He wants Islamic countries to do this in order to fight “Islamophobia.” He did not address the passages in the Qur’an and Sunnah that call for warfare against and subjugation of unbelievers, despite the fact that they are the main reasons why people are suspicious of Islam.
“PM calls for joint response by Islamic countries to counter Islamophobia,” Radio Pakistan, December 18, 2021:
Prime Minister Imran Khan has warned if international community does not timely assist Afghanistan, there will be a huge humanitarian crisis that may turn the country into a haven for international terrorists once again.
In an interview with Al Jazeera TV, he said whatever the international powers did in Afghanistan was insanity, as they tried to achieve their objectives through war.
He said the situation in Afghanistan is very difficult for Pakistan because if Afghanistan goes into chaos once again Pakistan would be the worst sufferer of it.
He mentioned that Pakistan has already suffered a lot due to decades of instability and war in Afghanistan.
To a question regarding Islamophobia, he stressed for a joint response on the part of all Islamic countries to make the West understand the true spirit of Islam.
He said terrorism has no relationship with Islam or any other religion but unfortunately due to lack of an intellectual response by Muslim leaders the phenomenon of Islamophobia got propagated….
somehistory says
If they do, more terrorism, more committing of mass murder, more kidnapping, more rape, and a whole lot more lying about these vile acts of terrorism afterward, claiming to be the victims of all of it, while the perps brag , boast and strut.
raja says
Somehistory,
These scums want more jihad and can never be content with throat slitting jihad, rapes as they want more and more. Mass migration remains antithetical to God’s plan in addition to all the lawlessness that comes with it. Acts 17 : 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation.
Pak is bankrupt and perhaps the PM wants to go around with a begging bowl in the global ummah for the best of the peoples and the land of pure (Pakistan).
somehistory says
It will never be enough for them. If there were two mozlums left on earth after slaughtering everyone else, they would fight to the death in order to satisfy their lust for killing and to gain their fake *reward* due to murdering for their false ‘god.’
mortimer says
‘somehistory’ makes sweeping generalizations about Muslims which do not match the data in dozens of surveys and polls in the last 20 years. He makes things about and mixes in large amounts of venom. This is not what we are doing here. Most Muslims don’t imitate Mohammed or want to.
somehistory says
mortimer, the mozlum resident pretending to be Christian, and with such abundant knowledge and memory for all of the texts of filth, likes to attack someone who has no love for islam and is willing to use our God-given Freedom of Speech, to express the Truth about mozlums and their foul, demonic creed.
mortimer pretends to be against islam, but shows his true colors in attacks on those who expose the Truth about those humans who have chosen to be children of satan the devil.
As Christ said, “You are from your father the devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father.” Jesus made sure to let His audience know that satan is a “murderer” and a “liar”…being the “father of the lie,” and responsible for all murders.
That fact makes the children of satan murderers and liars.
If mortimer was truly Christian and not mozlum, he would have to acknowledge that Scripture from Jesus Christ.
Keep on attacking me, mort. I don’t care. It just proves my points.
James Lincoln says
mortimer,
Please reread somehistory’s post – and tell us all exactly what you disagree with.
somehistory says
James,
thank you!
Wellington says
I am absolutely certain I know “the true spirit of Islam” and which is why I loathe it. There are few certainties in life, if any, that I am more certain of than that Islam is the longest-lived and best-disguised malevolent ideology in man’s history.
Islam is inimical to liberty, equality under the law, common sense, fair play, the capacity to apologize for past wrongdoings, women’s rights (and I mean REAL women’s rights here and not the subordinate crap expected of women if they are to be “honored” by the Muzzie world), and a whole host of other positives that Islam is utterly opposed to. Indeed, the fact that Islam is still around at all only serves as a testimony to the capacity of man to engage in massive folly at times. Yeah, this awful.
I deny Islam most everything. Its Allah is a fiction, its chief hoy book is a hate manual, its reputed founder is the most compromised religious founder in history considering his enormous nefarious characteristics and influence, and its overall dictates as evidenced by its major schools of theology to this very day are replete with recipes for the closing of the mind and repression of the human spirit overall.
Indeed, Islam is way overdue to be consigned to the trash heap of history. And the fact that it still is not is due first and foremost not to all the deluded adult Islamic believers out there, reprehensible and moral idiots though they be, but because the West has gone into stupid mode since the 1960’s and for reasons of overall ignorance, avarice, self-loathing, general stupidity and for many other excuses masquerading as arguments. In short, the prolonged life of Islam in our era is DIRECTLY due to the dumbing down of the West in our era. Miss this and you will miss a lot.
