The Qur’an teaches that men are superior to women and should beat those from whom they “fear disobedience”: “Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” — Qur’an 4:34
Muhammad’s child bride, Aisha, says in a hadith that Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: ‘Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?’” — Sahih Muslim 2127
Another hadith states: “Rifa`a divorced his wife whereupon `AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. `Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah’s Messenger came, Aisha said, ‘I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!’” — Sahih Bukhari 7.77.5825
“Islamic charity advises on when and how to beat women,” National Secular Society, January 10, 2022 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
The National Secular Society has reported an Islamic charity whose website condones violence against women to the regulator.
The NSS reported Utrujj Foundation to the Charity Commission after finding an article on its website that says that a man “has the permission to ‘strike'” his wife as part of “a process to salvage a marriage”.
The article, entitled “Can a man beat his wife in Islam?”, is written by Haytham Tamim, the “founder and main teacher” of Utrujj and one of the charity’s trustees. It says it is guidance for “the person in charge of the relationship [on] how to resolve issues when the relationship is going wrong”.
In a section entitled “When is it permissible”, the article says the “right to beat” wives is “part of a process” if a wife is “undermining her husband’s authority”.
In another section entitled “What constitutes a strike”, the article says daraba (striking) is connected to nushuz (arrogance). It says an example of nushuz is when “the wife is troublesome, causing issues” and the husband suspects she is “talking to someone behind his back or receiving someone in his home without his permission”.
It says the strike “must not leave a mark” and “must not be on the face”.
Elsewhere, it implies hitting one’s wife is “an act of loyalty and love”….
tim gallagher says
How and when women should be beaten. Now let’s see. Try never. islam is a load of primitive crap suitable only for knuckle draggers. It has to go. This sort of crap should not exist in our modern world. Why so many people defend islam and carry on with all this garbage about Islamophobia is beyond my comprehension. islam is full of barbaric, primitive garbage which no decent person should defend. Islam should be given no respectability whatsoever and yet, somehow, it is given respect by so many gullible people.
BTeboe says
+100
Wellington says
Seconded.
tim gallagher says
Thanks, BTeboe and Wellington. So much of Islam is backward and barbaric and definitely doesn’t belong in our supposedly enlightened times.
Rufolino says
It’s simply a fact that so-called “enlightened ” people do NOT WANT to think of Islam as barbaric, which it is. “Niceness” will be the death of the West. This was the same challenge faced by Churchill in the 1930’s, when the British public did not want to believe Hitler intended to conquer, “first Europe ! Then the world !”
tim gallagher says
I agree, Rufolino. I believe, exactly as you have put things there, that this endless “niceness” towards an evil ideology such as islam is a huge danger to our western way of life. You have to call out evil, call it what it is, rather than all this pussy footing around about islam’s nature that so many people in our societies go in for. I agree about Churchill, who tried to wake people in the UK to the dangers that Hitler and the Nazis represented. I remember that part of the reason why people in the UK didn’t want to face up to the reality of the Nazis was (very understandably) was because WWI had been so terrible and so many British lives had been lost in that war, and also they’d just suffered through the Depression as well. So there was an exhaustion in the society and I suppose people didn’t want to have to face another huge war, so they denied reality for a long time.
Keith O says
I agree with the concept that women should never be beaten by a male, with only two exceptions.
1. As a matter of self defence or the defence of others from a female aggressor, and lets face it, they are out there! and
2. Between consenting adults in the bedroom/ dungeon, if that’s what your into.
Other than that, personally, if I see any male hit any woman and I’m physically able, he’s going to the A&E at the local hospital.
Been there, done that and have no trouble sleeping.
Michael Copeland says
Skateboarder Ignacio Echeverria saw a woman being STABBED by a muslim mujahid in London. He went to her assistance armed with his skateboard.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/12/courage-what-would-we-do/
tim gallagher says
Good article, Michael. you do excellent work. I hope I never do come across a really dangerous situation, being a scrawny guy, but I do hope that if I ever do come across such a situation then I hope, as I guess we all do, that I do have to courage to jump right on in. It is very hard to know how you would react because it would be such an instantaneous, split second decision to man up and jump in and put yourself in harm’s way.
tim gallagher says
I agree with what you say, Keith O. A person definitely has to fight back in self defence. On the TV news, in recent years, there have been some appallingly violent fist fights that have been shown of school girls tearing into one another out here in Australia and put up on social media. There is an alarming level of violence around these days. Also, as you say, some people’s bedroom antics, well it’s their own business.
