How did Deghayes come to misunderstand the religion that every last Western non-Muslim leader is complacently sure is completely peaceful? Why do all the Muslims who misunderstand Islam all misunderstand it in the same way?
“Brighton mosque leader, 53, made stabbing hand gesture and said ‘Jihad is compulsory’ to his congregation of adults and children, terror trial hears,” by Mark Duell, MailOnline, January 11, 2022:
A mosque leader made a stabbing motion with his hands as he told his congregation that ‘Jihad was compulsory’, a court heard today.
Abubaker Deghayes, 53, was captured on CCTV delivering a speech to his Brighton Mosque congregation that encouraged Islamic extremist violence on November 1, 2020, jurors were told.
Ben Lloyd, prosecuting, told the Old Bailey today: ‘Evening prayers had just finished at the Brighton Mosque. There were about 50 or so people present, including children and young adults.
‘At the end of the prayers the defendant stood up at the front of the congregation and gave a speech. In that speech the defendant was quite clear.
‘He said Jihad was compulsory, an obligation. He said Jihad by fighting by sword was compulsory until the day of resurrection.
‘The prosecution case is clear and straightforward. By standing up at the front of a busy mosque, and by quite deliberately saying Jihad by fighting by sword, the defendant was encouraging terrorism.
‘Encouraging violence in the name of Islam. And if the defendant’s words were not clear enough, he also made a stabbing gesture with his hands.’
Jurors heard the passionate tones of Deghayes’ speech as the mosque’s CCTV footage was played. ‘There is no god but Allah,’ Deghayes said.
‘Allah is more powerful than you. You, idiots. You non-believers, idiots. Allah is more powerful than you. The non-believer…is an idiot; he’s stupid.
‘Jihad is compulsory, upon you, you, you and you until the Day of Resurrection, whatever the British Government thinks, whatever Prevent thinks, whatever Israel thinks.
‘Send to the sea. They can go and drink from the sea…Allah curse their fathers, OK?
Deghayes, originally from Libya, continued: ‘Jihad, Jihad, Jihad! Jihad is compulsory. Jihad by fighting by sword that means this Jihad is compulsory upon you.’
Mr Lloyd explained that ‘Jihad’ can mean many things, but suggested it, in this case, meant ‘a violent struggle in support of Islam’….
John says
What he said is true. So why the hell are you letting people who follow the ‘cult de Mo’ into your country?
abu taleb says
Because the liberals are evil, evil people will join with other evil people to fight the good people.
Graham Bryant says
What do muslims think?-they believe that their god allah of the quran is the true God – they are completely blind to this truth that the great God of the Bible is indeed the true and living creator of us all. One fact about the quran is this that there has been evil additions made to this book around 1979 through ayatollah khomeini of iran(about the time the Shah of lran was ousted from Iran). lt is not the same book it has changed. According to the original quran muhammad married a 16 year old not a 6 year old child!! And to point out another TRUTH the great creator would never allow any marriage to a 6 year old child neither would he allow the killing of the (infidel) innocent nor the rape of (infidel) women and children sanctioned by their quran writings. ONE OTHER TRUTH STANDS OUT- NEVER AT ANY TIME DID GOD EVER APPEAR TO ANY MUSLIM PERSON – MUSLIMS SIMPLY FOLLOW THE DICTATES OF THE QURAN WRITING(WRITTEN BY EVIL MEN OF ARAB EXTRACTION) AS IF THEY ARE OF GOD-God forbid!! islam muslims have no idea what is coming for them when God appears to all mankind-HE IS ANGRY WITH ALL ISLAM IN THE EARTH!!
mortimer says
Graham, Muslims say much the same about you. Speakers’ Corner in London has discovered that the best way to talk to Muslims is to mention the 30 different Arabic ‘original’ versions of the Koran and to ask them which of the 30 is the ‘correct’ version that is on a golden tablet in Islamic paradise.
If there is supposed to be only ONE correct version of the Koran, why do they have 30 Arabic versions … and the most popular version of the Koran (The King Farooq version) has only existed since 1924 and it has been periodically edited to ‘improve’ it. How is it ‘original’?
Keith O says
Mortimer & Graham, The simple fact is that a lot of major religions follow “the word of god”. But it was written, translated, lost in translation, re written, ETC by MEN!!
As far as I am aware, the only thing that is supposed to be perfect is the creator. Men make mistakes! So when people take the written word, be it from one of the versions of the Bible, one of the versions of the Koran or one of the versions of the Tora then they are taking in the ideas of humans, who as we all know are deeply flawed.
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, Mortimer, Muslims often react to this debate at Speaker’s Corner by assauoting anyone who dares criticize Islam.
PRCS says
“the great God of the Bible is indeed the true and living creator of us all”
Yo, Graham:
Prove it.
mortimer says
The Brighton mosque leader, Abubaker Deghayes, must have read
“Al- Faridah al-Gha’ibah” (The Neglected Duty of Jihad) by Muhammad “Abd al-Salam Faraj. This book is extremely popular in Egypt among the Muslim Brotherhood.