Were the West as sharp as it could be (sadly far from it), Islam by now would be the laughing stock among world religions, the turd in the punch bowl of world religions, the greatest religious mistake in man’s history. The fact that Islam is not utterly ridiculed and dismissed by now only serves as arguably the greatest example of the West at its worst. Yeah, this awful.
tim gallagher says
Well said, Wellington. A good summary of Islam’s nature. And I agree that many people in the western world seem to have lost the appreciation they once had for the very decent way of life and the great achievements of western civilisation and seem to want to spend their time putting the western way of life and its achievements down and they seem to also fall for the absolute crap about how Islam is basically a peaceful and worthwhile religious ideology. How anyone can’t see what a vicious, evil religious ideology Islam is, is beyond me. As you mention, this Muhammad character, who I don’t believe existed anyway, was a horrendous creature. He was the type of lowlife scumbag that no religion should ever be built on. Islam should definitely have been rejected by humanity ages ago and should have gone the way of the old Aztec religion.
Wellington says
Thanks for your reply, tim.
Yes, no question about it, Islam is a burden to all the world, including to Muslims themselves, oblivious though many be of this (including Dr. Oz, running for the Senate from Pennsylvania, my home state, and for whom I will definitely not vote for).
The “only” problem is the non-realizing of this by now. Way overdue this “realization.” None greater.
tim gallagher says
Yes, Wellington, there is so much that is obviously morally wrong in islam that almost everyone should have got the message by now. Over 40,000 Muslim terrorist attacks all around the world since the 9/11 attacks, the pedophilia with the child brides, the honour killing over trivial offences. If only most people would wake up all our countries would deal appropriately with islam by slamming the door on Muslim migration into our countries.
gravenimage says
Good exchange.
And imagine if you were going to invent a figure, would it be *anything* like the appalling “Prophet” Muhammed–unless you were defining a villian?
tim gallagher says
Yes, gravenimage, this Muhammad creature is such an unbelievably nasty, evil person to be put forward as the chosen one of any type of god. It is bizarre. I suspect that Muhammad never actually existed and so I think that the men who made him up, and thought that a god would approve of such a scumbag of a human being, had to be extremely evil, totally barbaric creatures themselves. Islam seems to have no high ideals at all for its adherents to try to live up to. All very convenient if a person is an evil type of person. All the evil they feel like doing is approved of by islam.
gravenimage says
Agreem, Tim. But whether historical or made up, Muhammed is a grotesque figure to consider the perfect man and model–for this age or any other.
Michael Copeland says
Quiz IV: Eighteen Clues
https://gatesofvienna.net/2021/12/quiz-iv-eighteen-clues/
tim gallagher says
Thanks for that, Michael. Interesting points made by many commenters who do know quite well what the “true spirit of islam” is.
savvyone says
Where are the Crusaders who are so badly needed? Too many think we have to go along to get along. You know….don’t poke the sleeping snake.
mortimer says
The ‘true spirit of Islam’ is here:
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 2:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 3:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 4:71-72, 74-077, 84, 89-91, 94-95,100-104; 5:33, 35, 82; 8:1, 5, 7, 9-10, 12, 15-17, 39-48, 57-60, 65-75; 9:5, 12-14, 16, 19-20, 24-26, 29, 36, 38-39, 41, 44, 52, 73, 81, 83, 86, 88, 92, 111, 120, 122-123; 16:110; 22:39, 58, 78; 24:53, 55; 25:52; 29:6, 69; 33:15, 18, 20, 23, 25-27, 50; 42:39; 47:4, 20, 35; 48:15-24; 49:15; 59:2, 5-8, 14; 60:9; 61:4, 11, 13; 63:4; 64:14; 66:9; 73:20; 76:8.
gravenimage says
So true, Mortimer.
gravenimage says
Pakistan’s Khan calls on ‘Islamic countries to make the West understand the true spirit of Islam’
………………..
Since the “spirit of Islam” is violence and savagery,. this sounds like a threat. So now Muslims will attack Westerners if they don’t fund the barbaric Taliban.
More:
Prime Minister Imran Khan has warned if international community does not timely assist Afghanistan, there will be a huge humanitarian crisis that may turn the country into a haven for international terrorists once again.
