Don’t you dare let them catch you failing to celebrate diversity. But those celebrations, like Muslim-Christian dialogue, go only in one direction.
“’Get lost, this is the land of Allah’: Muslims attack Catholic procession in France,” Medforth, December 11, 2021, translated from “Agression Anti-Chretien” by Nicholas Philippe, Twitter, December 8, 2021:
ANTI-CHRISTIAN ASSAULT. Today we celebrated the Immaculate Conception in our parish of Fontenelles in Nanterre. For this occasion, a short procession of 1 kilometre is organised in the evening, carrying the statue of the Blessed Virgin and singing songs to the Virgin.1/9
After only 100 metres, at our first stop, we were called names by passers-by…. Then several young men began to surround us, about ten in all, giggling as they insulted us 2/9
Then the giggling was followed by increasingly violent insults “children of whores”, “gang of whores”, then more and more Christianophobic words “This is not a cathedral,” “You are Kuffars, infidels,” “Get lost, this is not your country” 3/9
In view of the hostility of these youths, we decide to continue on the way of the procession. There they come closer to us, the insults become more and more violent and there is spitting on the ground in our direction. 4/9
The priest is the first to be attacked because he is leading the procession. He is spat at and then cold water is poured on him. Tension rises and the group that has surrounded us makes contact. “wallah on the Quran I will cut your throat.” 5/9
The priest explains that it is a procession dedicated to the Virgin. Nothing to do: “This is the land of Allah, f**k off”. More words are spoken in Arabic while several parishioners are violently pushed around by the youths 6/9
We were followed almost during the entire procession and insulted with the foulest possible language, which we drowned out with chants to the Virgin. Finally, calm returned only when we returned to the church where a police patrol was waiting for us because they had been called 7/9.
No one was hurt, but the parishioners were shocked by this inexplicable violence against a simple procession that was taking place in a peaceful atmosphere, had been authorised by the prefecture and was following a traditional route. There was hatred in their eyes without anyone being able to explain it in any way. 8/9
Honestly, the atmosphere is very stressful and it is becoming more and more complicated, even dangerous, to be a Christian in certain areas. I am not trying to excite compassion, but only to explain the verbal and physical violence faced by Christians in France 9/9
Fred Alan Medforth says
Competition to memorise hadiths calling for “shedding the blood” of infidels at the Grand Mosque of Paris
https://medforth.biz/competition-to-memorise-hadiths-calling-for-shedding-the-blood-of-infidels-at-the-grand-mosque-of-paris/
mortimer says
Discriminatory Sharia law says dhimmi have no right to practice their religion in public. The Pact of Omar is the default dhimmi code that Muslims automatically apply. It stipulates that Christians will not have public processions and display holy items that Muslims will see in public.
gravenimage says
Gimly spot on, Mortimer.
Here is the Pact of Omar:
We shall not manifest our religion publicly nor convert anyone to it…
We shall not display our crosses or our books in the roads or markets of the Muslims. We shall use only clappers in our churches very softly. We shall not raise our voices when following our dead. We shall not show lights on any of the roads of the Muslims or in their markets. We shall not bury our dead near the Muslims.
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/pact-umar.asp
*This* is what this Muslim mob was bent on enforcing.
Lion heart says
Man , these western politicians have no shame or zeal ! I promise if power were to be given to Christians who are originally from the middle east especially of Iraq in the West , they would kick all Muslims out as the scum saddam Hussein did to the scum Iranian mullahs followers in 1980s when they carried out terrorist stays k in Baghdad where he gave them an ultimatum of 48 hours to leave Iraq .
gravenimage says
Horrifying but not surprising, Fred. Thanks for the link to that ugly story.
Rufolino says
In the name of God will France please elect Eric Zemmour as President, and try to save itself.
Christopher Watson says
Unfortunately, Zemmour will never be elected to the Presidency. He is far too right-wing and will split the right-wing vote resulting in the defeat of himself and Le Pen. The ‘new’ President will be the walking calculator, Macron, who married his landlady or some other moronic non-entity. The power in all European nations is concentrated on the centre or moderate right; these are the people called ‘middle-class’ in Britain, or Bourgeois’ in France. These are financially comfortable, educated and very ‘moderate’ in their views. They are the ‘don’t rock the boat’ class, the ‘lets help the poor immigrants’ class. These are the people who are allowing the take-over by the middle eastern immigrants of whole areas of North-east Paris or whole towns in northern England. The same can be said of Germany, Sweden or Norway.
