Looking at the Poland border war, where border police are under attack by mobs of rock-throwing Iraqi Muslim migrants, I’m reminded of the Gates of Vienna and how the various quarreling Christian princes played a role in the Islamic invasion.
While Poland plays the Sobieski role, Putin seems determined to enact Louis XIV’s betrayal. The Sun King was concerned with his own power and with French deterrence against Austria, used the Ottoman invasion for his own purposes while undermining any defense against it.
Putin’s puppet regime in Belarus imported massive numbers of Muslim migrants from Iraq and dispatched them to invade Poland, providing them with axes and wire cutters to break through the border fence, and, in the face of Polish attempts at protecting their border, is forcing them to remain there to continue the invasion.
Some migrants are even claiming that they were forced to cut the fence.
Putin claimed to be a protector of Christianity. All of this is rather unfit behavior for “protectors of Christianity”, but in a historically familiar pattern, the Christianity he’s protecting is the far more narrow one of a denomination, rather than the Christian world. This was part of how the original Islamic conquests divided and conquered various Christian denominations, pitting them against each other.
Poland, being Catholic, is apparently not the form of Christianity that Putin is protecting. There’s a lot of regional history behind that as well.
Putin has made public statements in that regard.
During his conversation with the Russian people today, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin cites with approval the conclusion of “certain theoreticians [who] say that [Orthodox Christianity] is much closer to Islam than Catholicism is,” something that he suggests should be the basis for restoring national concord.
In his responses to questions, Putin stresses that “Caucasians must not be afraid to live in Moscow or Russians to live in the North Caucasus.” Instead, he continued, “all citizens of Russia of whatever faith or nationality must recognize that we have a single common Motherland”
“From very beginning,” the Russian leader said, “Russia was built up as a multi-national and multi-confessional state.” And after saying that “the state exists to serve the interests of the majority,” he added, “you know, we have Eastern Christianity and certain theoreticians say that it is much closer to Islam than [Roman] Catholicism is.”
Putin suggests, there are major differences, perhaps the greatest of which is the caesaro-papist tradition of Orthodoxy and the absence of that tradition in Western Christendom. And that means the two Christian traditions are in a very different position with regard to Islam, which like Orthodoxy but unlike Catholicism calls for a unity of state and religious power.
On the one hand, that means that Orthodox Christians and Muslims are better able to understand their political theories because they have something in common than are Western Christians and the Islamic world, where the idea of the fusion of state and religion is generally anathema.
We all know how this sort of thing ends.
Kagman says
I can’t blame the guy in the least! He’s getting rid one the existential threats to his nation. Now that Dementia Joe and his handlers have erased our southern border, I’m surprised they are not turning up here.
john smith says
They soon will be that you can guarantee, it’s only a matter of time.
gravenimage says
Really? You think it’s OK to import Muslims and then send them to your neighbors? On what possible moral basis?
roberta says
For all of his supposed brain power, Putin has made some pretty bad mistakes.
It was he that sold the nuclear technology to North Korea. What a short sighted stupid thing to do.
john smith says
I was unaware of that Roberta so I just checked it out, apparently it seems to be true.
So thank you.
Richard says
Not at all true.
The U.S> agreed to sell them Nuclear Reactors in 1994 but never did due to Republican opposition
Richard says
Even the USSR refused to give them Nuclear Weapon technology or scud missiles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
Infidel says
Probably b’cos they always had differences w/ Beijing to the end, and North Korea was more a vassal of Beijing than of the Soviets. It wasn’t until Putin came to power that Russia’s relations w/ China began to improve
gravenimage says
The Soviet Union did indeed take part in the construction of the Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center and research reactor for North Korea. This was in the 1960s.
CogitoErgoSum says
Pretty sure North Korea gained most of its nuclear technology through the help of a Pakistani nuclear scientist named A.Q. Khan.
LB says
This has nothing to do with religion, that’s only a convenient excuse; it’s all about geopolitics and Putin’s response to the West’s mass propaganda about Russia being portrayed as the #1 enemy of the world. If you look at it from Russia’s perspective, it’s a win-win situation where you both do away with the muslims in your country AND pseudo-attack the EU which has sanctioned Russia for years. One other thing to mention is that Russia and Poland are… not on the best of terms, to put it mildly, but Poland itself is not the target — Putin is targeting Western Europe to which all of the muslims are trying to reach.
