Although in the West, the far Left allies with Islamic supremacist groups (the Red-Green axis) against the principles of free societies, these two, who regard each other as useful idiots, can never unite fully, since the goal of both Communism and Islam is global expansion and dominion, each under their respective repressive laws. The freedom of conscience and of religion do not exist in either system.
The East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) is the terror group that China fears the most, and thus China oppresses the Uighurs. Members of the ETIM, Uighur separatists, are seeking an independent Islamic state. Many have now joined ISIS-K, the regional affiliate of the Islamic State group covering the parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan referred to as Khorasan, and the proliferation of this group spells trouble for China.
Given the nature of normative Islam (which calls for imposition of the Sharia and restoration of a global caliphate) and Communist China, one will always seek to oppress the other. Unfortunately, there are peaceful Uighurs who will continue to suffer in China.
“Islam in China must be Chinese in orientation: President Xi Jinping,” by K J M Varma, Indian Express, July 17, 2022:
President Xi Jinping has asked officials to step up efforts to uphold the principle that Islam in China must be Chinese in orientation and religions in the country should adapt to the socialist society being pursued by the ruling Communist Party of China.
Xi visited the volatile Xinjiang region, where the Chinese security forces for the last several years have made efforts to control protests by Uygur Muslims over settlements from Han Chinese from outside the province.
During his four-day tour of the region which started on July 12, Xi met with officials. He stressed fostering a strong sense of community for the Chinese nation, promoting exchanges, interactions and integration among different ethnic groups, the official media reported.
Xi underlined the need to improve the governance capacity of religious affairs and realise the healthy development of religions.Enhanced efforts should be made to uphold the principle that Islam in China must be Chinese in orientation, and to adapt religions to socialist society, he was quoted as saying by the state-run Xinhua news agency.
The normal religious needs of believers should be ensured and they should be united closely around the party and the government, Xi added.
In the past few years, the president has been advocating the “sinicization” of Islam which broadly means bringing it in tune with the policies of the ruling Communist Party.
Stressing the importance of cultural identity, Xi called for educating and guiding people of all ethnic groups to strengthen their identification with the motherland, the Chinese nation, Chinese culture, the Communist Party of China (CPC) and socialism with Chinese characteristics….
Fitna says
China is the only nation that I know of, that is directly confronting the problem of Islam and they haven’t been shy about putting millions of Muslims in reeducation camps and have successfully got those Muslims to “smarten up or else.” I think the world can learn from their example.
I don’t know about ‘peaceful Uighurs’ but I do know many of them were involved in terrorist attacks against the infidel Chinese people which forced the Communist govt to step in.
I have absolutely zero sympathy for Muslims and I don’t buy any claims of their alleged victimhood. Because from what I’ve seen, whether in China, India, Israel, mideast, UK, or any other nation, they’re the same hideous monsters that prey on non-Muslims, because they follow a religion of hate and warfare.
Also I sometimes see people trying to have it both ways, but one needs to decide either you oppose Islam and Muslims or you side with them. Granted there can be situations where Muslims keep to themselves and never hurt anyone, but that’s usually when they’re in a small group. But so long as that wicked, evil ideology of Islam exists, there is always the potential of Muslims attacking us non-Muslims.
Only when Muslims leave Islam and have proven themselves to not be a threat to us will I not be wary of them. Until then, they’re no different to me than Nazis and other fascists.
Infidel says
The country that has done the best job in confronting islam is Burma/Myanmar: they simply kicked them all out. And once they did, they didn’t care where they went: it’s just that they can never return to Burma. Also, another dream situation they have: all their political entities – be it the current military junta, Ahn San Syu Ki and her major democratic opponent Dr Thet Thet – all of them have the same view on their muslims – that their deportation shall stand! This despite whatever their other differences they might have. Imagine the Right and Left in Western countries all agreeing on deporting muslims!
China, otoh, is keeping its Uyghur population captive, and enslaving them, and people are right to be outraged about buying Nike shoes made using Uyghur slave labor. Not just that, China has extradition agreements w/ most muslim countries whereby if a Uyghur goes there, they are to be extradited back to China, where they can be put in these camps. As a result, Uyghurs who wanna flee end up fleeing to non-muslim countries, and in the long term, are a security risk – something that Beijing probably enjoys
China would have done this right had they followed Burma’s example – just expel them, but let them go anywhere. The bulk of them would have gone to Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, which is ethnically similar to them – they’re all parts of historic Turkistan, and would have assimilated more smoothly. And the regimes in Nursultan and Bishkek would have clamped down on any jihadist activity
So while I don’t support the Uyghurs, I don’t approve of the way Beijing has done this. But that wouldn’t be the first, given that Beijing is competing w/ islam to be the major enemy of humanity
raja says
Infidel,
I like the way Myanmar dealt with the rampaging Islamists in that country as it is exemplary. But I don’t know if every other nation would take a leaf out of their books. While Chicom is paranoid about every religious group it being a fascist itself, it has taken a long road to fix the minds of potential terrorists and terror supporters. The effectiveness of their program is highly suspect and in all probability it will boil over to something else. It has taken the Chicom about 40 years to discern that Christians are really peace loving people.
