This is the ridiculous state of the public discourse today: Collin May is called upon to resign and issues a statement backing away from a book review he wrote in 2009, because the book in question speaks honestly about Islam’s jihad imperative and how Muslims have carried out that imperative over the centuries, and such truths are now deemed to be “Islamophobic stereotypes.” A society that stigmatizes the truth and demonizes those who tell it is in an advanced state of decay.
“Alberta’s human rights commission chief under fire for Islamophobic book review,” by Mrinali Anchan, CBC News, July 16, 2022:
Community groups are condemning the appointment of the new chief of the Alberta Human Rights Commission and Tribunals, following the resurfacing of a 2009 academic book in which he made Islamophobic comments.
Calgary lawyer Collin May began his new five-year role as chief this week after serving on the commission since 2019.
“It was very shocking and hurtful and just troubling to see some of the statements Collin May expressed,” said Said Omar, Alberta advocacy officer for the National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM).
Collin May’s review of Israeli-British historian Efraim Karsh’s Islamic Imperialism: A History came to light again earlier this month in an article published by The Progress Report, an Alberta news outlet.
May’s commentary highlighted Karsh’s Islamophobic assertion that the religion is inherently militaristic in nature, under the guise of analysis.
“[Karsh] defies the multicultural illusion regarding pacific Islam and goes to the heart of the matter. Islam is not a peaceful religion misused by radicals. Rather, it is one of the most militaristic religions known to man, and it is precisely this militaristic heritage that informs the actions of radicals throughout the Muslim world,” May wrote in his 2009 review.
C2C Journal is mainly an online publication, whose “unabashed bias is in favour of free markets, democratic governance and individual liberty,” according to its website….
The NCCM is now working with May to see that he better serves Muslim communities.
May’s review is problematic because it’s based on stereotypes of Islam that most — if not all — Muslims do not hold, and it is based on an understanding of Islam that is incorrect, Omar said.
The council approached May and members of the Alberta government, and work is ongoing to rectify the situation with community members, he said.
“A true apology must be a commitment to ongoing action and a true commitment to making amends,” Omar said. “We will let the community be the arbitrator of his good faith efforts and sincerity.”
CBC News requested an interview with May. The commission responded, saying its policy mandate prevents a chief from giving media interviews in order to maintain neutrality, given the nature of the position, but passed along a statement from May issued last week.
“I do not believe or accept the characterization of Islam as a militant religion or movement, especially in light of important recent and diverse scholarship that is working to overcome misconceptions regarding Muslim history and philosophy,” May said in the statement.
“I specifically want to affirm that Muslim Albertans are entitled to the full and equal respect accorded all our communities.”…
CogitoErgoSum says
So maybe those who say that Islam is not a militaristic religion can answer my question: When, where and how did verse 9:29 of the Koran become a verse no longer to be treated as a valid command from Allah? When did the verse expire or what other verse in the Koran abrogates it? I am waiting for an answer. I say no one can tell me because the verse is still valid – but please, someone prove me wrong. Mr. Collin May, maybe you can ask the same question.
mortimer says
The Koran is dualistic. There peaceful verses from Mecca and warlike verses from Medina.
mortimer says
correction: There are …
CogitoErgoSum says
I think the dualism can be explained by the fact that the Surahs (or chapters) in the Koran are not arranged in chronological order. The Surahs were “revealed” to Muhammad over a period of 20 years and as the situations and circumstances confronting Muhammad changed over time the verses being “revealed” to him reflected the changing circumstances. In keeping with the militaristic theme, a general (Allah) changes his orders to reflect the situation on the battlefield. The early Muslims noticed certain contradictions in the Koran and developed the concept of abrogation – requiring a reader to know the chronology of the verses. The order of “retreat” can be later replaced by “stand and fight” when battle conditions change. So when anyone reads the Koran, the Surahs should be placed in chronological order. Then the concept of abrogation should be observed. The Koran can be understood better then … and the final order it contains is not only to stand and fight but to show no mercy to the enemy – the enemy being those who do not submit to Islam.
mortimer says
Islam has DOZENS of dualisms … each part of the dualism comes from Allah and so both are correct though contradictory. One part of the dualism must submit to the other until there is an exception permitted by Allah or Mohammed.