All of that being said, while I understand why he’s doing it, I personally do not condone Putin’s actions because, in my opinion, he does not see the bigger picture of muslims taking over Christian Europe which all our ancestors gave their lives to protect from islam’s constant invasion. Then again, is there anything Christian left in Western Europe anymore? Because all I–an atheist–see when I look at Western Europe is pure depravity and degeneracy targeting children as young as they are able to speak. Perhaps something (such as mass muslim terrorism) is needed to light the spark of revolution once again and cleanse all the filth which has infested the roots of Western society. Only time will tell…
Infidel says
Fully agree on this one. Religion is pretty much an afterthought when it comes to Russian policies anywhere, be it Syria, Afghanistan, Europe, Armenia, et al
somehistory says
I, as one who attempts to be Christian…and it gets really difficult sometimes…see that it is not that he believes that one group claiming to follow Christ is better than another…by better, he seems to think closer to islam, (putrid thought) than are the Catholics, but as Mr. Greenfield writes, to ‘divide and conquer’ for his own selfish interests.
gravenimage says
LB, your idea that Russia has the right to send violent enemies to Poland because the Westtern press does not generally laud authoritarianism is bizarre.
LB says
Graven, explain the “Russia has no right” part. Do you mean that Russia is doing anything illegal? Because on a technical level, it isn’t. And if we’re doing moral grandstanding here, does the West “have the right” to sanction Russia politically, economically and socially through various restrictions, bannings and mass media propaganda for decades?
And excuse my laughter for your authoritarianism bit, because the last I checked, the West is being run into the ground by globalist trans-national pedophile elites that want to see everything destroyed and everyone under their control. Try speaking out against them or their leftist politics in public and see how quickly the “free West” becomes not so free after all when you lose your job, house and friends while being investigated by the FBI and other Three Letter Agencies for “domestic terrorism”.
gravenimage says
LB wrote:
Graven, explain the “Russia has no right” part. Do you mean that Russia is doing anything illegal? Because on a technical level, it isn’t.
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I don’t know enough about international law to know whether it is legal to flood neighboring countries with violent immigrants deliberately brought in for that purpose, but it certainly should be.
And that idea that objecting to trying to forcibly Islamize neighboring nations is not moral is grotesque–on what possible basis is this moral?
And why are you even pretending to be an Anti-Jihadist if you think that it is?
More:
And if we’re doing moral grandstanding here, does the West “have the right” to sanction Russia politically, economically and socially through various restrictions, bannings and mass media propaganda for decades?
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Firstly, Poland is not the West. Then, the idea that Russia should try to forcibly Islamize a non-Western nation because some in Western nations sometimes criticize Russia’s lack of freedoms is truly bizarre.
More:
And excuse my laughter for your authoritarianism bit, because the last I checked, the West is being run into the ground by globalist trans-national pedophile elites that want to see everything destroyed and everyone under their control. Try speaking out against them or their leftist politics in public and see how quickly the “free West” becomes not so free after all when you lose your job, house and friends while being investigated by the FBI and other Three Letter Agencies for “domestic terrorism”.
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I have often been critical of Western nation’s policies, including my own. But I can do this openly, and have not been poisoned by polonium yet, as critics of Putin often are.
If you don’t think that being poisoned for speaking out against authoritarianism is authoritaritarian, then there is no hope for you.
And if you believe that the West is run by pedophile rings, then you have been listening to too many conspiracy theories. Unlike in Islam, pediphilia is actually illegal in the West.
And seeking Poland to be Islamized will *not* lessen pedophilia–you do know that child marriage is legal in Islam, don’t you? Or do you simply not care?
SAFI says
it’s a win-win situation where you both do away with the muslims in your country AND pseudo-attack the EU which has sanctioned Russia for years
Honestly what the hell are you talking about? These aren’t Russian Muslims, Lukashenko has been flying them in from Iraq and other Middle east destinations and transporting them to the Polish border and even supplying them with tools to help puncture through the Polish border fences. They wouldn’t be there at all if Putin’s puppet had not flown them in. Russia will be 30% Muslim by the middle of this century and Putin is doing jack shit about that, the only one who’s getting rid of its Muslims right now is the Middle East. And the EU has only put some sanctions on Russia because it annexed Crimea and keeps waging separatist warfare in east Ukraine, but still buys all its energy from Russia and builds new pipelines(NordStream2) to buy even more gas in the future from poor sanctioned Putin so none of what you say makes sense. Putin is nothing but a machiavellian ex-KGB agent and his western fanboys are delusional at best.
