Remember this the next time you hear an Islamic spokesman dismiss the violent passages in the Qur’an by saying they apply only to the time of Muhammad.
“[Video] ‘Cut off their heads as in the time of the prophet’: Marine Le Pen and Eric Zemmour threatened with beheading on the Internet,” translated from “[Vidéo] “Leur couper la tête comme à l’époque du prophète” : Marine Le Pen et Eric Zemmour menacés de décapitation sur Internet,” Valeurs Actuelles, October 15, 2021 (thanks to Medforth):
He directed his video to another internet user he calls “my brother.” This individual filmed himself, facing the camera, on the TikTok network. The video was relayed by our colleagues at CNews, this Friday, October 15. In this streak of less than a minute, the speaker did not hesitate to threaten Marine Le Pen and Eric Zemmour with beheadings. At the start of the video, the user first describes himself as a “Moroccan.” No doubt responding to the words of the “brother” to whom he is speaking, the man spoke about what he thinks to be the colonial past between the Maghreb countries and France. According to him, “the French came to (them) for 132 years. They raped women, they killed brothers and sisters.” According to the individual, the French “have spilled blood and today they come to tell you how you should live and how you should act.”
“Allah will bring us together”
It was then that he spoke of Marine Le Pen and Eric Zemmour in more disturbing terms. After first assuring that the candidate of the National Rally (RN) “would not win” the presidential election of 2022, “nor (Eric) Zemmour” – who has still not officially pronounced on his candidacy in the race for the Elysee Palace – his speech took a very different turn. “We are all going to meet insh’allah, Allah the creator, Allah the super, Allah the greatest will bring us together, and we will cut off their heads as in the time of the prophet,” he clearly indicated in his video, obviously speaking of Eric Zemmour and Marine Le Pen. “There are heads that will fall, it will be unpleasant for them,” he finally warned. The two personalities from the right to the right have so far not reacted to these death threats.
mortimer says
This Moroccan would-be vigilante confirms that Islam is not ‘benign’ as Western elites condescendingly assure us. The death penalty for blasphemy is one the most certain laws of Sharia:
From Sharia manual Reliance of the Traveller’ Chapter ‘O’ 11.10.05:
“The (DHIMMI) agreement is also violated (A: with respect to the offender alone) if the state has stipulated that any of the following things break it, and one of the subjects does so anyway, though if the state has not stipulated that these break the agreement, then they do not; namely, if one of the subject people:
-5- MENTIONS SOMETHING impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.”
Sharia law thus permits the murder of anyone who verbally opposes Islam, since they are ‘at war’ (harbi) with Islam:
“There is no indemnity obligatory for killing a non-Muslim at war (‘kafir harbi’) with Muslims.” -Reliance of the Traveller, o4.17, p.593
The Sharia manual of the Shafi school states:
“We have already discussed killing the person who, with intent, curses the Prophet, belittles him or slights him in any way. The judgement in this case is clear.” (i.e. the sentence is execution)- from Sharia law manual, “Qadhi Iyaadh in ash-Shifa”, Volume No.2, Page No. 27
-Scholar as-Suyuti writes: “(If they break their oaths…) This ayah (K. 9:11-12) is used as a proof by those who say that if a dhimmi attacks Islam (VERBALLY) or the Qur’an or MENTIONS the Prophet in a bad manner, HE IS KILLED, whether he has broken a treaty or not. Those who say that his repentance is accepted use as a proof, ‘hopefully they will stop.’”
– from a Sharia law web site…the “punishment of execution which sharee’ah imposes on everyone who reviles the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), whether he is a Muslim, a dhimmi or a mu’aahid, because transgressing against the status of the Prophets is disbelief in Allaah Almighty, and it invalidates every sanctity, right and covenant; it is a major betrayal which deserves the most severe punishment.
3 – Although this was a hadd punishment, it also comes under the heading of KILLING A HARBI (a non-Muslim in a state of war against Islam), and it is permissible FOR ANYONE to KILL a harbi.”.
-(i.e. vigilante murder is permitted by Islam)
rubiconcrest says
In the West a jihadist vigilante is called a lone wolf. A more apt description would be a Muslim Borg linked to Islamic mind hive.
somehistory says
Yes, “Lone Wolf” is a misnomer. The mozlum carrying out terror always has support and backup, many times belongs to a cell, or at the very least, attends the barracks meetings to gather steam for the attack.