Enslavement is only one dualism: kafirs submit to their Muslim masters, women submit to Muslim men, Muslims submit to Mohammed, Mohammed submits to Allah. Everyone is a slave with no rights under Islam.
No dualistic system may be measured by a single standard. This is the reason that the arguments about what constitutes the “real”, normative Islam go on and on and are never resolved. In a dualism, by definition, a single right answer does not exist: both a statement and its contradiction are held to be simultaneously true.
-Jihad is also dualistic. Jihad is always present until the day of judgement, but manifests itself dualistically: when in weakness, Muslims must appear conciliatory; when strong, Muslims should appear aggressive, bold, violent, conquering, domineering and imperialistic. These different modes of jihad may be understood as the two speeds of jihad: slow-mode jihad and fast-mode jihad. Both stages are fully jihad.
-Koran 48.29 “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; Those with him are VIOLENT (ashiddaa’) against the disbelievers (kufaar); Compassionate amongst themselves.”
CogitoErgoSum says
So, Mortimer, I’m going to conclude that you cannot prove me wrong when I say verse 9:29 has never expired or been abrogated. Why someone who is a Muslim would say he was shocked and hurt by hearing this is, in my opinion, either ignorant or a liar trying to deceive those who are ignorant. Please, folks, don’t be ignorant and don’t lie.
mortimer says
Answer to CES: re abrogation
According to a number of Islamic sages, Koran 9.29 the “verse of the sword” abrogated, canceled, and replaced 124 verses that called for tolerance, compassion, and peace. Suyuti said that everything in the Qur’an about forgiveness and peace is abrogated by verse 9:5, which orders Muslims to fight the unbelievers and to establish God’s kingdom on earth.
(Ibn Hazm, An-Nasikh wal-Mansukh, pp. 19, 27; Muhi al-Din Ibn al-‘Arabi, Tafsir al-Qur’an al-Krim (Beirut: Dar al-Andalus, 1978), p. 69; Burton, The Encyclopedia of Islam, vol. 7, s.v. “Naskh,” p. 1010; Salama, An-Nasikh wal-Mansukh, p. 130, mentioned only 114.)
mortimer says
Correction: I meant to say 9.5 … but 9.29 is a verse that abrogates 2:109; 60:8-9.
9.29 has not been abrogated because Mohammed died before he could abrogate it.
Graham says
The verses from Medina was added after 1979 under Ayatollah Khomeini of iran that is they are a modern day addiotion and not from ancient times at all. But this alteration and addition to the quran have not been addressed by our wicked[which they are] governments in fact we continue to support islam’s agenda to take over the world with their idol false god[who is not our creator at all- And CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW ANGRY THE LORD GOD IS? and iran and islam and the palestinians and isis want to annihilate all jews and christians. They deny the God of Abraham whose concubine Haggar bear ishmael the first of the arab nation- on one hand they pay homage to Abraham on the other they deny him-THEY MAKE NO SENSE!!
Kepha says
The Madani verses added by Khomeini? Makes sense. Everyone knows that the Old and New Testaments are a 16th century forgery from Geneva designed to uphold the otherwise untenable doctrines of the Protestant Reformation…
By the way, I’m the rightful Pope.
mortimer says
Collin May is being forced to surrender his integrity and grovel: “I do not believe or accept the characterization of Islam as a militant religion or movement”.
However, Islam is dualistic, and so it is both militant and peaceful, depending on the circumstances.
The Koran has two sections: the Koran of Mecca and the Koran of Medina. At first when Mohammed was vulnerable and weak, his movement was peaceful and concilatory in Mecca. When Mohammed moved to Medina, the Koran became militant and aggressive, promoting terrorism.
