No one seems curious as to why mental illness so often manifests itself in this way among this particular demographic.
“He suddenly stabbed three people: A dangerous illness made him an assassin,” translated from “Plötzlich auf Drei Menschen Eingestochen: Eine gefährliche Krankheit machte ihn zum Attentäter,” by Andreas Wegener, Bild, July 20, 2022 (thanks to Medforth):
Dortmund (NRW) – Red Adidas T-shirt, dark brown eyes, a stylish short haircut. Salahuddin B. (27) looks like a normal young man. But that can change in seconds!
The rejected asylum seeker has been before the Dortmund Assize Court since Wednesday because of attempted murder in two cases, dangerous bodily harm and resistance to law enforcement officials. He is sick and should be permanently in the closed psychiatric ward.
“He suffers from a paranoid hallucinatory psychosis. He is dangerous for the general public,” says prosecutor Henner Kruse (50).
The Afghan native first attracted attention on December 7. According to the application, he rushed into his boss’s office with a kitchen knife and followed him with a fire extinguisher until he was stopped by an employee. Three days later the knifeman came back – but failed because of the locked glass door.
Bloody deed after morning prayer
On February 2nd, 2022, B. apparently went completely nuts. After morning prayers at 8 a.m., he entered the mosque on Uhlandstrasse. Co-plaintiff representative Henriette Lyndian (57): “He greeted my client normally, then stabbed his stomach with a knife.” The victim (32) suffered serious defensive injuries on his hands. The moment of fear of death still bothers him to this day.Two and a half hours later, when patrol cars were looking for the mosque attacker, B. was walking with an acquaintance (24). Suddenly he is said to have rammed the knife into his stomach on a sidewalk. Kruse: “The puncture wounds in the abdominal area injured the liver, an artery and the small intestine. His life could only be saved by an emergency operation.”
The victim was in the hospital for three weeks. Lawyer Birgit Schwipp stands by the victim. She says: “To this day he still cannot understand why B. did this to him. He hopes to get an answer to this question in the process.”
Officials also attacked
After the attack on his boss, Salahuddin B. (tolerated in Germany since May 12, 2017) was admitted to the forensic hospital. However, he was later able to release himself from there.After his arrest, the mentally ill perpetrator could not be contained: he punched the police doctor in the face, and when the arrest warrant was issued, four law enforcement officers had to hold him down.He’s apparently doing better now. In court, only his leg twitched constantly, he followed the process attentively. The verdict is expected on August 29.
CogitoErgoSum says
I’m sure they have the cure for him in Afghanistan. It’s wrong of them not to send him there for treatment.
mortimer says
Afghanistan and many Muslim countries want to get rid of their inbred mental patients by shipping them to compassionate Western countries.
In the past, very sick people would be turned away by the immigration services.
Moreover, Germany’s psychiatric community is failing to spot these loonies in the Muslim community. My theory is that the loony Muslims look very similar to ordinary Muslims because they are all trying in imitate Mohammed who was obviously a loony character when we read about him in the Sira and hadiths.
mgoldberg says
I may be too hard, but…. they could put him in a nice electric chair and tell him it’s a ride at Disney World.
Just saying….
somehistory says
“A dangerous illness made him an assassin,”
Yes, it is the “dangerous illness” of islam. It’s islam, ilsam, islam. and I believe they all *know* this fact, but are in fear of being called names, and in fear of riots if they begin to speak about how islam, islam islam is dangerous and much like an illness of the brain that eats away until the mozlum becomes a perpetrator of violence.
some experience this while still very young, and others hold onto it until they can make the most gain out of their “dangerous illness.”
Perhaps if WHO…not the band…and not a question…declared islam a ‘pandemic, mental health emergency,” for all molzums; and a health emergency …as in physical health…for those non-mozlums who might be near a mozlum when he gets activated, there could be a lockdown on the mozlums….until they reached a ‘curve” and “herd immunity’…the herd being mozlums…
islam…worse than covid, worse than monkeypox.
mortimer says
No, Islam is literally speaking NOT an illness like a transmissible disease. Islam is an IDEOLOGY, a intellectual and spiritual product. A person can believe or not and many Muslims today only believe a small part of Islam.