PRCS says
Tim,
Two Sydney Muslim women describe hitting wives as “a beautiful blessing”.
Hizb ut-Tahrir video condoning family violence slammed as ‘abhorrent’ by MPs and advocacy groups
https://www.9news.com.au/national/its-never-okay-to-hit-your-wife-ben-fordham-calls-out-islamic-group/5a371e2e-07a0-44ad-8ec5-14d8c82e2088#7pLDZAKTDZma8trr.99
See @ 2:33
tim gallagher says
PRCS, I can very vaguely remember when these women said that rubbish. Of course, I suppose that islam has twisted these women into masochistic fools. Islam deforms the mentalities of all its followers. I also thought that these women could not say anything other than this utter garbage that being hit by their husbands is a “beautiful blessing” (talk about sick) because they’d probably face being killed in an honour killing if they stepped out of line. In Australia, Hizb ut-Tahrir seem to get publicity every year when they have a conference and make atrocious hardline islamic statements and then people say, why the hell aren’t they banned here, because they are banned in many countries. They probably should be banned. I suspect the authorities here say, let them hold their conferences and we’ll keep a very close eye on the scum that attend. By the way, I know you used to watch a bit of Alan Jones on Sky News. Ben Fordham, mentioned in this report, is the guy who replaced Alan Jones when he gave up morning radio, on doctors’ orders, on 2GB radio station. Alan Jones was almost 80 years old then and he then went to the Sky News show. Ben Fordham is around 40 years old. I listen to Fordham these days. He is a pleasant guy but, I think, a bit wishy washy and soft left in his views..
PRCS says
This was covered at JW on APR 13, 2017
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/04/australia-islamic-group-produces-video-calling-wife-beating-a-beautiful-blessing
I note that you posted there, and Ben Fordham was cited in the article.
Lisel Sipes says
Sharpen your kitchen knife. Wait until your pig of a husband is sleeping. Cut off his penis.
Michael Copeland says
A wife is a chattel to buy, beat, and use,
Obliged to submit, not allowed to refuse.
From Easy guide To Sharia Law
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/04/easy-guide-to-sharia-law/
Carol the 1st says
Excellent poem on Sharia by Michael C. It needs to be widely displayed as a cue/clue card.
The reality of Islam hit a limping, beer-loving individual I know right in the face recently. A muslim taxi driver arrived and was most disapproving of his 24-pack and refused to handle the case at all. “I was lucky to even get a ride home!!” the shocked infidel whined piteously.
Such as he
Would need to be
Slapped in the face
With that poem, you see.
Wellington says
I expect this filthy, misogynistic rot to exist in Islamic countries, but the fact that this Islamic barbarism exists in ANY Western nation is directly due to fools like Tony Blair, Justin Trudeau, Angela Merkel and Joe Biden continuing to make excuses for the worst religion of all time.
The only Muslims that should exist in Western countries should be a limited amount of diplomatic personnel and the complete losers who as adults convert to Islam (and their truly unfortunate children). In either case, both should be watched closely and with much skepticism accompanied by contempt for what they believe in.
Islam is replete with error and hideousness. The West for some 1350 years knew this and acted accordingly. But the past half century or so in Western history has seen, from within, a mindless contempt for what the West achieved accompanied by an invitation to the Islamic barbarian to settle within the West by the millions. Beyond idiotic. Actually, downright suicidal. And no group will pay a higher price for this than women in the West.
I loathe Islam. I feel fully vindicated in doing so. Indeed, not to despise Islam is evidence of some kind of deficiency, only the particular nature of the deficiency functioning as a variable and in degree.
PRCS says
“in ANY Western nation”
See my response to Tim, above.
Violet C says
I second that
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
The Qur’an teaches that men are superior to women and should beat those from whom they “fear disobedience”: “Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” — Qur’an 4:34
No, the Quran does *not* teach that men are superior to women. Is says that “one” (one *what*, one sex?) is superior to the other, but coyly refuses to say which is which. Good women guard their unseen parts (their internal organs), but no more so than bad men do. And “those from whom you [who is “you”, a man, or a woman?] fear disobedience” could be of either sex.
