They have a point. Moscow Patriarch Kirill preached this on March 6:
For eight years there have been attempts to destroy what exists in the Donbass. And in the Donbass there is rejection, a fundamental rejection of the so-called values that are offered today by those who claim world power. Today there is a test for the loyalty to this new world order, a kind of pass to that “happy” world, the world of excess consumption, the world of false “freedom.” Do you know what this test is? The test is very simple and at the same time terrible—it is the Gay Pride parade. The demands on many to hold a gay parade are a test of their loyalty to the new world order; and we know that if people or countries reject these demands, then they do not enter into that world order, they become strangers to it.
But we know what this sin is, which is promoted through the so-called Prides. This is a sin that is condemned by the Word of God, both the Old and the New Testament. Moreover, the Lord, condemning sin, does not condemn the sinner. He only calls him to repentance, but not to ensure that through a sinful person and his behavior, sin becomes a life standard, a variation of human behavior regarded as respected and acceptable.
So now there are people on both sides saying that this is what this war is about. Interesting.
“LGBTQNATO: Send Arms to Ukraine to ‘Make Pride in Mariupol Possible,’” by Peter Caddle, Breitbart, July 24, 2022:
Protesters at an LGBTQ event in Berlin have demanded that Ukraine is armed in order to allow the Russian-occupied city of Mariupol to host a Pride parade.
Pro-LGBTQIA2S demonstrators at a Pride event in Berlin have demanded that weapons are sent to Ukraine in order to enable the country’s rulers to liberate the port city of Mariupol and host a Pride Parade there.
The Berlin-based event, which took place on Saturday, was one of many Christopher Street Day demonstrations across Europe, with the pan-European celebration occurring annually in memory of the Stonewall Riots.
According to a report by broadcaster Rundfunk Berlin-Brandenburg, police said around 350,000 individuals took part in the protest, which this year reportedly centred around a “strong signal for diversity, freedom and respect and against hate, war and discrimination”.
However, for at least some protesters at the event in the German capital, sending a “strong signal” against war included demanding Ukraine be sent more weapons.
More specifically, the protesters held up signs demanding that arms are delivered to the country in order to allow Mariupol to host a Pride parade.
“ARM UKRAINE,” the banner — which was written in English — read, adding: “MAKE PRIDE IN MARIUPOL POSSIBLE.”
Others taking part in the protest waved Ukrainian flags and wore Ukrainian colours — though others opted instead to wear dog masks, chains, and various other comparatively apolitical accoutrements.
While officials in Germany have come under fire over just exactly how much they are supporting Ukraine in its ongoing war with Russia, what was made extremely clear on Saturday was that the German political class is in lockstep with the demands of LGBTQIA2S activists taking part in the day’s events.
For example, the rainbow flag of the LGBT community was reportedly flown from the Bundestag, Germany’s federal parliament, for the first time on the day of the march.
Other federal buildings also opted to display the banner, with the country’s interior ministry — which is run by the allegedly Antifa-linked politician Nancy Faeser — and defence ministry opting to fly the flag, as did the Reichstag building.
Meanwhile, leftist Berlin mayor Franziska Giffey declared that her city “is and will remain the rainbow capital”, demanding that all citizens of Germany “resolutely oppose” what she described as “hate and exclusion”….
Infidel says
I’d be more than happy to endorse the Russian Orthodox Church and Sergei Kirill on this, if only they’d drop the other unholy alliance that they have – w/ islam
And yeah, let all the ‘T’s go to Mariupol armed, and let the Russians bomb them, since Mariupol is already a destroyed town. Or if they’ve run out of bombs and missiles, they can get Hamas, Fatah, IRGC, Hizbullah militias there to fight these ‘T’s to the end. And that will be another Alien vs Predator war, worthy of the finest popcorn
mortimer says
Most of the Islamic world is not on the side of Putin and he knows it. There are over 14 million Muslims estimated to live in Russia, but most are secular and non-practicing.