A wolf alone is one without his pack. mozlums always have other members of their “pack”….mozlums around them…even if it’s just phone contact.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Mortimer.
somehistory says
““Allah will bring us together””
Yes, indeedy, all of you bloodthirsty, sex-mad, bags of flea-ridden maggot dung, will be going with satan and his demon sidekicks…all of you together….as the original serpent takes you with him into the “lake of fire.”
It was once considered a crime to threaten the life of another person, esp if that person was a politician, ‘leader,’ ruler, ruler-wanna-bee.
And it would be now if some idiot threatened a life and the idiot was considered “White conservative” and esp, if he/she had ever gone to “Church.”
Some years ago, a bumper sticker about ‘o’ on a vehicle, was the cause of police showing up at the door of the owner of said vehicle, and it wasn’t even a threat.
Now, any ole’ mozlum, in any old country, can threaten the life, or even lives, of anyone and they are dismissed as just spouting off and don’t intend any actions, are just joking, and they are harmlessly boasting about their false “prophet.” These two must be mental patients somewhere.
Will they be taken seriously? Not likely. Only if one of them, or another mozlum in France follows through and murders someone, will there be an “investigation.”
john smith says
Somehistory,
I know how committed and serious you are, but some of your descriptions can be hilarious I have a damn good laugh every time I read one.
somehistory says
John Smith, I appreciate your comments, always.
I’m glad you get a good laugh. I’m not laughing as I write them, but I do understand that the best humor is based on truth.
Perhaps someday, we can meet in person and laugh about all of this stuff that is happening now.
Thank you. 🙂
john smith says
I know your not laughing as you write,I know that every word you write is serious and comes straight from the heart. But this is why I find it so funny, because you are not saying these things for a laugh your being serious.
somehistory says
🙂 I just find it all so evil and can’t, for the life of me, understand why any people copy it and others don’t object to the fact that people copy it.
I don’t think we are supposed to understand the “why” of the evils in people’s hearts, and are not able to understand because we are not evil.
That evil just would not exist if not for satan and those willing …and even eager…to follow the demon snake.
I’m happy that you don’t object to my description. I just have to say what I think about it all. And, I’m not offended by the fact that you find it funny.
gravenimage says
Great exchange, Somehistory and John.
john smith says
Thank you Gravenimage
jim says
We need to behead terrorists in the future instead of giving them suspended sentences or pronouncing them mentally deficient. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
Fitna says
I just watched an interesting war show (The Pacific) last night about US soldiers taking an island back from the Japanese. It was a great battle and the commander stated their one and only job was to kill every “Jap” they could find, which is what they did.
I found it pretty liberating-because we knew who the bad guys were and we had to get rid of them. Don’t take any prisoners, don’t try to negotiate, just wipe them out.
Political correctness has pretty much destroyed our survival instinct in the West. Most people who’ve heard any news of Islamic terrorism and fascism intuitively already know Muslims are our enemies but yet we remain calm, quiet, pacified, as if we were sedated psych ward patients.
It’s all carefully planned out already thanks to the Left. Catch a Muslim making death threats or actually killing people? Call him mentally ill and quickly sweep it under the rug, never to be mentioned, discusses or analyzed again. Catch someone criticising Islam and Muslims, call them fascists, racists and Islamophobes, threaten their lives, try to get them fired from their jobs and even thrown in jail. They’ve already chosen their side.
This is the center-Left’s response to a death cult that has declared war on us. Keep deflecting, punting, ignoring the problem, shutting up critics and hope it’ll just go away. It’s only going to get much bigger over time, since we refuse to recognize it’s not just one or two bad Muslims, they’re all trouble and even the crime stats show how they’re vastly overrepresented in criminal behavior in the West.
What is holding us back? The azholes ramming political correctness and Islam down our throats. It’s the EU, the UN, the rotten politicians like Boris Johnson, Macron and others who lie to people’s faces, pretending to be on our side, just to win elections and stab us in the back and break all their promises to deal with illegal immigration and Islam.
All these bastards need to be thrown out of office. Frankly there are people who are working their butts off to save their country, people like Anne Marie Waters in the UK, ofc Marine Le Pen and this Zemmour person as well. All the masses need to do is vote them into power and then we can get rid of the PC crowd and then deal with Islam as we should without being held back by the non-Muslim traitors and cowards.