If Muslims imitate a mentally ill person (Mohammed as depicted in the Sira and hadiths was certainly mentally ill at various times of his life), they will easily appear mentally ill the more they follow Mohammed’s strange behaviors.
Islam is defined in Sharia law. If it is not in Sharia law, it is not Islam.
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Reliance of the Traveller a1.r
“it cannot be said that an act which the mind deems good is therefore good in the eyes of Allah, its performance called for and its doer rewarded by Allah; or that whatever the mind feels to be bad is thus bad in the eyes of Allah… The basic premise of this school of thought is that the good of the acts of those morally responsible is what the Lawgiver (Allah or his messenger) has indicated (what) is good by permitting it or asking it to be done. And the bad is what the Lawgiver (Allah and/or Mohammed) has indicated is bad by asking it not be done. The good is not what reason considers good, nor the bad what reason considers bad..
… the (indication) of good and bad, according to the school of thought is the SACRED LAW, not reason (dis: w3)
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Sharia law tells Muslims not to use their minds or human reason to know the truth, but trust the mullahs to define Islam in the Sharia.
somehistory says
Blah, blah, blah………I don’t give a fig what you believe or your book says. blah,blah,blah…
not reading it, not reading your comments. blah, blah, blah.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, Somehistory was not literally claiming that Islam is a mental illness–she was commenting on the claim that this Jihadist was supposedly acting out of having a mental disease.
Somehistory is *quite right* that this Jihadist was acting on the diktats of Islam.
And she *never* said that Islam is a transmissible disease–please read her post again.
Rod says
some history –
re your post about the 6th January innocents who are now pleading guilty –
Are you telling me the shock troops on the front line of the battle to Make America Great Again are pleading Guilty to unjust charges just so they can run away home?
Wouldn’t a principled man maintain his innocence unto death, as many patriots have done in the past?
Rod says
some history –
re your post about the 6th January innocents who are now pleading guilty –
Are you telling me the shock troops on the front line of the battle to Make America Great Again are pleading Guilty to unjust charges just so they can run away home?
Wouldn’t a principled man maintain his innocence unto death, as many true patriots have done in the past?
gravenimage says
“Rod” here is desperate to distract Somehistory and other readers here from this Jihadist stabbing innocent people. Note that Somehistory was not talking about Jan 6 here at all.
john smith says
Gravenimage Your correct with your observations about Rod trying to distract us all from what this jihadi is all about, but this is Rod. Rod can be an extremely funny person with one helluva sense of humor Pinocchio, I have such a laugh at some of things he has to say. Unfortunately Rod is a misguided soul, just like bill ( who I’ve just had a go at) that seems to believe that it’s us that have got it all wrong. When in fact it is them that have got it all wrong, it is islam that is the darkness in this world, it is muslims that are obeying the orders of satan. Please Rod open your eyes and see how truly evil islam, because I believe you are so much better than that.
gravenimage says
John, I don’t think that “Rod” actually believes that we are wrong that Islam is a threat–he just doesn’t want anyone exposing that threat.
gravenimage says
John, I just read your excellent reply to the appalling “bill”. Thanks for that.
john smith says
Thank you Gravenimage
john smith says
Gravenimage, you will probably never get to read this as it’s to far down the pipe line,but if you do, there is one thing about Rob you know exactly were you stand with him. There is such a big difference between him and bill, a massive difference in fact. Bill is a muslim, a very slimy one who is trying to hide his true identity, but don’t be fooled. Anyone who attacks Robert Spencer or even yourself if it comes to that is not one of us. Remember this “war is deceit”and bill is well aware of these words..
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gravenimage says
Thanks, John–I came across your post right before signing off for the day.
You are right–at least “Rod” is obvious in being a troll.
I don’t mind if someone criticizes me if I get something wrong–I’m certainly not infallible.
