“They know who these people are. They’re choosing not to make arrests.”
Last month, The Mother and Unborn Baby Care Center, a pregnancy center in Southfield, Michigan, was vandalized causing thousands of dollars in damages. Graffiti left behind reading, “If abortion isn’t safe neither are you, Jane” linked the attack to Jane’s Revenge, a leftist pro-abortion domestic terrorist group that is believed to be responsible for as many as 50 attacks on pregnancy centers and pro-life groups.
Southfield police notified the FBI which refused to comment on the case.
After 18 attacks directly claimed by Jane’s Revenge over a period of six months, the FBI has made zero arrests. But while under Biden the feds have shown no interest in a national campaign of leftist terrorism, the FBI has been swift to come after abortion opponents.
The same month as the Southfield attack, an FBI team of 25 armed agents pounded on the door of of an anti-abortion activist in Pennsylvania who had been accused of shoving a Planned Parenthood escort. A nationwide campaign of domestic terrorism didn’t trigger a single arrest, but a shove brought heavily armed men in over a dozen vehicles to a suburban home.
The FBI has claimed that “the number of personnel and vehicles widely reported as being on scene Friday is an overstatement” and that its tactics were “professional”. The actual professional tactic would have been to ask the gentleman in question to turn himself in.
But under Biden and Garland, the DOJ has engaged in a campaign of political intimidation.
Biden’s DOJ put out a statement about the incident by his nominee, Jacqueline C. Romero, who was touted as the “first woman of color and first LGBTQIA+ person to become U.S. attorney.”
“Violating the FACE Act by committing a physical assault is a serious crime for which the FBI will work to hold offenders accountable,” Jacqueline Maguire, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Philadelphia Division, who had been featured in Women’s History Month, warned.
The FACE Act, introduced by Senator Ted Kennedy, who had killed a woman some said may have been carrying his child in the first known example of a senatorial underwater abortion, means that the FBI will come pounding on doors over a shoving incident at an abortion clinic, but pregnancy centers can be torched across the country without a word.
On paper, the FACE Act also protects pregnancy centers, but the extremely differing enforcement standards by Biden’s DOJ and the FBI make it all too clear that it does not.
Also in September, Christopher Moscinski, a Franciscan friar, who was already serving time on state charges for “occupying” the waiting room of a New York abortion clinic, was hit with FACE federal charges by the Biden administration for padllocking the gates of an abortion clinic and then laying “his body in front of the gate, blocking vehicles from entering the health center’s parking lot”. Environmentalist protesters routinely lie down in the street to block traffic. No one sends in the feds after them. They occupy government buildings and they don’t go to prison.
Moscinski’s actions were illegal, but leftist protesters routinely engage in the same kind of behavior, locking and blocking entrances and call it civil disobedience. There are few consequences if any for this behavior. And no pro-abortion protesters rallying outside pregnancy centers have faced FACE Act charges, let alone aggressive FBI aids on their homes.
But Biden’s DOJ keeps using the FACE Act to target pro-life protesters outside abortion clinics while issuing pro-abortion political statements that make its political agenda clear.
Philip Sellinger, another Biden nominee and a leading Democrat fundraiser, celebrated a FACE Act campaign against a street evangelist by declaring, “Access to reproductive healthcare is a fundamental right… Individuals must be able to access facilities like the Englewood clinic to make decisions about their own bodies.” That was not a legal statement by a US Attorney, but a political statement by an aspiring Democrat politician abusing federal law enforcement authority.
But Sellinger was just echoing Biden’s Attorney General Merrick Garland, who had responded to the Supreme Court’s Dobbs ruling by attacking the court for having “eliminated an established right that has been an essential component of women’s liberty for half a century” and announcing that the DOJ “strongly disagrees with the Court’s decision”.
Garland went even further in his insurrection against the Constitution and the Supreme Court by warning that he would employ the FACE Act to “protect healthcare providers and individuals seeking reproductive health services in states where those services remain legal”.
Biden’s own Beria clearly meant only one kind of service. The kind that ends a child’s life.
The DOJ’s Reproductive Rights Task Force has weaponized the FACE Act under Vanita Gupta, a leftist veteran of the ACLU and the NAACP, and racked up charges against anti-abortion protesters. Since the attacks on pregnancy centers are being investigated under FACE Act violations, it is quite likely that they’re being routed to the DOJ’s Abortion Task Force.
