As is so often the case.
“Bordeaux: an Afghan national who had tried to stab a worker and passers-by before shouting ‘Allah Akhbar’ arrested,” translated from “Bordeaux : un ressortissant afghan qui avait tenté de poignarder un ouvrier et des passants avant de crier ‘Allah Akhbar’ interpellé,” Valeurs Actuelles, July 5, 2022 (thanks to Medforth):
…The same day, another individual entered the entrance hall of the police station in Avignon, a town in Vaucluse, to shout the same words in front of the police officers at the reception: “Allah Akhbar.” After the fact, the 35-year-old man was taken into police custody and then heard by investigators. According to information from Dauphiné, his attitude was taken all the more seriously by the police as the individual is the subject of special monitoring: he is on file S and considered to be a radical Islamist. However, he is also known for his psychiatric disorders and for not being very diligent in taking his treatment. The case was dismissed, at the request of the representative of the prosecution.
born saturday says
there is no doupt that islamic faith is a mental illness…. but where does that put all the islamic countries and leaders all over islam and should they not be locked in also??? what is the difference between their terrorists islamic faith mental illness and their own islamic faith??? and are we not talking about a compleletely mad billions of people around the world??? and how does importing these people help our nations in any way considering they are all muslims therefore mentally ill???
nobody can understand the police reactions in many countries if they have not heard the bribes they get and the level of corruption they have…
would we not need massive mental illness hospitals to hospitalise the millions of mentally ill invaders?? and who will pay for that and who will pay for the medication….
contrary we see the mentally ill hitting injections on people in france and not only and not the opposite….
deport them all back to the sh**hole countries they came from, seal the borders…..
mortimer says
BS claims without evidence that “there is no doupt that islamic faith is a mental illness…” That is a slander. Strictly speaking, Muslims are not clinically mentally ill or delusional, but they do hold onto intense beliefs in erroneous ideas. Muslims are mostly rational people who are seriously misguided. Europeans in the past believed the earth was flat, but they were not mentally ill.
As most Muslims are not clinically mentally ill, most Maoists, most Stalinists and most Hitlerites were not mentally ill either. They were seriously misguided. Most of these people came to see their ideational errors and the MASS HYNOSIS that swept over their countries with a sense of euphoria. The Wokists are the new Savonarolas of our time. .
Muslims and other ideologues believe intensely in ideas that are demonstrably and provably false, but they chose not to look at the evidence that runs counter to their erroneous beliefs.
To understand over-valued ideas we must draw upon the philosophical distinction between beliefs and values.
Over-valued ideas are associated with idealized values, which have developed into such an over-riding importance, that they totally define the ‘self’ or identity of the individual. Muslims see their value as imposing Sharia law upon an unwilling world.
Idealized values are also characterized by the rigidity with which they are held. Such ideologues are unable to adapt to different circumstances and ignore the consequences of acting on their value. This leads to ideologues being able to dehumanize and harm people who do not share their ideas.
Sharia law manuals meticulously detail how Muslims are to force unwilling victims to submit to Islam.
Millions of Muslims are now leaving this Cult of Death every year. They leave after years of irreconcilable COGNITIVE DISSONANCE between Islam and reality.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, adhering to a vicious, irrational creed does *not* make one rational as you claim.
And I don’t think that characterizing the vicious Islamic creed as mentally unsound is “slander”. What exactly do you consider sane or decent about it?
And by 500 BC most Greeks understood that the world was round, and in 240 BC Eratosthenes set out to measure it. His figures were actually quite close–very impressive given the tools he had to work with.
So I’m not sure why you are singling out Europeans as being especially ignorant regarding this.
Then, believing that the earth is flat–at whatever period of history–is *not* the same ethically as believing it is moral to rob, rape, enslave, and mass murder people.
Some people *are* leaving Islam, and I’m glad to see it–but the numbers are not large enough for us to be safe from Jihad.
somehistory says
I think he is confused as to the meaning of the word “slander.” Perhaps he could consult an attorney or just read a law book. even a dictionary would probably set him straight if he wants to be.
let us see if this helps:
slander definition
‘the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person’s reputation: ”
It must be **false** and it must be **spoken.** and it must “damage* a person’s reputation.
somehistory says
If it is such a terrible cause of mental illness, why is it protected from even a small dislike?