But bill’s blaming the parents for Muslims raping children is just grotesque. And he’s made some very other disturbing comments as well, if I remember right. I’m nit sure if he’s Muslim, but he has certainly been a Muslim apologist at times.
john smith says
Mark my words, he may well lie low for a while but he will do the same again.
He is not one of us.
gravenimage says
Probably so, John. These vicious apologists for evil often pop up again and again.
Fitna says
Suddenly everyone is a psychologist these days and they just happened to discover that Muslims are mentally ill.
Strange how a religion, a set of ideas, beliefs, rules, etc can be seen as a mental disorder which usually can be traced to a problem with the brain or a person’s upbringing.
Maybe they should diagnose themselves, they’d realize they too are mentally ill, operating under a delusional fantasy that Muslims are otherwise good decent people and are suffering from some psychological problem rather than the dangerous beliefs they all carry.
Two crazy groups of people hand-in-hand, destroying western civilization. If I didn’t have to live with these evil bastards, I’d let them go at each other. But because we do then we need to make sure that Muslims are treated as an enemy ideology that is in a state of war against us, and not be given a free pass as a ‘mental illness.’
Otherwise, left on their own the lunatics will take over the asylum and we’ll all be forced to become mentally ill (convert to Islam) like them.
mortimer says
Western elites are using the Muslims as allies in their scheme suppressing freedom of speech. They need the Muslims like a man going to his job needs a bus to get him there.
Leftists I know realize that Islam is ‘scriewy’, but a Woody Allen said, ‘My brother thinks he’s a chicken, but I can’t take my mentally ill to the psychiatrist to be healed, because I need the eggs.”
That’s the way Leftists think of Muslims.
Fitna says
Ya I’m sure that’s part of it Mortimer, but they’re playing with fire if they think they can control their ‘pets.’
Once Muslims gain the numbers, they’ll use Leftists to get power and then eliminate them once they’re no longer useful.
gravenimage says
Most of the Leftists I know are in complete denial about Islam being a threat.
raja says
After every terrorist attack the cowardly Western governments especially from Europe declare the terrorist to be mentally ill. Assuming that it is true are we to conclude that islam is a religion of lunatics? Sure, the authorities have come up with this bright idea for now but it should backfire if people come to their senses.
The strategy right now seems to be to stonewall all terrorists attacks this way(mental illness) instead of facing the reality and deporting the islamonazis. You cannot fool all the people all the time.
somehistory says
‘You cannot fool all the people all the time.’ No, raja, but they’ll give it the old college try.
gravenimage says
Good point–even if this *were* true it would indicate that Muslims are so prone to violent mental illness that that would be enough to end mass Muslim immigration all by itself.
Fitna says
I think everyone in the media/elites are too afraid of actually doing something about the Muslims. Most of them can’t be that stupid and not see the pattern, esp. after 20 years of Muslim terrorism, rapes, crimes, since 9/11.
They’re just too cowardly to take charge and don’t want to risk painting a target on their backs. They know they’ll get crucified by the msm, then by the Muslim community who will likely send people to try and kill them….like they did to Nupur Sharma and Geert Wilders.
But that is the only way to solve this problem, by people in power stopping Islamic immigration and deporting the Muslims already here.
I believe Wilders had the best solution-Muslims can stay as long as they abide by our laws. The second they break them, even with the smallest of crimes, out they go.
This way nobody can blame anyone but the Muslims themselves. But I like the Saudis plan even more. They wanted to get rid of the Pakistanis, so they just declared they were terrorists and deported 40,000 of them if I recall correctly.
We have to get tough with Islam or we lose in the end.
gravenimage says
This is *willful* ignorance, not just honest ignorance, Fitna.
I agree that we need leadership that will protect us from Jihad. All too little of this to be had, though.
As for Saudi Arabia, they have no interest in getting rid of Islam, or even Jihad–they just don’t want other Muslim rivals in the country.
Fitna says
Good point Graven, they choose not to see the true evil coming out of the Islamic community. Some of them are dumb enough to believe in the live of Muslim victimology.