Perhaps something (such as mass muslim terrorism) is needed to light the spark of revolution once again
Please tell me you’re joking and just happen to have a weird sense of humor.
Dhimmi says
Even in Russia, contrary to some naive people, he was never a protector of Christians even in Russia and his grandfather was the cook of Lenin, who was not a Christian, not the wife of Lenin was.
Dhimmi says
Even outside this incident, there is no reason to consider Putin a protector of Christians and there was never such reason, despite some misunderstanding about him in the west
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
Oh finally. After 5 years, a real reason to be afraid of “RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!” – as the liberals so eloquently screamed.
Mike says
A colossus on legs of clay. Russia has the largest Muslim population in Europe. In 2010, 16.4 million Muslims (11.6% of the Russian population) .
Mike says
In Chechnya, for example, everything is based solely on the personal relationship between Vladimir Putin and Ramzan Kadyrov. If an economic or political crisis began in Russia and money from Moscow ran out, Kadyrov and others would have to seek support from abroad, and that would not bode well. A black hole would then form in the middle of Russia.
gravenimage says
That Putin is winking at Sharia law on Russia soil in Chechny is very disturbing.
Infidel says
So far though, they are present in only a handful of places – namely Chechnya (and surrounding Caucasian areas like Dagestan) and Tatarstan (Astrakhan and Kazan). Otherwise, other places that were previously muslim but conquered by the Romanovs, such as the Sibir Khanate, were converted to the Russian Orthodox Church. Only mistake the Romanovs made was not Christianizing Central Asia after conquering the khanates of Buqhara and Xeva
It will get dangerous if muslims spread all over Russia and start outbreeding the locals. If Russia ever falls to islam, that will be fatal for humanity, as the map of dar ul islam would have unrecognizably changed
Wellington says
I have never trusted Putin and I never will and what he is demonstrating here is what George Kennan said about both Czarist Russia and Soviet Russia, to wit, that the Russians look upon their neighbors as vassals or enemies. No one knows this better than the Poles.
That’s what is going on here but in typical Russia fashion Russian leadership cuts off its nose to spite its face. Yes indeed, Russia never learns.
Infidel says
Speaking of Romanov Russia, they do deserve the credit for destroying Turkistan, which was the source of jihadist invasions from west to south Asia. That not only ended the slave trade in Central Asia, when Russia’s frontiers in the Kazakh Steppes were being raided by muslims and Russian women and kids were being sold in the slave markets of Buqhara and Xeva, but it also ended the jihad threats from Afghanistan and Iran, which now had to be mindful of being invaded from the north
Yeah, I’m not a fan of what Russia used to do in Eastern Europe, but that was an era of empires – be it the Romanovs, Hapsburgs, Hohenzollerns, Bourbons, Hannovers, et al. Not fair to judge a country then by today’s standards. And speaking of never learning, the UK, which today looks the other way on grooming gangs and other muslim outrages, disrupted the de-islamization of the Indian subcontinent, which would otherwise have probably led to a muslim exodus from the subcontinent – or re-conversion. Russia ain’t the only country incapable of learning from history
Wellington says
Thanks for your reply, Infidel. I would point out that both Bush 41 and Clinton indicated after the fall of the Evil Empire that Russia too could become a member of NATO but Russia chose to see NATO as a continued enemy all the while one Eastern European nation after another saw NATO as the best guarantee of not being being dominated by Russia again. Speaks volumes I think that so many Eastern European countries looked upon NATO as a complete positive while Russia looked upon (and still does) NATO as “the enemy.”
Russians don’t get freedom. They are brave and resourceful but they’re idiots on the freedom front.
