As I’ve often noted, women are treated essentially as commodities in Islamic law. This sort of thing is consequently bound to happen.
“Sheffield mum’s horror as gang of men offer cash to ‘buy’ her young daughter,” by Claire Lewis, The Star, December 2, 2021:
South Yorkshire Police said the woman was walking her daughter to school when she was approached by a group of three men who produced a ‘large amount of money’ and offered to ‘buy’ the young girl.
PCSO Kenneth Blake, of South Yorkshire Police, said the horrified mum ‘ran towards’ nearby Lower Meadow School and heard the ‘screech of car tyres’ as the men drove off in the direction of Dyche Lane.
The man from the group who offered the cash was of possible Middle Eastern origin.
He was in his late 30s or early 40s and was wearing a grey hoody with stripes down the side.
He was also wearing dirty navy bottoms and a head warmer, which partially covering his face.
PCSO Blake, of the Sheffield South West neighbourhood policing team, said: “At approximately 8.20am on December 1, a local resident was walking her daughter to Lower Meadow School along Batemoor Road. A male, of possible Middle Eastern origin, along with two other males, have approached the mother, taken out a large amount of money and offered to buy the daughter.
“The mother has refused and ran towards the school with her daughter.
“The mother then heard a screech of car tyres and a black/ blue vehicle has made off towards Dyche Lane, with the three males inside….
Last month, police in Doncaster launched an investigation into reports that another mum was approached by a group of men in Primark in the town centre who offered a ‘good price’ for her daughter as they followed them around the shop….
Keith O says
Buying another human is classed as slave trading.
Interesting to see that the slave trade is still alive and flourishing within the mudslime world, no matter where they invade.
I’ll bet the police don’t overextend themselves hunting down these animals.
Check Burry says
PCSO,s are about as useful as the chocolate fire guard, no powers of arrest, no weapons to defend self or brits, true brits. These talis wont take any notice of them or our cops either unless in large numbers. We are importing death, via normal immigration, and the channel.
Write to your almost powerless MP folks, see how far that gets you.
somehistory says
Typical behavior of those persons who follow satan….anything goes…anything they want is allowed…They knew it was **wrong** because they fled when they saw that the woman was running away to a place of safety with her daughter.
Had they believed that it was *lawful* in the land, they would not have felt the need to “screech tires” in a hurry to get away from possible apprehension. Had they been a part of the taliban still in afghanistan, they would have demanded the child and not offered to pay anything. They are *aware* of the laws of the U.K., even if they disobey those laws.
Immoral sons of the devil…evil and without any hint of morality.
Keith O says
Somehistory, Why is it that every time some slime ball does slime ball things people attribute it to “Satan”?
Evil as you know it only lives in the hearts and minds of humans. Didn’t your God give you all free will?
My people do not believe in the entity you call Satan/ the devil. We have understood for thousands of years that acts of “evil” are just a glitch in the behaviour patterns of the mind.
Come to understand this and you will look at the world in a different light! and maybe, just maybe you will come to understand the fragility of the human mind that allows humans to do shitty things to other humans.
Thinks of it this way. If your God is all knowing and all powerful, why doesn’t hell kill off Satan and allow his kids to live in peace? Remember, he/she/it gave you free will.
Your choice!
And that does not mean that I approve of the behaviour of these animals in any way shape or form!!!!
somehistory says
Keith O,
Yes, “my” God gave me free will to make choices about what I wish to do…obey Him or make all decisions for myself without caring what He wishes for me. He made all humans to be the same.
But, just as a guy who owns property that he rents to others has the legal rights to decide what the renters do with his property, God has the legal rights to decide if what His creation is doing is approved by Him or if He will *evict* them.
The Bible book of Job explains **why** God has not already gotten rid of satan. And there is a Proverb that says, “Be wise my son and make my heart rejoice, that I may make a reply to him (satan) that is taunting me.”