Sometimes I might get a little colorful in my words to make a point, but I truly mean it when I say we’re headed for a really dark, horrible future if the elites abdicate their responsibility to protect the citizens from Islam.
We can see them already showing their lack of interest in pursuing and punishing Muslim criminals to the fullest extent of the law.
We see examples of this in places like India where they refuse to go after Muslim killers and rapists, who have been clearly named.
Having a two-tiered legal system will only lead to chaos and a breakdown of society and eventually civil war…that is really one of the worst options since millions of innocent and helpless non-Muslims will suffer.
The Muslims already know this is coming, this is what they want, so it makes it easier for them to conquer us through jihad.
No ofc, Saudi Arabia is the original source of this great evil, I never implied they wanted to get rid of Islam. They just wanted to remove Pakistanis so they used the excuse of terrorism to deport them. I don’t see why our leaders don’t do the same with the Muslims here.
Also a well-kept secret among Muslims (though I’m sure most people here would know), is that they have a racial hierarchy in Islam, with Arabs at the top, Whites second, then brown people and then blacks at the bottom.
So ya they didn’t want Pak men, going after their Arab women…but then knowing what we know about Pakistani men, who in their right mind would want them in their country, either…not that other Muslims are any better.
gravenimage says
All grimly true, Fitna–agreed.
gravenimage says
Germany: After Islamic prayers, Afghan Muslim migrant goes on stabbing spree, is declared mentally ill
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Aren’t they always, even when they scream “Allahu Akbar!” and openly say they are killing in the name of Islam?
Walter Sieruk says
How many does it become necessary explain the obvious .
First, if that Muslim who went of that stabbing spree actually is “mentally ill” that’s because his religion drove him into dangerous and violent madness.
Second, what many secular Western psychiatrists and psychologists often mistake a Muslim’s religious devotion for “mental illness.”
Such secular Westerners can’t understand that a major world religion can actually be so menacing in many of its doctrines that they completerly fail to see that Islam inspires actions of Islamic terrorism.
Nevertheless , in spite of the blind spots that many those psychiatrists and psychologists have the terrible reality is the Islam with its “holy book” the Qu ‘ran is the cause of Muslim terrorism.
To quote one of many such passages from the Qu ‘ran is 9:123. which instructs “O you believe ! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, let them find harshness you..”
Stabbing people with a knife which the Qu ‘ran classifies as “disbelievers ” is very brutally effective showing them harshness.
Third n that Muslim migrant who was so horrendously malicious malicious with his bloody stabbing spree would probably still in Afghanistan if Joe Biden hadn’t withdrew the US military forces out of that land in the worse possible way and the worst possible time.
So those poor German people who had been stabbed are really victims of that Muslim terrorist and Joe Biden and Islam.
Andrew Blackadder says
Its similar to the mass indoctrination of Germans during the times of the Hitler speeches when they all followed zee orders and now we see young muslims do the exact same thing in the exact same manner.
Listen to the leader, and then go out and kill.
islam & nazism are bed fellows… and I do mean bed fellows…
Jayell says
I’m sure that readers of JW are aware of the detailed textural comparisons between the Qur’an and ‘Mein Kampf’, showing many parallels. And we also shouldn’t forget the parallel between the concepts of ‘Jihad’ (= ‘struggle’) and ‘Kampf’ (= ‘struggle’). The links between the aims of Islam and those of he Third Reich be pretty obvious must be pretty obvious as well; both are/were driven by notions of political/ideological supremacism with pronounced racial elements (with Nazism it was openly a case of the supremacy of the ‘Aryan’ race, with Islam it’s the implied supremacism of the Arabic people); although, whilst the Third Reich seems to have taken this ‘supremacy’ as being self-evident, islam created a bogus ‘Deity’ and ‘Theology’ for itself (plagiarised from contemporary religions of the region) in order to validate the claims of its criminal warlord leader to be a ‘Messenger of God’ – which would have greatly facilitated an illusion of ‘authority’ for him in the eyes of an uneducated and superstitious target population. I believe that the latter is a strategy used by all religious scams but it’s interesting that islam has kept it up for 1,400 years; maybe that’s got something to do with its ‘Al Capone’ recruitment/retention methodology, which, of course, is the basis for all good protection rackets.