Boycott Turkey says
How can he be a protector of Christianity when he let Armenians get Genocided and ethnicly cleansed from Artaksh also he allowed Agia Sofia to be converted to a mosque he betrayed Christians and is getting closer to Turkey everyday
Infidel says
Precisely! He treats islam as an irrelevant variable in his geopolitical calculations. He does claim to be sensitive to the interests of Russian people in their ‘near abroad’, so has he heard from Russians who’ve been losing their property in the Kazakh Steppes to land jihad? And why doesn’t he threaten Kazakhstan in the same way that he threatens Ukraine, Georgia or Latvia?
Kepha says
Here’s a further take on the Russia-Poland enmity:
I always thought that there was much of Zbigniew Brzezinski’s “Cold Awrriorism” that came from the Soviet Union being Russian rather than it’s being Communist.
gravenimage says
Tribalism is no better than Communism.
somehistory says
Probably the first real bath these *invaders* have had since birth.
It’s serious, but I had to laugh at the creep in blue who thought he could withstand the water cannon.
Richard says
roberta – Putin did NOT sell nuclear technology to North Korea.
Guess who did? The USSR (although they refused to give them nuclear weapon technology. or scud missiles.
Guess who else agreed to (but eventually didn’t because of Republican opposition)? Your beloved United States!
“Under the 1994 “Agreed Framework”, the U.S. government agreed to facilitate the supply of two light-water reactors to North Korea in exchange for North Korean disarmament.”
Richard says
“Putin Claims to be a Protector of Christianity. He’s Sending Muslims to Invade Poland.”
That claim is misleading. He is not importing the Muslims to invade Poland. Those Muslims landed up in Belarus (a different country). Belarus doesn’t want them and the Muslim’s aim is the EU, not Belarus.
The importer of Muslims is the EU, and Angela Merkel, who imported 1 million of them in one fell swoop.
As for Putin’s pro-Muslim comments – they should be taken with a pinch of salt. He is a politician with a large indigenous Muslim population. His actions speak louder than words, Helping Armenia and controlling the Caucusus.
Infidel says
Belarus is nowhere near any muslim country. For any muslim to get to Belarus, they’d have to take a flight from places like Damascus, Kabul, Lahore, Teheran, et al to Minsk. At airports, it’s not easy to board a flight until a passenger shows visa documents that allow him to travel to the destination country. So the reason those muslims landed in Belarus was that Belarus allowed them to, b’cos they wanted to forward them on to Europe. If Belarus did not want them, all they had to do was deny them visas to Belarus in the first place
Also, Belarus doesn’t have any borders w/ countries that like taking refugees, such as Germany or Spain, so they had no business issuing even transit visas to those muslims. They should have told them to seek visas to Morocco, and then cross from there into Spain and then into the rest of Europe
Also, when did Putin help Armenia? All he did was endorse Azerbaijan reconquering not just Artsakh but also a connecting corridor that was clearly Armenian territory
Richard says
Everything is not so simple and black and white as you might imagine.
Russia has always supported Armenia. It even has a military base in Nagorno-Karabakh.
In the 2020 war Azerbaijan was victorious but was stopped by the Russians before they could go any further.
In the ceasefire agreement signed on November 10, 2020, most of the territories lost by Azerbaijan during the First Nagorno-Karabakh war were returned to Azerbaijan. But they have kept all the territory that originally belonged to the province.
You are also wrong about the connecting corridor. Russian peacekeepers have guaranteed safe passage through the region of Lachin which separates Nagorno-Karabakh from Armenia.
Wellington says
Russia has always supported Armenia?
Uh-huh. Well then, how many times has Russia under Putin raised the issue of the WWI era million plus genocide of Armenians by the Turks with the control-freak Erdogan?
Your turn, Richard, if you care.