No one is protective of Alzheimer’s, bi=polar disorder, schizophrenia, or other mental disorders, but instead, wish to find a cause and a cure for these. So, why, if mozlums are so infected with mental disease, is there no one in authority looking for a cure, and instead, we are told they are special and can’t be criticized.
It may make these creeps and assassins look for ways to murder others, but it should not be called a mental thing if no one is making any attempt to “cure” it, but to defend it and protect it. Most murderers and attempted murderers would be forced to prove mental illness in court. these mozlums get a pass without having to prove anything.
mortimer says
American Leftists are defending Islam in order to destroy Christian idealism in the West, while British politicians are defending Islam from criticism because they need Arabian oil.
Muslims are definitely not GENERALLY mentally ill, but they are imitating a role model who is accused of mental illness in the Islamic source texts, namely, Mohammed himself.
Some Muslims can appear to be mentally ill by imitation.
James Lincoln says
somehistory says,
“…if mozlums are so infected with mental disease, is there no one in authority looking for a cure, and instead, we are told they are special and can’t be criticized.”
Great point!
In a sane world, medical specialists would partner with law enforcement and do a “root cause analysis” regarding the significant percentage of mental illness in the muslim community.
But they already know the results:
Islam either causes – or at least exacerbates – mental illness, and the solution is politically incorrect.
So they don’t want the world to know that they know…
somehistory says
Thank you, Dr. Lincoln. We don’t live in a ‘sane world.” Nowhere near one.
James Lincoln says
You’re very welcome, somehistory.
By the way, I enjoy reading your posts.
somehistory says
thank you, James. I enjoy yours also. You have a unique way of finding and pointing to the finer points on a subject.
Sheila says
Well of course he is.
Fitna says
This just shows how reckless political correctness it. Most informed people know that mentally ill people are not a danger to the public aside from a tiny handful.
For the authorities to label violent Muslims as “mentally ill” is to falsely tell the public that while the Muslim has threatened violence, he is not a danger, nothing to worry about.
Even after Muslims have murdered people they continue to falsely call them ‘mentally ill.’ This is also so that people sever the connection between the Muslims religious beliefs and his/her actions.
Once again all it does is to protect Muslims and Islam and to give non-Muslims a false sense of security. They think they’re preventing a war, but what they’re really doing is helping the Jihad defeat us, without allowing us to fight back.
These liars should be jailed along with the jihadists. This isn’t mental illness unless we say all religion is a mental illness which makes it a moot point. This is obviously a war being waged by followers of Islam against us and our way of life. We need people to realize its a war so we can save our own lives.
somehistory says
It’s an insult to those who are mentally ill and wish fervently…in those who realize it…that they were not.
Fitna says
Absolutely SH. Logically speaking and I think you alluded to it in your post, if these Muslims are actually mentally ill, why are they allowed to run free? They should be kept for observation or to prevent them from being a danger to themselves or others.
So the authorities are not even following proper protocol in the treatment of violent, insane individuals. It’s basically a “nothing to see here” msg and pretending that these jihadists are no threat to anyone and letting them walk free.
Well what happens when these ‘mentally ill’ jihadists get guns and form large organizations and terrorist groups like ISIS and the Taliban? Is that any concern for these authorities who apparently know better than the rest of us?
How did they determine they were mentally ill as opposed to being a terrorist? What’s the defining difference between such individuals?
For example, you have two Muslims with guns at a mall threatening to kill everyone. Which one is mentally ill and not a threat and which is a danger? Or are both not a danger until they start killing people? How stupid are these people?
somehistory says
In the past, possibly also in the present for some, people with mental problems were forced to take drugs, and way in the past, forced to be confined in special hospitals, given experimental drugs and kept from seeing their families in some situations.
A person who is bi-polar may get off their meds and commit some crime…robbery or assault, and they don’t get off with just the proclamation that they are mentally ill.
with mozlums, they just get the special treatment…and imo, it’s because the various governments don’t know what to do with them. they are so violent as a group and as individuals, and the authorities just pretend…out of fear of violence, and ignorance of what they can do to stop it.
They likely think, perhaps if they think, that to stop it, they would have to actually declare war on what is considered a “great religion” of noble people…and they don’t wish to, until they have made all of the use they can from the threats mozlums present.
Fitna says
Indeed great observation.
If they’re ‘ill’ they should be medicated and institutionalized.
So like you said they’re giving them a special exception. Perhaps like in the UK, they fear riots from their coreligionists who share the same hateful, intolerant and violent tendencies.