Maulana Maududi (an Islamic leader) declared that Islam is a military organization:
•It [Jamaat-e-Islami] is not a missionary organisation or a body of preachers or evangelists, but an organisation of God’s troopers.” 1964, Haqiqat-i-Jihad, page 58, Taj Company Ltd, Lahore, Pakistan
Maulana Maududi said Islam is a revolutionary organization
• It must now be obvious that the objective of the Islamic jihad is to eliminate the rule of an un-Islamic system, and establish in its place an Islamic system of state rule. Islam does not intend to confine his rule to a single state or a hand full of countries. The aim of Islam is to bring about a universal revolution. Although in the initial stages, it is incumbent upon members of the party of Islam to carry out a revolution in the state system of the countries to which they belong; their ultimate objective is none other than world revolution.” 1970, Jihad in Islam’ (Jihad Fi Sabillilah), Transl. Abdul Waheed Khan, page 20, Islamic Publications Ltd, Pakistan
– The Koran 8.12 says “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.”
-Mohammed said: I have been made victorious by terror : spoils have been made lawful to me … and the line of prophets is closed with me.
Sahih Muslim Hadith 1062
-The Dictionary of Islam says Islam is a deen (a governmental system). It describes ‘deen’ as 1) ownership 2) government 3) administration 4) legislative authority 5) subordination to ruler 6) dominance 7) doctrine 8) ideology 9) tradition 10) religion 11) justice 12) accountability.
-Danish researcher Tina Magaard, Ph.D. concluded that Islam is the most warlike religion. After three years analyzing the original texts of ten different religions, Tina Magaard concluded that the Islamic texts stand out by encouraging terror and fighting “to a far larger degree than the original texts of other religions. The texts in Islam distinguish themselves from the texts of other religions by encouraging violence and aggression against people with other religious beliefs to a larger degree.”
-The above facts clearly support calling Islam a ‘militant religion’. But Islam doesn’t call itself that, but a ‘DEEN’ … a system of political governance.
mortimer says
PROOF TEXTS FROM MUSLIM AUTHORS WHO CONFIRM ISLAM IS MILITANT:
-Syed Qutub in his book Sign Posts: “Demolish all governments and organizations that are established by man. The return of Allah’s kingdom can only be established with a sword. Absolute rebellion is a must against anything on earth that conflicts with Islam and to destroy it with great power”.
-According to Muslim scholar Bassam Tibi, “Muslims are religiously obliged to disseminate the Islamic faith throughout the world…. If non-Muslims submit to conversion or subjugation, this call can be pursued peacefully. If they do not, Muslims are obliged to wage war against them. … Those who resist Islam cause wars and are responsible for them.”
-Osama bin Laden declared that Allah “orders us to carry out the holy struggle, Jihad, to raise the word of Allah above the words of the unbelievers.”
-Majid Khadduri, renowned Iraqi scholar of Islamic law in “War and Peace in the Law of Islam” (1955) on jihad: “The state which is regarded as the instrument for universalizing a certain religion must perforce be an ever expanding state. The Islamic state, whose principal function was to put God’s law into practice, sought to establish Islam as the dominant reigning ideology over the entire world….The jihad was therefore employed as an instrument for both the universalization of religion and the establishment of an imperial world state.” (P. 51)
-Imran Ahsan Khan Nyazee, Assistant Professor on the Faculty of Shari’ah and Law of the International Islamic University in Islamabad. In his 1994 book The Methodology of Ijtihad, he quotes the twelfth century Maliki jurist Ibn Rushd: “Muslim jurists agreed that the purpose of fighting with the People of the Book…is one of two things: it is either their conversion to Islam or the payment of jizyah.” Nyazee concludes: “This leaves no doubt that the primary goal of the Muslim community, in the eyes of its jurists, is to spread the word of Allah through jihad, and the option of poll-tax [jizya] is to be exercised only after subjugation” of non-Muslims.
Whereas:
-The Moroccan imam Ahmed Assid condemned violence in Islam’s name and was immediately declared an apostate and threatened with death by his fellow clerics.
mortimer says
Muslims who say Islam is not a ‘religion of peace’
‘Allah Has Ordered Muslims To Take Up Weapons And Has Ordered The Use Of Weapons Against Unbelievers,’” MEMRI, March 12, 2019 (thanks to the Geller Report):
“Maulana Mufti Khabeebur Rehman Qazi, preacher in the Department of Preaching of Pakistani jihadi organization Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM), addressed a series of religious gatherings in the city of Sahiwal in Pakistan’s Punjab province….
“Allah has ordered Muslims to take up weapons and has ordered the use of weapons against unbelievers. However, only that Muslim whose heart has the strength of faith can raise a weapon against an unbeliever,” he said, adding: “The sword is raised due to the strength of faith.”