And the Abortion Task Force’s response would be to cheer on Jane’s Revenge.
The lack of trust has become so severe that Reverend James Harden, the head of a pregnancy center in New York, has filed suit against the FBI to return surveillance footage from the attack. The FBI took the footage, but has refused to share it with CompassCare: the victimized clinic.
According to Harden, the video shows license plates and other identifying footage. And yet after over 100 days, the FBI has made no arrests and refuses to turn over the video.
“They know who these people are. They’re choosing not to make arrests,” Harden charged.
Meanwhile, local authorities claimed to be worried that releasing the video would play into the hands of right-wing “nut jobs out there with guns and AK-47s, bombing and killing people.”
Late last month, the FBI canceled a visit meant to look into the firebombing of the clinic.
Even while leftist pro-abortion terrorists continue vandalizing and firebombing pregnancy centers, Democrat politicians at the federal and state level have targeted those same centers with legislation meant to shut them down in an effort to achieve the same terroristic goals.
In Los Angeles, Democrats are trying to impose a $10,000 fine for anyone who claims to have been misled into thinking that pregnancy centers also provide baby-terminating services. A similar attempt in California had already been struck down by the Supreme Court years ago.
Senator Elizabeth Warren introduced the Stop Anti-Abortion Disinformation Act which tries to use the FTC to target pregnancy centers. Senator Mark Warner and House Democrats demanded that Google go even further in censoring pregnancy centers from its search results.
Jane’s Revenge, or whichever combination of activists are operating under that name, is just the direct action arm of a leftist movement that is coordinating a campaign against pro-life groups. And the Biden administration is using its control over the DOJ and the FBI to implement it, ignoring violence by its political allies while ruthlessly going after acts of civil disobedience.
Under Merrick Garland, the DOJ has become the enforcement arm of the Left. Justice can only return to the Department of Justice when Garland and the other cronies have left the building.
gravenimage says
The FBI’s Double Standard on Abortion
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This is appalling. These fire bombings, damage, and death threats should be taken seriously regardless of the politics involved.
bill carr says
Abortion has always been a contentious issue and was made much worse by the disastrouSCOYUS decisions. Peaceful protest is acceptable, violence never. Women have been ending unwanted pregnancies since time immemorail, it is not the states’ or anybody else’s business to intervene. It is evidence of the hypocrisy of the ‘pro life’ people that they are willing to murder to end abortion.
bill carr says
Sorry missed the tup SCOTUS of course
Scotsman48 says
I havent seen or heard of any ”pro life” people willing to murder to end abortion…
Have you stopped taking your Medication again?.
Fitna says
Ofc breaking the law should always be condemned but as Sam Harris pointed out, all we have is conversation or violence, so we need to resolve our differences through conversation, to avoid the use of force.
However, if you slap someone, why are you shocked and surprised if they slap you back? If you strip away women’s rights to a safe abortion, why are you surprised that people are attacking “pro-life” clinics?
What did you think was going to happen, they’d gracefully suffer their fate of raising an unwanted baby for 20-30 years? Or risk their life and limb going through a pregnancy that could cause lifelong problems or even kill them (and give it up for adoption)? Or return to back-alley abortions?
You are also denying people their freedom and autonomy over their own body which is no one’s business but their own and their doctor’s.
The trouble is that some people teach their kids some insane ideas that were taught to them, when they should be teaching their kids to discuss, debate, listen to others and try to reach an understanding or compromise with others, or to admit when they’re wrong.
Over 70% of the US population (including many Conservatives) support keeping abortion legal. That 30% minority needs to do some research and figure out why abortion is supported by the vast majority of people, rather than mindlessly fight against what most people consider acceptable and reasonable.
Some people read an ancient mythology book written by Bronze Age goat-herders and now think those are the best ideas for all of humanity for all time, whether they like it or not. They think it came from some magic sky daddy, even though their God has committed genocides and instructed his followers to bash the babies of their enemies against the rocks.
Psalms 137:8-9 “O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us-he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.”
I don’t know where Christians got the crazy idea that their god cares about the “unborn” when plenty of Bible verses also prove he doesn’t give a damn about babies…but that’s the trouble with religion. Someone takes a verse out of context and runs with it creating trouble for their fellow citizens and non-believers.