God could have just eliminated satan that very first day when he seduced Eve into disobedience. He didn’t do that because the other angels were watching and could have concluded that God was somehow afraid of the challenge to His *right to rule.*
This also gave time for Adam and Eve to have children who could choose life….since Adam and Eve had already chosen to follow satan.
So, He “set a day in which He will judge the earth.” He has set a time for dealing with satan and all who choose to follow the demon rather than “choose life” for themselves. “He is patient because He does not wish any to be destroyed, but wants all to attain to repentance.”
When that day arrives, He will execute satan and clean the earth of all evil.
Just as a man will tell his renters who are destroying his property that they have until..(a date)..to change course of he will evict them…God has set a “day” and He will wait until that day; but when it arrives, He “will not delay.”
I met a young man some years ago. We had conversations about everything, including God, religion, etc. He told me right away that he was a Pagan and we talked about that at length. He was one of the very nicest, sweetest guys I have ever had the pleasure to speak with.
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
Just hilarious once again…..thankyou…. oh delusional one.
If it was not 2021 and 1021 you could be forgiven for believing the utter nonsense that you do…but it’s not. You should try a trip to Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History. You might learn something if you could open your mind just a tiny tiny bit.
john smith says
P.I.C.
It’s not the first time that you have attacked Somehistory,and your rude comments are completely uncalled for. Somehistory is a scholar in Biblical scripture and knows exactly what she is talking about.
Your sniggering comment, “thankyou… oh delusional one,” would better read, thank you….oh enlightened one.
somehistory says
Thank you, john smith, for the very nice defense. Much appreciated.
Valhella says
Thank you somehistory, that is the best explanation of good and evil I have ever read – and shall re-read.
somehistory says
Thank you very much, Valhella, and you are very welcome. I’m happy to know of your appreciation.
gravenimage says
Politicallyincorrectistruth, do you actually have a problem with these Muslim thugs trying to buy this little girl? Not so you say–your only anger seems to be toward someone who actually opposes this horror. Very disturbing. And as John Smith notes, this is hardly the first time you have gone after staunch Anti-Jihadist Somehistory. Very disturbing.
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
Gravenimage…you wrote, “do you actually have a problem with these Muslim thugs trying to buy this little girl? Not so you say–your only anger seems to be toward someone who actually opposes this horror. Very disturbing. And as John Smith notes, this is hardly the first time you have gone after staunch Anti-Jihadist Somehistory. Very disturbing.”
I’ll tell you what’s disturbing, is that you have managed to read something into my comment, that is 100% not there. You wrote “not so you say”…tell me exactly where I wrote that i don’t have a problem with what they did. You can’t, because i didn’t .
Then you wrote “-your only anger seems to be……..”. There is no anger at all in my comment…in fact i even start my comment with “that’s hilarious….thankyou…oh delusional one.You would have to do some serious mind bending to say that’s “anger”.
The problem i have with (somehistory) comment is really two things;
The first…He takes away all individual responsibility for this muslims actions by blaming it on a fictional character called the Devil. The individual must be held responsible for their actions….unless you think the entire legal system has got it wrong.
The second…Just about every time he (somehistory) comments goes on a raving lunatic rant about devils, satans, lakes of fire and how his “magic sky daddy” is going to get them very soon…and by get them, he means kill billions of people who don’t submit to his “magic sky daddy”. Go ahead and ask him…ask him who is going to die.( all buddhists, Jews, etc, etc, etc) Like i wrote before, he could be forgiven if it was 1021, but it’s not and he has serious mental issues.
Imagine a serial pedophile murderer sitting on death row…all he has to do to get to (mythical) heaven is say a few magic words to a priest and Ta-Da!!! he’s allowed to go. What a load of nonsense religion is. All religions are man-made and do not stand up to even simple analysis. Evolution is fact and if more of you went to museum’s like the Smithsonian museum of natural history instead of church, where one person tells you what to think (and don’t ask questions), the human race would be far better off. Countries with less religion have much less violence and problems in society. Religion is what divides people.