I presume Mr. Deghayes is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood or some other similar group of jihadis.
Far from his opinions being ‘fringe’ or unfounded, this JIHADISM he preaches is a core teaching of Islam and one of Islam’s ESSENTIAL teachings. (Arabic usul ud-deen = essential of the faith)
‘Essential’ means that the belief and practice of JIHADISM is ‘essential’ for Islamic salvation and that a Muslim who omits jihad will end up in Islamic hell for eternity.
‘Essential’ means that JIHADISM is indeed ‘compulsory’ for all Muslims, both to believe in it and to practice it.
If Muslims do not conduct jihad personally, they are required to pay substantially to allow jihadists to do it their place.
tim gallagher says
Well, that scumbag certainly is a wonderfully articulate speaker. Churchill and Lincoln and others would be so jealous of his wondrous rhetorical powers. I hope the dumb piece of shit gets a very long jail sentence which is what the maggot deserves. I suspect it won’t happen. I see the moronic turd has that Muslim status symbol on his forehead from pounding his brainless skull into the floor of the mosque. Why do our countries keep letting these scum of the earth into our societies? Will we ever wake the hell up and ban Islam and its followers whose values are totally incompatible with our civilised values?
Keith O says
Love it, you have a way with words Tim. Or is it simply the laconic Aussie sense of humour?
tim gallagher says
Thanks, Keith O. I think some of these disgusting creatures anger me enough to get me fired up. And so much of what islam contains deserves to be ridiculed and ripped to pieces. In my normal everyday life I don’t get around being abusive but the Muslims in some of these reports here at Jihad Watch do annoy me greatly so I have to get stuck into them. I think it is what they deserve..
Michael Copeland says
Ben Lloyd, prosecuting, explained that ‘Jihad’ can mean many things, but suggested it, in this case, meant ‘a violent struggle in support of Islam’….
Mr. Lloyd is right, and his definition does not have to be a “suggestion”.
The Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller”, defines Jihad:
“Jihad means to war against non-Muslims” (o9.0)
“Jihad is a communal obligation” (o9.1)
UK lawyers are not acquainted with Islamic law.
“Reliance of the Traveller” would be very informative for them.
gravenimage says
+1
PRCS says
“Abubaker Deghayes, 53, was captured on CCTV delivering a speech to his Brighton Mosque congregation that encouraged Islamic extremist violence on November 1, 2020, jurors were told.”
No, it encourages Muslims to comply with the violence Qur’an, hadith, and other Islamic texts expect of them.
Michael Copeland says
“Violence is the heart of Islam”
Ayatollah Yazdi
Michael Copeland says
What do Islamic leaders say?
Here is a compilation of their statements, with minimal editing:
Islam: No Peace Can Be Made
No peace can be made between us and the non-believers,
This what Allah… this what our holy book says.
Grab onto the shovel, grab onto the gun and the sword,
Terror struck into their hearts is an end in itself.
Jihad means killing all kafirs around the world.
Push your sword in their bodies and cut them in pieces.
Jihad! Jihad! Jihad is incumbent upon you.
Yes, we will kill them. Of that we’ll not be ashamed.
Kill them wherever they are unless they convert.
Muslims conquered, invaded, and took over countries.
The goal is to rule the world and all mankind.
Any power that gets in the way we fight and destroy.
Power, fighting, jihad, beheading and bloodshed,
Killing, fighting, blood and striking of necks.
These are great, noble, and blessed steps towards order.
Until the last day of our lives we’ll fight and kill.
All the sources are given in:
https://gatesofvienna.net/2021/09/islam-no-peace-can-be-made/
Linda says
This appears to be Abu Bakr Deghayes, mosque leader at Dyke Road Mosque, Brighton UK, brother of released Guantanamo Bay prisoner Omar Deghayes, and father of Jabhat Al-Nusra foreign fighters in Syria Jaffar (deceased age 17) and Abdullah (deceased age 18) Deghayes, per https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/07/15/religious-obligation-uk-mosque-leader-charged-with-encouraging-terror/ (07/15/21).
gravenimage says
UK: Mosque leader preached ‘Jihad, Jihad, Jihad! Jihad is compulsory. Jihad by fighting by sword.’
How did Deghayes come to misunderstand the religion that every last Western non-Muslim leader is complacently sure is completely peaceful? Why do all the Muslims who misunderstand Islam all misunderstand it in the same way?
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That’s the whole point, isn’t it? If people misunderstand a faith, it is apt to be in many different ways, great and small.
But that *so many* misunderstanders of Islam preach violence can only mean that either the faith is being widely mistaught, or–far more likely–that this is not a misunderstanging at all.
And so it is. What Deghayes is preqching is orthodox Islam, straight from the canonical texts and tenets of Islam itself, and the model of the violent “Prophet” Muhammed.
OLD GUY says
This is the truth, muslims want to kill, rape or enslave all who do not convert to their islamic ideology. So why in the hell do we still open our borders to these people. An enemy who believes he or she is guided by a god is vary dangerous right or wrong. Its what they believe that makes them such a danger to the rest of humanity