This dishonors the memory of the people who gave their lives to save Vienna and Christian Europe in 1683.
Get the reality of what happened in Austria in 1683 in The History of Jihad.
“Experts criticize the one-sided representation of Islam in school books,” translated from “Experten kritisieren einseitige Darstellung des Islams in Schulbüchern,” Exxpress, October 23, 2021 (thanks to Medforth):
Within the framework of the “Islam Studies”, scholars from different fields have now analyzed Austrian schoolbooks with regard to their portrayal of different religious groups. Their conclusion: While Islam and its history are portrayed through rose-colored glasses, Christianity and its heritage are described rather disparagingly, in some cases with negative remarks.
“Originally, we wanted to know how Islam is presented in our textbooks. But we quickly expanded the topics to include Christianity, gender, family and others,” Eleonore Witt-Dörring from CSPI Austria tells eXXpress. According to the analysis, there are striking differences in presentation between individual religious groups, according to which Islam tends to be presented positively, while Christianity tends to be presented negatively in common textbooks.
These views can be found in all subjects, such as German language, geography and history. In this context, the development of textbook content over the past decades is very interesting: Whereas 30 years ago a lot of continuous text and factual, objective history were common, “today we find books with many illustrations, mnemonics, and objectivity is increasingly being replaced by opinion-forming propaganda”, says the Islam expert.
Specifically, the experts criticize the portrayal of historical events. For example, the Crusades are portrayed very negatively in the books, and the reconquest of Mecca by the Prophet Mohammed as a purely peaceful act. “In addition, the teachings of Islam are sometimes misrepresented,” the expert emphasizes. She is also critical of the portrayal of the headscarf. For example, one textbook says that many Muslim girls and women wear a headscarf for religious reasons, which is why they are “mobbed by some people”. This is not wrong in principle, but it is one-sided: “The reality is that girls without headscarves are also bullied in Austrian schools.
The description of the Ottoman siege of Vienna in a school textbook, for example, is also problematic. There it says, among other things, “2500 colorful tents (…) Oxen, people with turbans……. strange smells they perceive. The Orient with its splendor camped before them as in a shop window.”
revereridesagain says
Apparently the Austrians are either slow learners or swift forgetters. Didn’t Adolf Hitler get his start within their environs?
They’ll be whitewashing the Holocaust next. Oh, no, wait…..
Barbara says
The date for the end of hostilities is 11 Sept 1683. 2001 Sept 11 was not by chance. Studying the horrors of the battle , there is nothing peaceful about that war.
Westman says
Interestingly, The Great Seige Of Malta ended on September 11, 1565, in which the Ottomans were defeated. This battle is credited with changing the perception of Europe about the invincibility of the Ottoman Empire to one of eventual victory. The Battle Of Vienna, the real beginning of the decline of the Ottoman Empire, finally stopped the advance of Islam into Christian lands, and WWI ended the Empire.
Jonas Richter Fjeld says
The strike on the twin towers was Islam’s greatest achievement in modern history. Not because the loss of the two buildings meant anything (with all respect for those who lost their lives, or loved ones) in itself, but because it made the US launch one of the dumbest wars of all times, a war they have lost so completely that certain Russian expeditions pale…
The ‘war on terror’ has unleashed the silent Jihad on the west, who in the liberal tradition has bent over and dropped their pants, and the cost to the US can be counted in trillions.
The Jihadis knew what they were doing, the American leadership not at all.
gravenimage says
Jonas–with all respect–whatever mistakes have been made in the “War on Terror”–and they have been myriad–they did not cause the Jihad against the West. That had already begun with 9/11, the attack on the Cole, etc etc going back decades.
There is no doubt that both violent and stealth Jihad have gotten worse in the past two decades, but Western attempts, no matter how ham-fisted at times, to prevent Jihad terror are not what have created Jihad terror.
john smith says
Also, Wednesday 24th August 1516 the Ottoman Turks invaded Syria in The Battle of Dabiq, sparking the take over of the middle east.
Wednesday 24th August 2016 the Turks (under the orders of the wanna be mahdi) once again invade Syria, in Operation Euphrates Shield.
Exactly 500 years to the day. Coincidence, I don’t think so.
gravenimage says
Could be, John. And then as now, the region was already Islamic–but that didn’t stop them.