As for my thoughts on islam and the scumbag who tried to buy a schoolgirl….he is responsible for actions (not some mythical being) and i hope he is removed from society. I have many times called islam A POX ON HUMANITY and i mean it.
somehistory says
oh, political one,
I have never said that the **individual scum** is not responsible for his actions. Every person…no matter who…has individual responsibility and will …must …face the consequences of his actions.
However, it seems that you can’t understand the concept of a **leader** who seduces, induces, tempts, others to follow his lead into whatever action he wants them to take.
See if you can grasp this: hitler had henchmen who followed his lead.
capone…lead a gang into crime
manson….lead a gang into murder
Ever heard the expression, “he got in with a bad crowd”?
As soon as people such as you get rid of God, Who sets the Standard of *good and bad,* and begin to decide for themselves what is the standard, then there is no one to hold people accountable.
Furthermore, as I have stated before….but you choose to ignore…I have never said anything about **who** will be gotten rid of except that it will be ****evil***** people. Since you mention all of those groups of people based on religion, you exhibit your own bias against those people…they are the **evil** ones.
If your idea is that I’m a fool for believing that there is a God Who can and will *take out the trash,* I have the same idea about you not believing and ***ranting*** on about what I write here.
If you don’t like what I say, and don’t believe a word of it, don’t read it. If you have any self-control, you should be able to just pass on by. You read because you like to needle. You say that my every comment is the same, but they are not, proven by the fact that you only comment on those in which I say that these mozlum slugs are following satan and will pay a heavy price.
All of my other comments, you ignore.
So, rant on, oh political one. I’m not the One you need to worry about.
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
You can’t be serious!!
“As soon as people such as you get rid of God, Who sets the Standard of *good and bad,* and begin to decide for themselves what is the standard, then there is no one to hold people accountable.”
Lets take a little look at your God’s (magic sky daddy) standards shall we? Decides to wipe out the entire human race and all flora and fauna by flooding the entire planet….all because a few people did some naughty things…that he made them do.
WHAT A MASS MURDERING, PETTY, VINDICTIVE, FUCKING PSYCHOPATH!
Thankfully it did not happen, the geologic record proves it.
And what “god” would allow 15,000 children under 5 to die every day from treatable conditions that they cannot get.
Your god is a fucking monster that should be tried for crimes against humanity….if he were real.
Here is some light reading for you;
It is often said that a person experiencing the first stages of serious schizophrenia is more likely to go to see a priest than a psychiatrist1. This is because the delusions suffered by people with schizophrenia often have a religious content. Sufferers may believe that they are a saint, a prophet or God himself, (which is more common in men), or (in women) that they are a saint or are pregnant with the Messiah.
Sometimes the person may believe that they are being punished for some unforgivable sin that they have committed earlier in their life or that they are damned to everlasting hell.2 This can lead to feelings of intense despondency. In other cases the sufferer may believe that others around them are devils or witches and may attack them or that they themselves are possessed by devils.
There is an amusing story from the 1980s of two patients meeting for the first time on a psychiatric ward who, after telling each other their story immediately fell into an altercation with one patient accusing the other of being an imposter: “how can you be Jesus Christ?” he said, I am Christ.2.
How common are religious delusions in schizophrenia?
Various studies have found that the prevalence of religious delusions in schizophrenia is very high. Torrey in the US, for instance, has suggested that around half of sufferers there experience religious delusions.
gravenimage says
Politicallyincorrectistruth wrote:
Gravenimage…you wrote, “do you actually have a problem with these Muslim thugs trying to buy this little girl? Not so you say–your only anger seems to be toward someone who actually opposes this horror. Very disturbing. And as John Smith notes, this is hardly the first time you have gone after staunch Anti-Jihadist Somehistory. Very disturbing.”