CogitoErgoSum says
Mark, I don’t know how you can interpret “one” in this verse any way except to mean that men are superior over women. “One” means that one sex is superior over the other and the “one” that is superior is the male sex – the female sex ranks below the male sex. This is the decree of Allah and if women rebel against obeying the male who is in charge over them, they are also rebelling against Allah. This is the meaning I take away from the verse.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Hi, CES. If the author [Author?] of the Quran wanted to say that men are superior to women, he [He? she? She?] could easily have said so. Instead, we get a proto-feminist sex-equality wording. If this interpretation is wrong, there ought to be quotable male-superior passages in the Quran.
CogitoErgoSum says
I admit that I don’t know ancient Arabic but I think part of it is also because the author (Muhammad?) was interested in making poetry and flowery language superior to straight talk.
Carol the 1st says
Mark, MEN are the “authority” because HE IS SUPERIOR TO THE OTHER (no equivocation here) , AND because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are “obedient” (to this superior authority). No lack of clarity here.
Carol the 1st says
Additionally, Mark, women “guard their unseen parts as Allah has guarded them” refers to a tucked-away genitalia as opposed to a more external one.
And, As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” well reality would suggest that it works better for women if they keep the males IN the bed.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Hi Carol. Where does your pronoun HE come from; some passage of the Quran? By using the plural THEY (at least in the English translation), Quran 4:34 (deliberately?) obscures the male/female distinction. It also obscures whom good women are obedient to.
It is presumptuous to assume that “unseen parts” refers only to tucked-away genitalia, and not bigger unseen organs like livers and esophagi. It looks like the author of Quran 4:34 was anticipating a Star Trek era in which dominance is not so sex-determined.
Carol the 1st says
Mark, It’s common-sense logic and sentence following sentence (context – usually a full paragraph) that allows one to assess a particular organized thinking pattern or proposition. Is English not your first language? I believe I’ve forgotten or have missed your likely bio.
For example your first sentence: “The Qur’an teaches that men are superior to women and should beat those from whom THEY “fear disobedience”. Would a logical person (having read the full paragraph) be asking themselves “Hmmm, there’s no gender given in this sentence for “THEY”, so perhaps the sentence as it stands alone COULD be referring to males or females from whom our women “fear disobedience” and thus this sentence only indirectly compliments men’s strength and bravery and suggests we allow ourselves to be heroically summoned to calm the women’s fears? ..why SURELY no one literal-minded could take this sentence to mean that our Quran is saying that muslimas are inferior to muslims!!!” Allah forbid such a politically incorrect thought way back in the seventh century!
Enough responding to nonsense. Has anyone watched Apostate Prophet’s video about the deliberate flaws and omissions by the “Arabic scholar” who translated “RELIANCE OF THE TRAVELLER”? AP just gets better and better and knows Arabic too.
gravenimage says
UK: Islamic charity advises on when and how women should be beaten
…………..
And this is an Islaic *charity*.
This savagery is all canonical Islam. Note that a Muslim can beat his wife if he so much as *fears* disobedience.
Michael Copeland says
Furthermore, it is not a case of the man’s having a reasonable fear, one that can be judged by others. It is entirely subjective, his alone. It can be entirely unreasonable, just personal animosity or viciousness.
Walter Sieruk says
This may serve and taken as an example of “Islamic family values.”
abu taleb says
“Umar reported the prophet as saying: “A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife”. (Hadith Of The Sunan Of Abu Dawud, Chapter 709 – On Beating Women, #2142)
No need for advise from Islamic sholars on how to beat their women, because nobody will ask why the women are beaten. Just beat them as you like.
Isn’t Islam is a beautiful religion (for women beaters)?
Michael Copeland says
“Beating is my Quranic right!”
Lawyer on Egypt television (MEMRI)
OLD GUY says
Makes one wonder why any women raised in a western country would convert to Islam. There is nothing in Islam but pain and violence for females.
Lisa Tea says
I find it interesting that the admonition not to strike a woman on the face is something that many wife-beaters seem to know instinctively. And the fact that the article states this so plainly shows that they don’t want others to know the abuse is going on. The fact that they don’t want others to know, is usually an acknowledgement that the abuse is wrong, and they’d be embarrassed to have other people find out.
People are usually only embarrassed by being exposed for doing something stupid, clumsy, immoral, or something they find shameful. Since beating your wife is neither stupid nor clumsy in their culture, it must be the other two I mentioned. So, in their heart of hearts, I think they know it is shameful. I rest my case.