Dhimmi says
Worse than classic socialism. What muslims could not do by military means they can do by mass migration today
Wellington says
This all goes to arguably the single major weakness of Western Civilization, extending the entire way back to antiquity, to wit, the West, which developed ideas of freedom such as no other civilization or society remotely has, when such development was ongoing, sadly often entailed too much freedom, i.e., an abuse of freedom (which is easy to do) and bordering on self-contempt and license, to criticize oneself and one’s own civilization excessively. Two-edged sword and all that.
No other civilization developed liberty as the West did, which led to all kinds of political freedoms, thinking outside the box in general, and which led to the invention of philosophy, the development of the scientific method, the greatest technological innovations of any civilization ever, the finest exploration of women’s rights, the capacity to apologize for wrongdoings (when has the Islamic world ever apologized for its many wrongdoings?) but it came at a price.
Still living with that price today. This article about Austrian textbooks only helps sustain my overarching “theme.” You bet it does.
Enough with the West pulling down the West. It has reached suicidal proportions. Damn one-dimensional and stupid too.
mortimer says
Wellington’s points about the late Roman civilization are well taken. Islam interfered with this advanced Greco-Roman development and forced European civilization to collapse and then after centuries painfully piece itself together again and rediscover and reinvent whatever Islam had destroyed. The Muslim savages burned books wherever they went. When Islam began marauding the Mediterranean, they stopped the production and distribution of paper from Egypt and then stopped the flow of goods and ideas.
Islam is an EXTINGUISHER of civilization and puts out the light wherever Islam is permitted to do so.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer–also, Islamic conquest of North Africa and piracy in the Mediterranean prevented completely free travel in that sea for a *thousand years*. It wasn’t until the young United States challenged the Barbary Pirates and the British and French joined in that things really changed.
mortimer says
Wellington wrote: “Damn one-dimensional and stupid too.”
‘One-dimensional’ is the criterion of PROPAGANDA.
mortimer says
The only thing that was ‘splendid’ about the Siege of Vienna was that they hightailed out of Vienna at the sight of King Jan Sobieski and left their COFFEE BEANS behind, permitting the Viennese to begin a lovely relationship between Viennese coffee and crescent rolls made to celebrate the DEFEAT OF THE MUSLIM HORDE of invaders.
PRCS says
Go to the original article and select the translate block.
The comments there are noteworthy.
https://exxpress.at/experten-kritisieren-einseitige-darstellung-des-islams-in-schulbuechern/
Example:
Retired Colonel General
24. October 2021 at 12:11
Islam is presented above all by leftists as a new cultural enrichment and the headscarf as a cool religious accessory.
● The KORAN and Mohamed will not and must not be critically questioned, because then very, very much would come to light that does not fit into the glossed-over image of Islam that is fooled into us by the politically correct zeitgeisters.
● All criticism is Islamophobia and incitement by evil reactionary right-wingers (= Nazis), who must therefore be silenced.
The fact that the NAZIS also found ISLAM cool and the Muslims the NAZIS is always concealed. Does not fit into the image that is to be conveyed to us.
● The cruel wars of conquest of the Muslims over 3 continents, the merciless subjugation of entire peoples, as well as the slavery of millions of infidels (especially Christians and black Africans), remain unmentioned.
Likewise, the general incapacitation/submission of women to second-class people.
Everything does not fit into the image that IS supposed to be conveyed to us by ISLAM.
? All this is very reminiscent of socialism, where all criticism and critical questioning was forbidden and the work of evil people (= fascists/Nazis).
Greetings,
stay cheerful, critical and defensive!
gravenimage says
Thanks, PRCS.
Also, this, from the textbook:
The flowery description of the Ottoman siege of Vienna in a school book is also problematic. There it says, among other things, “2500 colorful tents (…) oxen, people with turbans ……. They perceive strange smells. The Orient with its splendor lay before them like in a shop window.”
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I studied history at university, with an emphasis on the Medieval and Renaissance periods. Warfare, including siege warfare, was a brutal and ugly business. A besieging army would smell, all right–but not of “splendor” or anything you would want to see in a shop window, even at the time.
This is in fact “Orientalist” romantic whitewash–the very thing they probably claim they are rejecting. This is the kind of thing you would find in a child’s story book from a hundred years ago–something illustrated by Edmund Dulac, not any kind of terrifying reality.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/776605977/edmund-dulac-princess-badoura-from
https://www.redbubble.com/i/greeting-card/The-Queen-of-Sheba-Arabian-Nights-Edmund-Dulac-by-forgottenbeauty/34504548.5MT14
PRCS says
You’re welcome, and your two links are informative.