And by the way shouldn’t that God come down from his magic palace and tell us directly what we should and shouldn’t do, rather than “call it in” by people who claim to know “his word?” Why don’t the words man-made ‘hoax/scam’ not light up in people’s minds when they hear these loony ideas?
I know some Christians use the defense/dodge that all the (supreme court) judges did was punt it to the states…but many Conservative states immediately banned abortions once they had the authority to do so…forcing desperate girls/women/rape victims to seek an abortion elsewhere.
They should’ve enshrined abortion into law so we wouldn’t have this ongoing train-wreck but then I wouldn’t be surprised if the “parties of god” would be pushing to overturn those laws, rather than to take a moment and ask themselves if they are not on the wrong side of this debate this whole time?
Naahh, that requires thinking and listening…they can’t be bothered when their magic book of fables has given them all the answers, like the Quran did for Muslims and look how beautifully that worked out in the Muslim world.
Scotsman48 says
Maybe it would be best if women learned about all the SAFE ways to avoid getting pregnant in the first place or would that be a cause of too much thinking?.
Fitna says
Scotsman,
Oh the irony, he’s telling women “to think” while refusing to think about the reason abortion is needed.
Here’s a crazy idea, imagine if religious people kept their beliefs to themselves and respected other people’s beliefs, you know so we can all live in peace with one another?
But that would require thinking too, maybe I’m asking for too much.
James Lincoln says
fitna,
A hot button topic – to be sure.
As you know, the Supreme Court – reversing a previous decision – has now decided that there is actually NO U.S. Constitutional right to an abortion.
The US Supreme Court should not be concerned with whether or not individual citizens like / do not like their decision. Their decision should be based only upon whether or not an issue is / is not compatible with the U.S. Constitution,
And, as you pointed out, the Dobbs decision did not take away the authority of individual states to regulate abortion.
Some states will now take a more conservative approach, other states an even more liberal approach – depending upon the views of the people / elected representatives in their respective states.
Fitna says
Hi James, agreed it definitely is a hot button issue.
Actually the Constitution does protect the right to an abortion implicitly, read below:
“Constitutional Protection for the Right to Abortion: From Roe to Casey to Whole Woman’s Health
In its landmark ruling in Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), the Supreme Court recognized that the right to abortion is a fundamental liberty protected by the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.
Since Roe the Court has repeatedly reaffirmed the Constitution’s protection for this essential liberty, which guarantees each individual the right to make personal decisions about family and childbearing.”
There’s more but I won’t post the whole link, people can read for themselves:
https://www.reproductiverights.org/sites/crr.civicactions.net/files/documents/factsheets/Constitutional-Protection-for-the-Right-to-Abortion-Fact-Sheet2.pdf
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Denying women a right to an abortion is contravening their liberty. Freedom isn’t a Red or Blue state issue, it’s fundamental right for all Americans.
If a piece of paper makes a huge difference to some people they can easily create laws and add an amendment to the US Constitution to keep abortion legal.
Sadly this is the type of issue that can end good relationships if people are on opposing sides, there is definitely a right and wrong answer here, but the people who are wrong, don’t want to accept the science on this topic…so the bickering needlessly continues.
James Lincoln says
Fitna,
Thank you for your reply. I did read your reference (thanks) but I believe that it is “pre-Dobbs”.
I’m a physician – definitely not a constitutional law attorney – just trying to interpret what’s out there Re: SCOTUS rulings. From Wikipedia (which leans Left on political issues):
“Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization is a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court held that the Constitution of the United States does not confer a right to abortion. The court’s decision overruled both Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), giving individual states the full power to regulate any aspect of abortion not preempted by federal law.”
If my reference is wrong, please let me know with citations.
P.S. I’m not trying to be purposely contentious – just trying to use factual evidence-based in my thinking.
Best wishes.
somehistory says
The doj is no longer the ‘department of justice.” If it ever truly was, it is no longer.
In the recent news, parents are murdering their babies, their little kids.
One *father* poured boiling water down his infant’s throat.
a *mother and father* starved their 19 day old baby to death…having dug a grave for him in their back yard days before he was found dead…with meth in his blood, broken bones and blunt force trauma to his skull.
