Tlaib is lying that there is apartheid in Israel but she is right that the two-state “solution” is no solution at all. A “Palestinian” state would simply be a new jihad base for renewed efforts to destroy Israel. What she wants, however, is one “Palestinian” state, which would involve the total destruction of Israel and the deaths of countless millions of Jews.
“Rep. Rashida Tlaib: Israel has apartheid system, two-state solution won’t work,” JNS, September 19, 2022:
…According to a translation by the Middle East Media Research Institute, Tlaib said she disagrees with the left-wing lobby J Street because it “wants a two-state solution, and I always say that it is up to the Israelis and the Palestinians to decide what their fate and determination is, and they are more moving towards a one-state [solution].”
“They agree that I have a unique lens and perspective on what is happening in Palestine,” she added of J Street. “We have a good working relationship, but they know that I don’t believe there is a pathway—I mean, somebody can show me how—but I don’t believe there is a pathway for a two-state [solution] with the apartheid system that is happening in Israel right now.”
Tlaib continued, “We need to change our policies when it comes to the State of Israel. We desperately need to look at it [through] a different lens….
Infidel says
Actually, Apartheid would be the perfect system for muslims to live in any non-muslim country. Yeah, we have bad memories of South Africa (although one can argue that Cyril Ramaposa is far worse than Pieter Botha ever was), but this idea of 2 segregated populations in one country is a perfect way to ensure that muslims don’t:
‣ Encroach on non-muslim areas and then claim that as waqf property, like they’re doing in India
‣ Accost non-muslim girls and women and traffic in them, like they’ve done in both England and India
So while Israel may not be an apartheid state, it would be better if it actually was. Same goes for countries like Britain, India, France, Sweden and every other country that has a substantial muslim population
gravenimage says
These countries just need to strongly enforce their laws. No one should be able to wage violent Jihad or impose Shari’ah law–Muslim or Infidel.
Fitna says
Agreed Graven, they should also declare Islam to be a seditious ideology because it calls for the overthrow of infidel gov’ts and have it banned, make it illegal to be a Muslim, like being a Nazis.
This problem can be solved with the laws on the books already.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Fitna.
Fitna says
+1
Infidel says
Like they are doing now?
Fitna says
No don’t live with these evil people at all. They’ve taken over 57 Islamic nations, they can pick any one of them to live in and leave us the F alone.
We just have to make sure they never get their hands on nukes since they will either threaten us or use them.
Better yet, if the world can wake up we can end this death cult one and for all so that no child ever has to grow up and be killed for not wearing a hijab or raped for showing too much skin.
We just have to accept Islam was a bad idea 1400 years ago, it still is today and belongs in the dustbin of history.
milo minderbinder says
There isn’t a two-state solution. There have never been two states.
The current land of Israel, is but a fraction of the land that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob granted to the Jewish people.
Biblical Boundaries of the Land of Israel
https://theisraelbible.com/biblical-boundaries-land-israel/
“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” Genesis 12:3 (KJV)
I like the way this verse is translated in the New Living Translation.
“I will bless those who bless you and curse those who treat you with contempt. All the families on earth will be blessed through you.” Genesis 12:3 (NLT)
William (Bill) Koenig, now retired, served as a White House Correspondent for approximately 22 years. He outlines in his book, Eye to Eye, what happens to nations that “treat the nation of Israel with contempt.” Nothing good.
This is a spiritual battle, and it will only be resolved with the return of Yeshua Ha’Mashiach when he sets up His millennial reign.
somehistory says
I worked for a woman who owned a nursery…her hothouse was that…hot and steamy…and I planted some flower shoots in cans. She didn’t tell me exactly how she wanted it done, and after I had worked two or three days, she told me. I hadn’t done it exactly her way, but I had done too many for her to want to pay me for redo. She told me that the ones I had done “wrong’ would not sprout.
Otherwise, she was nice to me. The shoots all sprouted and she told me that “God has blessed me because I’m good to you.”
I guess she had read her Bible and looked at me as like Abraham. I thought that was nice.
And just recently, I found out that a tiny bit of my genes are from the Jews.
gravenimage says
Somehistory wrote:
And just recently, I found out that a tiny bit of my genes are from the Jews.
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Somehistory, I found out the same, when my brother took a DNA test. Turns out we are 23% Ashkenazi Jewish–we are still not even sure which side of the family this comes from, but it is very interesting.
somehistory says
It’s a small world, g.
John ..Smith says
My daughters husband is into all that genetic ancestry stuff, and last Xmas they bought me a testing kit. Anyway I sent it off and it turns out that I am mostly British with a little bit of German and French in me. My wife had a good laugh when it stated that I had far more Neanderthal genes in me than the average person.