CogitoErgoSum says
Are they non-practicing? Would you be willing to say something bad about Islam to them or show them a cartoon you’ve drawn of Muhammad to find out how secular and non-practicing they are?
somehistory says
Great questions. Absolutely great, .CES
Jon Sobieski says
Yes, they really don’t like you mocking their religion or their so called prophet, secular or not.
gravenimage says
The Chechens sure as heck are not non-practicing. They have a Shari’ah state on Russian soil, and its pretty damned ugly. And yes, part of this is the abuse and murder of gay people”
“Gays flee Muslim-dominated Chechnya over threats and beatings”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/04/gays-flee-muslim-dominated-chechnya-over-threats-and-beatings
“Chechnya: Muslim clerics call for “retribution” against journalists who revealed persecution of gays”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/04/chechnya-muslim-clerics-call-for-retribution-against-journalists-who-revealed-persecution-of-gays
“Chechnya: “A lot of girls would probably rather die” — Lesbians live in “terror””
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/chechnya-a-lot-of-girls-would-probably-rather-die-lesbians-live-in-terror
And it is not just Chechnya–Muslims in Moscow are taking over the streets to pray, and a few years ago Putin built them the largest Mosque in Europe. Then there are the Jihad terror attacks. None of this seems indicative of most Muslims being secular–that is, actually have left Islam.
Infidel says
Forget Chechnya, across the world, muslims are not in opposition to Putin. As I note below, the leading muslim countries in the world are pro-Moscow in this war, except for Turkey that’s the expert in playing both sides of any conflict
Infidel says
Define ‘most’. Turkey is a mediator b/w Russia and Ukraine, but Erdogan is one of the leaders closest to Putin, as is Raisi and Khamenei. Pakistan warmed up to Russia exactly as the invasion was starting, and the new regime in Islamabad doesn’t have a contradictory stance. Saudi Arabia officially supports Russia against Ukraine, even as they make money hand over fist from Europe
Name me any major muslim country that opposes Russia on this. Maybe Kosovo and Albania, but nobody of note
mortimer says
The Moscow Patriarch, intellectually dishonest though he is, makes the invasion of Ukrainian provinces about Gay rights! It is not about that at all, but about HIS and PUTIN’S shared vision of a HOLY MOTHER RUSSIA, a mythical future utopia as leading the world under the dominance of Russian Orthodoxy and a tsar who is God’s viceroy on earth. This view is a religious fanaticism on the part of the patriarch and Putin.
Putin and Patriarch Kyrill have a pre-Enlightenment mentality in which the Church and State are branches of each other.. In this pre-Enlightenment Russia, the tsar (represented by Putin) rules by divine right, rather than by the will of the people … which is a post-Enlightenment ideal adopted generally in the West. Thus, opponents of Putin are enemies of God … not just politically wrong, but sinful as well.
The idea of free speech is also anathema to Putin and Kyrill, because when you have a divine right to rule, open dissent is close to blasphemy.
CogitoErgoSum says
Why do the people marching with banners for Pride not march for freedom in general? Why do they only care about Pride? I think they are as focused on killing religion as much as the Patriarch is on stopping Pride. In fact, the cult of Pride seems to have become a religion itself and is becoming the state religion of the West.
CogitoErgoSum says
BTW, when it comes to free speech, the Pride people are great advocates of banning it (right next to the Muslims).
James Lincoln says
CogitoErgoSum,
Of course the Pride people do not want *their* voices silenced – or *their* parades stopped…
somehistory says
Yes.
Yogi says
Why all the shit is happening mostly in Germany!!, what a stupid nation this country became, tolerances for everything that why you have what you have right now , it’s a bloody mess , !!, including no gas and oil in this coming winter!!!, idiots, ruining own country for nothing, oh and don’t forget take your “jabs” till you freezing and starving.. uh..
Pray Hard says
Cannon fodder.
CogitoErgoSum says
Sorry, but I am not going to fight for sexual perversion. There is a reason that 98% of the people who have monkey pox are homosexuals. Homosexuality is an unclean way of life – both spiritually and physically. Even if I were not to believe that it is a sin against God, I would still feel that it is a sin against what is natural. Can’t see any reason to support it at all. Not going to fight for Putin but not going to fight for Pride either.
somehistory says
To small children in the U.S. reported by the cdc to have the monkeypox, courtesy of their “family” members who are of the homo or bi sex club. Poor kids.
somehistory says
Two, not to.
somehistory says
There is an old Roger Miller song recorded by Brooks and Dunn in which there is a line that says, “It’s my belief pride is the chief cause in the decline of husbands and wives.”
Can be taken two ways.
It’s stupid and absurd and arrogant to demand that people who are not homosexuals, fight so the homosexuals can flaunt their immorality in a parade that demonstrates they take pride in such behavior.
Disgusting.
James Lincoln says
somehistory,
Yes…
A truly great country “crossover” song first written and released by Roger Miller in 1966.