Violet C says
It’s to our own peril if western countries don’t smarten up and do a ‘return to sender’ for these hate filled people.
gravenimage says
Christopher, I’ve heard that the French system is set up differently so you don’t have split results. I hope this is the case.
somehistory says
This is the reality of islam…as Mr. Raymond Ibrahim has explained so skillfully, once the numbers get to a certain point, where the mozlums feel empowered by their sheer numbers, they feel that they have fully taken over and there is no room for others to worship in their own way.
The barracks are built as forts inside their enemies’ territory and when their army has become numerous, they demand submission to their evil ways.
It will only get worse because the numbers of mozlums continues to grow….everywhere.
They are not refugees, fleeing war. They are mozlums in the process of invading and conquering and colonizing every country on earth…for islam and only islam.
mortimer says
France brought former soldiers in the French army (African Muslims) to France as a reward for fighting in WWI and WWII.
gravenimage says
All true, Somehistory.
And Mortimer, if we want to see what those Muslims did during WWII, you only have to watch the harrowing classic film “Two Women”, starring Sophia Loren from 1960 about an Italian woman trying to protect her daughter from rape. There is no doubt that the Allies were the good guys during WWII, but France using Muslim troops from their colonies who frequently raped women is one obvious exception.
libertyORdeath says
People need to start recording as much of the chaos that is being caused by mass muslim migration to Europe. People need to see this type of hate and lack of appreciation for themselves or we’ll just keep getting fed stories about how poor and grateful they are to come to our countries as “refugees”.
Jim says
Well it does seem to me that Christians are like flower children offering olive branches, while the religion of peace takes a more assertive approach. Notice how they already claim to own France.
somehistory says
According to stats presented by Mr. Raymond Ibrahim, Christians are more often the victim of hate crimes than any other group, even though not all of the incidences of attacks are even listed when perpetrated against Christians.
and mozlums are the people doing the attacking in most instances.
PRCS says
“the parishioners were shocked by this inexplicable violence”
Why, after all the carnage carried out by Muslims against “unbelievers” in France, the UK, Sri Lanka, Nigeria, the U.S., Canada, and so many other places do the parishioners remain so dam clueless?
WTFU!
Violet C says
Your right…..it’s time politicians stop their cowardice and call this what it is. Their Koran tells Muslims to take over the world.
gregbeetham says
Yes, Muslims are compelled to promote Islam by using any means at their disposal, they have to do this in order to avoid being burnt for eternity in the afterlife, Jihad in its different forms is their guaranteed ticket to Jannah with endless booze and sex with 72 self renewing virgins’ horseshit. You would expect that it might appeal to a 7th century primitive desert bandit but you would think that anyone from the 20th or 21st century would develop doubts.
gravenimage says
Exactly, PRCS and Violet.
Michael Copeland says
“There was hatred in their eyes without anyone being able to explain it in any way.”
Someone – anyone – who has noticed what Islamic preachers say can explain it.
“As a muslim I must have hatred for everything which is non-Islam” – Anjem Choudary
“love the Muslims and hate the Kuffaar” – muslimsagainstvoting
“Muslims …must have … enmity and hatred of …kaffirs” – islamqa.com
It is canonical, from Koran 60:4 “…between us and you enmity and hatred forever….”
and so on: https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/02/islams-agenda-muslims-speak/
Fred Alan Medforth says
France: Goodbye to laicism
https://medforth.biz/france-goodbye-to-laicism/
Lavéritétriomphera says
We will never accept the partition of the country.
gravenimage says
And if part of the territory of France or any other nation were ceded to Muslims, it would *never* end there–it would just embolden them ti take it all.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonjour gravenimage,
Examine French history, when lobbies became increasingly powerful the kings destroyed them. The Fronde of the Princes is (among others) an example of that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fronde.
Political Islam is not wanted by the French Government and its people.