I’m fully with you, Muslims who make death threats should be executed, beheaded, thrown in the ocean fed to sharks, etc. People who defend Islamic terrorists deserve the same. This isn’t a case of ‘mental illness’ these people are at war with us and we need to take our ‘island’ back and get rid of them. The rest will leave on their own, most of them are cowards, once we get serious about defeating Islam.
Terry Gain says
Fitna
You should take a break until you learn that what is permissible in war and in a state of non-war are distinguishable. The jihadist here is a civilian who is not even identified. He may have committed a crime and, if so, should be arrested.
Those on our side, whoever they are, who advocate the killing of civilians are no better that this guy, whoever he is.
Fitna says
TerryGains, if you haven’t noticed, you’re the odd-ball here, most of the people on this server think like me and they understand that we are already in a state of war.
Funny you should talk about rules of engagement when you’re anti-gun. How do you expect to fight Muslims trying to kill you Terry? Use your big mouth?
People who want us to surrender like you, need to go away….but then again, you can keep yapping, and everyone will soon realize you’re a moron in the very least and possibly a member of the death cult we’re fighting.
Do you even know what you’re saying? A ‘Jihadist’ is someone who wages ‘holy war’ so they’re warriors/terrorists, not ‘civilians.’ What a d—bass you are. I’ll bet you’re a muslim troll given how salty and bitter your posts are.
Also why are you defending this Jihadist who threatened to decapitate top politicians? It seems you sympathize with this jihadist.
James Lincoln says
Fitna,
Let’s stick with the issues.
Personal attacks, name-calling, etc., is not helpful.
Terry Gain says
Fitna
Each of us speaks only for himself. We are not at war and what you propose is criminal. It’s one thing to be a hothead but you come across as both a hothead and not educable.
Fitna says
James Lincoln,
You worry about your own speech, I’ll worry about mine, nobody asked for your advice so stuff it…or should I say TerryGain’s second fake account?
Fitna says
TerryGains,
“We are not at war and what you propose is criminal.”
It’s exactly your type of thinking that is the problem and why people are being killed by Muslims on a daily basis.
If a Muslim stabbed you in the neck tomorrow Terry and you died, are you in a war? Is he at war with you?
Do you realize someone could be at war against you without you actually knowing it?
Just because we (in the West) are not fighting back, nor officially declaring we’re at war with Islam does not mean that we are not at war right now.
Are you saying that US/Europe troops who kill Muslim terrorists that threaten or try to behead them are criminals?
Ofc being a Muslim troll you would see infidels fighting back as ‘criminal.’ That’s the one thing that scares Muslims the most that western nations wake up and start defending themselves.
If we continue to treat this as a law-enforcement problem, then the Muslims will win because we won’t be proactive in stopping them from waging Jihad against us.
So we can agree on this point that we have no yet officially declared war on Islam, so it’s a one-sided war, as Robert Spencer, he’s said as much during his speeches, are you going to call him a criminal too?
“hothead and not educable.”
I’m sure James will show up to lecture you about ‘staying on topic and saying that name-calling isn’t helpful’ right James?
Also that’s pretty funny coming from a Muslim troll who foolishly thought that Muslims commit the same level of crime as non-Muslims, when in reality it’s a far higher due to their tiny population.
I explained it to you at least 3 times and you still didn’t understand, speaking of ‘not educable.’
gravenimage says
Fitna, your claim that James Lincoln is actually Terry Gain is much mistaken. They aren’t even the same nationality–James Lincoln is American and Terry Gain is Canadian.
Fitna says
Graven, noted-I know on some boards people have multiple accounts they post from, so when they sound similar or support one another I get suspicious.
It’s no biggie and I wasn’t presenting that as serious idea-if it isn’t obvious from the way I worded it, not that I could prove it either. 🙂
gravenimage says
OK, Fitna.
rubiconcrest says
Terry G is right but your frustration is understandable. We are giving comfort to a known enemy. We allow them to teach their hatred of our ways in their private schools and their religious institutions in our country. Our constitution protects their right to practice their faith and even promote their subversive ideas publicly. We have to wait until they engage in a criminal act to defend ourselves. This is the no win situation that confronts us. We cannot monitor everyone and must be able to trust our neighbor but Islam calls non-Muslims enemies. This leads us to be suspicious when our instincts tell us not to be so.
We should not feel guilty at all. Our nation should use all legal means to confront this subversive ideology but our leaders are kowtowed. Free speech is not enough when the press and all political parties are not on the same page.