Covered by a lot of people, most successfully by Brooks & Dunn.
Keith O says
These delusional twats need a simple truth bomb dropped on them.
Allowing a bunch of perverts to hold a “pride” march is not going to make the Russians go, “Oh my God, we made a huge mistake invading your country, killing innocent civilians and tearing apart the country”,
We are so sorry, we’ll just turn around and leave.
The really sad thing is, some of the “woke crowd” actually believe this.
Treereen says
Really? The people of Mariupol haven’t suffered enough? After Russians smashing their lives and futures to smithereens, and when they rebuild eventually, they’ll have to look at deviants in various states of undress and in various stages of overweight debauchery, waving their unmentionables in their streets. Wow, what a treat!
BTW I wonder, how much staging this completely grotesque and useless event in Berlin cost? Instead of all that completely pointless signaling of virtue and solidarity, why weren’t the costs channeled to something a little more useful than a giant street party.
gravenimage says
Germany: LGBTQ protesters demand arms for Ukraine to ‘make pride in Mariupol possible’
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I imagine it’s going to be a *long* time before anyone can hold a pride parade in Mariupol.
Still much preferable to the bombed out wasteland it is now after the Russian invasion. Here’s one picture:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F4B1/production/_125314626_24970096-22f9-42e0-8a89-28cfd1f683f0.jpg
CogitoErgoSum says
I am reminded of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
somehistory says
Last evening, I was thinking about all of the times that there was a Judgment…and it affected a population larger than the two original. Just before the flood, males were going about killing…’Fellers of men,” the “Nephilim,” the sons of demons were called. Bad, violent time.
then, sodom and gohorroah due to immorality; then the land of Canaan had to be cleaned of those who were murdering babies;
Now, look at the world today; violence as male, and female, go about killing wantonly, immorality at a peak, and the killing of babies in the millions…worldwide, how many?
Just decided to share a few of my thoughts as the world turns.
CogitoErgoSum says
I love to watch videos on YouTube about ancient civilizations. So many different ones have come and gone, many of which have left behind remarkable structures which we still can’t explain. Look at the pyramids in Egypt or the gigantic walls in South America with huge stones of various shapes that fit together perfectly. Look at Stonehenge or at the T-shaped pillars at Gobeckli Tepe which may outdate them all. The people who built these wonders are now gone. I don’t think we shall be any different. Everything that’s put together eventually falls apart. But maybe enough pieces will be left for someone else to start all over again. Yes, the world keeps turning and we think it will never stop – but some day it will. The lesson we never seem to learn is that humility is always a few steps behind pride. Diogenes said that he did not know if there were any gods, but that if not there ought to be. He was right. He just didn’t know that one is all that is needed.
somehistory says
The world of people may disappear…not all of course, as that was never the purpose of the earth and people on it…and the Bible says that God created the earth to endure forever…and that “snow, rain, hail, …would never cease.”
but, “He has set a day in which He will judge the inhabited earth.” and then things will be set right. Perhaps we will even get to learn how those long-lasting structures were built.
It’s just that I was thinking of all of the bad that people did in history, seem to be happening today…violence, and killing and sacrificing babies….it’s all just too much to keep on going if we believe that He put an end to the evils of the past generations; He has to do so again, for the good of those who love Him.
CogitoErgoSum says
Speaking of incredible structures of the ancients, here is something about which you may already know but which I didn’t until today concerning what is beneath the Temple Mount:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R140jDNA2Q4&t=263s
somehistory says
thanks much for sharing that. I had seen some stuff, but not this. I know the mozlums won’t allow much excavation because they don’t want the proof of the Jews having been their first.
This is a great testimony to what they were able to accomplish. I believe their God…and ours,…helped them.
Andrew Blackadder says
I look forward to some LGBT+=XYZ groups marching through the streets of Berlin demanding rights for Queers in Lebanon, Syria,Saudi,Kuwait,Afghanistan…Stopping outside the Embassies of those countries. Im waiting…
OLD GUY says
A Pride parade, just what in the hell are they so proud of? Next thing you know we will be having a pride parade for rapist and murders. The NUTS are running free.
somehistory says
In the Bible, and I’m aware that many don’t read or believe it, there are verses in Ezekiel…if I’m remembering correctly which book….where God says that the people are “holding the shoot to His nose,” because they are engaging freely in immoral things and flaunting it, not expecting Him to do anything about it.
I believe it’s the same with those who take ‘pride’ in their immorality today. they don’t believe God will do anything.