Islam hates dogs. This goes for Shi’ite Islam as well as Sunni Islam.
“Abu Abd Allah, Alayhi al-Salam, has said, ‘It is detestable for a Muslim to allow a dog to live in his house.” (Al-Kafi H 12735, ch. 12, h 1)
“Abu Abd Allah, Alayhi al-Salam, has said, ‘Whoever keeps a dog, every day one Qirat (a certain unit of measurement) is reduced from the (good) deeds of his owner.'” (Al-Kafi H 12736, ch. 12, h 2)
“Abu Jafar, Alayhi al-Salam, has said that Amir al-Mu’minin has said, “There is nothing good in dogs except hunting dogs or that which guards cattle.'” (Al-Kafi 12738, Ch. 12, h 4)
Amir al-Mu’minin is the leader of the believers, in this case, Muhammad.
Infidel says
Aside from the injunctions of their texts, the icing on the cake for them is that they get to mentally torment Zoroastrians, for whom dogs are endearing. In the subcontinent, muslims similarly relish torturing cattle b’cos Hindus adore them, even though there is nothing in their texts about beef being required, since cattle is not found in the Middle East
The correct punishment for those monsters would be to lock them in a den w/ all species of snakes, and tell them to feel free to defend themselves
somehistory says
They are blind to the Truth…any and all….so they could be made to wear physical blindfolds to go along as they defend themselves their species.
somehistory says
left out “against”….and I don’t even drink beer, but I am a perfectionist who keeps failing me.
Fitna says
Imagine that there are well dressed men and women, either belonging to this death cult or are sympathetic to it who are paid to blatantly lie about what’s written in the Quran and other Islamic texts.
They’ll claim that critics of Islam are the ones that are lying; that Islam loves women, dogs, non-Muslims, black is white, right is wrong, etc. I’ve experienced it directly myself in debates with Muslims. Their goal is to demonize truth-tellers or at the very least muddy the debate on Islam so people don’t know what to believe, in either case it’s a win for this hellish ideology.
This is a short clip from a 3 hr discussion between the brilliant Sam Harris and the lying silver-tongued apologist devil for Islam, Cenk Uyghur.
https://youtu.be/wIjJCDkLcXk
Here’s the full debate for those interested, it is a fascinating discussion.
https://youtu.be/WVl3BJoEoAU
My point here is that we see that Muslims in fact follow the dictates of Islam to the letter as the evidence shows. And the western world needs to understand that this is what we have invited into our midst and the danger that Muslims pose to our civilization.
As Muslims increase their numbers in our countries, you’ll hear many reports of Muslims killing dogs, honor killings, murder of opponents of Islam and so on.
Hopefully this information will trickle up to the top and our leaders will finally take the problem of Islam and the evil beliefs Muslims hold, seriously and deal with them.
Fitna says
Another good clip:
Cenk Uygur lies AGAIN about Sam Harris and Nuclear Strike on the Muslim World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6e4HosXBxo
somehistory says
OT
some “good news”…she looks a lot like her sister, i. elmi, alias, omar
“Dutch mom gets 3 years in US for supporting Somali militants”
‘The sentenced imposed on Farhia Hassan, 38, was far less than the 8-year sentence sought by prosecutors.
She was convicted earlier this year by a jury at U.S. District Court in Alexandria of conspiring to provide material support to terrorists.
Prosecutors said she was one of about 15 women who gathered in an online chatroom and regularly committed small amounts of money to support al-Shabab militants in Somalia and Kenya. In all, prosecutors say she donated about $300 over a three-year period, though they admitted difficulty tracking payments.
Hassan, a Somali native and mother of six, was granted asylum in the Netherlands as a teenager and settled in the city of Terneuzen. She was initially charged in 2014, but fought extradition for seven years before she was brought to the U.S. to face trial.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/dutch-mom-gets-3-years-in-us-for-supporting-somali-militants/ar-AA10c8sb?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=15236553d43943b69f4b05175663e235
Fitna says
Glad they’re being caught SH…though sadly the big fish like Biden and Obama keep getting away with funding Islamic terrorism.