Qazi said: “Our Prophet [Muhammad] has taught us that the sword should be raised against kafirs, for the defense of Muslims, for the defense of our religion, and for the enforcement of the religion of Islam on this earth. All praise be to Allah, the mujahideen are fully performing this duty.”
mortimer says
If Islam is a religion of peace, then why
If Islam is a religion of peace then why are Muslim countries called Dar al Islam, while non-Muslim countries are called Dar al Harb?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why are there 164 jihad verses in the Koran?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why are there an average of 4.5 lethal jihad attacks every day of the year?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why are there an average of 50 people killed in jihad attacks EVERY day of the year?
If Islam is a religion of peace, then why did 270 million people die due to jihad terrorism?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why is it the only one that consistently produces religiously-motivated terrorist attacks each and every day of the year?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why are Muslims told to emulate the example of Muhammad who committed a violent act every six weeks in the last nine years of his life?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why were there over 40,000 deadly terror attacks committed in the name of Islam since 9-11?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Muslims continue their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the fact non-Muslims were able to defend themselves?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, have people killed for insulting him or for criticizing his religion?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Mohammed say he was “ordered by Allah to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger”?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why after Muhammad died, did the people who lived with him and knew his religion best immediately fall into wars with one other?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Mohammed’s whole family get murdered by Muslims?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did three of the first four Islamic rulers get killed by Muslims?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did Muhammad order Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why is Islam the only religion that has to retain its membership by formally threatening to kill anyone who leaves?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why does Islam teach that non-Muslims are less than fully human? Muhammad said that Muslims could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim
If Islam is a religion of peace then why does the Koran never once speak of Allah’s love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah’s cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why do so many people fear it…including Muslims?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why why are many thousand terrorists and militants conducting violent jihad? Why are there hundreds of jihad organizations?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why do different Islamic sects make war on each other?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why is it that criticising a flawed ideology causes riots ?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why did 81% of Arabs say they supported the victories of ISIS in Iraq and Syria?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why does Koran 48.29 ask Muslims to be ‘violent’ against disbelievers?
If Islam is a religion of peace then why does Koran 9.73 say, “strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them.”
Melc says
That is the absurdity of religion.
Some Christians define the 6 days god took to create the earth and everything and took a day off on the seventh as eras. So word meanings can be having another meaning?
somehistory says
the Bible does not say how long each creative day, nor the day of God’s rest, actually were. There are many ideas about how long each day was…they may have been the same length, or of differing lengths. and since man is by nature “curious,” man keeps trying to come up with a reasonable length of time that would fit those days. that is not “absurd.”
islam on the other hand, is very absurd. Nothing mozlums believe is based on anything true.
joanofark06 says
2 Peter 3:8 says, “With the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
mortimer says
Reply to Melc: Islamic terminology is dualistic and thus very different from the way Westerners use the same terms.
Muslims have a doctrine of DELIBERATE deception called TAQIYYA. If Muslims can use deception to advance Islam, then it becomes compulsory.
: – “Taqiyya permeates almost all the activities and dealings of Muslims with non-Muslim societies…” – former sheikh Sam Solomon
– “Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it … We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream … Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era.” – Sami Mukaram, At-Taqiyya fi ‘l-Islam (London: Mu’assisat at-Turath ad-Druzi, 2004)
– “Taqiyya in order to dupe the enemy is permissible.” – from Mukaram, At-Taqiyya fi ‘l-Islam, p. 32
– ‘One who does not lie has no Islamic Faith (Iman)’ . [Muhammad Ibn al-Hanafia in Al-Musanaf, Volume 7 page 642]
– “The Taqiyya is my religion, and the religion of my ancestors … He who doesn’t practice al-Taqiyya, doesn’t practice his religion.” – Imam Ja’far al-Sadiq
– Abd Ibn Hameed, on the authority of al-Hassan, said: “al-Taqiyya is permissible until the Day of Judgment.” (Reference 12. Narrated in Sahih al-Bukhari, v7, p102)
– Abu al-Darda, a companion of Mohammed said: “(Verily) we smile for some people, while our hearts curse (those same people).” (Reference 13. Narrated in Sahih al-Bukhari, v7, p81)
– Allah is the greatest deceiver – “Allahu khayru al-makireena” – K. 3:54; cf. 8:30
mortimer says
Reply 2 to Melc. Melc asks about the days of creation. The Koran says creation took place in eight days or six days in a different Koranic verse.