Amitiés
gravenimage says
I hope you are right, Lavéritétriomphera.
gravenimage says
France: Muslims attack Catholic procession, ‘This is the land of Allah,’ ‘On the Qur’an I will cut your throat’
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Deeply disturbing–and more proof that Muslims already consider France to be theirs, and are happy to enforce that through murder.
And the police did nothing to stop it, and did not appear to have arrested any of the agressive Muslims. At best they allowed the Christians to return to their church without the Musilims forcing their way in..
More:
There was hatred in their eyes without anyone being able to explain it in any way.
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This is only true if you have never read the Qur’an or have even a glancing understanding of Islamic history, which is all too common all over the West.
Kenneth J Johnson says
Muslems, in a Christian country, attack a Christian religiouss event, shouting “Get lost, this is not your coiuntry” Will france need to resort to violence to ragain her country???
KEN
gravenimage says
France needs to enforce her own laws.
fadeye@yahoo.com says
CRUSADE!!! #ItsPastDueTimePeople!
Violet C says
Agree!!!!
tim gallagher says
France seems a long way down the road to destruction when you read about incidents like this. 8% Muslims in any country’s population is too many and France is surely in trouble. I wonder whether the Pope will have anything to say about this. There are some good Muslims, despite the evil content of Islam, but I think that basically there is no getting along with Muslims in any non-Muslim society. You will never get Buddhists or Hindus attacking a Christian procession in the way these Muslims, who are so intolerant of any people who haven’t submitted to Islam, have done. It is a waste of time trying to get along with Islam, a total waste of time. An exercise in futility which 1400 years of Islam should have made perfectly clear.
gregbeetham says
Tim I think the so called ‘good’ Muslims in any Western country are good because they assume they have already earned a ticket to Jannah by virtue of spreading Islam to a foreign land and can afford to be rather lax as far as Jihad is concerned and we interpret those ‘nice’ Muslims as being representative of Islam, big mistake, their offspring aren’t covered by that stipulation so as time goes on the real horror of Islam becomes more and more apparent, much to the regret of those who basked in ignorance about the real Islam.
Yes you are perfectly correct you can’t make accommodations to Islam or appease Islam because it can’t be changed, it can only be eliminated, that’s the only choice they offer us, China has the answer, I don’t think we need to convert them into body parts but we sure can make them follow our laws which contravene Islam fundamentally and once we do that we might see riots and chaos (with no accommodation forthcoming from us) and we might then see an exodus which would be a wonderful outcome.
It is possible, it took 700 years to get rid of them out of Spain but it is possible.
tim gallagher says
Yes, I agree with what you say, gregbeetham. I can’t see any way of getting along with Muslims. I do come across some good Muslims. Maybe they are merely nominal Muslims, who don’t care much about their religion at all. I can’t say I know them well enough to say that I really do know them. What I said above about how Buddhists and Hindus would never attacks a Christian religious procession says it all for me. I believe that we can get along fine. At least that is my experience of how things are going out here in Australia. But, as always, in every country, Muslims cause the same problems everywhere they go. My answer is to try to keep them in their own Muslim countries because I sincerely believe that it is pointless to try to get along with them. Their intention is to impose Islam on all of us. It always has been and always will be. I didn’t know that it took 700 years to get the Muslims out of Spain. Looks like we are in for a very long struggle in the future..
gregbeetham says
Yes the Muslims invaded Spain quite early in the conquest after sweeping across largely Christian North Africa and converting farmlands that the Romans had carefully cultivated into desert through overgrazing because the Muslim invaders were herders of sheep and goats and not really interested in farming and didn’t look after the irrigation system.
Dr Bill Warner carefully investigated old records and found around 200 battles that were conducted in Spain, it was said that the Saracens had a pile of heads so high that a man on horseback couldn’t see over it. Anyway the good Doctor has a video of what he calls a dynamic battle map which steps forward in 20 year increments and the battles appear as white dots and fade to red, it is quite something to behold as the onslaught against Spain and Europe by Islam progresses.
It seems that very little of the history of Jihad through the centuries is known by present day Muslims but they have heard about the terrible Crusades of course, which turn out to be a pinprick by comparison with the expansion of Islam and the death of millions as a result.