A *mother* left her seven year old disabled child at home while she went out to party. The child died.
a *mother* and *father* starved, beat, and tortured their eight year old son to death.
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A toddler is missing ..not seen for about five days…and his baby sitter says his mother may have been abusing him.. as he frequently had bruises which she had tried to report, besides some other mistreatment.
Some ghouls are just in more of a hurry to rid themselves of their children, so they insist that they have the *right* to hire a hitman to *terminate* the baby.
In the Constitution, it attributes *rights*…to Life, liberty and pursuit of happiness…as gifts from our Creator. Who created all of us *equal.* The ghouls want to force all to accept their idea that these “rights” come from men and that fifty years ago, the *right* to murder an unborn baby was granted by men.
It was never a *right* and it never will be.
But, some ghouls are not having a hitghoul *terminate* their child’s life. they are just doing it themselves…at a few days, a year, toddler age, young children…and one couple starved their disabled adult daughter to death…while she sat unable to move for more than a year, basically glued with her own wastes to the family couch.
It won’t be long before these ghoulish crimes are not prosecuted.
However, there will be Justice.
Fitna says
“One *father* poured boiling water down his infant’s throat…
a *mother and father* starved their 19 day old baby to death”
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Evil and disgusting right Somehistory? Isn’t that one of best arguments for abortion? If you deny some evil parents the right to terminate a pregnancy, why are we surprised these cruel/sadistic things happen?
It’s also an excellent argument for checking all people to make sure they’re mentally fit to have/raise kids.
Also 99% of abortions happen in the 1st trimester, when the “baby” is just a tiny clump of cells.
So no babies are being killed at all in any abortion, that’s the biggest lie being circulated in the so-called pro-life community.
By the way, why do pro-lifers care nothing about the life of the mother? She is having to birth and raise the child. I’m assuming you’re a woman, so you should be even more on the pro-Choice than myself.
What “Creator” SH? Has one ever appeared or have we humans invented this silly idea in a pre-scientific age when we didn’t know anything about our universe? I’ve never seen one, so it has no bearing on anything.
Your God has slaughtered billions of people in one of his angry moods without a thought, is that someone who has any care about human life? Christians invented these silly ideas-if there was a god, I’m quite sure he’d have nothing to do with any religion existing today.
somehistory says
You can disagree, Fitna. but you won’t change my mind and heart. No argument will ever do that. and neither will any human attempting to bring *charges* against my God with supposed crimes He committed.
The One giving life is the only One with the Right to take it.
so, you may as well spend your time and your arguments elsewhere.
CogitoErgoSum says
Aside from cases of rape, isn’t having sex making a choice of what to do with your body? Voluntarily having sex is a choice. If a person does not want to risk the chance of reproducing another human being, then don’t engage in the act of sexual reproduction. What is so hard to understand about that?
Fitna says
CES,
If you don’t want to have a car accident, don’t drive. If you don’t want to die at your job, then don’t work, if you don’t want to drown, don’t swim, etc.
Why is it so hard to understand people enjoy sex and they will never stop so long as humans exist?
Why is it so hard to understand that it is possible to prevent pregnancy using contraceptives, but they don’t always work?
Why is it so hard to understand that people need abortion when contraceptives fail, or if someone is raped. Speaking of which it seems you agree in the case of rape. Why did you make a special condition but you won’t allow it for others reasons? It’s an arbitrary rule too, isn’t it?
I think some people, who don’t understand biology got this silly idea that pregnancy is magic/sacred and cannot be interfered with.
If there was a real God around, spouting off some dumb rules, fine we’d have no choice but to follow them. But guess what, there is no God, so you can relax.
All the rules were invented by primitive fools from 2000 years ago, who didn’t know how nature worked, but now we do. Now we can control our destiny and decide if we want to have kids or not. Something that most animals have no control over.
There is nothing special about reproduction. Often times abortion is a far better, kinder, gentler solution than allowing them to come into a terrible world that doesn’t want them.
You guys need to get out of your little echo-chamber, read some other ideas and maybe you’ll begin to understand why the vast majority of people are pro-Choice and want to keep it legal.
