The continual expansion of the Islamic State in Africa and now in the greater Khorasan region is of grave concern due to the strategic location of the region. This is the big reason why countries have prioritized the “humanitarian crisis” in Afghanistan but couldn’t care less about a worse humanitarian crisis sparked by the Islamic State in Africa.
So now, UN Special Envoy Deborah Lyons told the UN Security Council that more attention from the international community is needed. “The Taliban, she said, has been unable to stem ISKP’s growth.” Let’s hope against hope that the approach will not be to further legitimize the Taliban in efforts to control ISIS-K. The Taliban and the Islamic State groups are virtually the same, aside from waging war against each other for territorial control. To expect anything resembling “human rights” from the Taliban is sheer folly. Both groups aim to establish the Sharia regionally and globally, no matter how brutal they have to be in order to accomplish this.
“U.N. envoy says Islamic State now appears present in all Afghan provinces,” by Jonathan Landay, Reuters, November 17, 2021:
WASHINGTON, Nov 17 (Reuters) – The U.N. envoy to Afghanistan on Wednesday delivered a bleak assessment of the situation following the Taliban takeover, saying that an affiliate of the Islamic State group has grown and now appears present in nearly all 34 provinces.
U.N. Special Representative Deborah Lyons told the U.N. Security Council that the Taliban’s response to Islamic State-Khorasan Province’s (ISKP) expansion “appears to rely heavily on extrajudicial detentions and killings” of suspected ISKP fighters.
“This is an area deserving more attention from the international community,” she said.
Her comments came hours after the group — an ideological foe of the Taliban — claimed responsibility for two blasts that killed at least one person and wounded six others in a heavily Shiite Muslim neighborhood of Kabul. read more
The Taliban, she said, has been unable to stem ISKP’s growth.
“Once limited to a few provinces and the capital, ISKP now seems to be present in nearly all provinces, and increasingly active,” Lyons said, adding that the number of the group’s attacks have increased from 60 strikes in 2020 to 334 this year.
While the Taliban is making “genuine efforts to present itself as a government” since seizing Kabul in August after a 20-year war with the United States, they continue excluding representatives of other sectors of society and curtailing the rights of women and girls.
The U.N. mission regularly receives credible reports of house searches and the “extrajudicial killings” of former security personnel and officials, she said.
Lyons warned anew of a humanitarian catastrophe as winter looms due to a failing economy and drought.
She implored the international community to find ways to fund the salaries of healthcare workers, teachers and humanitarian workers, saying humanitarian aid is insufficient….
mortimer says
NATO will be forced to return to Afghastlistan to eradicate both ISIS and the Taliban. They should both be warned that if they do not voluntarily leave, they will be forced to do so.
NATO should begin planning the re-conquest of Afghanistan right now, because it will very soon be necessary.
Pakistan should be made to pay reparations to Afghanistan for destroying a FUNCTIONING COUNTRY, however, an admittedly imperfect one. Pakistan is in the same of category of functioning-but-imperfect.
PAKISTAN MUST PAY FOR WRECKING AFGHANISTAN.
Infidel says
No, it won’t. NATO should stay out, and let Afghanistan plunge into a civil war, and hopefully spill over into Pakistan
mortimer says
Infidel suggests a complete abdication of humanitarian responsibility while innocent people suffer. We have now all observed the hard heart of ‘Infidel’. Infidel has no compassion whatsoever, apparently for the Afghans victimized by the ISIS thugs.
ISIS will not give in because they believe that Allah is giving them the victory and they will continue as long as there is no resistance. They will move into India with weekly acts of terrorism
It is Pakistan that is responsible for this. The world tribunals should hold them accountable. That’s how we do things in the modern world, Infidel. Your dark and vicious thoughts are from the Bronze Age.
Infidel says
Mortimer
In case you’ve missed it – nobody else here in JW has – here it is:
I have zero compassion for any muslim. Period!
Fitna says
Mortimer, just stick to the subject and stop insulting and demeaning people for holding a different perspective than yours. Not that any of us here can do anything about fixing Afghanistan or any other nation anyways.
NATO is not going back to ‘AfPak’ as they’ve already proven their prior venture was a dismal failure, not to mention that it’s also a dysfunctional organization as well.
Gravenimage covered it quite well so I won’t re-trace her footsteps, except to say that the Afghanis themselves have proven they don’t want democracy or freedom, they want Islam.
The Afghan army couldn’t stand on its own two feet even though they were stronger, better equipped/armed and much larger as a force, because they see the Taliban as their brothers and they were just in it for the money the US was handing out.