Infidel says
Nagorno-Karabakh is not separate from Armenia: it’s an enclave within Armenia. Population wise too, it was Armenian, not Azeri, but the Soviets awarded it to Azerbaijan for some bizarre reasons (just like there are Tajik enclaves in Kyrgyzstan). And Russia made a decision to recognize that enclave as Azeri, despite its people being Armenian. The same people who maintain that Crimea shouldn’t belong to Ukraine b’cos their people are Russian
What the Russian peacekeepers have done is guarantee that Azeris can have a safe passage to Nagorno-Karabakh, and as a result of that, the latter has happily been damaging or destroying churches in that territory, while Armenians have fled to Armenia proper
Forget Armenia: in Kazakhstan, the regime there is doing a land jihad of the Russian dominated Kazakh Steppes, settling Kazakhs there so that Russians get displaced, and preferably leave for Russia. It’s important to note that Kazakhstan is inflated territory: the northern half of the country was traditionally always Russian, and it was only the Soviets that made it a part of Kazakhstan. If Putin is such a defender of
ChristianityRussian Orthodox Christianity, why doesn’t he do in North Kazakhstan what he did in Crimea, conquer and annex it, and settle a large number of Russians there? It’s not a desert: it could be the bread basket of Russia if he took it, and the Kazakhs would still have plenty of space, as well as their oilRichard says
Wellington “how many times has Russia under Putin raised the issue of the WWI era million plus genocide of Armenians by the Turks with the control-freak Erdogan?”
Russia acknowledged the Armenian genocide in 1995. Their PM laid a wreath at the genocide memorial in Armenia in 2016.
Richard says
Wellington “how many times has Russia under Putin raised the issue of the WWI era million plus genocide of Armenians by the Turks with the control-freak Erdogan?”
How many times have US Presidents welcomed the Islamist Erdogan with open arms?
Obama? Trump?
Despite Turkey’s glaring betrayals, the US president gave
Recep Erdoğan a glowing welcome last week in Washington.
Wellington says
So, Richard, you think Russia stands for liberty more than America has—over the past two centuries, past two decades?
And how many times has the Russian legislature acknowledged the Armenian genocide, contra the American legislature?
And overall, do you really think that Russia historically stands for liberty more than American historically has? Do you even comprehend why when WWII was coming to an end German civilians did everything they could to get to American or British lines lest they be captured by Russians? Or does this escape you too?
Richard says
Wellington says “So, Richard, you think Russia stands for liberty more than America has—over the past two centuries, past two decades?”
That is a strawman if I ever saw one.
I have nothing against the Russian people and I have nothing against Americans either. Both on the whole perfectly decent people.
Putin is pretty dictatorial and has a habit of bumping off his opponents. On the other hand, he has some good points when it comes to handling the world situation, much better than the idiots you have in charge at the moment. And I don’t buy into a false narrative, just because it aligns with someone’s hobby-horse.
And I am not a fan of Donald Trump either. Look at the way he lied about election results and then whipped up an innocent crowd to invade your centers of democracy and then abandoned them to their fate. Just look at the smiles he gave to your favourite Erdogan or the Saudi King murderer also. He’s nothing but a con man.
Can’t you guys find someone better to lead you?
CogitoErgoSum says
Can we find somebody better to lead us? Good question. I do like Trump but by 2024 he will be as old as Biden is now. Ron DeSantis is looking like a winner to me. If DeSantis does become President maybe Trump could take over for DeSantis’ as governor of Florida. (I’m more lenient about the upper age limit for governors.) But who knows what is going to happen over the next three years. I’m expecting a wild and bumpy ride.
Wellington says
Richard: Trump on January 6th said to the very large crowd assembled in DC to protest “peacefully and patriotically.” The fact that a very tiny portion of this crowd (less than 1%) took upon themselves to enter the Capitol (though some were waved in by Capitol police) in no way stains Trump. Meanwhile during 2020 Nancy Pelosi said amidst all the rioting that was going on, “I don’t know why there aren’t more uprisings, maybe there will be.” And Kamala Harris provided bail money to get thugs out of jail in Minnesota. Many other Democrats made inflammatory statements along the lines of what Nancy Pelosi said. But Trump is the instigator of violence. Right.
As for the 2020 election, you have to be blind to not see all the fraud and unconstitutional actions. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court violated the federal Constitution by extending the deadline for ballots to be received by three days. The Constitution gives sole authority to the state legislatures to determine everything about how a President is elected. Some 70,000 bogus votes have been found in Arizona. Some 20,000 dead people voted in Wisconsin. Unfolded ballots in large numbers were counted in Georgia. Counting of votes mysteriously stopped for hours in the early morning hours of November 4th. And most telling of all is that Biden got more votes than Obama did in 2012 ONLY in the cities in the five or six key swing states. Reconsider matters.