I’ll tell you what’s disturbing, is that you have managed to read something into my comment, that is 100% not there. You wrote “not so you say”…tell me exactly where I wrote that i don’t have a problem with what they did. You can’t, because i didn’t .
………………………..
Politicallyincorrectistruth, you do not seem to understand what “not so you say” means. I indicated that in your post of Dec 5, 2021 at 5:58 am that you say nothing against the Muslim actions in the story above. If I somehow missed something, please draw my attention to it. But of course there is nothing there.
More:
Then you wrote “-your only anger seems to be……..”. There is no anger at all in my comment…in fact i even start my comment with “that’s hilarious….thankyou…oh delusional one.You would have to do some serious mind bending to say that’s “anger”.
………………………..
Perhaps I should have said “your only concern” is Somehistory’s condemning this Muslim savagery in a manner you find inappropriate.
More:
The problem i have with (somehistory) comment is really two things;
The first…He takes away all individual responsibility for this muslims actions by blaming it on a fictional character called the Devil. The individual must be held responsible for their actions….unless you think the entire legal system has got it wrong…
………………………..
Your idea that Christians do not believe in free will is mistaken, as well as the idea that Christians don’t believe in the rule of law. Ypur idea that Christian societies have never had legal systems is truly strange–just a cursory glance at history should tell you that this idea is mistaken.
Then, your idea that all Christians reject science, including evolution, is also obviously not the case.
Glad to see, though, that you have taken time here to condemn the savagery of Islam, instead of sneering at Anti-Jihadists if they happen to be Christian, as Robert Spencer himself is.
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
Good to see you take the time for a sneering, pompous reply…but ONCE AGAIN you manage to read things into what i wrote, that are 100% not there. I see you make this mistake with other commenters also, where you take what people write in a slightly off way and comment on how they are wrong…. they then reply to you saying how you misunderstood them.
There is no point in me showing you once again how your reply, reads things into my reply, that are just not there….because no doubt, you would read that wrong as well. Let’s see….
It’s good to see that you recognize you error when you wrote “your only anger seems to be……”, and there was no anger in my comment. (even though you recognition was laced with sarcasm)
You wrote “Ypur idea that Christian societies have never had legal systems is truly strange”.
Absolutely nowhere in my comment do i say ..christian societies have never had legal systems.
How on earth do you read that from my comment?? It’s delusional.
Anyway, here is a short extract that may apply to “somehistory”,
It is often said that a person experiencing the first stages of serious schizophrenia is more likely to go to see a priest than a psychiatrist1. This is because the delusions suffered by people with schizophrenia often have a religious content. Sufferers may believe that they are a saint, a prophet or God himself, (which is more common in men), or (in women) that they are a saint or are pregnant with the Messiah.
Sometimes the person may believe that they are being punished for some unforgivable sin that they have committed earlier in their life or that they are damned to everlasting hell.2 This can lead to feelings of intense despondency. In other cases the sufferer may believe that others around them are devils or witches and may attack them or that they themselves are possessed by devils.
There is an amusing story from the 1980s of two patients meeting for the first time on a psychiatric ward who, after telling each other their story immediately fell into an altercation with one patient accusing the other of being an imposter: “how can you be Jesus Christ?” he said, I am Christ.2.
How common are religious delusions in schizophrenia?
Various studies have found that the prevalence of religious delusions in schizophrenia is very high. Torrey in the US, for instance, has suggested that around half of sufferers there experience religious delusions.
somehistory says
The Bible commands all who want to do right and understand God’s commands, to attempt to explain things to those who do not yet understand.
Replying to you is a big waste of my time and your replies are full of filth in many forms. Henceforth, I am going to exercise more self-control and ignore you and your nonsense. I’ll just wait and let the God you deny exists; the One to Whom you refer in a blasphemous way, deal with you as He sees fit.