And you’re right, the vast majority of them are ugly hags and clones of Omar, hideous ‘religion’ that creates hideous followers, spreading evil and nastiness around the world, ofc ‘not all.’
gravenimage says
Thanks for those links, Somehistory.
tim gallagher says
Islam hates everyone and everything except for their fellow Muslims from what I read in that loathsome, evil book, the Koran. Naturally they are bound to hate such a pleasant animal as the dog, which is called man’s best friend by the saner, less hate filled members of the human race. islam and nazism and communism are similar for the hatred they share of many things and many people. Dogs are far more lovable creatures than the average Muslim is..If there is a God I’m sure that God is nothing like this thing, allah, and there is probably a very hot section of Hell waiting for people who have treated animals cruelly and these Muslims will enjoy a thorough roasting there one day, which will be well deserved by the sadistic scum.
somehistory says
Tim, there is a Proverb, I think it’s in the Proverbs, or Ecc. that says, “The righteous man is caring for the soul of his domestic animal.” Adam was given the job of taking care of the animals…he was even the one who was given the job of naming each one.
mozlums aren’t taught to care about anything. their fellow mozlums are frequently killed over nothing…brothers killing brothers/sisters, killing their “friends'”….murdering their wives and daughters….trivial things the rest of us would just not notice.
mozlums are taught to hate and stay in a constant state of anger and revenge and following to the evil letter the commands of satan the devi.
there is a God, and He cares more about these things than we do. People who don’t know how He looks at things such as these, should read the books of the Minor Prophets, like Zech, Joel, Amos….
tim gallagher says
Spot on, somehistory. I can’t stand people who are cruel to animals and there do seem to be a lot of such people (not just Muslims) around as I have fed and looked after quite a lot of starving stray cats that have wandered into my backyard over the years. I am amazed at the indifference many people show towards such animals. I often think that, if God does care about animals, I might actually make it into Heaven for looking after these cats. If it is about how I get on with people, probably I won’t ever make it into Heaven. Getting along with people is more difficult. As you say, Muslims are full of hatred for so many people and things. A truly evil ideology.
somehistory says
Once, when my kids were all still at home, we lived out on a country road, near the town of about 2 thousand residents. there was a cat breeder in that small town, but it seemed that many cats ended up on our road, in our yard. At one time, we had 18 cats of every color and kind you can imagine….and we are all allergic to cats.
there was one day, i looked out to see the tiniest beige kitten on our porch. I looked but didn’t see anyone around. I went back inside to tell the kids, and when we went to look again, there was also a pure white kitten sitting next to the tan one.
then, we noticed a bobcat across the road, near the woods, watching us.
We set out a bowl of milk and while the babies drank, the mama cat disappeared into the woods. She would come and visit them now and then, and there was a day when some gang of stray dogs approached the property.
The mama bobcat…we named her Bobbi…chased those dogs down the road and out of sight. She stopped coming around by the time the kittens were no longer kittens. One of them looked Siamese.;.white with the black tips, and the other was a long-haired Persian. We surmised that Bobbi had been a visitor to the cat breeder woman.
We are allergic, but not unkind. mozlums don’t learn kindness.
tim gallagher says
Interesting story, somehistory, I don’t condone in any way whatsoever the woman who was letting those cats go on breeding. I get the cats desexed because there are far too many cats around. Because I am old and could get sick or die fairly suddenly and I have presently got 3 stray cats that I am taking care of, I have a deal with our main animal welfare body here in Australia that they will come and take the cats away (if they can catch them).if I become sick. My sisters will help arrange that. This animal welfare group admits that they are totally overwhelmed by cats and cannot handle the huge numbers they have to deal with. The cats would have to be euthanased. What amazes me is how cruel many people are. They are seemingly quite happy to let these cats starve to death in front of them. You don’t have to be brought up as a Muslim to be cruel, that’s for sure, but islam does tend to indoctrinate people in sadistic cruelty. It is such an evil ideology. The good Muslims I occasionally come across must be that way in spite of their upbringing
somehistory says
Yes, it was stressful. After a few years, work changed and we moved to a larger city. I don’t know who took care of cats people decided they didn’t want. We took the two we had raised from being kittens of the bobcat with us. Most of the others had been killed by then due to going into the road or some *neighbor* putting out poison. they poised out puppies and I’m pretty sure they did some of the cats too.
