And Spencer confirms in the first minutes in the above video that YES, Hashmi has definitely ,personally, revealed that he is DANIOS of Loonwatch!
Luis Dizon,the moderator in that debate,also appears in the above video,and in the chat in it ,has written:”Dr. Hashmi was supposed to be here but dropped out for personal reasons”
Doomersays
Also I don’t know if what Danios said about the Just War Theory of Christianity not being one of CONQUEST as a MYTH is true. I doubt it.
I certainly condemn Augustine for advocating legal discrimination of Jews and heretics, since it goes against the Law=Love your neighbor like yourself. But he is THE creator of the Just War Theory
according to Christianity.
From this Catholic source it says:
“Writing in 418 A.D., St. Augustine said:
“Peace should be the object of your desire; WAR should be waged
ONLY as a NECESSITY…in order that peace may be obtained.
Therefore, even in waging a war, cherish the spirit of a peacemaker,
that, by conquering those whom you attack, you may lead them back to the advantages of peace…As violence is used toward him who rebels and resists,
so MERCY is DUE to the
vanquished or captive.”
Since that time, the Church has used his teachings as a basis for determining when just force is necessary to protect the innocent.”
The great Roman orator, statesman, and philosopher, CICERO is a father of the theory of “just war;”
but Cicero’s version differs substantially from Augustine, Aquinas, and Hugo Grotius.
Cicero was a STOIC,who believed all men are equal because specifically all men are born with a “divine spark” ( which is similar to the Christian claim
all are equal because all are born in the Image of God)
Stoicism was created by ZENO,a Phoenician, who undeniably knew that his people’s religion had as its god BAAL,
who demanded Temple Prostitution and Child Sacrifice ( throwing them ALIVE into the FIRE). Zeno said there is no life after death, and I think he simply decided to add the “divine spark”
doctrine as a way to make all men born equal, and serve as way to PREVENT child sacrifice. Do not kill children since they have the “divine spark”. And also maybe he had heard of the Jewish doctrine
that all are born in the Image of God. Hebrew and Phoenician-Cananite are two very similar languages,like Russian and Ukrainian.
Sultanasays
Mr Spencer,
I am an ex-Muslim. One of the reasons i left Islam is over something that even you overlooked.
In the debate with Danios, you kept asking him why Islam didn’t outlaw slavery whilst Christians like Wilberforce did.
There is an even stronger argument you could have used.
Slavery was outlawed in Islam, but only that of Muslims. Muslims did not enslave Muslims, Sharia forbids it.
So your argument should have been why havn’t Muslims outlawed slavery of non Muslims.
They didn’t. Wilberforce was a better person. Equality doesn’t exist in Islam, because Muslims outlawed the enslavement of Muslims, which means they could easily have done what Wilberforce did, but they chose not to.
That is one of the reasons I left Islam, it is inferior to Judaism and Christianity.
There is one other way Islamis also inferior. Neither Judaism or Christianity (Christianity actually does’t allow divorce but that is another story) but Islam allows men to say 3 Talaqs without a judge. You cannot divorce in Judaism without a court. A man can’t just divorce his wife.
Islam is the sole religion which gives women such an inferior status that men can say 3 divorces without a judge. In secular Muslim countries secular law protects women, but there is nothing in Islam that says men can only divorce in a court.
When I realised how inferior Islam was, I left.
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Doomer says
You can also see more here:
“Post-Debate Review with Robert Spencer”
https://youtu.be/ol6CilMBjjk
And Spencer confirms in the first minutes in the above video that YES, Hashmi has definitely ,personally, revealed that he is DANIOS of Loonwatch!
Luis Dizon,the moderator in that debate,also appears in the above video,and in the chat in it ,has written:”Dr. Hashmi was supposed to be here but dropped out for personal reasons”
Doomer says
Also I don’t know if what Danios said about the Just War Theory of Christianity not being one of CONQUEST as a MYTH is true. I doubt it.
I certainly condemn Augustine for advocating legal discrimination of Jews and heretics, since it goes against the Law=Love your neighbor like yourself. But he is THE creator of the Just War Theory
according to Christianity.
From this Catholic source it says:
“Writing in 418 A.D., St. Augustine said:
“Peace should be the object of your desire; WAR should be waged
ONLY as a NECESSITY…in order that peace may be obtained.
Therefore, even in waging a war, cherish the spirit of a peacemaker,
that, by conquering those whom you attack, you may lead them back to the advantages of peace…As violence is used toward him who rebels and resists,
so MERCY is DUE to the
vanquished or captive.”
Since that time, the Church has used his teachings as a basis for determining when just force is necessary to protect the innocent.”
https://www.catholicleague.org/just-war-doctrine/#:~:text=Under%20the%20Just%20War%20doctrine%2C%20a%20set%20of,religious%20and%20ethnic%20minorities%2C%20women%2C%20and%20other%20populations.
The great Roman orator, statesman, and philosopher, CICERO is a father of the theory of “just war;”
but Cicero’s version differs substantially from Augustine, Aquinas, and Hugo Grotius.
Cicero was a STOIC,who believed all men are equal because specifically all men are born with a “divine spark” ( which is similar to the Christian claim
all are equal because all are born in the Image of God)
Stoicism was created by ZENO,a Phoenician, who undeniably knew that his people’s religion had as its god BAAL,
who demanded Temple Prostitution and Child Sacrifice ( throwing them ALIVE into the FIRE). Zeno said there is no life after death, and I think he simply decided to add the “divine spark”
doctrine as a way to make all men born equal, and serve as way to PREVENT child sacrifice. Do not kill children since they have the “divine spark”. And also maybe he had heard of the Jewish doctrine
that all are born in the Image of God. Hebrew and Phoenician-Cananite are two very similar languages,like Russian and Ukrainian.
Sultana says
Mr Spencer,
I am an ex-Muslim. One of the reasons i left Islam is over something that even you overlooked.
In the debate with Danios, you kept asking him why Islam didn’t outlaw slavery whilst Christians like Wilberforce did.
There is an even stronger argument you could have used.
Slavery was outlawed in Islam, but only that of Muslims. Muslims did not enslave Muslims, Sharia forbids it.
So your argument should have been why havn’t Muslims outlawed slavery of non Muslims.
They didn’t. Wilberforce was a better person. Equality doesn’t exist in Islam, because Muslims outlawed the enslavement of Muslims, which means they could easily have done what Wilberforce did, but they chose not to.
That is one of the reasons I left Islam, it is inferior to Judaism and Christianity.
There is one other way Islamis also inferior. Neither Judaism or Christianity (Christianity actually does’t allow divorce but that is another story) but Islam allows men to say 3 Talaqs without a judge. You cannot divorce in Judaism without a court. A man can’t just divorce his wife.
Islam is the sole religion which gives women such an inferior status that men can say 3 divorces without a judge. In secular Muslim countries secular law protects women, but there is nothing in Islam that says men can only divorce in a court.
When I realised how inferior Islam was, I left.