He knows I tried.
john smith says
Good replies Somehistory and Gravenimage, and I think it’s the correct decision to just ignore someone who’s posts are foul, rude, and disrespectful.
somehistory says
Thank you, John.
Proud Islamophobe says
//Why is it that every time some slime ball does slime ball things people attribute it to “Satan”?//
…because islam is the antithesis of Christianity.
…because sharia law is the antithesis of the Torah.
…because the quran is the antithesis of the Bible.
…because all of mankind is in a fallen sinful state and separated from G-d (Isaiah 59:2; Ecclesiastes 7:20; Isaiah 64:6).
1 + 1 = 2.
.
.
//acts of “evil” are just a glitch in the behaviour patterns of the mind.//
So by that rationale, the antithesis described above in all its intricate detail is just a fluke coincidence. The fact that general everyday life consists of murder, suicide, rape, pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, wife-beating, child abuse, animal abuse, theft, lies, greed, sickness, disease, and people not only accepting what G-d forbids and abhors, but actually embracing it and going out of our way to legalize it is another “glitch.” Within 5 years of legalizing homosexual marriage, we have transgender kids, no-gender kids, homosexual sex and sodomy taught in schools, drag queen story hour in schools and libraries for the very young, homosexual blood transfusions to the public and their children, people advocating for the decriminalization of AIDS transmission, grown men in women’s washrooms and change rooms, boys in girls’ washrooms, boys in girls’ clubs, girls in boys’ clubs, and men in women’s sports and beauty contests, which is “just a glitch” and *coincidentally* all against Scripture. All natural differences and boundaries are gone and everything is backwards:
Jeremiah 15:6a – Amplified Bible
“You have abandoned (rejected) Me,” says the LORD. “You keep going backward.”
.
Another “glitch” and fluke coincidence.
.
Every religion no matter what it is is fine, atheism is fine, satanism is fine, witchcraft is fine, the occult is fine, a godless world is great, take the 10 Commandments down from wherever they stand, don’t mention G-d, don’t mention the Bible, equal rights for everybody, everybody inclusive, everybody equal, no discrimination, everybody’s wonderful – except Christians because Christians will speak about G-d and the Messiah! so Christian street-preaching becoming illegal is yet another “glitch.” Throwing G-d out of everything is yet another “glitch.”
I know who your people are because they’re my people as well. You have elevated the talmud above divinely-inspired Scripture, a book that was written by sinful man, and a book that actually CONTRADICTS Scripture. Is that a “glitch” too? and Satan has nothing to do with that, either.
Shame on you for calling G-d a liar, His prophets liars, and His divinely-inspired Scripture a lie.
somehistory says
Yes, because man has ignored the Right of God to give us Laws and Commandments to obey for our own good, our own welfare and well-being, listening to the arch-enemy of our Creator, the world of mankind is in a sorry, disgusting, demonic state.
GreekEmpress says
Keep the faith, somehistory!
Was listening to a radio sermon last week, the gist of which was “to be bold for Christ”. If we don’t speak up, who will?
somehistory says
thank you, GreekEmpress. And you too!
Jesus said if we didn’t speak about Him, “the rocks would cry out.”
Speaking the Truth keeps our faith strong. Kind of like the body’s muscles…”use it or lose it.”
gravenimage says
Somehistory, I don’t think these Muslim thugs thought what they were doing is wrong–they just know that it is still illegal in Infidel Britain.
somehistory says
g,
That is what I meant. we don’t necessarily use the same “words” to identify something. I thought my point was clear…that they knew it was against the **law** in the U.K>…not “wrong” according to islam, but “wrong” according to the Law.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Somehistory–agreed.
Michael Copeland says
“Child brides of six, consummation at nine,
Sex-play with infants or beasts — all fine.
……
A wife is a chattel to buy, beat, and use,
Obliged to submit, not allowed to refuse.”
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/04/easy-guide-to-sharia-law/
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link. Michael.
