In mid-October, Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi “committed Egypt to a five-year program of human rights reform.” He shocked the country when he stated:
“If someone tells me they are neither Muslim nor Christian nor a Jew or that he or she does not believe in religion, I will tell them, ‘You are free to choose,’” he said. “But will a society that has been conditioned to think in a certain way for the last 90 years accept this?”
But despite the hope — raised by al-Sisi’s speech and more importantly by the arrests of the two Muslim brothers for murdering the Christian shopkeeper — there is still a long way to go in Egypt. Christians are still frequently deemed inferiors in a country that is very fractured, even within its own government. Also, al-Sisi is well known for putting on a global show while doing little. A few days ago, an Egyptian film called Feathers, which featured a Coptic cast, depicted the daily reality of poverty among the Coptic Christian minority “infidels.” The film drew criticism from the government for depicting Egypt in a poor light.
“Egypt’s Christian population often suffers as second-class citizens, facing government discrimination and societal persecution. Egypt ranks 16th on Open Doors World Watch List.”
“Two Egyptian Muslim brothers jailed for life for killing Christian shopkeeper,” Barnabus Fund, November 1, 2021:
Two Muslim brothers known for their hatred and harassment of Christians have been jailed for life by Alexandria Criminal Court for the killing of Egyptian Christian shopkeeper Ramsis Hermina, 47.
Under Egyptian law it means that Nasser and Ali al-Sambo must serve 25 years in prison for the brutal attack on 10 December 2020 in which two other Christian men, including Mr Hermina’s brother, were injured.
Nasser and his brothers were known for their religious fanaticism and for their harassment of Christians, especially Christian shopkeepers, in the al-Wardayan district where they lived. This escalated when Nasser was released from serving time in prison for previous violent behaviour, as he claimed that Christians testified against him.
On the morning of the attack, the brothers’ mother, who was in poor health, died. Hours later Nasser and Ali al-Sambo left their home in a fit of rage and, armed with knives, a sword and clubs, headed to the Christian-owned shops, shouting obscenities against Christians and accusing them of being the cause of their mother’s death.
Mr Hermina heard the shouting and hurried to bring in the household goods he had on display outside his shop. He was caught by the brothers and, as Ali held him, Nasser stabbed him in the abdomen and neck……
tunde says
Throw away the key.
mortimer says
Islam believes that people may be killed merely because they have the wrong belief. This is the definition of complete bigotry.
A Muslim cannot read the following violent texts, believe them and remain a tolerant, decent person …
No other religion contains texts like these:
Ishaq:489 “Do the bastards think that we are not their equal in fighting? We are men who think that there is no shame in killing.”
Tabari VII:97 “The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.’
Ishaq:369 “Thereupon Mas’ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim’s brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much fat in you belly from his charity.’ Mas’ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.’ Wherein the brother said, ‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!’ And he accepted Islam.”
Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”
gravenimage says
Yes, Mortimer–I consider Ishaq:369 particularly perverse; that this Muslim murderer’s brother is impressed that his brother would have killed him if ordered to by the “Prophet”, and so converts to Islam himself. Sick, sick stuff.
peter says
This is classic religious fanaticism and hero worship. Bertrand Russel once said” If I say I am the greatest person in the world ,I will be called the greatest fool in the world but on the other hand if I say that the British are greatest people in the world ,I can become a hero overnight. The meaning implied is same in both ” This shows how people are blind to the facts and indulge in hero worship .That is how muslims are destroying the world and destroying themselves! The good news in all this is Islam is self destructive !
gravenimage says
The idea that admiring genuine heroes and murdering shopkeepers is one and the same is quite mistaken.
gravenimage says
Egypt: Two Muslim brothers murder Christian shopkeeper
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Horrifying. At least this is a decent sentence–assuming that it is actually enforced, of course.
ploome says
no one cares
unless Jews or Americans can be blamed
ploome says
my comments are not being published
gravenimage says
They seem to be coming through just fine, ploome.
Glad to see you posting again.