Richard says
Wellington “Trump on January 6th said to the very large crowd assembled in DC to protest “peacefully and patriotically.” The fact that a very tiny portion of this crowd (less than 1%) took upon themselves to enter the Capitol (though some were waved in by Capitol police) in no way stains Trump.”
This is incredible. Have you read or heard his speech?
What were they supposed to be protesting about? The lies that he had fed them with?
Do you believe that the election was stolen as he claimed?
That he added “peacefully and patriotically” in his speech to save his fat flabby hide, in no way exonerates him from inciting the crowd. He never told them not to not to enter the Capitol building.
Here are some excerpts from his speech:
“I know that EVERYONE here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
Emphasis mine He exhorted everyone to march on the capital, not 1%.
“You know, look, I’m not happy with the Supreme Court. They love to rule against me. I picked three people. I fought like hell for them.”
He expected the Supreme Court to do his bidding.
“States want to revote. The states got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.”
Do you believe that?
“And then we’re stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot and we have to live with that for four more years. We’re just not going to let that happen.”
We’re just not going to let that happen! What do you think that means to a bunch of people who hang on and believe every word he says.
“We’re gathered together in the heart of our nation’s capital for one very, very basic and simple reason: To save our democracy.”
One very basic tenet of western democracy is to respect the vote of the people and the peaceful transfer of power.
Your railing against Nancy Pelosi and Biden and the Democrats doesn’t change the facts. Trump is a liar and conman who cares for none but himself.
Find someone better to represent your country and your values rather than worship him like the Muslims worship Muhammad.
James Lincoln says
Richard says,
“Trump is a liar and conman who cares for none but himself.”
I get the fact that you did not like Trump’s presidency, and you’re certainly welcome to your opinion.
That being said, there have certainly been politicians that I did not like personally but voted for them because I supported their policies.
That being said, do you think that the United States is better or worse off with the current policies of Joe Biden versus the past policies of Donald Trump?
Wellington says
Richard: Actually, my “railing against Nancy Pelosi…” put enormous context to the facts and the facts are these: There is a huge double standard and one knows this or should know it. Over 500 violent riots occurred in America in 2020, causing billions of dollars of damages and many deaths, and the Democrats said nothing to oppose this, indeed they encouraged it with their tacit alliance with the thug groups which are Antifa and BLM. But one two-hour sit-in in the Capitol where a few windows were broken, a laptop stolen and the only person killed was a Trump supporter is Beyond the Pale. Holy Hell, get a grip and try for a little balance, though I think you by now completely incapable of this.
Trump said nothing that incited violence. But millions upon millions like Trump believe the election was stolen and I gave you several examples of such which you did not address—here’s another, over 11,000 affidavits signed upon penalty of perjury testifying to election fraud, including by prominent people like Pam Bondi, former AG of Florida. A Rasmussen poll in mid-October showed that 56% of those polled thought it “likely” that great amounts of cheating went on and 41% of those polled thought it “very likely.” If these percentages were just 10% of what they are, 5.6% and 4.1% respectively, you could dismiss all this as fringe elements. But you can’t dismiss 56% and 41%.
You also deceitfully implied that Trump exhorting all those who thought the 2020 election was stolen (it was; it’s the greatest political crime in American history) to march to the Capitol adds up to his wanting folks to break into the Capitol. Huge difference and you either can’t see this or do see this and are lying about it.
Wake the Hell up. The 2020 election was stolen and why don’t you address just some of the examples I gave, for instance what the Democratically biased Pennsylvania Supreme Court did respecting the counting of votes and which was completely, COMPLETELY, unconstitutional.
Your turn, doofus.
Richard says
James Lincoln says
“..do you think that the United States is better or worse off with the current policies of Joe Biden versus the past policies of Donald Trump?”
Better off with Trump. Biden is weak and ineffective. But thanks to him they will probably be voted out in the next election. I only hope you can get someone better than Trump to replace him.
Wellington
“Over 500 violent riots occurred in America in 2020, causing billions of dollars of damages and many deaths, and the Democrats said nothing to oppose this, indeed they encouraged it with their tacit alliance with the thug groups which are Antifa and BLM. But one two-hour sit-in in the Capitol where a few windows were broken, a laptop stolen and the only person killed was a Trump supporter is Beyond the Pale.”