Ana, yes, warfare, including siege warfare, was a brutal and ugly business. Really brutal. Really ugly.
gravenimage says
+1
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
“Eleonore Witt-Dörring from CSPI Austria”: The abbreviation CSPI is explained neither in this translation nor in the original German-language article.
“one textbook says that many Muslim girls and women wear a headscarf for religious reasons, which is why they are “mobbed by some people””: No, the original says, “… angpoebelt”, which does not mean “mobbed”; it means “(verbally) abused”.
” “In addition, the teachings of Islam are sometimes misrepresented,” the expert emphasizes.”: But no examples are cited?
gravenimage says
Austria: Textbooks present one-sided, favorable view of Islam, including ‘splendor’ of the 1683 siege of Vienna
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What could be more indicative of “splendor” than trying to violently conquer your land and enslave its people?
Suicidal insanity.
sidney penny says
Get the reality of what happened in Austria in 1683 in The History of Jihad.
Also, get the reality of what happened in Wuhan in 2019 in What Really Happened In Wuhan
What Really Happened In Wuhan-A Virus-Like No Other, Countless Infections, Millions of Deaths
By: Sharri Markson
https://www.amazon.com.au/What-Really-Happened-Wuhan-Infections-ebook/dp/B094GHJK9L
Yogi says
This “virus “ it’s a big scum !! Nothing else , they use this to do great reset , 2030 , the worse is yet to come ..
Walter Sieruk says
The propaganda in those textbooks of the nation of Austria is but one of a good number of examples of the insidious subversive influence of the stealth jihadists in a Western nation.
Furthermore, this is a tragic reminder of how many Westerners are unaware of what is going on and also that many other people of the West have lost their Western values or are unwilling to fight for those values because they have surrendered to that awful ideology of politically correct thinking.
Terry Gain says
Good grief, what is next in the left’s heroic submission to Islam.
Despite lacking the years of formal training of privileged westerners the pious Muslim pilots flew the planes entrusted to them with great courage and precision.
gravenimage says
I just *wish* this insanity could be dismissed out of hand, Terry.
Terry Gain says
Mockery is bloodless and bloody.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Time for some book burning.
Relic says
charge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci31r4gLcBY
Eleanor says
While the West is being inundated and overwhelmed with Climate Change, Global Warming and Environmental Issues, the West doesn’t see the real enemy invading their shores.
Jonas Richter Fjeld says
The stronger socialism (aka liberalism, as if liberal socialism is not the ultimate oxymoron) gets, the stronger the defense of Islam gets, in every country and every culture. And as we can see from the UK and the USA; the stronger the anti-Semites become too.
By the way, let me give a little food for thought to those who think Nazism and Islam go well together. Bear in mind that expediency makes for strange bedfellows. The UK and France saved Islam in Europe when they supported the Turks against the Russians (19th Century), and the English worked with various Muslims countries against the Turks, which led to the Turks and Germans finding common ground in their common enemies (WW I).
And in WWII Germany was sort of low on allies…..
If der Führer returned today and saw what has happened to Germany he would have said ‘was für eine Scheisse’, and made another set of plans for renovating das Vaterland. There is nothing of ‘das Übermensch’ about the Arabs or Pakistanis or Somalis in the Völkisch tradition.
Hitler would also realize that he had been complete wrong in his hatred of the Jews.
gravenimage says
Hitler did consider the Arabs “untermensch”, but he openly admired Islam itself, and said that if Germans had embraced Islam in the Middle Ages that they would have conquered all of Europe, not being held back by “weak” Christianity.
Then, the idea that Hitler–a genocidal hater of Jews–would have reconsidered is just bizarre.
You don’t find many apologists for Hitler and the Nazis here–most of us actually *defend freedom* and hate fascism–but they do show up from time to time, as above. *Ugh*.
Jonas Richter Fjeld says
Well, if you idea of defending freedom is to be disgusted by everybody whose opinions are a iota different from yours, what sort of freedom are you fighting for? To understand and combat say anti-Semitism you must understand the reasoning behind it, and that means to even understand Nazism. Fascism, btw, differs from Nazism, in that it is not influenced by the Völkisch lore that heavily suffused much of Europe in the early 20th Century. The only sanctuary in Europe for the Jews in the 30ies was found in Portugal, under the Fascist dictator Salazar. Also Mussolini did not malign the Jews before he seriously needed some German support.