James Lincoln says
This movie clip, very strangely humorously, points out the total and absolute absurdity:
“How much for the little girl?” – The Blues Brothers
At 3:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO2c_TZ5Ics
Walter Sieruk says
This is yet another example of Islamic “family values.”
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Walter.
Treereen says
I expect, there will be pathetic “guidance” issued by the police about how not to engage potential child buyers and instead of “help” to shout “fire”, unless in a crowded theatre or shopping centre where the only acceptable call for help would be “cordial assistance”.
There will, of course, not be £1,000,000+ a year to fund a unit tasked with fighting street “child buying in the UK” like there is to police online hurty words.
What will be the next new low? I thought, there couldn’t be another one, and yet…
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Is PCSO [what does that stand for?] Kenneth Blake of South Yorkshire Police a native speaker of English? He certainly shows a peculiar use of tenses:
““The mother has [sic] refused and ran towards the school with her daughter. The mother then heard a screech of car tyres and a black/ blue vehicle has [sic] made off towards Dyche Lane”.
Treereen says
PCSO = Police Community Support Officer. The “Diet Coke” of [British] policing, not quite “police material” enough. THEY call the REAL police to arrest someone.
With the name like Kenneth Blake one can be assured he is a native English speaker albeit without the required minimum English language skills to complete a coherent…something or another.
Check Burry says
You could liken them to the Guardian angels, but with a badge and a worse uniform.
They wonder round and if they spot something iffy they call the real cops, who are to busy wrestling down a very ill guy who mooned a speed camera, Fair & Balanced eh.
Kashyap says
What good does it do by making observations on Muslim barbarism, brutality, if the non-Muslim community fails to make the brute Muslims to be human?
Check Burry says
How exactly would you suggest we do that, rereligionise them, how does that work? They are then under death threat, a real possibility, from their family, the guy next door etc etc etc. Some have driven 200 miles to chop head of another ex mus.
gravenimage says
These thugs need to be deported after serving their sentences.
Infidel says
Good job, UK! Keep letting in more mohammedans into your country
jim says
Islam is the biggest religion whose scriptures seem to promote pederasty, child abuse, bigotry and hate crimes.
such things are found among other religions, but they are not endorsed by their theologians or by the scriptures. They do not have their counterpart in Jesus’s teachings.
gravenimage says
Yes–these horrors are *sacralized* in Islam, and the “Prophet” himself was a child rapist and user of sex slaves.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
“Better for those who would lead a child to sin to place a millstone around their necks and throw themselves into the sea.”
Jesus the Christ
somehistory says
Yes, absolutely. Their punishment is not something which will please them as much as a millstone around their necks and being tossed would.
“It is a fearful thing to fall into the Hands of the Living God.”
Jay says
Deport them. Deport them. Deport them. (Repeat)
OLD GUY says
Don’t ;et them in to start with. American political leaders should pay attention to this, but they won’t islamic money is too tempting. Hell Biden just insured islam would have plenty of money to spread around by shutting down American oil, some can buy it from MUSLIMS.
Major Tom says
What’s a PCSO? A Politically Correct Social Organ?
Lisa Tea says
Keith O said:
“My people do not believe in the entity you call Satan/ the devil. We have understood for thousands of years that acts of “evil” are just a glitch in the behavior patterns of the mind.”
It sure sounds like you believe that every crime is perpetrated by a glitch of the mind and therefore not a person’s fault or responsibility. That would mean that every evil action of mankind is attributable only to madness. Therefore, we should only have insane asylums and not prisons.
It sounds like “your people” are the original woke generation. Oh, well, God is used to man’s foolishness. The Old Testament is full of it.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslims produce ‘large amount of money,’ offer to buy woman’s daughter
……………..
Just horrifying–but this is rife in the Muslim world, and in places where Muslims have infiltrated in large numbers. And why not? It is sacralized in Islam itself. Glad this woman and her little girl escaped–but not all Infidels will be so lucky.