………………..
Grimly hilariuous–as though the *bloody Taliban* are not terrorists. Of course, Khan supports them.
Why does Imran Khan believe that Infides should fund Jihad terrorists? Because in Islam the Kyuffar have to poay Jizya or tribute.
Infidel says
Not just that, even IS-K is there. Looks like what Imran Khan fears is that the latter will support the Uyghurs, and that incur the wrath of Beijing against all parties in the area – IS-K, Taliban and Pakistan
gravenimage says
Yep.
Westman says
“..make the West understand the true spirit of Islam.”
“Make”, suggests the use of coercion – not a good legacy for any religion.
An influential religious man said, “By their fruits ye shall know them”.
What is Islam by this test? What are its fruits? Do they they suggest peace and respect toward non-Muslims?
somehistory says
Nicely done, Westman.
Doomer says
It is Gaslighting!
Ok, like what Mustafa Akyol,Turkish Muslim who is a member of the Cato Institute (Libertarian) does.
Fact is,Libertarians pride themselves on being very smart and using reason,but the Cato Institute people don’t show it.
a) Akyol in 2012 wrote “Islam without Extremes: A Muslim Case for Liberty” where he says Islam is highly compatible with classical liberalism and Enlightenment values.
b) In 2019 he gave a lecture “Islam, Freedom, and Natural Law: Ancient Wisdom for a New Enlightenment”.
c) In 2021 he wrote “Reopening Muslim Minds, A Return to Reason, Freedom, and Tolerance”
He and Danios-Javed Hashmi ( who debated Robert Spencer) use one or more of the following doctrines that are tricks:
1. Taqiya: based on sura 16:106, where a Muslim can deny Islam because of CIRCUMSTANCES, but inside he believes.
Hopefully,it would be TEMPORARY
2. Kitman: it is to sin by OMISSION. A Muslim says:”There are several verses in the Quran that say to Free a Slave.”
However, he knows and doesn’t say sura 24:33 makes it Conditional,if the Master Thinks the slave Deserves it. ( Kitman due to CIRCUMSTANCES )
Hopefully,it would be TEMPORARY
3. Peace Treaty of 10 Years with Non-Muslims: based on the Treaty of Hudaybiya,between Mohamed and the Meccans (non-Muslims). It is for Muslims to recover. Then,after 10 years, to attack the non-Muslims.
Again,due to CIRCUMSTANCES.
It is meant to be TEMPORARY
4. MASLAHAH ( doctrine of Public Interest): created by AL-GHAZZALI 1000 years ago, he is the Greatest and Most Influential Muslim Theologian in history.
He said Muslim scholars and savants could ,due to CIRCUMSTANCES, declare that aspects of the Quran were Forbidden to world Muslims.
Hopefully,it would be TEMPORARY
It was used by scholars in the 19th century, in the Ottoman empire, to Forbid Slavery, due to pressure from the West ( France and the UK).
The Final Revelation: it is the QURAN
In fact there is the “Mother of the Book” ( original Quran ) in the presence of Allah,in HEAVEN:
a) Sura 43:4: “And indeed it is, in the Mother of the Book with Us, exalted and full of wisdom.”
b) Sura 13:39:”Allah eliminates what He wills or confirms, and with Him is the Mother of the Book.”
c) Sura 85:21-22:” But this is an honored Qur’an, in a PRESERVED TABLET.”
Here is the deception of Akyol,he says some Muslim interpretation Allows for NATURAL LAW
1) Natural Law is the ETHICS obtained Solely by Reason,No Divine Inspiration. The ethics in history usually obtained that way is the Golden Rule-Law of Reciprocity(Do to others as you would have them do to you).
2) Some of the rules in the Mother of the Book of the Quran are Against the Golden Rule ( like right to beat your wife ). For that reason Virtually All Muslim scholars have
Rejected the Concept of Natural Law, it contradicts some of the Divine Laws of the Heavenly Mother of the Book.
3) Akyol argues some Muslim interpretations allows Islam to ACCEPT the Concept of Natural Law and by logic, the right to freedom of speech, freedom of the press,etc,all
of the 30 Human Rights of the 1948 Declaration of Human Rights ( 2 of the 3 authors were Practicing Christians: CHARLES MALIK of Lebanon, and ELEONOR ROOSEVELT, the 3rd was Chinese philosopher Peng Chun Chang).