Extreme vetting sounds nice but what about those promoting the ideology who are citizens? This is setting up to be a civilizational slog. It did not have to become this but our leaders failed us at the most important time.
It is our duty to be informed, stay level headed and not be afraid to be vocal. We cannot rest until we have long term solutions in place to deal with this problem.
Terry Gain says
All legal means. Yes. Definitely. Any illegal means? No. Definitely. Or we will become similar to them.
Fitna says
That’s the problem Rubicon, we’re treating this as a criminal matter when in fact we are in a state of war.
In a wartime situation, the protections our enemy normally get as ‘civilians’ get suspended and they’re either deported or thrown in internment camps or are fought as the enemy.
Most of the bright people here understand Islam is at war with us and our way of life, it’s been that way for 1400 years and there has never been a ‘cessation of hostilities’ declared on their side.
This is why we’re fighting a losing battle since we’re only dealing with the consequences of the Jihad attacks, 40k so far, with hundreds of thousands dead worldwide. We need to declare war on Islam so that we can protect ourselves and preempt them to save lives-get them before they get us.
Fitna says
Notice TerryGains only cares that we restrain ourselves to the ‘law’ he/she doesn’t impose such restrictions on the Muslims wanting to cut our heads off.
How are you going to stop the Muslims from killing us TerryGains, the anti-gun nut? In your perfect world how would you prevent 9/11, Bataclan, Pulse nightclub and other jihad massacres, do enlighten us.
Get rid of all our guns? Use the middle-finger?
Terry Gain says
Fitna
I did not propose that Americans get rid of their guns. If I lived in America I would have a gun for my own protection. I stated that I am glad that Canada does not have a gun culture. There is obviously nothing that can be done about America’s gun culture.
As you grow older you may learn not to read more into a statement than the author intended.
somehistory says
Fitna,
Some people do not understand just “why” the Founders of the U.S. put such strong language about being “well-armed.”
First, Freedom of Speech, which our Creator gave us when He made the tongue, vocal cords, and the breath to make all the speech organs work together.
Then seeing the need to make sure others….esp the government…didn’t take away this Freedom and the one to Worship, they included the “well-armed” which is not to be “abridged.”
The “well-armed” American public is the biggest reason that the U.S. still has a measure of the First Freedoms.
People don’t respect God any longer. They don’t care that we have “rights” given by Him, and they believe they can take these away. They would likely have already if not for the “well-armed” provision.
Many examples exist to prove that governments disarm the people over whom they rule before they implement the barbaric and the evil, enslaving and starving and beating the few who remain into silent submission.
Too many people living in America, some illegally, use this freedom to murder, but many, many more see it as protection only.
And whatever “legal” means one needs to use in this regard to protect self and family from those intent on killing is not wrong.
Fitna says
@ TerryGains,
“I did not propose that Americans get rid of their guns.”
That wasn’t my question, I asked you how do you propose that we stop Muslims from killing us in terrorist attacks since in your opinion it is “criminal” to execute terrorists who made death threats (and carry them) against us.
You completely dodged the questions-I was being facetious when I said ‘get rid of all guns’ since that isn’t going to happen but I’m sure you wish it could.
“If I lived in America I would have a gun for my own protection. I stated that I am glad that Canada does not have a gun culture. There is obviously nothing that can be done about America’s gun culture.”
Oh that’s funny, the anti-gun nut who earlier said “You can take your gun culture and shove it up your ass,” now claims that he’d buy a gun if he lived in the US. So you oppose “gun culture” but you don’t mind benefitting from it…will you be shoving that where the sun don’t shine also?
It seems my superior ideas are sinking in to your thick skull. I honestly don’t want to make you a smarter and better person-stealing my good ideas while you insult me at the same time.
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So which is it two-faced Terry? Do you support guns or oppose them? Or just support them when it suits you?
As you grow older you may learn not to read more into a statement than the author intended.”
Oh you mean you realized you were putting your foot in your mouth and looked foolish or contradicted yourself so now you want to pretend you said something else, while claiming the other person misunderstood?
Lol TerryG you make flip-flopping John Kerry look like a genius by comparison.
Fitna says
@SomeHistory,
Well said and agreed-someone making a threat to kill you has already committed a crime and killing them in self-defense is completely legal esp if you feel you’re in imminent danger.
The US Constitution is one of greatest documents ever created and Americans were smart to include the right to bear arms, to protect the people from a fascist gov’t, but also for self-defense.