all we did was try to feed them, but due to our allergies, they had to stay outside.
tim gallagher says
somehistory, I have usually had one cat, occasionally two, over the 20 years that I been living here. These three cats are all a family and look very similar, ginger and white. I asked a neighbour if he knew anything about them and he said that he suspected that someone moved out of their home and simply deserted them. Probably right. They are pretty nice gentle acts, but are still, after three years with me, pretty traumatised and jittery. Everyone in my family likes animals and my father was a vet and my mother also loved animals so I do have to say that i prefer animals to most people. I was saying that to my sister the other day. She was thinking of doing some volunteer work with people and I said that I would do such work with animals these days, not people. She understood that as she had had a Jack Russell terrier for close to 20 years that she loved greatly. On pleasant Muslims, I met such a person this morning. As I said, I always think that it is in spite of the Muslim upbringing that this can occur because there is a lot of nastiness in Islam’s outlook..
somehistory says
tim, I’m glad the cats keep you company and are pleasant. I have often seen animals pick up their owner’s personality traits.
I was at my aunt’s one day when was a kid. We stayed overnight, and I slept in my cousin’s bed…as a guest. I didn’t know it, but his cat slept with him. some time after I drifted off to sleep, the cat jumped on my head. I didn’t know what it was…just suddenly waking me and I threw it across the room I found out the next morning. the cat was not injured.
another time I was visiting her, and one of her cats jumped to the back of the couch and then down onto my lap. My aunt was surprised because that particular pet didn’t like anyone but her.
I believe that if a mozlum seems nice, they are either faking it, or they don’t take the commands to heart, only staying mozlum to stay alive. since they are all taught to lie, it’s very difficult to really know just which they are….faking it or afraid to leave.
tim gallagher says
Yes, I’m sure that would happen, somehistory, animals becoming a bit like their owners. On allergies, I do have allergies, very common here in Australia, but mostly to pollens, etc. ,maybe even a little to the cats. I think Australia is the world champion country for skin cancer and for allergies but it’s a great country to live in with pleasant weather and lots of sunshine. On Muslims, I never really trust them. Once I read a bit of the Koran and saw how hate filled it was, I was never going to trust such people again..Spot on about their lying and maybe pretending to be friendly.
somehistory says
Tim,
You’ve probably seen guys…occasionally women…who seem surly; and if they have a dog, it’s snarly and seems to want to bite just for the heck of it. but, others, owned by pleasant people, are friendly, wagging the tails, etc.
It’s really allergic here too. Lots of things blooming all of the year. when I was young of school age, I would be sick for several weeks during the spring and summer and unable to go to school due to goldenrod blooming, and azaleas give me such headaches during the blooming in March.
But, the cats make my throat close up and I can’t breathe at all when I get close to them. A neighbor has one that likes to sleep under my car, and if I go outside, it tries to get close and even enter my home.
I like the sunshine, but it doesn’t like me. I have lupus which makes me allergic to light…of all kinds…but the sun and regular light bulbs shining, make me feel really ill after just a few minutes of exposure.
