And, this “bill” is unconstitutional. If this isn’t just for an envoy in the state department to “combat” this, in other countries, but they try to apply their envoy job to American citizens, then whomever is arrested, charged, etc. for telling the Truth about islam, it will be fought in Court to show to not allow this Truth to get out, is a denial of the Freedom of Speech. And as a Christian, if one is arrested and charged, then that one can claim the Freedom of Religion.,, also.
gravenimagesays
Are we going to declare war if, say, some rare person in the British, French, or Italian government dares say anything critical about the horrors of Islam?
somehistorysays
With the present idiots in charge, who can say? And the person might just be an ordinary citizen, maybe like Tommy Robinson, or some other truth=teller. The U.S. gov envoy going after such a person would be wrong.
gravenimagesays
I can see this happening–pressure from the US for foreign governments to crack down on anyone telling the truth about Islam. A deeply disturbing but not inconceivabble scenario–all the worse because the West seldom says anything about Islamic countries abusing their citizens, including non-Muslims.
somehistorysays
I too, actually expect such as that to happen.. Things are so very twisted; citizens can’t travel without masks, valid ID’s, shots, and illegals not required to have any of these.
Parents arrested at school board meetings for objecting to what’s being taught, and other things that are truly wrong and against the protections afforded by the Constitution.
So, going after people in other countries who tell what islam is all about…we should expect it.
And, they never do say anything regarding the massacres of Christians in such places as Nigeria, or the things that go on in pakistan…..because mozlums are the perps, not the fake victims they pretend to be.
gravenimagesays
Scary times, Somehistory. All the more reason for us to stand firm.
somehistorysays
Yes, g. As Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. told the Italians, “Resist, resist, resist.”
Jesus said how bad things would get and they are increasingly worse every day.
But, He said as we see these things occur, “Lift up your heads as your deliverance is near.”
Infidelsays
Yes, we will. But in that case, only vaccinated and masked LGBTQIA people should be allowed to serve in that operation, and that too after getting advanced CRT certifications. We wouldn’t want bigots who think ‘my body, my choice’ to be a part of this. We would send such troops there to serve for the next 100 years. They can also share pornographic material like ‘Gender Fluid’ to those muslim rape gangs in Europe to show how down w/ da struggle they are against the islamophobia
My Clarion Call for last 10 years has been Pig Poop on Mecca.
Am I saying anything wrong.
Dereksays
This Is truly bizzare. Let me get this “straight”:
A devout Muslim goes to his mosque to prepare bombs to carry out all that is ordained in Islam and the Qoran, and YOU have problem with that ?? You want to deny him his religious duties ?? How ” terrible.”
As for Ilhan Omar saying that until everyone is free to practice their religion then no one is is absurd–and this means that no Christian or Jew is free to practice their faith anywhere because Muslims do not allow freedom of religion–yet she obviously doesn’t want anyone to note this…
Then, further, the idea that one cannot practice their faith if anyone anywhere is allowed to criticize their faith is grotesque–and something that few save Muslims would ever demand in the first place.
somehistorysays
mozlums don’t think of others as having a religion. They believe that only islam is a religion and deny that other faiths are.
So, looking at it from the foul, evil, wrong and immoral way of mozlums, when everyone is bowing to their satanic fake ‘god’ then all will be *free* to practice their religion.
after all, practicing their religion means that they must prevent others from having a choice, and not bowing to their evil idol. They must be free to kill all who disagree.
As one of their own clerics said, “there is no logic in islam.”
mortimersays
There you go again with your bigotry. Your remarks do great harm to the counterjihad which is a human rights movement. You are obviously a fascist.
somehistorysays
There you go again with your mozlumness. It’s leaking out and you just can’t help it.
The oic members said on video that there is no religion but islam….yours, mort. You know this, but as mozlums do, you deny the Truth.
You know in your mozlum brain that what I wrote is how mozlums think: hat everyone needs to bow to the mozlum ‘god.’ Or be killed for not bowing.
James Lincolnsays
mortimer,
From Merriam-Webster:
“Essential Meaning of bigot
1. a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person
2. a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)”
Fact: Islam is a totalitarian religious/political ideology whose ultimate goal is to impose sharia law throughout the world.
Followers of islam – muslims – range from “muslim in name only” all the way to devout. All support islam in varying degrees.