Believe you me, I don’t get to hear the end of it.
somehistory says
John, I’m part German and French. Not sure about that other neander stuff. I knew a person who had the definite brow of one, though.
I’m waiting to hear someone say they descended from “Piltdown man.”
James Lincoln says
gravenimage says,
“…I found out the same, when my brother took a DNA test. Turns out we are 23% Ashkenazi Jewish”
At least partially explains your high intelligence…
John ..Smith says
Somehistory nobody was more surprised than myself when I read that, I don’t have a heavy brow and I’m neither short, stocky or hairy. So I’m glad to say I certainly don’t look like one. Infact I’ve always been lean ( not skinny) strong and athletical.
somehistory says
John, the science of man is not perfect; the test could have been flawed. My guess…it was.
John ..Smith says
Somehistory you may also have neanderthal genes in you. I believe you have red hair don’t you? Did you know genealogists have traced red hair back to neanderthals, so we may be relatives.
somehistory says
Red hair? Really? Red hair is the rarest color for humans. i do feel stupid sometimes, so perhaps I am part neanderthal.
Would that make us cousins? I had a music teacher back in high school who said that everyone with the same last name is at least sixth cousin. I don’t know where he got his info. He was kind of snobbish, so I didn’t ask. It was music we were supposed to be learning, anyway.
I have found, over the years, that everyone I have seen/met with my last name, has one certain physical feature. It isn’t the brow line, tho. So, that teacher may have been correct.
gravenimage says
Somehistory and John, we are English, French, German, part Scandinavian, part unspecified northern European–all expected–and then part Jewish.
John, I love that about being part Neanderthal–I actually imagine that this is true for a lot of us.
And thank you for the compliment!
John ..Smith says
Gravenimage, most Europeans have between 1 and 2 percent neanderthal genes, whereas people from Africa have zero.
milo minderbinder says
Gravenimage, James, John & somehistory,
Interesting conversation about the DNA search for one’s ancestry.
China is collecting the world’s DNA and the reason is sinister: Gordon Chang
https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-collecting-worlds-dna-sinister
And this article.
Bone marrow recipient’s DNA partly changed after procedure; what are the implications for law enforcement?
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/dna-of-bone-marrow-recipient-partly-changed-after-the-procedure-with-implications-for-law-enforcement/
somehistory says
I feel it’s kind of dangerous for one to have their dna analyzed. I would never have done it, but the relative did and told me.
And LE is using those data bases to find the perps in cold cases. not a bad thing, but china’s desire for it is really evil.
gravenimage says
Milo, I’m not saying that DNA testing can’t be done for sinister reasons, or that obsession with genetic heritage has not sometimes been very disturbing–just look at the history of eugenics.
But my brother just used a 23&Me test he got for Christmas from his wife.
John ..Smith says
Milo In a way I do regret giving my DNA, they will always have tabs on my off spring, not that we are criminals, I just don’t believe it was a good idea.
milo minderbinder says
John ..Smith,
Thank you for the comment.
I wouldn’t be too concerned about the DNA tests and the comments made by Gordon Chang. Why? The bad guys, including the Government of the United States of America, will get that information anyway. Anyone who has had a blood test or tests, that information can and, probably is being accessed on a routine basis for nefarious purposes.
As to the Neanderthal, as described in Britannica, well… I politely beg to differ.
“Neanderthal, (Homo neanderthalensis, Homo sapiens neanderthalensis), also spelled Neandertal, member of a group of archaic humans who emerged at least 200,000 years ago during the Pleistocene Epoch (about 2.6 million to 11,700 years ago) and were replaced or assimilated by early modern human.”
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Neanderthal
That doesn’t fit the narrative found in the Bible, Genesis 2:7-8 and Genesis 2:15.
“And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.” Genesis 2:7-8 (KJV)
“And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.” Genesis 2:15 (KJV)
Man did not evolve, he was created from the beginning as a rational being, one who communed with the God of the Bible on a daily basis. Man, from the beginning was given work to do, he was to maintain the Garden of Eden. Sadly, Adam and Eve disobeyed the God of the Bible and, look at the mess we’re in now.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
milo minderbinder says
gravenimage says
Sep 24, 2022 at 8:52 pm
Milo, I’m not saying that DNA testing can’t be done for sinister reasons, or that obsession with genetic heritage has not sometimes been very disturbing–just look at the history of eugenics.
But my brother just used a 23&Me test he got for Christmas from his wife.
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Gravenimage,
I posted the articles for information purposes only. They seemed pertinent to the conversation.
As I mentioned in my reply to John ..Smith:
“I wouldn’t be too concerned about the DNA tests and the comments made by Gordon Chang. Why? The bad guys, including the Government of the United States of America, will get that information anyway. Anyone who has had a blood test or tests, that information can and, probably is being accessed on a routine basis for nefarious purposes.”
