigation that went all the way to the US Supreme Court, which the arrogant people who destroyed me never expected me to do. After all, I lost all my family, everything else, and was reduced to digging ditches. But I came back and exposed them where they can never be covered again. And by publishing the work, made it just about impossible for them to do to others what they did to me, for obeying the law.
tim gallagher says
Frank, I’m glad you had the resilience to fight back after all the crap that was done to you. A hell of a lot of people would have just folded and been unable to make a come back and fight back . I hope things are going reasonably well for you now.
Frank Anderson says
Tim, If you want to see tough, read Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning. It is a very short book. In paperback it is less than 150 pages, or so, telling about his and his family’s “arrest”, removal to a death camp, their murder and his misery. Frankl was an MD/Psychiatrist. The reason he survived the pure misery and horror was to find out why other inmates did not commit suicide. All they had to do is step across a wire about 3 meters/10 feet from the fence; and the tower guard would shoot them dead on the spot. By many miracles, Frankl survived and used what he learned to help others survive and recover from their death camps. “I can survive any HOW if I have a WHY!”
My why has been to make it much less likely anyone else will be abused as I was. Obviously my discussing the experience is the only way I know to help others learn what I did not know and had to learn the hard way. A friend, one of my many unnumbered and unranked “mothers by choice” gave me a copy of Frankl’s book when I was fighting hard to stay alive. That was about 1989, the year my official adopted mother died. Seems to be working today. There are still good things for US to do, and good people to be helped.
tim gallagher says
On Frankl’s book, there was a copy of it that I noticed here at my place several years ago. It might be still here. I do tend to have quite a few books sitting around here. i think one of my sisters owned it and I ended up with it when she was offloading some books.. I will look around and see if I can find it. I never bothered to read it, but have certainly heard about it before, many years ago. Thanks for the tip, Frank.
Frank Anderson says
Tim, many things made big differences in my survival to be here now. This book, Patrick McGoohan’s Prisoner series, and a large number of good friends helped in major ways. I think Frankl deserves recognition with the greats of psychology and psychiatry, Freud, Adler, Jung and Maslow.
gravenimage says
It’s an important book, Tim.
abu taleb says
Because she is proud of what she did, the authority will claim that she is mentally ill therefore she will be freed from jail and will receive fund from tax payer for her mental condition. And the left authority is also proud for what they are doing.
That is why Allah says muslims are the thinking people (and non beievers are stupid).
gravenimage says
Australia: Muslima who stabbed man while screaming ‘Allahu akbar’ stabs fellow prisoner, is ‘proud of what she did’
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Of course she is. She is a threat to her fellow prisoners and no doubt to guards as well. She should be in solitary for their protection.
tim gallagher says
She certainly sounds like a hell of a risk, gravenimage. 40 years in solitude sounds like a good sentence for this disgusting Muslim woman. It’s such a shame she made it into Australia under the pretence of wanting to study here when I remember reading that she always intended to launch some kind of terrorist attack once she had made it into Australia.
gravenimage says
Yes–awful. I’m sorry she is in your civilized nation, Tim. I’m not usually a big fan of solitary but it is warranted if she is an ongoing threat to those around her. Then, she should be deported once she finishes her sentence.
Walter Sieruk says
That woman is proud of what she did because she proves is devout Muslim who was following the instruction of the Qu’ran which reads in Surah 9:123. “O you who believe ! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you…”
The terrible reality is that stabbing someone who is not a Muslim with a knife is ia very effective way of showing that “disbeliever” harshness.
There are many other places found in the Qu ran that likewise instructs of violence and killing for the cause of Islam .as in, for example, Surah 2:191. 4:89. 9:5, 111,112. 47:4.
What a brutal, bloody cruel, violent dangerous and deadly religion Islam, truly, is
notnolib says
On the plus side, she was wearing her “mask”, a big plus in Australia today.
gravenimage says
🙂
OLD GUY says
Proud to do HARM or KILL. What a religion, Islam provides a hook for the crazy to hang their hat on. Evan the death of my enemy as a military personnel would not make me proud. There is definitely something wrong with a person or group who’s main ideology is to due harm to others.
Hank says
“She was in Australia on a student visa for eight days when she attacked her home-stay host with a kitchen knife.”
She is on a student visa from where???? The sentence does not seem to include the word deportation either. Australia needs a Trump travel ban on travel to Australia for citizens of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen carrying the Islamic pathogen. Islam is absolutely not compatible with any non-Muslim host nation. Not even in a prison. I guess prison meals now have to be changed from Pork and Beans to Beef a La Carte, daily Quran jihad readings by Anjem Choudary, a Muslim prayer room constructed for the next 40 years and migration of her Jihad family to be with the poor terrorist. What a waste of resources.
“Donald Trump called for “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on””
gravenimage says
Momena Shoma is from Bangladesh. She obviously came to Australia intending to murder people there. if she ever gets out of prison she needs to be deported.
Manohar Lal Bhargava says
The world is full of criminals of type.I am shocked that these criminals become son in laws of Tax payers.WHY? Let the human rights promoters pay for free board,lodging,transport,security,Medical facility ad other needs of prisoners
A survey on number prisoners and all incl expenses will be frightening but needs a revision.The net result is ever increase in criminals in any country.This is the gift to the world.Why not put them to hard labor and a treatment that will frighten a criminal to re attempt a crime.Who will be witness to terror activities ? Result is that most of the terrorists go Scot free.An intentional Murder will be proved as accidental death by advocates .Please advise How can a Murder by Terrorist be proved intentional Murder or planned Murder.A mass murderer does not get the punishment commensurate with the crime
Punishment must serve as a deterrent to crime and not promoter
our legal system needs proof.and failing its satisfaction the accused gets free.Same applies for those who adulterate eatables,drinks etc do not get death sentence even if their act causes death of innocents.Pray revise and such acts need capital punishment and not mercy..