I don’t trust any mozlum any further than I could pick one up and toss it. I have seen too much from too many of them…up close and personal…and in the news to put any trust in anything they say or claim. It’s just safer to keep them all at a distance.
tim gallagher says
I used to be laid low by hay fever years ago when I would go up to the country in the spring time. It is nowhere near as bad now for me. Sorry to hear about your suffering from lupus. I don’t know much about it except that it is some type of autoimmune disease.You would not go too well here in Australia, somehistory, if the Sun has such a damaging effect on you because the Sun is pretty ferocious everywhere in Australia. I have to say that I love the bright sun light and it raises my spirits. I know what you mean about those really nasty types of dogs. I often wonder why, out of all the really nice breeds of dogs that people can choose to get, some people get horrible and dangerous types of dogs. It has to have something to do with the character of the person who chooses such dogs. Like you, I’m generally happy to keep clear of Muslims because I don’t trust them much at all. Too often, Islam twists their minds right out of shape.
somehistory says
thank you, Tim. Yes, it is autoimmune, and I have about a half dozen different ones. sometimes they work on me at the same time and I feel like death warmed over then. lupus makes the organs enlarge, can cause hallucinations as it can affect the brain, and can cause death due to its effects on the heart and other organs. I have Sjogren’s, myasthenia gravis, fibromyalgia and a couple of other health issues. But, life is good, all things considered.
My son was given a puppy once…he chose the smallest one that looked like he needed care. It was German shepherd/pit bull. that dog was sweet natured; would allow the neighbor kids to do all kinds of things and just stand there; and allowed birds to eat his food and dip it in his water bowl. but he hated cats. when he was first allowed outside, still a puppy, the neighbor’s cat got to him, in our yard, and scratched him up really badly. After that, it was all-out war if any got in the yard. and he would first kill and then bury the animals that ventured in. But he was a very smart dog;. he would escape the back yard, go around and ring the front door bell and when it wasn’t working, he would knock with his paw until we let him back in. there were a couple of times he escaped when we were away from the house; when we returned, we found him inside the garage with the door closed. We saw him open it once, so we know he put himself there.
I must admit, I like dogs more than cats. And I’m glad your allergies are not so bad. that happens to some people as they age out of it…exposure over and over, I guess.
tim gallagher says
lupus sounds terrible, somehistory. I have a few health problems, which i would expect at 72 years old, but as i often say to people, so far, luckily, they are not painful health problems which is the main thing. I think that it would be very difficult to endure health problems which cause a person to be in constant pain. With the allergies, they are bit annoying because I like to sing and write songs and sing and play other people’s songs and my allergies cause me to get mucus in my throat and I sometimes have to stop singing and spit the crap out. I have no intention these days of singing out in public, used to do it years ago, so it doesn’t matter, but it is a bit annoying. My most serious problem is clogged up arteries which could be a huge problem. I like dogs very much, but I am too old to actually get a pet, and dogs don’t wander in, in need of help, the way cats do, so I’ll stick with cats these days. i would say that I like cats and dogs equally. Now I’m off to listen to some music on youtube which I do most afternoons for a while. By the way, with your serious health problems, were you always ill or were you quite healthy in your early years?
somehistory says
Tim, I can sympathize with the allergies and trying to sing. I was in the church choir when I was a little kid…really little…and in school choir in fifth grade. In the eighth grade, my homeroom/history teacher found out I could sing, and sent an application off for me to be on the “Ted Mack’s Original Amateur Hour.” But my mom wouldn’t let me go. that’s the show that launched Patsy Cline and Pat Boone. I don’t know if you know who they were.
My older brother had his own country band and I have dreamed many times of singing in public…I did on a talent show a few times in public…before friends…but with each dream, I have to stop because my throat clogs up. And then I wake up, and realize I’m not on stage, but my throat is clogged.
I’m glad you don’t have a lot of health issues.
I was born two months early due to a nurse giving my mom a shot. I had underdeveloped lungs and lots of breathing problems, but survived that; had hep A when I was in my teens…caught it at school and my parents waited nearly two months to take me to the doc, so I almost died. My heart on an EKG has the beats going up when the normal person’s goes down, and down when the normal person’s goes up, but the cardiologist said, “Some people are like that.” I had one of those all-encompassing MRI’s with the radioactive stuff and my arteries and veins were clear.
a nurse told me once when I had to go to the ER with an injury, and they did a scan of my leg, ‘You are very healthy.”
the fibro, lupus and arthritis all make me experience pain, but I try not to have pity parties. No one comes if I do.