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge.” Hosea 4:6
John ..Smith says
Thanks for the reply Milo, and the additional information.
somehistory says
agreed. Man was directly created by God and only changes as he is affected by his surroundings. We are further from perfection with each passing day, with each generation, but we are all still basically the same as when first Adam had the breath of life given him.
gravenimage says
Jordan is the Muslim state–more than half–from the British Mandate.
milo minderbinder says
gravenimage says
Sep 24, 2022 at 12:17 am
Jordan is the Muslim state–more than half–from the British Mandate.
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True.
However, that was the result of man arbitrarily dividing the land that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob gave to the Jewish people, (Genesis 15:18-20, Exodus 34) or more accurately, allowed them to occupy. The land isn’t theirs to divide, it belongs to the God of the Bible.
The partition, creating Jordan, didn’t work, it failed, and will continue to fail. There won’t be any permanent man-made solution to this problem.
In my opinion, Islam is from the pit of hell, it is pure evil. The events that are happening on a worldwide basis, are being orchestrated by Satan himself, especially in the Middle East. Islam will never, ever, accept anything less than the total annihilation of the Jewish people, and the complete takeover of that tiny sliver of land known as Israel.
gravenimage says
I agree, Milo–I just meant that Muslims saying there is no Muslim state from the British Mandate is a lie.
milo minderbinder says
gravenimage says,
Sep 24, 2022 at 8:53 pm
I agree, Milo–I just meant that Muslims saying there is no Muslim state from the British Mandate is a lie.
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graveninmage,
I thought so. However, there was a sliver of doubt that I wanted to clear up. As usual, your comments are insightful and informative.
somehistory says
This obnoxious lying loudmouth has had disagreements in the last few days with fellow dems….nadler is not “progressive” enough for her because he supports Israel and he didn’t like what she had to say; the former dnc chair, debbie wasserman-schults, doesn’t like tlaib’s antisemitism; and one other whose name escapes me had a disagreement with tlaib.
Hopefully, she’ll be out on her ear soon..
There is only one “pathway” that mozlums would accept and that is for Israel…and all Jews everywhere…to be eliminated from life.
gravenimage says
I hope Tlaib is out soon. She’s a nasty piece of work.
Walter Sieruk says
That Muslim politician, Rashida Tlaib is so very anti-Jewish and so spitefully against the Jewish State of Israel that she is in totally in essences un-American. As the late US President, William Howard Taft, wisely, declared in a speech that “Anti-Semitism is a noxious weed that should be cut out it has no place in America”
gravenimage says
Tlaib: No ‘pathway for a two-state [solution] with the apartheid system that is happening in Israel’
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There is no apartheid in Israel–but even if there *were* this would not necessarily be an obstacle to setting up a “Palestinian” state (in addition to Jordan, of course). But what Tlaib *really* means is that “Palestinians” seek the full destruction of Israel. This is true–both Fatah and Hamas have this in their constitutions.
More:
“They agree that I have a unique lens and perspective on what is happening in Palestine”
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Not really–Tlaib sounds like every other Muslim thug who wants to see Israel destroyed.
More:
Tlaib continued, “We need to change our policies when it comes to the State of Israel. We desperately need to look at it [through] a different lens….
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That would be the “lens” of Jihad terror.
Scotsman48 says
Somebody needs to teach this butt ugly loud mouthed ”female” a History lesson about the region she is screaming about so she can learn which people were around that area long before her guru, the muhamad dude, may piss be upon him, and how his fallen angel in a cave taught him to kill, behead, and destroy all that is not of his Cult as islam is a Fascist Religious Cult and she is one of its spokes… ”persons”… The fact she is in Congress shows me that America is falling, or on the way to being so, unless she is gone baby gone..
abobinmn says
Tlaib the Islamic terrorist is one butt ugly creature
Walter Sieruk says
That Muslim politician,Rashida Tlaib, with her hate -filled Islamic malice towards the Jewish people as well as her jihad-minded hostility for the State of Israel is a strong reminder of the wisdom spoken by the former US President ,William Howard Taft, who in a speech declared ” Anti-semitism is a noxious weed that should be cut out. It has no place in America.”
That grand statement also reveals how Tlaib is ,in essence, very un -American in the light of those words of President Taft. For in another Presidential speech, this time given by Theodore Roosevelt ,who ,rightly ,proclaimed “There can be no fifty- fifty Americanism in this country . There is room here for only one hundred percent Americanism , only for those who are Americans and nothing else.”
Therefore there should be no room for Tlaib to hold any political/ governmental position , at all in the United States . Tlaib should be impeached and removed from office , or at least voted out of office.