You are not the brightest spark in the block.
This is what is known as a false dichotomy. I never condoned the violence by Antifa or BLM. You might as well have brought up the holocaust.
Who is responsible for the death of the Trump supporter? Trump. He is the fellow who sent her to her death. Who is responsible for the imprisonment of those people who invaded the Capital? Trump.
“The 2020 election was stolen and why don’t you address just some of the examples I gave, for instance what the Democratically biased Pennsylvania Supreme Court did respecting the counting of votes and which was completely, COMPLETELY, unconstitutional.”
How come Trump lost every case he filed? Is your justice system just about the worst in the world?
As for Pennsylvannia, this is what I found
“In practice, however, because of the ongoing lawsuit, those late-arriving ballots were separated out and have not yet been counted. The state has said that ultimately, fewer than 10,000 ballots were received during those three days. That small number of ballots would not have altered the outcome of the presidential election in the state, which former President Donald Trump lost by some 80,000 votes.”
Doesn’t sound like anything was stolen.
James Lincoln says
Richard,
Thank you for your reply.
Wellington says
Richard: I never accused you of condoning the violence in 2020 by Antifa and BLM. My point was to contrast Democratic silence about over 500 riots which resulted in many deaths and billions of dollars of property damage with the hysteria by the Left about a two hour sit-in in the Capitol where a few windows were broken, a laptop stolen and the only person killed was a Trump supporter. No proportion here. None at all. Better check your spark, might need a recharge.
I utterly reject your contention that Trump is responsible for the death of Ashli Babbitt. In fact, to aver such is disgusting. The person responsible for her unnecessary death was a Capitol policeman who had no business firing upon her. To blame Trump for this only conveys to me how skewered your moral compass is.
As for Pennsylvania in the 2020 election, I mentioned what I did about the Pennsylvania Supreme Court as just one of many shenanigans that occurred in the Keystone State. Hundreds of affidavits signed upon penalty of perjury were signed by witnesses testifying to fraud, especially in Philadelphia and its suburban counties.
Finally, the reason why the American judiciary has refused to look at the massive amount of evidence of election fraud is because the American judiciary is now largely peopled by Leftists, incompetents and cowards. There are still honest and brave judges out there but they are a declining number and, overall, the American judiciary is part of the problem and not part of any sound solution. I know many fellow lawyers agree with me about this, including my sister who, like myself, is an attorney and who long ago became disgusted with the various courts she has practiced in.
Done here.
gravenimage says
Who is responsible for the death of the Trump supporter? Trump.
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Actually, she was not even in the same room with the policeman who shot her, and she was not armed. She was not even tryign to open the door. There was no reason for her to be shot.
SAFI says
Exactly! The desperate Belarus dictator invited them in with the intention of using them as leverage to blackmail Poland and through it the EU… and he almost certainly got the idea by watching Turkeys Erdogan trying the same tactic about a year and a half ago at the start of the corona pandemic.
Hank says
“The importer of Muslims is the EU, and Angela Merkel, who imported 1 million of them in one fell swoop.”
+100
So true, well documented, and ongoing. The EU is a Leftist-Green Islamization project. It is the instigator of new and higher taxes. A Finnish acquaintance told me that electrical prices before entering the EU where 1/3 of what they are today. They’ve got you cornered even if you went EV. Could be the outrageous taxes by the socialists are needed to upkeep the welfare systems in Europe after Merkel’s import. No wonder the UK left.
SAFI says
In case you haven’t heard Merkel was recently voted out. Lukashenko, the guy responsible for the crisis at the Polish border, cannot be voted out, perks of being a literal dictator.
Yogi says
God bless Poland for protecting own borders and citizens..
gravenimage says
Putin Claims to be a Protector of Christianity. He’s Sending Muslims to Invade Poland.
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Appalling, but this should not surprise. Even though many think that Putin is an Anti-Jihadist, he has actually done a great deal of appeasing of Islam, and has said he considers it a bulwark against the attractive freedoms of the West. That he is doing this to a nation–Poland–that Soviets considered theirs by right is disgusting but not unexpected.