I care nothing for the Muslim men there, but I do feel sorry for the girls and women, because they will experience the extreme brutality of Sharia law most of all. A vicious culture they were born into and never asked for.
They face violence and sexual abuse from their fathers and brothers, then they are forced to marry pedophiles who beat, torture and sometimes kill them.
Then the rest of their barbaric society-like the Taliban vice patrols, beats and slaughters them on the street for not wearing a hijab or for going to school, having a job, working for western forces and so on.
Wafa Sultan once made a great point. She said she was grateful to be able to buy a cup of tea from a shop in America on her own. She stated that can only happen when your entire culture reinforces the right of women to be independent and not have a guardian watching over her as they do in many Islamic nations.
The only way that Muslims will accept a ‘Jeffersonian democracy’ is if it’s forced on them and the occupying nation is willing to remain for a generation or so until it can function on its own and ofc Islam would have to be banned and the terrorists eradicated.
Western nations have proven they don’t have the stomach for the fight and they don’t care to nation-build. They had plenty of opportunity to “save Muslims” under Bush up to Biden but they all failed.
They even failed at their primary mission to wipe out all the terrorists. In fact under Biden they became stronger and ofc got a bonanza of some of the best military hardware available.
A terrorist group with barely $1 billion in assets now has $85 bln in gear they can sell off or use themselves to further consolidate their hold on the nation and impose an even harsher form of Sharia law.
Our cynical, sociopathic western leaders care nothing about the suffering of these women so until we get elites who are willing to eradicate Islam, nothing can be done for them.
If I was a girl in Afghanistan right now I’d look for a way to leave the country and if that wasn’t possible then I’d look for a safe, quick, fairly painless, reliable way to end my life, because what the Taliban has in store for them is far worse.
Left on their own-most Islamic nations would collapse and disappear in time without us non-Muslims giving them aid and support (and assuming they had no viable economy), esp if their females got smart and stopped having kids and ended their own lives.
Fitna says
Ofc if the muslim females died off, then Muslim men couldn’t reproduce, so when they’d die off, Islam would disappear with them. The world would be a better place if Islam and all its followers disappeared.
Many Muslim men from nations like Afghanistan would try to emigrate to other countries, but if we imposed strict rules on not allowing them to enter, then they’d never be able to pass on their genes or their insane beliefs/religion.
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
NATO will be forced to return to Afghastlistan to eradicate both ISIS and the Taliban. They should both be warned that if they do not voluntarily leave, they will be forced to do so.
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Mortimer, 99% of Afghans want Shari’ah law, and that means some Jihad group like the Taliban or ISIS.
You continue to demand that Infidels die for this–I don’t see why more Infidels should.
And Afghanistan never was a functioning country. The very fact that they are faced with starvation just weeks after Infidel food aid ran out shows that. As for the rule of law, they had *stoning* back on the books. *No* non-Muslim should have to die to defend this sick travesty.
Then, the claim that Infidels–including poster Infidel–have the *obligation* to risk their lives for Muslims so they are free to impose Shari’ah law is grotesque.
If you *aren’t* saying this, then you mean that Infidels should impose civilized law there, which is not wanted by the vast majority of the Afghan people, and which they will vote out first chance they get–along, of course, with waging an ongoing Jihad against American and other coalition forces there. Mortimer, how would this be any different with NATO at the helm?
Over 3500 Coalition troops died in Afghanistan, many at the hands of those Muslims who were supposed to be our allies. This became so common that there was even a word for it: green on blue violence.
And the Afghan army, despite being so much better trained and equipped than the Taliban, faded almost immediately. This should not surprise–many have said that Afghans just joined the army for a paycheck–not because they supported the Afghan government or anything it may have stood for.
Even the tiny percentage of Afghan Muslims who don’t want the Taliban did not fight to prevent it.
And note that despite *your* constant demands that NATO go back into Afghanistan, there is *no* such cry from Afghans themselves.
Can you point to *any* such calls from Afghans, or even from Afghan ex-pats? Because I haven’t seen any, and I have looked.
Then you switch gears and claim that NATO has to go back into Afghanistan to protect India. But Afghanistan has no border with India–Pakistan does. Pakistan is already launching Jihad terror attacks at India–are you also demanding that NATO take out Pakistan–including their nukes? Of course, you don’t say.
Pakistan is responsible for a lot of this, but the idea that the Afghans are somehow democracy-loving bystanders is absurd. No one forced most of them to openly pine for the imposition of brutal Shari’ah law as you pretend.
The idea that Infidels balking at dying for this barbarism is “vicious” and indicative of the dark ages is, I’m afraid, quite false.
