The Qur’an teaches that men are superior to women and should beat those from whom they “fear disobedience”: “Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” — Qur’an 4:34
Muhammad’s child bride, Aisha, says in a hadith that Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: ‘Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?’” — Sahih Muslim 2127
Another hadith states: “Rifa`a divorced his wife whereupon `AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. `Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah’s Messenger came, Aisha said, ‘I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!’” — Sahih Bukhari 7.77.5825
“Egyptian Islamic Scholar Dr. Yosry Gabr On Wife Beating In Islam: If She Is Nasty And Does Not Want To Understand – Beat Her To Instill Discipline, But Not In Public,” MEMRI, October 4, 2021:
Egyptian Islamic scholar Dr. Yosry Gabr explained the conditions for wife beating, saying the practice is intended to instill discipline, and not “to cause pain.” He spoke in a video that was posted on his YouTube channel on August 5, 2021….
Yosry Gabr: “I see men beating their wives in the street, or on the bus. They say: ‘But our Lord said ‘beat them.’ This is taking the words out of their context. Whoever distorts the Quran this way is a criminal. The beating that the Quran mentions is for the purpose of instilling discipline. Therefore, it must follow these conditions: It must not be painful to the body, it must not leave a mark, it must not be on the face, and never in front of other people.
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“We are talking here about a disobedient wife. A disobedient wife is a wife who is condescending toward her husband, and does not want to conduct herself in a polite manner with him. In this case, he has no choice but to discipline her. The disciplining begins with admonition. [The husband] should educate her, show her affection, love her, and make her love him, so she would obey him out of love. We always say that only obedience out of love lasts. Forced obedience does not last.
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“If you did all this and your wife is still condescending toward you, your wife needs to be admonished. ‘Admonish them,’ means to advise them. You should advise her once or twice, with words or with actions. Give her a present. If she has a bad day, give her a present. If she likes wearing gold [jewelry], buy her a gold ring. She would jump up with joy. Their minds are controlled by emotion… By the way, this is what makes them sweet. If your wife’s mind was controlled by reason, you would not be able to live with her, you would feel as if you married a man.
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“If the admonishment does not work – ‘forsake them in bed.’ Go sleep in another room. If you have only one room, sleep in one corner while she sleeps in another. Get it? The purpose is to make her feel that you don’t really need her, that you can do without her, that her beauty does not arouse you or draw your attention. This hurts a woman’s feeling very much – to feel that her husband does not need her and does not want to look at her.
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“Let’s assume that she is a nasty person and refuses to understand. In such a case, we turn to beating, but beating for the sake of instilling discipline, not in order to inflict pain.”
mortimer says
Mohammed was a vicious, sneering misogynist in the Sira and hadiths, so why would Muslim males not think that is the correct behavior for them too? The Koran calls Mohammed the ‘excellent example” … misogyny is an ‘excellent example” for Muslim males to copy.
Mohammed’s Example:
33.21: Mohammed is an excellent role model for you to follow.
3.31: If you love Allah then follow Muhammad and Allah will forgive your sins.
33.36: Rules and examples set by Allah and Muhammad are binding upon all Muslims: there are no alternatives.
6.33: Rejecting Muhammad is rejecting Allah.
somehistory says
Question ( and I don’t really expect anyone to **answer** it)
Just who gets to define “nasty”?
From yahoo: “highly unpleasant, especially to the senses; physically nauseating”
Using this definition, just about any mozlum male…esp…and all of… the ones in photos taken when they are saying little girls can be daily raped by “nasty” old males, how people should be murdered, women deserve rape, and their wives need to be beaten.
If the males were less on the nasty, brutal, disgusting, evil, feculent, demonic side, the women might be more agreeable instead of just fearing for their lives and then passing along the fear to their little girls in the form of abuse.
gravenimage says
Islamic scholar: If one’s wife ‘is a nasty person and refuses to understand, in such a case, we turn to beating’
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And if the husband is a nasty person? Note that his wife has no right to beat him.
In fact, beating your wife is pretty much the definistion of “nasty”. And note also that just using reason is enough for a man to beat his wife. *Ugh*.
John says
Mr. Spencer is so polite. “The Quaran teaches……”
I’m not politically correct. “Everything they do is in their f***in book.” (Koran)
Alfredo says
Pursuant to Surah 4:34, it was “revealed” to the “messenger of Allah” that women are “inferior to men.”
Clearly quotation marks are needed when referring to the Holey Scriptures of the “Religion of Peace.”
The Muhammadan apologists twist themselves into verbal contorsions when they try to put “in context” this wretched Surah saying that the husband must use a “toothpick” to beat the disobedient, nasty wife.
Who are these shameless liars trying to hoodwink? Themselves of course.
Then Bukhari himself is quite clear, “Aisha said, ‘I have never seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!'”
Sahih Bukhari 7.77.5825
OLD GUY says
Just goes to show just how uncivilized Islam can be. In America you will be arrested for beating an animal. Wife beating could result in the wife getting a divorce and most of the mans wealth along with jail time for the beating. Islam sucks!
Walter Sieruk says
Islam’s allowing a Muslim man beat his wife beating is awful In contrast, the Bible gives instruction Christian married men. .As in reads ” Husbands love your wives…” Ephesians 5:25. [N.K.J.V.]
Marriage in the opposing views of Christianity and Islam there is a vast and great difference.
Mindy Robinson says
I read the quaran to determine for myself what it was all about. It is a book written by a man who capitulated to the evil of his own heart. It appeals to man because it allows man to act on the evil in their hearts. It is a book of war, a book of oppression, a book which makes men gods, a book of destruction.
OLD GUY says
I read it the same way, just awful.
commonsense says
Per Islamic scholar Dr. Gabr: “The beatings by the husband must continue until the wife’s love for him is rekindled.”
somehistory says
I believe it is difficult to have love for anyone who is beating the daylights out…they don’t know what love is anyway. Lust, blood-lust, hate, and control are all the emotions they know.
john smith says
So true Somehistory, they don’t know what love is. The more radical the muslim the more hate there is in them.
John Lloyd Scharf says
ALL Muhammadans are “nasty and do not want to understand,” from my perspective. They destroy the means of production to steal from those who create. They would cut off their OWN nose to spite you.
“If She Is Nasty And Does Not Want To Understand” in a Muhammadan degenerative civilization, then she must want a beating. It would seem to be a reward for a masochist. If beatings cause her “love for him to be rekindled,” that would be a sure sign.
If you do want to encourage bad behavior by a masochist, then, by all means, beat them. They get an endorphin rush from it akin to opiates. A masochist out of control could be beaten to death and be in ecstasy. In an upside-down society like that, the beatings would have to stop until the attitude improves.
My perspective may be sexist, but the women I know are far more reasonable than the male of the species. Perhaps I am homophobic, but that seems why their thinking is so alien to the average male of any civilization.
My thought is relationship building is more important than mere sex; even if you could make it last 16 hours a day. The worst punishment for someone who cares about you more than themselves is for you to be genuinely disappointed in them.
somehistory says
True and sensible. I agree.
john smith says
We can learn so much from muslims, they have so much to offer us . A bit of wife beating now and again, doesn’t sound a bad idea.
somehistory says
Beat her at chess, checkers, golf, Parcheesi, Battleship, or to the kitchen for the last piece of pie….