Wellington says
+1
Hank says
“Nagorno-Karabakh is not separate from Armenia: it’s an enclave within Armenia. Population wise too, it was Armenian, not Azeri, but the Soviets awarded it to Azerbaijan for some bizarre reasons (just like there are Tajik enclaves in Kyrgyzstan). And Russia made a decision to recognize that enclave as Azeri, despite its people being Armenian. The same people who maintain that Crimea shouldn’t belong to Ukraine b’cos their people are Russian” from @infidel above
Yes, hypocrisy is the name of the game. Putin keeps entertaining Islam and playing with fire. If he claims to be the protector of (Orthodox) Christianity then he should remember that the Muslims threw out and massacred the source of his Orthodox Christianity and culture in the Byzantine Empire, and gutted its capital Constantinople on 29 May 1453. If he keeps playing his double standards, he may soon have to practice winding on a Turban.
Byzantine Empire: “During most of its existence, the empire was the most powerful economic, cultural, and military force in Europe.” Wikipedia encyclopedia
gravenimage says
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OLD GUY says
Putin is a SNAKE!
somehistory says
Some people may not have known, or have forgotten, that putin was KGB before he was dictator…evidently for as long as he can dictate who “wins” the elections.
And yes, as a child of satan, he is a “snake.”
Really Now says
Enough of the faux outrage by Roman Catholic Poland. There are hundreds of thousands of Muslim illegal aliens crossing the Med to France and Italy. Their own pope tells them to throw open their borders and welcome them as brothers. Personally I think this is stupid, but if Poland wants to remain Poland it is going to have to find a way to leave behind Roman Catholicism and make peace with the Orthodox nations of the east.
gravenimage says
Really Now wrote:
Enough of the faux outrage by Roman Catholic Poland. There are hundreds of thousands of Muslim illegal aliens crossing the Med to France and Italy. Their own pope tells them to throw open their borders and welcome them as brothers. Personally I think this is stupid, but if Poland wants to remain Poland it is going to have to find a way to leave behind Roman Catholicism and make peace with the Orthodox nations of the east.
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Really Now, I’m afraid that many Russian Orthodoxy authorities have been appeasing Islam just as those in Catholicism has.
Are you unaware that Patriarch Kirill regularly lauds Islam? Here are some examples:
“I am sure that danger cannot come from Islam! In our person you will always find assistants and like-minded people and people who take to heart everything that is happening in Islam.”
“There may be deviations everywhere. There are Muslims who behave inappropriately. There are Orthodox who forget about their faith. Terrorism is a deviation from the norms of both Islam and Christianity. The Muslim world is a strong world, and other centers of power, fearing it, seek to demonize Islam. It is worth remembering that a person embarking on the path of murder betrays his religion and discredits it. Together we must defeat the propaganda machine directed against our spiritual values and resist the demonization of Islam in the name of its future,” the Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church emphasized.
Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill: “Once our president Vladimir Putin, and he is an Orthodox person, answered the question of journalists about the attitude of Orthodoxy towards Catholicism and Islam: “We are closer to Islam.” I think so too. From the point of view of traditions and moral morality, we are closer to Islam than to a number of Western Christian communities.”
“Like Islam, Orthodoxy is firmly on the dogma – the basis of morality, and looks with concern at the religious life of the West. She is degrading. And I think, to a large extent, this is what leads to tension between Muslims and the so-called “Christians.” When pious Muslims see what is happening, they cannot understand it. And this creates new discrepancies when even basic morality is missing.”
“My appeal to everyone – to the Orthodox and Muslims: live in peace, obey those commandments that everyone should fulfill in accordance with their religious obligations, and then there will be no enmity, because both Islam and Orthodoxy call people to peace and good relations with each other. And it cannot be otherwise. Because if people believe in God, they cannot sow evil around themselves, and even more so – they cannot hate each other” the patriarch said.
http://www.abkhazia-islam.ru/…/patriarh_kirill_-_pravda…
Insanely, he sees Islam as a bulwark against the freedoms of the West.
But, really, no nation should have to commit suicide because some of their current religious leaders are fools.
As for Poland needing to make peace with Russia, you seem to have things backwards. Poland is not threatening Russia. Putin, however, is frequently aggressive towards Poland and other former Iron Curtain countries. Many in Russia believe that that nation should have the right to continue persecuting any nations that were under there heel during the Soviet era.