Islamic creation differs from the Bible creation, but it also differs with itself. Islam’s creation story is self-referentially incoherent.
https://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Menj/creationdays.htm
https://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/creation-days_li.html
joanofark06 says
I know most people on this site, only care to hear about islam, only want to speak about islam, and know almost everything there is to know about islam. And so between Mr. Spencer, David Wood, and the many commenters on here, I feel like I’ve got a good education on Islam over the many years. Of course, like any religion, there’s always something new to learn.
Before I started getting my feet wet (so to speak) with an education of Islam, and learning many verses of the koran, I had learned about Christianity, and the bible, but was really fascinated with bible prophecy, and as I LEANED that way only, I started making online folders, with a certain subject of prophecy, and when I found a verse that would go in THAT subject, I’d put it into that subject’s folder. I’m now up to 82 subjects, with their verses that pertain to that subject.
Yes, I could find the same thing online, but some of those, either don’t have the verses I have, or have verses, that I don’t think would or should go in there. I wanted to make one of my own. And so, eventually, I started seeing verses in the bible, that seemed to be about Islam!
What does anyone think about these?
By peace he shall destroy many. (Daniel 8:25)
“The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher and you shall come down lower and lower” (Deuteronomy 28:43).
“..saying, ‘Peace, Peace’; when there is no peace” Jeremiah 8:11 and Ezekiel 13:10
“Their feet are swift to shed blood; destruction and misery are in their ways; and the way of peace they have not known.”
Romans 3: 15-17
“They will put you out of the synagogues. Indeed, the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he is offering service to God.” John 16:2
Now that last one, almost fits with Rev 20:4…..
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were BEHEADED for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark in their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
The antichrist will come at the halfway point of the 7 year Tribulation period….or at the 3 1/2 year mark.
He will walk into a “newly built” temple, and since, before he walked in there, he already had people loving him, worshiping it, etc…for all the peace in the world he brought, and the miracles he did. So when he walks into the temple, he’s going to say that he, is now “god”, and everyone has to worship him.
From that point on, he will require everyone in the world to (you probably know this part) receive a mark, in their right hand or forehead (don’t let anyone fool or deceive you, because they’ll say it’s “ON” the skin, and the correct saying is “IN” the hand).
Now, there’s going to be dedicated Christians, Jews, etc etc, that will REFUSE to take his mark, because THEY KNOW who he is. (Because they studied the bible, and knew prophecy!).
What happens to these Godly people?
I mentioned it above….look at Rev 20:4
Satan is going to be human (of course), during this time (not the spirit he is in, now), so he can’t be everywhere, at one time. He’ll need help, and no problem there!!
If you can answer THIS question, then you’ll know the rest. Who is, the large group of people, on this earth, who HATE WITH A PASSION, the Christians and Jews?
Thousands and thousands of them, left their homes, and came hundreds of miles, to make a home (like roaches) in all of the NON muslim countries, THEIR home. Why? Wars at home? No. They love the people in all those countries they went into? NO Then the food? No Their religion or faith? Definitely not. The free stuff then? Money, homes, education, cars? No..
So why then, did they practically take over THIS MANY..NON muslim countries for? What was the purpose??
Look at Rev 20: 4, one more time…there’s your answer. Working for satan, and they’ll be MORE THAN happy to do as he asks…(with no pay of course).
How do murder someone, or harm someone, and pretty soon their back on the street? Remember, “mental illness”? Everything these muzlims did was because of….mental problems. That was satan again, helping his buddies out.
When the “convoys” stop….when the “immigrations” stop….is when the “beginning of the end” happens, or in other words, the 7 year Tribulation begins, or in other words again….read the Book of Revelation, and seriously decide which god you’ll follow…
Carol the 1st says
Great compilations. It should all be sent to Jordan B. Peterson. Has his “Message to Muslims” come up for discussion? Shades of dualism there as well.