4) And it is true,but Akyol does Not tell his listeners that in those interpretations the acceptance of Natural Law is MASLAHAH ( due to CIrcumstances) and is meant to be TEMPORARY.
If later Muslims become the Most Powerful Group in the World ( Economically, Technologically)
the Divine Laws of the Quran have to be RESTORED, Natural Law has to be rejected.
mortimer says
Yes, the ‘Islamophobia’ smear is pure GASLIGHTING and it is also PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION.
Doomer says
The taqiya is evident regarding the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD( which wants to restore the Caliphate, eliminated in 1924).
1.Regarding the West their plan is Peaceful Conquest, via Infiltration.
2.It involves using taqiya. How? By openly supporting the LGBTs,like Ilhan Omar and other Muslim women do,something it secretly hates (lesbian, homos, bisexuals, transgenders).
3.Muslims ,unlike Leftists ( very important detail) are Not Only willing to Kill for their ideas ( like Leftists)
they are willing to DIE for them (unlike Leftists). That is why in a war between them Muslims will win.
gravenimage says
Yes–claims that Islam is compatible with freedom and democrdacy are all Taqiyya.
Infidel says
Like others have pointed out above, too late, Mr Niazi: we already understand the true spirit of islam. Which is why we loathe it, and its champions, such as you
savvyone says
Where are the Crusaders who are so badly needed? Too many think we have to go along to get along. You know….don’t poke the sleeping snake.
Infidel says
Thing w/ Crusaders is that they don’t know how to focus on one enemy. The ‘Second Crusade’ was hijacked into the sacking of Constantinople, and today’s equivalent of Crusaders target people of all religions for conversion, except muslims!
gravenimage says
Yes–some of the later Crusades were an embarassing mess, sadly.
mortimer says
Khan said terrorism has no relationship with Islam.
Koran 8.60 says “TURHIBUNNA” (terrorise them).
That’s a clear decree from Allah.
mortimer says
Pakistan nurtured the Taliban, Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. Perhaps they will now pay a price for it.
somehistory says
OT
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/reassignment-of-popular-teacher-for-wearing-a-hijab-in-classroom-stirs-outrage-over-quebec-
“Reassignment of popular teacher for wearing a hijab in classroom stirs outrage over Quebec law”
She broke a law. But, that doesn’t matter, cause she’s mozlum and they are supposed to be allowed to do as they wish, law or not. that’s the spirit of islam.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link, Somehistory.
somehistory says
You’re welcome, g.
David M says
Imran better hope Allah doesn’t actually exist, because if he does Imran will burn in hell for being a bad Muslim when he was a globe trotting playboy cricketer leading a decadent western style life. Hey Imran, was Allah looking the other way for those 10 years?
Hank says
It would help counter Islamophobia if PM Khan and Ilhan Omar would define what kind of Phobia is at play when groups of Quran activated and energized Muslims fly fully loaded passenger planes into high rise towers (911), behead infidels, stab Sir David Amess, knife attack Christian preacher Hatun Tash in Hyde Park Speakers Corner, suicide attacks, FGM, “honor” killings, et al.
“Pakistan’s Khan calls on ‘Islamic countries to make the West understand the true spirit of Islam’”
True. Even though the various forms of jihad have destroyed trust-based societies and have made the world unsafe, the West doesn’t have a clue about the Quran, it’s teachings and spirit – and continue to import “the Spirit of Islam” by the millions while dumping its own Judeo-Christian beliefs, culture, values and traditions.
Tuvia Fogel says
True, ALL Muslim countries are shitholes, but Pakistan takes the cake: it is truly the world’s anus. If you want to see Islam in its authentic seventh-century savagery you needn’t go to ISIS-held Syria, or Boko Haram-held Nigeria, or al-Shebab-held Somalia. It is enough to visit ANY village in the Paki countryside, where ‘councils of elders’ decree the public rape of young girls, where Christians and Shi’ites are killed every day of the year and everyone vociferously supported both the massacres of 170 infidels in Mumbai in 2008 and of 150 students in Peshawar in 2014. The most supremacist and aggressive form of Islam in the world, born in India but mostly practiced in Pakistan and called Deobandi, makes garden-variety preachers of jihad sound like Franciscan friars. The ‘grooming’ and sexual abuse of infidel girls that went on for years in the North of England was perpetrated almost entirely by Pakis. I could go on, but you get my drift. If Pakistan slid into the Arabian Sea tomorrow night, humanity would lose NOTHING.