The Iranian death fatwa is still in effect, and of course Iran is now emboldened by Biden’s weakness and appeasement.
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Ashleysays
Oh wow!
mortimersays
You know the verse : K. 8.12 – When you meet the disbelievers (kafirs), strike the neck.
It’s Allah’s ‘eternal, perfect’ words that may never be expunged from Islam.
Stabbing critics of Islam is NORMATIVE Islam, rather than an aberration.
Note: a FATWA from one of the sheikhs is NOT NECESSARY. Any Muslim has permission to act as a vigilante to assassinate an apostate or critic of Islam.
What is ‘normative Islam’ is decided by the fatwa department at Al Azhar University, not by a private opinion. In the 1992 murder of apostate Farag Foda, Al Azhar’s scholars argued in court that when the state fails to punish apostates, “somebody else has to do it.”
Wellingtonsays
mortimer, I believe that that verse is Sura 47:4 about striking the neck of disbelievers.
Westmansays
Both call for striking the neck, Q 8/12 having the extra sauce of bodily mutilation – “strike from them every fingertip.”
Islam, the religion of gore – Chop out the Woman’s clitoris, clop off hands and legs of thieves, cut off the heads of unbelievers, throw gays off high structures, stone married adulterers, kill apostates by any method. When ISIS was in charge, mutilations were entertainment for the believers.
gravenimagesays
Lots of Islamic calls for savagery to go around.
Wellingtonsays
Thanks for that correction, Westman. I will remember that both 8:12 and 47:4 direct deluded Mo followers to use “a neck approach” in order to sustain their warped religion. Man, Islam is so sick and I am so disgusted with it.
Westmansays
I really didn’t know, Wellington, until I searched for it. Here is a handy source that has multiple translation of the Quran. legacy.quran.com it has a search engine for any word in any translation. You can also look up a surah and verse using / as a separator.
legacy.quran.com/47/4-6 would show Quran Surah 47 verses 4 through 6
legacy.quran.com/47/4 would only bring up verse 4
Evasays
I’ve got to be honest, I’m surprised they didn’t manage it long before this.
Keith Osays
+1
gravenimagesays
Jihadists already murdered one of Rushdie’s editors and one of his translators.
Westmansays
The stench of Ayatollah Khomeini still remains.
This was a terrorist act. The terrorist belongs in the special place for terrorists, Gitmo.
somehistorysays
As long as one devout mozlum remains, others are not safe from the terror demanded by the cult of death and “submission.”
the 80’s were a long time ago. But, mozlums who believe they have a right to murder, will continue to do so..
mortimersays
Vigilantism is recommended by Mohammed, Koran and Sharia:
-“Whosoever among you sees an act of wrong SHOULD CHANGE IT WITH HIS HANDS. If he is not able to do so, then he should change it with his tongue. If he is not able to do so, then with his heart, and this is the weakest of faith.” (Sahih Muslim, 49)
– “Let there arise from you a group calling to all that is good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong. It is these who are successful.” (Koran 3:104).
-The Shafi’i Sharia manual ‘Umdat al-Salik says that “an expiation is due to Allah Most High from anyone who kills someone unlawful to kill…” (o5.1). However, “there is no expiation for killing someone who has left Islam” (o5.4). In other words, a Muslim who kills is liable to punishment, but he isn’t liable to punishment if he kills an apostate.
gravenimagesays
+1
Wellingtonsays
Islam is very patient as well as being evil and a mortal threat to freedom. It harbors grudges forever.
gravenimagesays
Yes–nursing murderous grudges is the *only* thing Islam is patient about.
Johnny Bsays
Imagine when most Western countries become 20-30% Muslim in 1 generation. It’s pure math … and Islam… and the demographic changes are only accellerating. And what is the answer from our leaders: don’t even talk about it if you know what’s good for you and prepare for even more Muslim migration in the coming years…
Johnsays
Couldn’t one put some type of birth control in the water supply of Muslim no go zones? Just a thought…..
gravenimagesays
This is what Muslims constantly claim Infidels do.
Westmansays
John, you may have just set off paranoid fears across the EU! And what group is more paranoid about Jews.
Such things usually won’t work because the chemical as a percentage of the water volume doesn’t even register in the ppb. Next time you see a flock of birds flying over a reservoir, or a cow leaving something in a tributary, or wondering what comes out of fish, ask yourself how the water treatment plant removes such things – it doesn’t. It is just so minute that it’s not a threat to health.
Now, about what’s in that breakfast cereal….
Tormodsays
The fact that nobody bothered to provide adequate security given that he was THREATENED with DEAT is appalling, pathetic, asinine negligence..
gravenimagesays
Not sure if Chautauqua was to blame here or not, Tormod. Rushdie got so sick of security after a while that in many cases he requested it be slackened or omitted altogether. He also said after a few years that he no longer considered the Fatwa to be a threat, which I always thought was rather naive.
And if you look at pictures of the stage where he was stabbed, it is obvious that it is simply not set up for serious security–the audience has easy access to the entire length of the stage. Not a lot of violence at book readings in the normal course of things–the worst you generally run into is an overeager fan or two with the very popular authors.
