Brave new multicultural France has its priorities in order.
“Femicide in Toulon: what we know about the author of the 59 stab wounds,” translated from “Féminicide à Toulon: ce que l’on sait sur l’auteur des 59 coups de couteau,” by Eric Marmottans, Nice-Matin, January 31, 2022 (thanks to “France: Aurélie, who miraculously survived 59 stabbings by Mohamed, who was ‘hurt in his pride as an Algerian,’ must pay the €32,000 outstanding rent of her ex-life partner – His lawyer warns against Islamophobia,” Medforth):
Who is the man who stabbed his ex-girlfriend fifty-nine times in a school parking lot on December 13, 2017, in Toulon? Mohamed Meghraoui was sentenced on appeal, this Friday, to thirty years of criminal imprisonment.
This second trial, in Aix-en-Provence, allows us to sketch a portrait of the father of a family found guilty of “attempted murder” to the detriment of Aurélie (1), the mother of their three children.
That day, this nurse came to pick up her youngest son at Les Œillets kindergarten. She had just strapped him into his car seat when she received a shower of stab wounds. Aurélie miraculously survived her injuries.
“I saw red”
“I had lost my footing for a while, I was in pain, the slightest thing triggered my anger”, tries to explain the accused before the Assize Court…
somehistory says
What? Why should she have to pay him a dime? He should be paying her. This story makes no sense.
ApathyRulesTheWorld says
If you read the article it says she must pay the €32,000 outstanding rent but it’s not really to him. The headline is misleading.
somehistory says
She may be paying back-rent, but the question is still “why” should she be the one paying? Had she died from her wounds, who would be forced to pay his bill?
He should be made to pay it. then, he should forfeit his life.
gravenimage says
Sounds as though she paid the rent when she was living there. Why should she have to pay rent not paid by her thug “partner”?
Lavéritétriomphera says
It’s the HLM (low cost housing) office that is asking for the settlement of rental arrears.
It’s possible she was renting the appartement together with her ex-life partner and that she didn’t terminate her rental contract when she left home.
Terry Gain says
I agree. This is very disappointing. I assume she had been ordered to pay rent for which she is legally responsible. Her stabbing husband was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
We do not need this. The first requirement of trustworthiness is honestly.
Terry Gain says
Honesty. Obviously.
mortimer says
Western women should not date a Muslim. It is Muslim roulette. One Muslim in six is a self-declared supporter of Islamist terrorism. But even ‘moderate’ Muslims may support that a little bit, and they may also hold a secret misogyny that will only emerge after marriage or a common-law relationship begins. Then, getting out may be impossible or very risky … as was the case in this tragic case.
The situation is backwards, because no religion should be above criticism. The systemic misogyny of Islam is to blame in this case.
This woman will suffer from PTSD for a very long time. She is now in the prison of her pain and that emotional and physical pain will be triggered every minute from now on.
gravenimage says
+1
Ewanda says
You keep calling Islam a religion which gives it the dignity it doesn’t deserve. Islam is a dangerous cult that survives and thrives using executions and threats of executions to keep it alive. It is a clever entire system.
Wellington says
So, you think for a religion to be a religion it must be good? Where is that written? How about Satanism? The ancient Aztec belief system which required human sacrifice, ditto for the Carthaginian religion which also required this?
The most effective way to treat with Islam in the West, which did occur for some 1350 years until the West went into stupid mode beginning in the 1960’s, is to acknowledge it is a religion but an evil religion. If the West OVERWHELMINLY properly characterized Islam as wicked, instead of wasting time on whether it is a religion, we in the West would be much better off—as the West was re Islam for way longer than a millennium.
Put another way, the very fact that so many think the optimal way to deal with Islam in Western societies is to deny it religious status only demonstrates, in part, how pathetic and futile has been the dealing with Islam in our time.
I am so sick of people, most well intentioned, believing that the proper method of treating with Islam in the West is to deny it religious status. This is beyond stupid. Actually, it only aids Islam and its useful idiot dhimmi supporters. I hope you see this. I think you won’t.
Islam is a religion. But it is an evil religion. Start from this premise and assure you that you will make far further headway than denying that Islam is a religion.
Ewanda says
On the contrary, Islam has gotten firmly entrenched in the West’s mind just because it has been considered a religion for so many centuries. This has given it status that we ascribe to religions like Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Christianity, and many more, so no one feels comfortable dissecting it into it’s extreme parts – being made to feel irreverent towards Islam’s adherents if one does.