If you read Mein Kampf you will learn why Hitler persecuted the Jews, and understand how his arguments easily can be refuted. But at the time nobody bothered. They are not bothered now either. Abuse is not argument, and if you abuse an anti-Semite he or she is not likely to change their tack. But if you present lucid arguments for why anti-Semitism is simply stupid (we all agree that it is vile, btw, but as an argument that truism does not win over any opponents) you might perhaps turn the least obtuse around.
I recommend ‘An Intelligent Person’s guide to Fascism’ if you want to go beyond being opinionated.
gravenimage says
Jonas Richter Fjeld wrote:
Well, if you idea of defending freedom is to be disgusted by everybody whose opinions are a (sic) iota different from yours, what sort of freedom are you fighting for?
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Just grotesque–the idea that advocating Nazism represents an opinion “a (sic) iota different from [mine]” is utterly ludicrous.
More:
To understand and combat say anti-Semitism you must understand the reasoning behind it, and that means to even understand Nazism. Fascism, btw, differs from Nazism, in that it is not influenced by the Völkisch lore that heavily suffused much of Europe in the early 20th Century. The only sanctuary in Europe for the Jews in the 30ies was found in Portugal, under the Fascist dictator Salazar. Also Mussolini did not malign the Jews before he seriously needed some German support.
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Nazism is a form of Fascism. The idea that the Nazis were not Fascists is absurd.
And I am well aware of the Fascist underpinnings of antisemitism, as well as the history of antisemitism in Europe–and in Islam–before the Nazis emerged.
As to Italy, laws stripping Jews of their civil rights were imposed there as early as 1938. It was not as bad as Germany, but this is damning with faint praise.
As far as Portugal goes, it was indeed better than most countries in Europe, but hardly the sanctuary posited here. Jews from Vichy France and from Greece were often deported.
As for the implication that Fascist nations were somehow better for Jews, this is hardly the case. In fact, probably the best nations for escaping Jews were Switzerland and Britain, neither of which was Fascist.
More:
If you read Mein Kampf you will learn why Hitler persecuted the Jews, and understand how his arguments easily can be refuted. But at the time nobody bothered. They are not bothered now either.
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I’m well aware of the content of Mein Kampt, and of Nazi propaganda against he Jews in general. The Nazis were not interested in rational arguments.
And the idea that no one has ever offered a rational argument for not massacring Jews is preposterous. Perhaps this poster has just never noticed any of them…
More:
Abuse is not argument, and if you abuse an anti-Semite he or she is not likely to change their tack. But if you present lucid arguments for why anti-Semitism is simply stupid (we all agree that it is vile, btw, but as an argument that truism does not win over any opponents) you might perhaps turn the least obtuse around.
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The implication that Hitler could have been swayed from the genocide of the Holocaust if only someone reasonable had had a chat with him is risible.
Also, the idea that the problem is that I am “abusive” for daring to oppose the horrors of Fascism is just sickeningly false.
More:
I recommend ‘An Intelligent Person’s guide to Fascism’ if you want to go beyond being opinionated.
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The implication that I am only opposed to the horrors of Fascism–a bloody, unfree, totalitarian creed–is because I am ignorant of it is quite absurd. I know a great deal about Nazism, Fascism, the Holocaust. and the whole ugly history. Also, my mother and aunt both joined the British army as young women to stand agains the Nazis, my mother going through the London Blitz.
Try again…
OLD GUY says
And we should NOT be worried about the Islamic/Muslim migration invasion taking place throughout Europe and now in America? I guess we can’t learn from history if we don’t teach it to our young or we teach a version that makes everything in the world bad our fault.
Jonas Richter Fjeld says
If there is one person I would honour with a statue it is Jan Sobiensky III. And in September we should all fly the Polish flag to commemorate that crucial victory, and play ‘When the winged Hussars arrive’, by Sabaton.
Nelson Daniels says
There were four major Muslim Crusades into Christian Europe, all ending in defeat.
Battle of Tours, 732,
Siege of Vienna 1529
Battle of Vienna 1683. Kara Mustafa, the losing Muslim commander, was killed by The Sultan when he returned back to Istanbul
Battle of Lepanto 1571
gravenimage says
Even the Muslim conquests of the Iberian peninsula, southern France and Italy, Sicily, the Balkans, and Greece were reversed by brave Infidels taking their lands back.