Rod says
Clearly Robert Spencer is better qualified to make a psychiatric assessment, albeit remotely, than any practising psychologist on the spot. German expertise based on close observation of the person involved can be dismissed as patently incompetent.
On the other hand, Spencer’s arrogant conclusions, unsupported by any medical information whatever, could lead one to question Mr Spencer’s own mental competence. It’s been claimed that he’s a distinguished historian. If this is how he carries out his research, it’s little wonder that his academic reputation seems to have travelled no further than a little known website characterised by ill-informed obsessive bigotry.
gravenimage says
“Rod” desperately wants us to ignore the fact that Islam teaches slaughter of unbelievers.
“Rod” considers daring to note this “bigotry”.
Rod says
Well, Pinocchio, you’ve asserted repeatedly that Islam teaches slaughter of unbelievers (as an unbeliever who’s lived safely and happily among Muslims I know that this to be fanciful nonsense). But what about just one day a week pausing to wonder why Americans slaughter Americans, so often and so savagely? The statistics are appalling.
The whole world is wondering why this happens. Personally, I’m particularly interested in why jihadwatchers think that a murder by a Muslim is an atrocious crime, but that murders by Americans of their fellow Americans are somehow unremarkable. This strange distortion of moral judgement cries out for an explanation. It’s tempting to assume that you’re all a bit demented. That couldn’t be true, could it?
gravenimage says
“Rod” wrote:
Well, Pinocchio, you’ve asserted repeatedly that Islam teaches slaughter of unbelievers (as an unbeliever who’s lived safely and happily among Muslims I know that this to be fanciful nonsense).
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This is of course quite false. The Qur’an alone contains over a hundred verses calling for violence against unbelievers.
Here are just a few:
“Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fights in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”
–Qur’an 4:74
Fighting in the way of Allah is waging violent Jihad.
“Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives.”
–Qur’an 4:95
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – fight until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
–Qur’an 9:29
“Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.
–Qur’an 9:5
There are many others, of course. Jihadists regularly cite the texts and tenets of Islam as reason for their violence against unbelievers.
“Rod” *does* understand that calling me “Pinocchio” does not mean that I have said anything untrue.
That “Rod” has lived among Muslims who haven’t actually killed him yet as proof that Islam doesn’t teach violence is of course absurd. And that is assuming that this is true to begin with–either that “Rod” is an unbeliever, or that he has lived among Muslims. He has certainly implied before that he lives in a Western nation–so does this means he has decamped for Dar-al-Islam? Or has just had a Muslim neighbor who is not violent? Who knows?
Then of course murder by Muslims is not worse than murder by non-Muslims. But the former is skyrocketing with the increasing invasion of Muslims into the West, and the demand that we ignore it–along with this Jihadist stabbing spree in Germany–is just grotesque.
Then he claims that opposing Jihad terror means that you are “demented”–I suppose this is how apologists for Jihad see it. How *dare* Infidels think that Jihadists don’t have the right to murder them? And under Shari’ah one is not even allowed to mention it.
Rod says
There’s a parallel of course Jayell, to the Christian invasions of the Americas, the Pacific Islands (dozens of them), Australia and New Zealand, huge swathes of Africa, and large areas of the Middle East, Western Asia and Eastern Asia. In all these cases it was a basic premise that the white Christian was entitled to assume ownership, control and exploitation of both natural and human resources because of the god-given, self-evident “supremacy”of the white Christian race. The territory conquered and exploited was of course vastly larger than any areas ever overrun by Muslims or by Nazis.
The white Christians have since been compelled to relinquish large parts of this territory, but huge areas still remain under their control and ownership. They’ve often conveniently managed to forget that these lands once belonged to somebody else.
We could of course widen the scope of this discussion by including the shameful practice of slavery, employed by Christians in their colonial expansions, and justified, again, by their confident awareness of racial self-evident “supremacy”, But perhaps we should leave that topic for another occasion.