How lucky for Muslims, the most dangerous group in society is being given the red carpet treatment, while the rest of us slobs would have the book thrown at us for doing the exact same thing they are.
Basically the Muslim community is a hot potato that none of the elites want to handle.
Until these bastards in power decide to prioritize our (non-Muslim) lives over Muslims, ordinary innocent folks will continue to get gunned down, blown up, gang-raped, targeted for attack and abuse by Muslims.
I mean the answer should be pretty obvious to us all by now…but people don’t care until it affects them personally.
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Fitna and Somehistory.
Fitna says
Thanks Graven, cheers.
James Lincoln says
Strongly seconded, gravenimage.
somehistory says
thank you, both.
gravenimage says
France: Muslim enters police station, starts screaming ‘Allahu akbar,’ is dismissed as mentally ill
…………………………
More suicidal insanity–on the part of the West.
mortimer says
It is not necessary to deport Muslims to have peace. It is necessary to persuade Muslims to leave Islam. Fortunately, this is rather easy to do, because Islam’s texts are so remarkably flawed and self-referentially incoherent. Such flaws and incoherence are human fingerprints all over Islam that cannot be denied or removed. They are the inherent source of Islam’s own destruction.
As more Muslims see the flaws in the source texts, they are leaving at the rate of about 10 million every year. This is a silent tsunami.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, you have said before that we need not be concerned about Jihad, because Muslims are simply leaving Islam.
Even if your figure of ten million a year leaving Islam were accurate–which is pretty iffy–even if there were no growth whatsoever this would mean that it would take 180 years at this rate for Islam to cease being a threat.
But according to Pew, the estimated global Muslim population of around 1.8 billion today is expected to reach about 3 billion in 2060–within the lifetimes of many here:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/06/why-muslims-are-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/#:~:text=While%20the%20world's%20population%20is,24.1%25%20of%20the%20global%20population.
Then there is the mad immigration policy that is common in most Western nations, that allow hordes of Muslims to flood in.
How many of these 3 billion Muslims will be in the West by 2060? I shudder to think. In that same period at the rate you cite, fewer than 400 million Muslims will have left Islam.
Rod says
As is so often the case, people don’t recognise the danger of people who worship the wrong gods. The French need to have more sense. And the Indians, and the Swedes, and etc etc. They should listen to Mr Spencer.
In the USA, where people have a god-given right to ridicule others (people like Spencer and his disciples) –
“in 2019 they declared Crimo a “clear and present danger” to the Illinois state police after he threatened to kill his family. Police briefly confiscated a trove of weapons from his house – yet three months later he successfully applied for a gun license, at the age of 19.” Three years later, with a trove of deadly weapons, he’s another American mass killer.
He’s not a Muslim. He’s an American. But it’s the Muslims we have to hate and fear. Set aside your critical faculties, ignore facts, become a Jihadwatcher.
gravenimage says
“Rod” knows that “Allahu Akbar!” is so often a war cry–he just desperately hopes that we don’t know that.
And he is once again implying that if you condemn Jihad terror that you ergo applaud mass murder in the United States. This calumny having been debunked dozens of times makes no difference to him.
And yes, there are Muslims, including Jihadists, in the United States. Why would “Rod” pretend that there are not? (Actually, the answer is obvious).
And his ridiculing Robert Spencer does *not* mean that opposing Jihad terror is wrong.
Andrew Blackadder says
If my calling islam a Fascist Religious Cult is slander, then so be… So Sue Me…
Anybody that believes a person should be beheaded because they grew up and changed their mind about what they believe God is, or isnt, is suffering from madness, delusion, critical thinking and free thought.
Anybody that believes some dude flew off the top of a mosque on a winged horse on his way to paradise is seriously mental in more ways than one.
Anybody that thinks its okay to shag wee boys in Kabul and yet cover the women up from head to toe is seriously a sexual deviant pedophile just like his Guru dude.
islam is a mental disorder, 100%, and many leaders in islam do think the world is flat… FYI…
somehistory says
I don’t believe it is possible to “damage the reputation” of mozlums…even as a group.
And since what you say is not “false,” but is True, it doesn’t meet the definition of slander; and since you wrote it, and didn’t say it where we can hear…well, no slander. If they tried to make a charge based on your comment, they would be told no. As well they should be told no. Much more often on so many subjects.
Walter Sieruk says
As explained before situations such as this one , that Muslim man might actually be mentally ill but that’s only because his religion drove him into madness.