Oren Wysocki says
The two muslims accused the christian of being responsible for the death of their mother. What this means about their thinking, is that they believe that it was their religious duty, to force christians in their community to convert to islam, or kill them as an example to other chritistians. Because the two muslim brothers did not do as G-d willed, their mother died.
As you can see, muslims believe that their religion is A violent religion, they support the violent world view. Until we can do something about the weak minded people among us who cannot accept that disproportionately vast percentages of muslims have very low moral standards, who are intolerant of non muslims, who embrace violence, intimidation, and brutality as means for establishing societal hierarchies, we will be no where in this fight.
It seems to me, more and more that the distance we need to cover, in order to simply be able to implement basic security, and legitimacy in our media, courts and government again require steps like confronting islam that huge swaths of the american population and substantial percentages of the Israeli population are simply nowhere near being close to supporting. They are to slow, the west must be dumped, they cannot lead, they must be lead, and in order not to be in charge, means disagreeing with who is in charge, which is impossible for vast percentages of americans, to accept Israeli leadership against the arab muslims.
Standing up to islam is A small and easy step compared to the entire distance we need to cover before we can reestablish laws and order. Rational security situation, A real conversation about the people in the world, especially the white gentiles, we are nowhere in this discourse, nowhere in this fight, which explains the hundreds of missiles, and the constant murders and attacks by muslims against Jews.
We need to explain to the people of Israel who the American white people are, since there is little hope that blacks or latinos will support Jews over muslims, or the right over the left. White gentile women will scream that is racist whenever any idea that implies nurture or nature as A cause for muslim behavior, screaming that’s racist while running away. To deviate from the idea that we will all end up the same one day is all the justification they need in order to disregard any points or evidence you have. Not all but most.
Vast numbers of white gentiles believe that they are in A race war, between their people and the Jewish people. They hope that the muslims defeat the Jewish people openly. Most of the American people who are open to supporting Israel over the muslims, already do. America is mostly crippled by the leftist utopians, but A substantial percentage of white gentile men hate Jews and support the left, even if they are pushing multiculturalism, if they think it will give them A chance to hurt Israel.
Combined with the non white populations that have never known shame for their racist ways, who are in the beginning phases of considering what is fair to other races like Jews or white gentiles. They are not going to come around for A long time if ever. Non whites are not succeeding to embrace capitalism or freedom of the press, imagine when the truth is out in the open, with white people advocating separation, or Jews recommending different laws for muslims and Jews. In G-d I trust.
gravenimage says
I think these Muslim thugs blamed the Christians for their mother’s death because they were in jail–for attacking Christians. Twisted thinking, to say the least.
Dhimmi says
The egyptian civilisation was destroyed by Islam, a lesson for Western Europe
Dhimmi says
Al- Sisi does not speak for most Egyptians , he speaks because United States spends billions each year to bribe the Egyptian army leaders, the official military aid for Egypt is in part stolen by army bosses like Sisi. His views are not an indication of the state of mind among muslim population of Egypt
Jupiter says
Egypt:
Young atheist kicked off Egyptian TV. Atheism branded “destructive”
Islam sucks up brains of people, makes them Muslims.
Once proud Egyptian Pharaoh civilization… Once proud Iranian civilisation…
Brainless!!
https://9gag.com/gag/avAZG4q
gravenimage says
Yes–appalling.
PMK says
Jailed for life? BS. They’ll be out sooner than we think. One was released from prison because a Christian had testified against him. This attack was also against Christians. I doubt very much they will serve anything close to 25 years.
Claudius says
Actually, the Copts in Egypt should isolate themselves in “ghettos”, surrounding themselves with defensive walls. Technology has made it easier and easier to grow their own food in greenhouses, use solar panels, run their own cell phone towers, even generating their own water etc. Through technology you can isolate yourself in a “parallel society”, where you do not have to interact with an oppressive majority.
gravenimage says
Claudius, your idea that the threatened and impoverished Copts can live in Egypt and have no contact at all with the Muslim majority is utterly implausible, I’m afraid.
You cannot of course point to any population that has ever done this, in any circumstances.