Rod says
“Germany: After Islamic prayers, Afghan Muslim migrant goes on stabbing spree, is declared mentally ill
No one seems curious as to why mental illness so often manifests itself in this way among this particular demographic.”
Whereas, in the USA –
Two people were killed and five others were injured in a shooting at a Los Angeles park where cars were on display Sunday afternoon, authorities said.
The entire world is curious as to why these daily occurrences take place among the US demographic. Is it to do with their religion? A religion where guns outnumber worshippers and are sacred artefacts. Strange that other less violent societies are held in contempt by devotees. But religion and reason are rarely compatible.
Paul says
Anyone who reads, from birth, the ‘teachings’ of Islam….it is inevitable that they will end up mentally disturbed……thus generally applies to most ‘religions’….the problem is simply that Islam continues to be a ‘religion’ which ON A DAILY BASIS advocated violence towards thise who disagree with their often insane instructions. Little wonder that when in a Judeo/Christian environment they continue to be mentally disturbed at the contradictions they find in their daily lives……..every Muslim will encounter the same contradictions………. but mentally, after years of inculcation……..they simply ‘snap’ and frustration turns to violence suddenly realising that everything they have ever been taught is bogus, succumbing to utter frustration……….and often insanity.
OLD GUY says
Mental illness if you are a follower of Islam. Hate crime if you are a follower of any other religion. Whats wrong with this picture? I guess you could say that all criminal and violence against others is caused by mental illness, so we just let these sick bastards continue to attack others? When these mentally ill start attacking the wealthy elite they will become criminals and lose their mental health defense. Equality under the law.
Walter Sieruk says
That Muslim terrorist stabbing people was deliberate brutal cruel vicious and malicious Such Muslim rioting may serve as an example of Muslim ungratefulness and unthankfulness for letting them enter Germany to live. This this further exposes the Muslim’s Islamic contempt for people who are Westerners and Western civilization, Western laws.
This Muslim violence may be yet better explained by one of the fables of Aesop, which is entitled THE FARMER AND THE VIPER. So here it Once in ancient Greece there was a farmer outside on a very cold winter day walking in if field to make sure that everything is in order and as it should be. The farmer came upon a half-froze viper about to die from the bitter cold. The kind yet foolish farmer took pity on the viper and in an action of kindness put it his is vest jacket to warms and up and thus save its life. The viper warned up revived and then bit farmer through the vest jacket. Therefore, the kind but foolish farmer died a slow painful death in awful agony because he felt sorry of the viper and saved it life. The point to this fable is the no amount of kindness will change and vicious and evil nature.
Likewise, this fable applies to those Muslim migrants who were allowed to enter Germany to live. Those violent migrants who are Muslims will not be impress and change because kindness of Westerners.
This is because those violent Muslims have that ungrateful dangerous viper nature because of their venomous and violent religion, which is Islam.
Rod says
Perhaps Walter you should consider that many of these “ungrateful” Muslims have experienced the hail of bombs, missiles, mortar bombs and bullets launched upon their world by the peace-loving armies of the USA, or lived through the resulting chaos and violence which engulfed the region in the succeeding decades, forcing millions of them to flee their homes. They should be “grateful” for that?
I don’t know how your little fable fits into that story. But it’s fully consistent with the other fairy tales which your gullible fellow jihadwatchers seem all too ready to accept as fact.
gravenimage says
So now “Rod” is saying that Jihadists have the right to slaughter the very people who have given them asylum, and this should not be considered ungrateful?
Is he admitting that these Jihadists planned to murder Infidels when they immigrated here?
Doesn’t he realize how damning this admission is?
Rod says
Hey Pinocchio, you’ve progressed from outrageous lies to infantile lies.
Or is “progressed” the right word? Perhaps not.
Even infants often know when they’re lying. Do you?
No reply from Walter? Disappointing.
gravenimage says
“Rod” still will not say what I have supposedly gotten wrong. No surprise there–he’s got nothing.