And the idea that the essence of the modern world is dying for people who want to murder you and hate your way of ife is *quite* false.
James Lincoln says
Very true, gravenimage.
And may I add:
The 2004 Afghanistan Constitution said it all: “Afghanistan is an Islamic Republic”.
Not even a hint of a Jeffersonian democracy – as islam would trump everything.
The best that the Afghan army – and its supporters – could have accomplished would have been to have a less strict enforcement of sharia law.
http://www.afghanembassy.com.pl/afg/images/pliki/TheConstitution.pdf
Infidel says
I overlooked responding to Mortimer’s deranged prediction that ISIS will spill over into India. Two things on that one:
‣ISIS is already in India via Kerala, and via the very porus Bangladesh-Waste Bengal border. They don’t need Pakistan
‣Supine as the Modi government has been over the last 2 years, even they know how to maintain an airtight border w/ Pakistan
Mortimer is no different from keyboard jihadis that we have seen over the decades – from Nasseem to defenderofislam/Brian Hoff. He posts something deranged, and when challenged on it, moves on to the next topic where he continues playing Captain Obvious
Fitna says
Very well said Graven.
While I agree no non-Muslims (infidels) should risk their lives to save Muslims, I believe the ideology of Islam is a great danger to every man, woman and child on the planet, including Muslims.
Let’s not forget there was no such thing as a Muslim more than 1400 years ago. Islam was a disease imposed on others by Mohammad and his band of cutthroats and rapists.
All the nations that are ‘Islamic’ today were forced to be that way through thousands of jihads and invasions, forced conversion, genocides, enslavement and so forth.
So I think it is reasonable if infidels reconquered Islamic states and deconverted them back to infidel nations again, like our own.
Throughout history different ideologies were tried on human populations, like fascism, communism, Islam, capitalism, etc. And we’ve learned through trial and error that the western democratic system offers the most freedom and prosperity and peacefulness in general. So ideally all countries should have the same system of rule.
While ofc it’s not our duty, I believe for a better world, as we eliminated Nazism, the elimination of Islam should be our goal as well. Since Muslims are already here by the millions working to destroy our freedom and way of life and impose their Dark Ages, medieval barbarism on us.
Even if we don’t convert Islamic states, at the very least we must protect our own nations and prevent them from turning into more ‘Afghanistans.’
Hank says
“So I think it is reasonable if infidels reconquered Islamic states and deconverted them back to infidel nations again, like our own.”
It’s getting to that point. The pathogen of the mind keeps destroying nations (1400 years now). It’s even enthusiastically imported these days by the elite.
gregbeetham says
The West is still suffering Stockholm syndrome from the time of the murderous Saracen onslaught and then the incessant piracy and slave taking in the Mediterranean according to Dr Bill Warner, they abducted more than a million young girls and took them to a horrible fate and each coastal village they raided they murdered everyone else and finally classical civilization collapsed because trade across the Mediterranean collapsed and the dark ages began and you have ridiculous western leaders who are ignorant of history pompously claiming Islam is a religion of peace and ridiculous Muslims complaining about a, tiny by comparison, Crusade retaliation to stop Christians being persecuted in the Holy Land.
The West has never really comprehended properly what a scourge Islam actually is and treated it accordingly. Extermination might actually be the only answer or something along the lines China uses but the problem we have is there are too many bleeding hearts who are too stupid to want to save themselves and our way of life.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Fitna.
The problem is that unlike Germany in 1945, which was soundly defeated by the Allies, Hitler dead, and had only been Nazi for 12 years, and many Germans were *never* Nazis–the situation is very different with Muslim countries.
You are right that none of these countries started out Islamic–but many of them have been Muslim for centuries. Infidels either don’t exist at all–this is basically the case in Afghanistan–or they are a small, despised, and persecuted minority as in Pakistan.
I don’t think it is possible to civilize these countries. The vast majority of Muslims there would either refuse to convert or would only pretend to do so. We would be stuck there for decades, with much of the populace waging violent Jihad against us, and very few willing to defend any kind of democratic state.
This sounds grimly familiar…
Until recently, most of the Muslim world was kept isolated–and we were largely safe from Jihad.
I think we should return to this policy as much as possible.
gravenimage says
Good posts, James, Infidel, and Fitna.
gregbeetham says
China is going to have their work cut out for them with the place running rampant with adversarial groups of Taliban and ISIS frequently scuffling over the spoils; which will be control of the opium growing regions.
mortimer says
If the world sees the ruin that ISIS and the Taliban are creating, we can hope that Muslims around the world will also see how dysfunctional Islam truly is and how it has nothing but ruin to offer the modern world. There will be several millions of Afghan refugees soon the neighboring countries.