Ashleysays
Glad Hans Christian Anderson isn’t around to see this…
Imagine how Islam would respond to “The Emperor’s New Clothes.”. I shudder to think of the fatwa for that one…
gravenimagesays
Salman Rushdie stabbed
…………………………….
Yes–I just heard about this. I had always worried that this was still a danger, even though Rushdie himself treated it as a thing of the past. I hope he recovers.
But there will be more attacks on Infidels and those considered “heretics” who can be treated as virtual Infidels. “The Satanic Verses” are considered blasphemy. How dare *anyone* question the texts of Islam?
And as others have noted, no doubt this Jihadist’s hope was to behead his victim.
Ashleysays
Man, am I glad to find you still posting here, graven!
Had to take a break but I’m back! Now I feel right at home when I see your astute posts!
Yeah…this attack on Rushdie really sucks.
gravenimagesays
Thank you, Ashley. Glad to see you back! I’ve missed your posts. Hope you are well. Sorry the occasion is an attack on Salman Rushdie.
It was not 9/11 but the earlier Fatwa on Rushdie that made me realize that Islam presented a threat to the West.
gravenimagesays
Yes–confirmed that the Jihadist tried to strike Rushdie’s neck:
“Salman Rushdie, a renowned novelist whose work made him the subject of death threats, was attacked at a speaking event in Chautauqua, N.Y., on Friday by a man who stormed the stage and stabbed the writer in the neck, police said.”
Rushdie is in surgery. New York Police identified the attacker as Hadi Matar “24-year-old from New Jersey”
And, as always, the laughable, “..there is not yet any indication of the motive of Rushdie’s attacker.”
gravenimagesays
Spot on, Westman.
tim gallaghersays
Salman Rushdie is just one of endless victims of the totally intolerant, violent religion, islam. All those people at the Charlie Hebdo office come to mind. The barbaric Muslims will go after anyone who uses our western style freedom of speech to criticise islam. The only answer is to shut the Muslim barbarians, the enemy of all our freedoms, out of our countries. Whatever problems Hungary might have, and those other sensible Visegrad bloc countries might have, they won’t have to put up with this sort of evil garbage from the barbaric members of islam. If you have Muslims in your country, then this is the sort of evil shit you always have to put up with. Civilised life and islam do not get along at all. They never have and they never will.
Infidelsays
So has Hadi Matar received the bounty promised some 30 years ago by Ayatollah Khomenei, and has that bounty been adjusted for inflation? He should be able to afford a great pad anywhere in Jersey state
JHLsays
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Ashley says
Oh wow!
mortimer says
You know the verse : K. 8.12 – When you meet the disbelievers (kafirs), strike the neck.
It’s Allah’s ‘eternal, perfect’ words that may never be expunged from Islam.
Stabbing critics of Islam is NORMATIVE Islam, rather than an aberration.
Note: a FATWA from one of the sheikhs is NOT NECESSARY. Any Muslim has permission to act as a vigilante to assassinate an apostate or critic of Islam.
What is ‘normative Islam’ is decided by the fatwa department at Al Azhar University, not by a private opinion. In the 1992 murder of apostate Farag Foda, Al Azhar’s scholars argued in court that when the state fails to punish apostates, “somebody else has to do it.”
Wellington says
mortimer, I believe that that verse is Sura 47:4 about striking the neck of disbelievers.
Westman says
Both call for striking the neck, Q 8/12 having the extra sauce of bodily mutilation – “strike from them every fingertip.”
Islam, the religion of gore – Chop out the Woman’s clitoris, clop off hands and legs of thieves, cut off the heads of unbelievers, throw gays off high structures, stone married adulterers, kill apostates by any method. When ISIS was in charge, mutilations were entertainment for the believers.
gravenimage says
Lots of Islamic calls for savagery to go around.
Wellington says
Thanks for that correction, Westman. I will remember that both 8:12 and 47:4 direct deluded Mo followers to use “a neck approach” in order to sustain their warped religion. Man, Islam is so sick and I am so disgusted with it.
Westman says
I really didn’t know, Wellington, until I searched for it. Here is a handy source that has multiple translation of the Quran. legacy.quran.com it has a search engine for any word in any translation. You can also look up a surah and verse using / as a separator.
legacy.quran.com/47/4-6 would show Quran Surah 47 verses 4 through 6
legacy.quran.com/47/4 would only bring up verse 4
Eva says
I’ve got to be honest, I’m surprised they didn’t manage it long before this.
Keith O says
+1
gravenimage says
Jihadists already murdered one of Rushdie’s editors and one of his translators.
Westman says
The stench of Ayatollah Khomeini still remains.
This was a terrorist act. The terrorist belongs in the special place for terrorists, Gitmo.
somehistory says
As long as one devout mozlum remains, others are not safe from the terror demanded by the cult of death and “submission.”
the 80’s were a long time ago. But, mozlums who believe they have a right to murder, will continue to do so..
mortimer says
Vigilantism is recommended by Mohammed, Koran and Sharia:
-“Whosoever among you sees an act of wrong SHOULD CHANGE IT WITH HIS HANDS. If he is not able to do so, then he should change it with his tongue. If he is not able to do so, then with his heart, and this is the weakest of faith.” (Sahih Muslim, 49)
– “Let there arise from you a group calling to all that is good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong. It is these who are successful.” (Koran 3:104).