Hope you enjoy your music. I have come to really like Keith Urban…from NZ
tim gallagher says
somehistory, you seem to being coping well with your health problems and I hope you continue to cope. On Keith Urban, I think he is a very talented person. He has a terrific singing voice, plays guitar brilliantly and has written some good songs. And he also seems to be a very pleasant person. I was watching a bit of the talent show “The Voice” (I have very little interest in those shows) here in Australia and Urban is one of the judges and it reminded me of what a really nice person he is. He is not someone I listen to a lot. I have a list a mile long of singers and songs that I do listen to and, thanks to the stuff on youtube, I keep discovering new songs that I love and performers I like. Probably my favourite singer for over 40 years now is Emmylou Harris and I have come across many songs I like through hearing her sing them, but there are endless other performers, young and old and dead, I am immensely impressed by. The songwriters impress me most I suppose, since, if they hadn’t written the great songs, there would be nothing there to enjoy. Since your singing is wrecked, do you still play a musical instrument or have you stopped playing music? Well, all the best. I’m off to play golf.
somehistory says
thank you, Tim. I still sing around the house and even places where I have to go…not loud, but if someone is near enough, they could hear me.
Once, I had to have my car worked on, and the owner of the place brought me home, and when he came back to pick us up…my daughter was with us…he wanted us to sing to him as he drove, so we did.
I haven’t practiced my guitar much lately, I was ill for some time and it left me with a lot of pain in my shoulder. I plan to get back to that, but I sing along with the songs on the pc.
Don Willams, when he was just beginning to be known, came to my place many years ago and took a couple of my songs to sing…while he was there, playing along on his guitar. I sang them first, and then he sang them based on how I did with the tunes. He said, “These are commercial,” which meant I could make money on them, but I needed money to get started with recording them and taking them around to be played.
About a year later, he came out with a song very similar to one of mine that he had sung. Same title, little bit different lyrics and different turn.
Hope you enjoyed your golf. I’ve never played the game, but I have done some practice shots…you know, buy a bucket of balls and hit them away.
tim gallagher says
I remember you saying, quite a while ago, that someone had ripped off a song you had written, somehistory. I am shocked that it might have been someone like Don Williams, a big star. He has a very good voice though he is not someone I listen to much. I know two songs that he does. One is a duet with Emmylou Harris where they perform a really good song by Townes van Zandt, who wrote quite a few songs I like, titled “If I needed you”. This song is done by many people. Lyle Lovett does a really nice version of it.Williams and Emmylou harris do a great job on the song. The other one is Don Williams singing a terrific song written by Jesse Winchester, who also wrote many songs I like, titled “Just ‘Cause I’m in love with you”. Jesse Winchester also does a terrific version of this song. They’re all on youtube. Glad to hear that you still sing a bit. It’s enjoyable. I do sing a lot, and enjoy it. the problem with allergies affecting my voice is only a fairly rare occurrence. If I’m listening to the artists I like on youtube I’m always singing along with them, hopefully harmonising OK with these very good performers. Golf went well. None of us are good players but it is a pleasant game and a healthy walk.
somehistory says
The song I wrote was “must be love” and his was “It Must Be Love” and his was better than mine…not that mine was bad. He was just getting started, and since I didn’t do anything with mine, and his was different, I didn’t feel cheated or anything. He died recently. I like his song “Good Ole’ Boys Like Me.” There are a lot of live oak trees in Florida and I can remember the wind blowing through them at night…we had to leave our windows open to let in the cool night air…no a/c or even fans back then for us. something about that song…lonely and sad and the same time, not.