Based upon this:
I don’t believe that is unfair to dislike muslims.
and
I don’t believe that Western nations should accept members of a certain group -muslims – into their countries.
I would not have those feelings about true, authentic muslim apostates who could actually help in the anti-jihad effort.
I would say the same thing about Nazis.
Does that makes me a bigot?
gravenimagesays
Mortimer, you don’t say what Somehistory has gotten wrong. Her analysis here seems spot on.
Bensays
In 1998, Omar Ahmad (CAIR’s founder) declared in a public speech in California that “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran is the highest authority in America, and Islam is the only accepted religion on earth
Bensays
20+ Jewish Democrats in the House of Representatives voted for Omar’s bill. Sonderkommandos and Judenrats!
Check Burrysays
It doesnt say much for these people in the different houses of the us government who passed this awful item, whether dem or repub.
So what way is there left to stop it?
Infidelsays
None. It would have to be overturned by a GOP congress once they get the majority, but that too has to ensure that every elected Republican is like a MTG or a Boebert, and not like a Lindsay Graham or a Marco Rubio
gravenimagesays
There are Jews *and* Gentiles who are both clueless aout the threat of Islam.
rajasays
Mortimer,
Romans 12: 9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil; cling to what is good.
Am I a bigot for following the above verse? There never was any human rights in OIC nations and what is the point in discussing human rights in the West. Or is it that we (non-Muslim world) is on a slippery phase with regards to the human rights viz a viz Islamic world and no-go zones of the West? Where is the movement?
Boycott Turkeysays
I don’t understand doesn’t this bill go against the US constitution that Free speech is a right ? Hopefully this bill doesn’t pass
somehistorysays
The state department is really an agency that deals with other nations…sending envoys, ambassadors, giving visas etc.
The way the bill reads, it will be applied to orgs and governments outside the U.S. It really shouldn’t affect our Freedom of speech. If a citizen is somehow charged by this envoy of phobia, that person should be able to take it to court and have any charges thrown out.
Dereksays
There is a difference between a bigoted and an honest opinion.
I would say that you are being honest Mortimer
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somehistory says
And, this “bill” is unconstitutional. If this isn’t just for an envoy in the state department to “combat” this, in other countries, but they try to apply their envoy job to American citizens, then whomever is arrested, charged, etc. for telling the Truth about islam, it will be fought in Court to show to not allow this Truth to get out, is a denial of the Freedom of Speech. And as a Christian, if one is arrested and charged, then that one can claim the Freedom of Religion.,, also.
gravenimage says
Are we going to declare war if, say, some rare person in the British, French, or Italian government dares say anything critical about the horrors of Islam?
somehistory says
With the present idiots in charge, who can say? And the person might just be an ordinary citizen, maybe like Tommy Robinson, or some other truth=teller. The U.S. gov envoy going after such a person would be wrong.
gravenimage says
I can see this happening–pressure from the US for foreign governments to crack down on anyone telling the truth about Islam. A deeply disturbing but not inconceivabble scenario–all the worse because the West seldom says anything about Islamic countries abusing their citizens, including non-Muslims.
somehistory says
I too, actually expect such as that to happen.. Things are so very twisted; citizens can’t travel without masks, valid ID’s, shots, and illegals not required to have any of these.
Parents arrested at school board meetings for objecting to what’s being taught, and other things that are truly wrong and against the protections afforded by the Constitution.
So, going after people in other countries who tell what islam is all about…we should expect it.
And, they never do say anything regarding the massacres of Christians in such places as Nigeria, or the things that go on in pakistan…..because mozlums are the perps, not the fake victims they pretend to be.
gravenimage says
Scary times, Somehistory. All the more reason for us to stand firm.
somehistory says
Yes, g. As Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. told the Italians, “Resist, resist, resist.”
Jesus said how bad things would get and they are increasingly worse every day.
But, He said as we see these things occur, “Lift up your heads as your deliverance is near.”
Infidel says
Yes, we will. But in that case, only vaccinated and masked LGBTQIA people should be allowed to serve in that operation, and that too after getting advanced CRT certifications. We wouldn’t want bigots who think ‘my body, my choice’ to be a part of this. We would send such troops there to serve for the next 100 years. They can also share pornographic material like ‘Gender Fluid’ to those muslim rape gangs in Europe to show how down w/ da struggle they are against the islamophobia
Nusrat Rizvi says
My Clarion Call for last 10 years has been Pig Poop on Mecca.