The Mediterranean became infested with Muslim pirates and a large sex slave industry sprang up where villages on the southern European coast would be attacked without warning and most put to the sword except the young females who were taken back to be sold in hellholes like Tripoli.
Islam has been a scourge since it began and continues to be so by any means possible. Dr Bill Warner attributes the dark ages to the collapse of trade across the Mediterranean which resulted in a collapse of classical European civilization and all brought about by hordes of Muslim pirates and the never ending coastal attacks and invasions from all directions.
tim gallagher says
That’s interesting information. You are right about how barbaric and murderous Muslims always seem to have been. How anyone can get this imbecilic idea that islam is peaceful is beyond me. I agree that the Crusades were a pinprick, as you put it, and totally necessary, in response to the murderous invasions by the Muslims. I suspect that Europe and many other parts of the world are going to have to throw the Muslims out again in the future. Of course Burma threw its Muslims out some years ago, no doubt fed up with the endless trouble that Muslims always cause wherever they are allowed to live in non-Muslim lands. On what you say that Bill Warner said about islam’s role in causing the Dark Ages, one thing is for sure, wherever Islam does gain power, there is definitely going to be the darkest of barbaric Dark Ages imposed on that society. Islam’s got nothing but a barbaric way of life to offer humanity.
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Tim and Greg.
gregbeetham says
Thankyou gravenimage.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Greg. I always look for your posts–and Tim’s, as well.
tim gallagher says
Thanks, gravenimage. Your own comments are always very much worth reading. I was out playing golf today so I only just read your comment as I just now arrived home. It was very pleasant summer weather in Sydney today so it was enjoyable playing golf today. I’ve just fed the cats who are always very hungry by the time i get home after being away for several hours playing golf.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Tim.
Unlike for you Antipodians, the weather here has actually been unseasonably cold, with lots of snow not just in the Sierra, but also at the higher elevations locally. Of course, I should never complain about the weather here… And our cats always like their bowls full, even when they aren’t hungry!
Violet C says
It is possible to get them out much faster….and we cannot be fooled by so called moderates. The Koran tells them to be deceitful / to lie in order to take control & turn everyone and everyplace Muslim.
gregbeetham says
Unfortunately our leaders everywhere in the West are still operating under the delusion that Islam is a religion when it isn’t just a religion it is a subversive political cult first and foremost with religious trappings to disguise what it really is. It also preaches hatred and aggression toward all those who are not members of the cult but disguises that if deemed necessary by using many facets of deception.
Occasionally that false veil is unmasked and we see the real Islam as in this case but our stupid leaders fail to understand what they are seeing.
Donovan Nuera says
But. …but I thought Maryam was honored to be mentioned the most of any woman in the koooooran?????? I thought they “revered” her and her son “Issa”????? Hmmmmmm…..
gravenimage says
Yes–this is always Taqiyya for the credulous Infidels.
Holger Kruger says
WE ARE NEARLY 10 MILLIARD PEOPLE ON EARTH.
MUSLIM BETWEEN 1,7 MIA – AND 2,0 MIA.
8 MIA TO ALL OTHER RELIGIONS.
SO, WHO IS IN AT THE LOWEST GROUP?
IF YOU IN SOMEWAY CAN MAKE THE 8 MIA TO WORK TOGETHER, MUSLIM NOT
HAVE A CHANCE…
OLD GUY says
Muslim’s attack Christians? WOW that can’t be, the political leaders and Pope keep telling me that Islam is all about love and peace. Must be some mentally sick Muslims who got out of the institution for the mentally ill. OR NOT. Maybe it was a HATE CRIME.
WPM says
The Pope will hop on over to French to wash more Moslem feet for Christmas that should solve the problem in his progressive addled communist mind! Maybe some “interfaith” meeting with the head muk-a-muk Islamic leaders to say capitalism cause the mostly “peaceful” protest of Pro-Islamic” underemployed” youths to speak “out of turn” in a slightly aggressively manner at a Catholic “festive” event!
hammar says
Someone should tell him mohammed was no prophet to begin with but a killer
and pillager. Nothing more.