I still sing louder at home, along with the songs I esp like.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the explanation, somehistory. There does seem to be a lot of people, intentionally or unintentionally, plagiarising people’s songs. I get the impression that Don Williams was very well liked and respected so he probably would not intentiaonlly rip you off. I will have a listen to that don Williams song. My problem is more in getting my songs out to performers. I have one good contact but he is always so busy. He’s a good friend and has contacts in music but,even though he is old like me, he has a hectic life, unlike me. I’m not all that bothered though. I suspect that there are many people with a drawer full of songs who will never get them out to performers. Everything these days is too technological for me and I know bugger all about it and am not inclined to learn. I am a very behind the times old guy.
somehistory says
thanks, Tim.
I wrote quite a number of songs and one studio guy told me that he would record some, and if I was any good, he wouldn’t charge me. but, I was married at that time, and he said ‘no’…he thought I would get charged.
I doubt that he intentionally took my idea…it may have just stuck in his head, and came back later. the web said his was written by some other guy, so I don’t know if maybe he just told the guy about it, or it was a coincidence. I imagine that it could have been. A lot of songs have the same theme, and even the same words.
I wrote one a long , long time before garth brooks came on the scene, and I had a line in it that he has in one of his…exact same words, but I had never sang mine for anyone outside the family. there are only so many words and so many note combinations that sound good, so coincidences are bound to happen.
I hope your friend can find some time for your work. It’s a great feeling to have others listen to something you produced.
tim gallagher says
Yes, I do think that some of these things happen unintentionally, somehistory. I know that I have come up with a couple of tunes, not lyrics, and have had to think, now, is that really mine or is it something very similar to someone else’s tune that I have heard. I will see what happens with my songs but I am not too bothered about what does happen. It is an enjoyable thing to do although I am beginning to come up with a few songs which are too similar to other songs of mine – running out of ideas.
somehistory says
tim, I understand ya. When it comes to country songs, there are certain themes that are common…found love, lost love, getting drunk or drinking or stopping drinking, driving trucks, …I believe one reason songs are recorded by so many, is because they have trouble coming up with something new, so they go with something they have heard by others.
A friend came over once to work on my truck. He doesn’t like country music, but I had Alabama and Lionel Ritchie playing (Deep River Woman)..so right there, he began making up a country song…he had drinking, dogs, trucks and losing his girl to his best friend…He was part of a barbershop quartet and could sing. His on-the-spur of the moment song would have probably made a hit.
I get lyrics going, but soon the tune in my head goes poof and all I have are lyrics.
And I know what you mean about wondering if your tune is yours or was one you heard and stored away. Hard to tell sometimes. I can usually tell a song that I’ve heard with the first few notes, but every now and then, I get it wrong because tunes can be so similar.
tim gallagher says
I like many different types of music, somehistory. You’re probably the same. I think most people are. Pop music, old standards, jazz songs,soul, gospel, etc. Just on the theme you mention in country songs – the cliche about it anyway. There is a really clever song by John Prine, who wrote some good songs, both sad and funny, titled “Crazy as a loon”. It has a verse which goes, “So I went down to Nashville to become a country music star/ Every night you could find me drinking in a different honky tonk or bar/ Pretty soon, I met a woman, pretty soon she done me wrong/ pretty soon my life was sadder than any country song”,then the chorus “Yeah, that town’ll drive you crazy, just give it a little time” and so on. I think it’s brilliant, very clever. He wrote another witty song titled “In spite of ourselves” but also sad songs like “angel from Montgomery”. The same themes are repeated over and over in all types of songs, but with a bit of creative variation. Life doesn’t change that much. So far, I don’t think I’ve stolen any tunes, but it is hard to be sure. I not too stressed about it. At my age, I doubt whether I’ll end up writing a song that becomes a hit and then see myself being sued for plagiarism, though I do think I have a few songs that, with luck, could be commercial successes. But who knows? And I’m a pretty low energy old guy by now.
somehistory says
Yes, tim, I like some of most kinds….with the exceptions of hiphop and rap. I like the ones you named, and, some Classical, Dixieland and even a little bit of opera…but only a little bit of that. No high-pitched women singing opera for me. the Blind Tenor…don’t want to ruin the spelling of his name, I’ve heard do some nice work.
mostly I like the old rock n roll and country…stuff by Strait, Alan Jackson,, Clint Black Reba,
and I agree about the song…I have heard it a time or two. and there was another about a song-writer singer who said his friends said he hadn’t written about trains, rain, his mother, getting drunk and jail. so, he wrote, “I was drunk the day my ma got out of prison and I went to pick her up in the rain. But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck, she got runned over by a damned old train.”