Am I saying anything wrong.
Derek says
This Is truly bizzare. Let me get this “straight”:
A devout Muslim goes to his mosque to prepare bombs to carry out all that is ordained in Islam and the Qoran, and YOU have problem with that ?? You want to deny him his religious duties ?? How ” terrible.”
La hol wilaquuwat !!
gravenimage says
Grimly apt.
Relic says
pre-pandemic 1918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XptZNpCVPM
gravenimage says
Great video! Very disturbing bill.
As for Ilhan Omar saying that until everyone is free to practice their religion then no one is is absurd–and this means that no Christian or Jew is free to practice their faith anywhere because Muslims do not allow freedom of religion–yet she obviously doesn’t want anyone to note this…
Then, further, the idea that one cannot practice their faith if anyone anywhere is allowed to criticize their faith is grotesque–and something that few save Muslims would ever demand in the first place.
somehistory says
mozlums don’t think of others as having a religion. They believe that only islam is a religion and deny that other faiths are.
So, looking at it from the foul, evil, wrong and immoral way of mozlums, when everyone is bowing to their satanic fake ‘god’ then all will be *free* to practice their religion.
after all, practicing their religion means that they must prevent others from having a choice, and not bowing to their evil idol. They must be free to kill all who disagree.
As one of their own clerics said, “there is no logic in islam.”
mortimer says
There you go again with your bigotry. Your remarks do great harm to the counterjihad which is a human rights movement. You are obviously a fascist.
somehistory says
There you go again with your mozlumness. It’s leaking out and you just can’t help it.
The oic members said on video that there is no religion but islam….yours, mort. You know this, but as mozlums do, you deny the Truth.
You know in your mozlum brain that what I wrote is how mozlums think: hat everyone needs to bow to the mozlum ‘god.’ Or be killed for not bowing.
James Lincoln says
mortimer,
From Merriam-Webster:
“Essential Meaning of bigot
1. a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person
2. a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)”
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
Fact: Islam is a totalitarian religious/political ideology whose ultimate goal is to impose sharia law throughout the world.
Followers of islam – muslims – range from “muslim in name only” all the way to devout. All support islam in varying degrees.
Based upon this:
I don’t believe that is unfair to dislike muslims.
and
I don’t believe that Western nations should accept members of a certain group -muslims – into their countries.
I would not have those feelings about true, authentic muslim apostates who could actually help in the anti-jihad effort.
I would say the same thing about Nazis.
Does that makes me a bigot?
gravenimage says
Mortimer, you don’t say what Somehistory has gotten wrong. Her analysis here seems spot on.
Ben says
In 1998, Omar Ahmad (CAIR’s founder) declared in a public speech in California that “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran is the highest authority in America, and Islam is the only accepted religion on earth
Ben says
20+ Jewish Democrats in the House of Representatives voted for Omar’s bill. Sonderkommandos and Judenrats!
Check Burry says
It doesnt say much for these people in the different houses of the us government who passed this awful item, whether dem or repub.
So what way is there left to stop it?
Infidel says
None. It would have to be overturned by a GOP congress once they get the majority, but that too has to ensure that every elected Republican is like a MTG or a Boebert, and not like a Lindsay Graham or a Marco Rubio
gravenimage says
There are Jews *and* Gentiles who are both clueless aout the threat of Islam.
raja says
Mortimer,
Romans 12: 9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil; cling to what is good.
Am I a bigot for following the above verse? There never was any human rights in OIC nations and what is the point in discussing human rights in the West. Or is it that we (non-Muslim world) is on a slippery phase with regards to the human rights viz a viz Islamic world and no-go zones of the West? Where is the movement?
Boycott Turkey says
I don’t understand doesn’t this bill go against the US constitution that Free speech is a right ? Hopefully this bill doesn’t pass
somehistory says
The state department is really an agency that deals with other nations…sending envoys, ambassadors, giving visas etc.
The way the bill reads, it will be applied to orgs and governments outside the U.S. It really shouldn’t affect our Freedom of speech. If a citizen is somehow charged by this envoy of phobia, that person should be able to take it to court and have any charges thrown out.
Derek says
There is a difference between a bigoted and an honest opinion.
I would say that you are being honest Mortimer