What makes someone think that the Incas, Aztecs, Mayans, Satanism, etc., are not to be considered cults? Maybe we need to tweak those 2 definitions of religion vs. cult by examining, not the “goodness” of a belief system but on the freedom it allows to be a full human being and all the genuineness that comes with it. Plus let’s also include the freedom to disengage from it in peace and safety for our Islamic tweaking.
Investigating Islam as a cult is a new concept – which I haven’t heard done yet. – revealing all that comes with being human, that contrasts with Islam, which Islam ignores using Sharia, and is required to be followed by all.
Sharia includes no singing, no belly laughing, no musical instruments that the West takes for granted (in other words gone are the symphony orchestras), segregating women and designating them more unworthy than a braying donkey, FGM, child marriage, pedophilia, no black dogs or dogs of leisure, no guide dogs, no adoption, contrary inheritance laws, no alcohol (what will they do when they find out that the body makes its own alcohol – but that will never happen because Islam denies so many scientific facts as to be considered still stuck in the dark ages), be sure to submerge BOTH wings of a fly in one’s soup because the disease is on one wing and the cure is on the other wing, a human being doesn’t start at conception, one must face a certain direction when relieving oneself, step into a building leading with a certain foot, wipe one’s butt using a designated number of pebbles, dispatch animals in certain cruel ways making sure that the children attend and get used to watching which generates desensitization into adulthood – For even hundreds more extreme beliefs refer to RELIANCE OF THE TRAVELER ….. To go against these dictates or try to refine them makes one an apostate punishable by death because Mohammad is to be considered as the DIVINE PROTOTYPE – perfect in every way…. It’s in THE BOOK.
What’s this about everything being copasetic with Islam until the 1960’s? People who believe this should immediately read ROBERT SPENCER’S book – THE HISTORY OF JIHAD from Muhammad to Isis.
We can go on and on here but Islam can’t be discussed publicly because that engenders the growing fake label of Islamophobia. However, removing the respect for Islam as a religion (which gives it Constitutional protection), boldly opens up discussion and that is needed for the West’s very survival. The controversy caused by proposing that change in definition will tie up so many experts arguing amongst themselves to distraction, that needed enlightenment and education can be introduced to the present, widely ignorant West. ….. and “Western” civilization is worth saving.
Wellington says
Ewanda: Sorry, but your argument is unconvincing. Religions can be evil and one man’s religion is often another man’s cult. I would say per the First Amendment protection of freedom of religion one would have a zero chance of having Islam declared not a religion for First Amendment purposes, anymore than you could have Satanism declared not protected. The most effective route to follow is to characterize Islam as an evil religion. Remember, evil secular belief systems are also protected under the First Amendment. One has the right to espouse Nazism in America and be a Neo-Nazi. Of course, Nazism is overwhelmingly looked upon as malevolent and that is what should happen to Islam. Also, while belief is sacrosanct under the First Amendment, not all actions are which are demanded by a belief system (e.g., you can be a Satanist but you can’t have any human sacrifice—just as Islam must be disallowed polygamy and death for apostasy).
On a very specific matter, I don’t understand why you stated that I averred that everything was copacetic with Islam until the 1960’s. Islam for centuries was looked upon as wicked by the Western Christian world, though still seen as a religion. This is what needs to occur again though I think, unfortunately, this will not happen but it might.
gravenimage says
All religions are not necessarily benignant, as is obvious from history.
Changing the definitions of our words for Islam will not actyually improve things.
gravenimage says
And Ewanda, Christians and other Infidels have considered Islam evil for centuries while understanding that it is a religion.
Tim says
Ewanda, I sympathize with your position that Islam is a cult. However, if one looks up the definition of “religion” in the dictionary you will see that Islam, Voodoo, etc. all qualify as religions. The legal definition is just too broad. Therefore, calling Islam a cult becomes counter-productive and leaves one open, legally, to Islamaphobia claims.
Ewanda says
You said it yourself – “open legally to islamophobia claims”. That’s where they want to take everyone. I am calling a way to halt this trer or Collins, or whatever … we need to try different strategies that will tie up the Imams in debate.
The #1 shining light that we have on our side is the genetic joyfulness provided by music, laughter, helping one another, the glorious sun that doesn’t lose its light in a muddy pond, recognizing the unconditional love from dogs – even black ones, and the Blueprint that was delivered to us for the survival of Mankind. Islam, on the other hand, not only denies what makes us human, but guarantees to cleanse the globe of our human-ness. Islam is the Blueprint for LAST MAN STANDING – who of course will end up going straight to damnation because there will be no one left to make him a martyr to go straight to paradise – do not pass “GO – do not collect $200 – go straight to jail.