Country music is a Southern thing here. Lot of people from the northern states don’t like it. My brother was invited to sing at the Grand Ol’ Opry and the night he sang there, Mel Street had killed himself that day, so the audience was slim.
country music has a lot of fans, but mainly from the South. and they are loyal to their favorite artists.
tim gallagher says
I agree with you about rap music, somehistory. I have no interest in it. Because of my total lack of interest i wouldn’t have a clue what hip hop music even sounds like, although I have heard the term used. I probably only like a couple of opera type songs. That song you mention has pretty clever lyrics. As I have said before, I would have a list a mile long of songs, singers and musicians that I like, and in all types of music. It’s funny, those country musicians you mention I haven’t listened to at all. I know their names and that they are huge stars, but the ones I mostly listen to are people like Emmylou Harris, Rodney Crowell, Guy Clark, Townes van Zandt, Nanci Griffith, Jesse Winchester, John Prine and some others. I like Alison Krauss a lot too. There are plenty of very talented performers around and plenty of very good songs. Through youtube I do keep coming across other people, often much younger people,that impress me and that I had never heard of..
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Tim and Somehistory.
tim gallagher says
Thanks, gravenimage. I know that you are also an animal lover who takes care of stray cats. I hope your cats are going well. They are great fun to have around. Being quite old now, I do have to worry about not being able to keep feeding and looking after them. There are some other animal lovers out here where I live, I was talking to an old woman in the supermarket who was feeding 8 cats.but a lot of people here would let them starve to death if something goes wrong with my health, so I had to make that arrangement with the animal charity, which I do give some money to each year.
gravenimage says
So nice of you, Tim. There are a lot of animal lovers in the civilized world–in Dar-al-Islam it is much rarer. I also feel for the poor people running this shelter–they must be devastated.
tim gallagher says
No worries, gravenimage. I’m sure you do a great job looking after your cats. The animal shelter I mentioned is a huge body out here, the main one in Australia, and is called the RSPCA, the Royal Society for the Prevention to Cruelty to Animals (you can see how close to England we sometimes tend to remain in the name of the group). I was visiting their headquarters in Sydney, giving them some money, and picked up a brochure that explained the problem they have with the number of cats, basically because of the huge numbers that cats are capable of producing each breeding season. It is beyond what even a big organisation like the RSPCA can handle. Just on that old woman in the supermarket, I typed the wrong number. She was feeding 6 cats, not 8, which is still huge number. i should have given her a bit of money, to help feed them, but only thought of it later on.
gravenimage says
Yes, this is a big problem, Tim. We regularly contribute to a group that spays and neuters (“desexes”–a term I had not seen used in this context before) feral cats and adopts out those who can be socialized–usually either strays living feral or else kittens socialized early enough–although some life-long ferals also take to people when treated kindly. Our cats now are a brother and sister who just turned eight and a pair of sisters who are three. All great guys.
James Hoagland says
Really like this comment. I’ve been feeding street cats for about 9 years now. One by one I have a pretty personal relationship with 6 of them. Between my wife and myself we have named many including some who have died. I pet regularly a number of them and that helps them to calm and eat. They have varied personalities and I totally accept that animals have souls as well as us humans.