-The Shafi’i Sharia manual ‘Umdat al-Salik says that “an expiation is due to Allah Most High from anyone who kills someone unlawful to kill…” (o5.1). However, “there is no expiation for killing someone who has left Islam” (o5.4). In other words, a Muslim who kills is liable to punishment, but he isn’t liable to punishment if he kills an apostate.
gravenimage says
+1
Wellington says
Islam is very patient as well as being evil and a mortal threat to freedom. It harbors grudges forever.
gravenimage says
Yes–nursing murderous grudges is the *only* thing Islam is patient about.
Johnny B says
Imagine when most Western countries become 20-30% Muslim in 1 generation. It’s pure math … and Islam… and the demographic changes are only accellerating. And what is the answer from our leaders: don’t even talk about it if you know what’s good for you and prepare for even more Muslim migration in the coming years…
John says
Couldn’t one put some type of birth control in the water supply of Muslim no go zones? Just a thought…..
gravenimage says
This is what Muslims constantly claim Infidels do.
Westman says
John, you may have just set off paranoid fears across the EU! And what group is more paranoid about Jews.
Such things usually won’t work because the chemical as a percentage of the water volume doesn’t even register in the ppb. Next time you see a flock of birds flying over a reservoir, or a cow leaving something in a tributary, or wondering what comes out of fish, ask yourself how the water treatment plant removes such things – it doesn’t. It is just so minute that it’s not a threat to health.
Now, about what’s in that breakfast cereal….
Tormod says
The fact that nobody bothered to provide adequate security given that he was THREATENED with DEAT is appalling, pathetic, asinine negligence..
gravenimage says
Not sure if Chautauqua was to blame here or not, Tormod. Rushdie got so sick of security after a while that in many cases he requested it be slackened or omitted altogether. He also said after a few years that he no longer considered the Fatwa to be a threat, which I always thought was rather naive.
And if you look at pictures of the stage where he was stabbed, it is obvious that it is simply not set up for serious security–the audience has easy access to the entire length of the stage. Not a lot of violence at book readings in the normal course of things–the worst you generally run into is an overeager fan or two with the very popular authors.
Ashley says
Glad Hans Christian Anderson isn’t around to see this…
Imagine how Islam would respond to “The Emperor’s New Clothes.”. I shudder to think of the fatwa for that one…
gravenimage says
Salman Rushdie stabbed
…………………………….
Yes–I just heard about this. I had always worried that this was still a danger, even though Rushdie himself treated it as a thing of the past. I hope he recovers.
But there will be more attacks on Infidels and those considered “heretics” who can be treated as virtual Infidels. “The Satanic Verses” are considered blasphemy. How dare *anyone* question the texts of Islam?
And as others have noted, no doubt this Jihadist’s hope was to behead his victim.
Ashley says
Man, am I glad to find you still posting here, graven!
Had to take a break but I’m back! Now I feel right at home when I see your astute posts!
Yeah…this attack on Rushdie really sucks.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Ashley. Glad to see you back! I’ve missed your posts. Hope you are well. Sorry the occasion is an attack on Salman Rushdie.
It was not 9/11 but the earlier Fatwa on Rushdie that made me realize that Islam presented a threat to the West.
gravenimage says
Yes–confirmed that the Jihadist tried to strike Rushdie’s neck:
“Salman Rushdie, a renowned novelist whose work made him the subject of death threats, was attacked at a speaking event in Chautauqua, N.Y., on Friday by a man who stormed the stage and stabbed the writer in the neck, police said.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/08/12/rushdie-stabbed-chautauqua/
Westman says
Rushdie is in surgery. New York Police identified the attacker as Hadi Matar “24-year-old from New Jersey”
And, as always, the laughable, “..there is not yet any indication of the motive of Rushdie’s attacker.”
gravenimage says
Spot on, Westman.
tim gallagher says
Salman Rushdie is just one of endless victims of the totally intolerant, violent religion, islam. All those people at the Charlie Hebdo office come to mind. The barbaric Muslims will go after anyone who uses our western style freedom of speech to criticise islam. The only answer is to shut the Muslim barbarians, the enemy of all our freedoms, out of our countries. Whatever problems Hungary might have, and those other sensible Visegrad bloc countries might have, they won’t have to put up with this sort of evil garbage from the barbaric members of islam. If you have Muslims in your country, then this is the sort of evil shit you always have to put up with. Civilised life and islam do not get along at all. They never have and they never will.
Infidel says
So has Hadi Matar received the bounty promised some 30 years ago by Ayatollah Khomenei, and has that bounty been adjusted for inflation? He should be able to afford a great pad anywhere in Jersey state
JHL says
Putrid Islam and its vulgar violence. Sanctioned by the Assatollah Khomenei. Yet, people and governments ignore the imminent threat