CogitoErgoSum says
The vast majority of human beings are lazy and selfish and sometimes I think too stupid to live in this world so they rely upon those who are have all the qualities they lack. Though you did not say it outright I deduce that you feel there are some people who should not reproduce themselves for the good of the world. Your answer appeals to the darker side of me and today I am feeling particularly dark. I am going to agree with you that some people should kill their own children in order to make the world a better place. The strongest and the smartest should inherit this Earth because the world that is coming will be one without mercy.
Fitna says
CES,
The vast majority also support Freedom, equality, rule of law, but because they’re lazy and stupid they must’ve gotten that wrong too, right?
But you raise a good point, if most people are as stupid as you say, then they must do the research on this subject. Listen to both sides, consider the viewpoint of science, the medical field/professionals, etc.
If abortion really was “evil” then why do doctors fully support and risk their lives to help women get abortions?
Sure I’ll grant you that, the world would be better off if evil/bad people stopped having kids. However I simply support abortion across the board for anyone who wants it for any reason at all.
As I mentioned to SH, you’ll find all the arguments made by pro-lifers, has already been debunked, it’s just that they don’t want to listen or imagine they could be on the wrong side of the argument.
For example the false claim that babies are being killed, in fact 99% of abortions occur in the first trimester when the “baby” is just a handful of cells, no brain, no heart, legs, etc…just a fertilized egg. Nobody is being hurt or killed in the process.
For rational, smart people the argument would end right there. For retards who don’t accept the science and think the best ideas come from Bronze Age goat-herders, they continue to think a clump of cells is the same as a fully developed 9 month baby.
That is a fallacy they don’t want to recognize so they rage against society like an 8 yr old child who doesn’t understand how the world works and think they’re doing “the right thing” to please some magic man in the sky.
This argument could’ve been settled decades ago if we simply educated children on the science of biology and abortion.
I never made the argument people should kill their own children, and I differentiate that from a fetus which is not a child.
A child is fully developed and has a right to life, a fetus relies on the woman’s body for survival like a parasite and has no right to “personhood” until after its born.
Fitna says
I understand SH, you don’t want to give up that good feeling people get when they think they’re right, even if they’re completely, abysmally wrong.
You think you’re saving babies from those “evil little rape victims” that are too young to be mothers and didn’t ask for it. How dare they reject the gift of rape that Allah oops I mean your god Yahweh gave them.
Rather than consider opposing views, it’s simply easier to plug your ears and say “nana nana boo-boo” and keep pushing your beliefs on non-believers, because you and your fellow believers “know” you’re right and that’s all that matters.
You can easily Google your God’s genocides, did you already forget about the Great Flood? What about massacring Israel’s enemies? Your own Bible shows him to be a mass murderer and psychopath.
The One doesn’t just takes and gives life, He also sits back and does nothing while humans kill each other by the millions. He allows millions of innocent children to be raped and starved.
See if I could stop a rape I would, that makes me better and more moral than your God. Yet he’s great at helping you pass exams and find your car keys, interesting “plan” He has for us.
Yes ofc, you don’t want to be reminded that you are wrong in your position, so you’d rather not hear the opposing views. But thankfully freedom of speech still exists in most western nations and so long as it does, I’ll express my views whether you like it or not.
As for the “One” where is he? We non-believers have asked for evidence of your god for thousands of years and not once has he appeared to anyone except the mentally ill. So if you’re close to this fellow, tell him to pay me a visit please.
Spoiler-alert: you’ll never be able to because your god is not real, like Allah, Thor, Zeus, etc…all man-made nonsense. He’s just an imaginary friend for adults, like Santa Claus is for kids. Sad that none of you can see it.
Fitna says
And I forgot to add, it’s odd how you conflate actual baby-killers who torture/kill their infants/kids, with people who are simply having an abortion and have never tortured or killed anyone.
Pretty disingenuous tactic to smear people who advocate for and have abortions. It seems there is no depth you’d sink to, to spread lies and propaganda. That’s a reflection of your own dark character than the people you wish to demonize/slander.
This is much the way Muslims speak about Jews and other people they hate.
somehistory says
I have never done any harm to you, so I have to wonder why do you attack me so viciously?
You equate my faith with the sordid likes of mozlums. I thought you said before we all need to stand together to fight them off. Now, it doesn’t seem as if you recall writing that. It appears to me that
You just wish to stand with baby killers as long as the baby’s have not been born. or maybe even those who murder the little ones who have been allowed to live outside for a limited time. After all, you have said that life is not sacred.