Don’t we want for the followers of Islam to have what we have instead of them , under Sharia, guiltily looking over their shoulder because they laughed too hard or they hummed a catchy tune, or they want to freely hug a puppy or hang some lifelike scenes on their walls. Don’t we take all this for granted in our sphere?
Infidel says
+10
Fully agree w/ you! We’re not gonna solve the problem of islam as long as we keep calling it a religion, and worse, putting it on a pedestal alongside real religions like Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Taoism, et al
Eleanor says
Totally agree mortimer. I’m afraid I have no sympathy for any Western woman who hookah’s up with a Muslim. Perhaps about 20 years ago, Western women really had no idea of what they were getting into, but these days, they should be well aware of the dangerous situation in which they could be placing themselves, even dating a Muslim, let alone marrying one and having children.
gravenimage says
France: Woman stabbed 59 times by her Muslim partner must pay him $36,000, his lawyer warns against ‘Islamophobia’
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Just unbelievable. Why should she have to pay this murderous thug’s rent?
Terry Gain says
I assume she is his co-tenant.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Wasn’t almost paying with her life enough to ask? CAIR should set up a Go Fund Me page for her unfortunate association with a Muslim, (that’s if they really ‘care’).
Walter Sieruk says
This tragic murder is the outcome of so much unchecked , unvetted and Muslim immigration into France..
To hell with that nonsense balderdash politically correct talk about “Islamophobia ” Let’s stick with reality.
John Allan says
Oh, rest assured .. THAT isn’t peculiar to France!
In fact, the Frogs have SENT them to the UK!
And doubtless, still do!
CogitoErgoSum says
I know my brain is not working as well as it once did so life seems more ridiculous to me every day now. He lost his footing and was in pain and that caused him to stab a woman 59 times? Okayyyy. I think the part about her paying the rent due makes more sense to me than the part about the stabbing. So is she supposed to pay him because he was her landlord?
somehistory says
There is no logic in islam, and evidently, that lack of logic spreads to judges, juries, and attorneys when a mozlum murderer, rapist, goes on trial. and it just keeps on getting worse.
30 years….he should be made to pay his bills and then cease to breathe.
CogitoErgoSum says
I don’t think I’m going to burn up any more brain cells trying to figure this one out.
GFF says
Kinda redefines a faux pas.
John Allan says
Yeah! I’ve LONG concluded that faux pas is French for f__k,-up!
del says
Islam is an ideology. Religions are also ideologies. Cults also have associated ideologies. Political systems certainly have ideologies underpinning them. Ideologies are quasi-coherent systems of beliefs which may, or at least purport to, make sense and organize cultures and groups of people.
Islam is not a religion in the Western sense (since the European Enlightenment) which sense separates religious ideologies from political ideologies, thereby allowing people of different religious ideologies to live together peacefully in shared political systems. Islam does have aspects of both types, “religious” and “political”.
Islam does not, and never has, separate(d) its religious aspects from its political aspects. In the West, Islam is a foreign ideology which has never been appreciably altered by the Western Enlightenment. Further, the idea that a government gains its legitimacy from the consent of the governed is entirely foreign to Islam. In Islamic cultures, a government gains its legitimacy from adherence to Islam.
Westerners seem to mistakenly believe, perhaps due to some cultural arrogance and certainly due to ignorance, that all “religions” are, or should be and are therefore essentially – fundamentally – separate from politics and polities.
That is not true. The distinction between religious and political is a rather recent Western cultural construct: a good construct; a successful construct within Western societies.
But other cultures, in other places or times, do not necessarily have this construction. It is not universal. To assume that this construction is universal is foolish folly.
gravenimage says
Islam is a religion by definition. This *does not* mean that it is either good or true, though.
Ewanda says
One last comment – the cult of Islam is a COMPLETE system – name any other system so complete that it dictates when, where, and how to go to the bathroom? from how to step into the room, to which way to place the toilet, to which way to face when urinating, to which way to face when defecating, to how to wipe oneself, to what to use to wipe oneself, to how to wash after, This all according to Sharia of which they are to implement until ALL humanity in the Globe is under the symbol of the Mosque …… no exceptions
John Allan says
Perhaps she could pay him in francs!
By the time he realises that it’s no longer a valid currency … she’s long gone!
John Allan says
Oh, rest assured .. THAT isn’t peculiar to France!
In fact, the Frogs have SENT them to the UK!
And doubtless, still do!
John Allan says
His lawyer warns against Islamaphobia!
The French legal system is as f__ked up as the British one!
At least … its representatives are!
OLD GUY says
Nothing say it like being dam near stabbed to death and then having to pickup the tab for the guy doing the stabbing. Maybe she can start a Go Fund Me site.