The West will never expel the Muslims as it is too scared of being called names like racists, islamphobe and so on. Freedom of expression is too wobbly and the West is a house divided when dealing with the threats of Muslims.
So, the West will have to accept the truth that islam is incompatible to any and all forms of governance except hard core Sharia. islam invariably throws its weight around and proactively destroys any infidel govt from within including governments of watered down version of sharia.
We are way too far to see any resistance to jihad-anywhere in the world. I think there has been no known policy in this regard from any dispensation under the sun yet-at least publicly.
Right now I can think of 2 prime enemies of Islamists: apostasy and freedom of expression. It is too fragile to come to terms with these hence the beheading and threat to behead.
mortimer says
The Chinese government has concluded that the only good Muslim is a STERILIZED Muslim, so they have sterilized the women by providing them with compulsory hysterectomies.
Once there are no more Uyghurs, there will be no more Islam in China.
This is genocide by surgery.
Fitna says
Well China is doing the smart thing to save their nation from Islamification.
Muslims have genocided 57 nations they invaded and conquered and are in the process of ethnically cleansing many other countries like Pakistan for instance, where they are the majority.
They should sterilize the men too who are a bigger problem imo. Every free nation should do the same if they want to avoid being Islamified.
It seems you oppose this Mortimer since you referred to it as ‘genocide.’ Do you prefer the Muslims genocide Chinese people (and all non-Muslims) instead?
mortimer says
Attaturk demanded all Islamic business in Turkey be conducted in TURKISH ONLY and gave the mullahs the task of translating all their books into Turkish. All mosque services were to be conducted in Turkish. ‘Tanri’, the Turkish word for Allah was imposed, and ‘Allah’ was not to be heard at all.
The Turkish version of Islam is being gradually being replaced by full-throttle Salafism.
China’s idea of a Chinese version of Islam is as naive as Macron’s idea of a French version of the same.
These politicians know almost nothing about this complex, self-referentially incoherent Death Cult.
European pagan says
Tanrı is the word used in the Turkish Bible as well
CogitoErgoSum says
According to Allah in the Koran and according to Muhammad in the hadiths, and in view of the fact that President Xi is not a Muslim, what should Muslims do and how should they act towards President Xi? How should Muslims act in any non-Muslim country in the world?
The answer is that Muslims should obey the laws of the land in which they are living – until their numbers become large enough to make everyone in the country submit to a new set of laws that are in accordance with Islam. If the Koran tells Muslims that they should fight until everyone submits to Islam (as in verse 9:29), the Muslims who choose to ignore the command are being hypocrites. AND those who do not like that or who choose to delete the words of Allah in the Koran or to alter them in any way are committing a grave sin of innovation that will result in eternal damnation to Hell – according to Islam.
So, Islam can be Chinese in orientation as long as the laws of China are in alignment with the laws of Islam. If President Xi ever allows Muslims to become strong enough in his country he and his fellow atheists and communists will have to fight Muslims – whether they are Chinese or not. I welcome a response from Rod or anyone else who disagrees with this.
Infidel says
Well, one of the unique things about Chinese communism, which is different from communism in other places, is its endorsement of Mandarin racism. As Gordon Chang put it, it’s a continuation of a Middle Kingdom ideology called ‘Tianxia’ or ‘all under heaven’. Under this, the Chinese government is the only sovereign authority on earth
All these liberal activists worldwide from Seattle to Auckland and from Buenos Aires to Seoul, I’d like to see their reaction when their leaders start reporting to Beijing, the way Imran Khan had been before he got ousted
Pray Hard says
Well, Xi, is dumber than I thought.
CogitoErgoSum says
I think he knows the only way to control Islam is to control the number of people who are Muslims – he just doesn’t want to come out and say it.
Fitna says
Sterilizing Muslims is a good idea, without “raising the ire of the international community.” So this way nobody is being directly killed and once this Muslim generation dies off, so does Islam.
Eventually western countries will need to think along similar terms, if they don’t plan to deport all Muslims. Let nobody be under any illusions, if Muslims get the numbers, they will Islamify our countries as they’ve done to 57 nations over 1400 years.
So either we neutralize Islam or they will Islamify us, those are the only options, choose wisely.
Kepha says
Xi also demands that Christianity be “essentially Chinese”–that is, conform to the Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Mao Zedong-Xi JInping thought of the moment. Regardless of whom he oppresses and forces to conform to the decrepit faith of 20th century totalitarianism, Xi Jinping is an evil man who just happens to have nuclear missiles pointed at the USA as well.