Other western nations like Canada and in Europe should adopt it as well. It is because of anti-gun nuts that so many criminals get away with their horrific crimes. Now it’s made much worse with the influx of Muslims who don’t respect our laws.
As this site has demonstrated, when guns are banned, criminals just resort to other weapons such as knives, hammers and so forth.
Handguns might not also be the best tool for self defense since they require some training, but it’s certainly better than trying to fight off a 300 lb psychopath with a machete trying to kill you or a crazed Jihadist.
I’m not a piece of meat for a Muslim fanatic to unleash his rage upon. As Muslim terrorism increases over time, it will become a necessity to always be armed and prepared to shoot them before they shoot/stab you.
john smith says
Fitna
I totally agree with a lot what you have to say. We are at war and it’s no good to pussy-foot
around with an enemy that wants to slaughter every last one of us.
Fitna says
Thanks John, I’m glad to see there are some sane voices around still. Yes we absolutely are at war, even if it isn’t officially declared. That’s what we’re waiting for our retarded leaders to finally figure out.
It seems at least France is on the right track and while they aren’t declaring war yet, they’ve stated they’re against “political Islam” and are putting their money where there mouth is and taking action, which is good to see.
Of course I’d like to see all mosques shut down and Muslims deported, but it’s definitely a good start for them. I’m just hoping in time other countries wake up and do the same.
Wellington says
Dialogue with Islam = death.
gravenimage says
Yes, Wellington–you can’t “dialogue” (I also dislike this erosion of grammar) with a creed that wants you to submit or die. This is like trying to have a reasonable chat with Nazism.
Jmac says
Marine LePen knows exactly how to deal with these hate ideology zealots, as does Viktor Orbán,
the difference being that V.O. in Power and Hungary is a Safe Secure Nation whereas Marine LePen is not in power and france is plagued with no-go-zones and the entire country is rife with stabbings bombings
gravenimage says
France: Muslim migrant threatens Le Pen and Zemmour, ‘Cut off their heads as in the time of the prophet’
…………….
This thug should be arrested, sentenced, and then deported after serving his term. His family, Mosque, and associates should all be investigated.
Walter Sieruk says
Well, that should be of no surprise ,at all. For the Qu ‘ran does instruct in Surah 47:4. “Whenever you encounter the disbelievers strike off their heads…”
Nevertheless, there are still a number of people around who are in a state of mental denial who yet ,in spite of all the facts of reality, who still say that “Islam is “a peaceful non-violent religion.” They need to take off the religious/Islamic blinders off and and wake up to the truth about the violent , bloody and deadly of Islam.
Clifford Fodor says
We had John Wayne “The Duke” fight the Nazi Germans and the Imperial Japanese in World War II. Where are all the actors and actresses and the rest of Hollywood and Broadway in our fight with the Muslims? The Muslims are apparently winning the war of propaganda as well as their bloody jihad against the infidels.
gravenimage says
There have been just a handful of movies about our facing down Jihadists like “Captain Philips” with Tom Hanks as a ship’s captain attacked by Somali pirates and Clint Eastwood’s “The 15:17 to Paris” about American servicemen on vacation who foil a Jihad terror attack. But they are few and far between–and even though these are both fine movies (I’d recommend them both–and they are both true stories) neither actually mentions Islam as the force behind these Jihad terror attacks. Very concerning.
wpm says
The new Hollywood hates America ,hates Christians, hates straight white men who believe in family tradition structure to raise kids. The new Hollywood do not believe gender is what you are born into, kids should be exposed to drag queen hour at the local public library at age 4.They love all things that go against western civilization ,be they long dead religions of “pre-1492 “central America that believe in cannibalism killing thousand on stone altars to their “sun god” or present day Islam killing all unbelievers in the name of their moon god allah today.. The sins of present day Islam throwing gays off the roofs in present day Islamic ruled countries, child brides ,woman of the right hand ,sexual slavery, honor killing your own children, child grooming in western Europe of children of blue collar families by Islamic gangs, common thieving, murder all done to advance Islam for allah. These are all forgiven by present day Hollywood because some white men in America own slave here over 150 years ago. Some people made statues to these slave owners in the past .Never mind slaving still goes on in present day Islam, it is still not outlawed ,it is still lawful in their holy books.
OLD GUY says
Islam creates such wonderful people (men). as women basically don’t count unless they are willing to blow themselves up, or are able to get elected in American politics to promote the Islamic ideology.