Infidel says
Every one of Afghanistan’s neighbors (except China) is muslim, and none of them will take in refugees. You saw the report some days back about how Iran is treating them. The refugees are not fleeing to Pakistan b’cos they know that Pakistan will turn them to the Taliban. There will only be Afghan refugees in countries stupid enough to take them
gravenimage says
Mortimer, Afghanistan is statistically 100% Muslim–very few Muslims there ever left their vicious creed, even when the US was still there. I see no reason to suppose that they are apt to start condemning Islam.
Fitna says
Mortimer, some Muslims might be turned off of Islam seeing how evil ISIS and the Taliban are, but most won’t care because they’re deeply brainwashed. Don’t forget due to Muslim inbreeding, they’re low-IQ and for generations from birth they’ve been indoctrinated into Islamic beliefs.
They is partly why they run away from Islamic countries to peaceful, prosperous freedom loving nations, because they recognize how much better they are, but due to cognitive dissonance, they’re unable to see that it was Islam that destroyed their country.
But they come here and start the whole process all over again, not realizing that if Muslims become dominant in western nations, then they too will become failed states under Islamic rule.
That is just one of the reasons I believe Muslims need to be kept our and deported from Islamic countries. I asked one Muslim colleague why he came to the West if Islam is so great. He said he’s here to spread Islam to our country and somewhat laughed about it. So for some of them it’s Hijrah.
As for the refugees, I think that is a good possibility. But hopefully the West shuts the door on them. They can go to their fellow Islamic countries-we have too many already.
Fitna says
*This is…
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by ‘Islam is so great’ I meant that Islamic states are their paradise on earth
excuse the typos/grammar
peace says
They come here (to the western countries) primarily for the social welfare, they guilt the dumb ass politicians into believing they are the victims and hold their hands out for everything they can bleed off the western taxpayers…
When you can’t get a job because you’re to fucking stupid & you have 3 or 4 wives and 12 to 15 kids that’s a very big social welfare check. The poor social welfare bureaucrat is way to scared (or woke) to deny them funds they just hand out the cash ..
From the muslims point of view it’s perfect, they can spend their time spreading the filth without having to work …..
Why wouldn’t they want to come here, their own corupt government does nothing for them except steal
gravenimage says
Agree, Fitna and Peace.
And Peace, another reason besides social welfare in the West is Hijira–Muslims are told to invade Dar-al-Harb and Islamize it, either through direct war or through migration, birth Jihad, and stealth Jihad (that, is, lawfare and other forms of Isamization).
mortimer says
Joe Biden abandoned Afghans to the Taliban and ISIS will no regard whatsoever for the hell they will now all go through.
Joe Biden qualifies for one of the most heartless men on the planet.
gregbeetham says
It wouldn’t have required many brain cells to be able to predict what would happen if the Taliban took possession of the country again so why didn’t the vast majority fight against such a thing occurring while they had the chance?
That they didn’t really lift a finger and let the foreigners that they despise do all the heavy lifting signifies that they have now got what they deserve.
gravenimage says
As I’ve noted elsewhere here, the vast majority–over 99%–of Afghans actually want Shari’ah law, so it is not surprising that none of them fought for the Afghan government–it was Islamic, all right, but not Islamic enough…
Hank says
Joe Biden imported and flooded the West (non-Muslim world) with hundreds of thousands of believers of the Quran due to the bungled Afghan withdrawal. It’s called “Bring the (perpetual) problem here, not the help there.”
“Bring the help there, not the problem here” Hungarian PM Victor Orbán
OLD GUY says
Hank sad to say you are right, Biden is bring the Islamic problem to America. As Islamic numbers increase in communities so will the violence against Christians. Thats the method of operation every where they gain a large enough population to control a neighborhood. You have to be a total IDIOT not to see what is happening in Europe, the U.K. and Africa with the Muslim/Islamic migration invasion.
gravenimage says
UN envoy: Taliban ‘unable to stem’ Islamic State growth as it spreads to ‘nearly all’ Afghan provinces
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Alien vs Predator…
Infidel says
There is a delicious irony in that this is exactly what the Ghani government was saying when the Taliban overran Afghanistan earlier this year. Right now, the Taliban has billion $$$ of our weaponry, and if they can’t defeat IS-K despite that, they’d deserve all the mockery they get
gravenimage says
Yep. In each case. these Jihad terror groups–the Taliban and IS-K–get a lot of support because they are both so Islamic.