As regards Islam: I had thought in my younger years that no group could misrepresent reality and twist fact and truth more than a communist. In these past few years I have come to see that Jihadists are even more dense than communists. The phrase “… life, liberty and pursuit of happiness..” however shows these two evil entities to be anti-life and therefore, self-destructive.
tim gallagher says
gravenimage, I think that most people out here in Australia would say that they are getting cats of dogs desexed though the other terms are used as well. I typed in a slight mistake on the meaning the RSPCA. It is “Prevention of Cruelty to Animals”. The oldest of the three cats I have had for the past 3 years or so has gone missing since yesterday. I doubt whether he is alive. He was getting very old and haggard looking, but, since he still had a great appetite, I thought, well I won’t get him put down just yet, but he was wandering and crossing a somewhat busy road near my house and I suspect he may have got run over. I couldn’t find him though. He would have come back by now if able to do so because he loved his food. So now I have two cats and the youngest one will miss the old one a lot. I just look after them until, in a few cases, some disaster or disease ruins their quality of life. I had another one that I found down the road a bit which had been hit by a car and was dead.over. It was already a sick old cat and I was just about to have it euthanased.
tim gallagher says
James, I have lived in the house I’m presently living in for over 20 years and, in that time, I have had 10 cats wander in and stay. Some do calm down and I always treat them well and give them plenty of food, but I notice that some of them are traumatised and always remain quite jumpy and, quite sensibly, don’t ever get to trust me all that much, and no doubt would not trust any human being. life has been too tough for them earlier on. I just give them pleasant treatment, which they deserve to receive, and I do find them fascinating animals and enjoyable to have around.. Where I live, there are some people who are kind to animals but a lot who would let them starve to death and are completely indifferent to their fate. Some of the cats that have wandered into my backyard have been in an appalling, pretty much starved, state and their condition improves a lot once they get a decent amount of food.
Wellington says
Anyone deliberately cruel to a dog will eventually, if not already, be deliberately cruel to a human being.
Islam is “sterling” in this regard. Damn right it is.
What a sick religion Islam is. And so I say shame on any adult Muslim who willingly remains a Muslim. There is no excuse for you. None.
Infidel says
It’s practice for cruelty to humans. It’s dogs in Iran and Qatar, cattle in Pakistan and Bangladesh, and other animals in different places
gravenimage says
So true, Wellington and Infidel.
PRCS says
“And so I say shame on any adult Muslim who willingly remains a Muslim. There is no excuse for you. None.”
For many, there is no way out.
For them, I have pity. For those in the West–in particular–who can leave ‘the faith” but don’t, I have disgust.
Wellington says
I agree, PMK, and that is why I used the word “willingly.” If a person has to pretend they’re still a Muslim for safety’s sake I have often here at JW indicated that that is eminently defensible.
gravenimage says
Iran: Regime agents raid dog shelter, kill more than 1,700 dogs
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Just horrifying–and this was the regime itself.
Still, it reminds me of this recent story:
“Qatar: Muslims storm secure facility used to feed and shelter stray dogs, killing 29 of them”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2022/07/qatar-muslims-storm-secure-facility-used-to-feed-and-shelter-stray-dogs-killing-29-of-them
Eleanor says
I suppose it would be too much to suggest for Iran to contact the SPCA in a few dog-loving Western countries to let them know “hey, we’ve got 1700 dogs here we don’t want — if you send a couple of cargo planes and a couple of vets for the trip, they’re all yours.”
gravenimage says
That is what the people running pet shelters in Qatar do. They are able to adopt out a few pets locally, but they have regular airlifts to Europe and Britain to find these animals homes.
Iran *could* have done this, but they were more intent on brutalizing these dogs and the people who cared about them. And this may not end here–I would not be surprised if those running the shelter and even their volunteers were arrested.
James Hoagland says
Nothing Divine about these creatures and they glow in their lust for vices. Everything with these creatures is the opposite of goodness. Some say they are just ignorant but ignorant may apply to individual Muslims but, for me, Islam is just evil.
European pagan says
All animals are made by God, if a religion teaches that this or that animal is bad, and you can be cruel to them – it’s a human made religion.
somehistory says
good observation
OLD GUY says
Yep that’s right if you don’t like something or someone under islam you simply kill them. And our political leaders want to have open borders and bring these people to our neighborhoods, Won’t they make great neighbors,