Why then not just give in and stick out your neck for a mozlum whacking?
so, this is my ending of the conversation. I’ll not reply again.
Fitna says
“I have never done any harm to you, so I have to wonder why do you attack me so viciously?”
Wow, I spoke very respectfully to you because I hoped that you can be reasoned with and I was countering your arguments not attacking you, but go ahead and play the fake victim, it’s a common, sad tactic I’ve seen used often by theists after they insult and attack others.
However when you falsely accused pro-abortionists of being on the same level as psychopaths who torture their kids to death, then I pointed out why you were wrong and it’s a reflection of your own dark nature.
It’s laughable you’d call that ‘vicious’….when it’s a pretty benign push-back. Yet you seem to think it’s ok to call well educated, rational, adults “baby-killers” and supporters of “baby killers.”
Who’s actually being vicious and unhinged? Then you go on to say I can go somewhere else since you don’t agree with me. Then you speak about standing together against Islam, remind me who’s creating the divisions here?
“You equate my faith with the sordid likes of mozlums. I thought you said before we all need to stand together to fight them off. Now, it doesn’t seem as if you recall writing that.”
Muslims say all kinds of terrible things about Jews, gays but also the rest of us. You just called pro-Choicers baby-killers.
Both are false, hateful, vicious slanders against us, why are you playing innocent now? Be honest if you could throw us in concentration camps you would, as your next statement below shows (wacking by a Muslim).
It appears to me that You just wish to stand with baby killers as long as the baby’s have not been born. or maybe even those who murder the little ones who have been allowed to live outside for a limited time. After all, you have said that life is not sacred.
There you go, you just proved my point, once again lying about people who are pro-Choice, falsely and maliciously accusing them of being baby-killers which they’re not, then you pretend to be innocent.
You’ve also misrepresented the abortion field, it’s quite obvious you know nothing about it. All you know is what you learned from your ancient fairy tale book. That’s fine run with it SomeHistory, but you are going against the vast majority.
I’m pretty sure in time they’ll make abortion legal again, this is not a long battle your side has any chance of winning. Esp. as more informed people join our side. One day you’ll all just be laughed at.
Why then not just give in and stick out your neck for a mozlum whacking?
Oh look what a sweet loving caring Christian telling me to go get killed by a Muslim. The true demon inside you is coming out.
What was that you said earlier?
“I have never done any harm to you”
And you just proved yourself a liar…wishing death on someone is harmful.
“so, this is my ending of the conversation. I’ll not reply again.”
I couldn’t care less. I’m willing to work with reasonable Christians who want to defeat Islam (and there are many decent ones here). But I will keep my distance from the crazy extremists like yourself.
Fitna says
Unfortunately the HTML codes failed…hopefully it’s readable enough for people. Next time I’ll also use brackets.
CogitoErgoSum says
Looks to me like the FBI is guilty of aiding and abetting others in the commission of a crime. Some of these officials at the FBI and the Justice Dept. need to be sent to prison. I hope the process will be put into motion as soon as possible after the upcoming elections.
wpm says
These pregnancy crisis centers do not kidnap women off the street against their will or force the women to go there if they question the reasons for them to get abortions .You can be on either side of the abortion augment and see these fire bombing as terrorism If someone was fire bombing abortion clinics it would also be wrong and be terrorism .If the FBI does not provide equal protection of the law to people providing services that are inside of the bounds of the law what good are they? So if I disagree with you on laws federal ,state, or local it is ok to threaten or use terror against you or an organization you belong to ,and the FBI will turn a blind eye to your activity because it sides with the current political majority that are in power now. What happens when someone comes after you and you are on the other side of the current power running the country who will protect your rights to disagree with the current government or current laws if you act in a peaceful, law abiding way against them ?
Fitna says
WPM,
Did you even read my post before diving into your strawman argument? I clearly stated nobody should be breaking any laws. Nowhere did I defend the FBI or the attack on any clinics. I stated that it’s understandable people would react this way because their rights are being trampled on.
The supreme court was packed with pro-Life Christians thanks to Trump who are ramming their beliefs down the throats of the vast majority of people that wanted to keep abortion legal. They blatantly lied and said they wouldn’t touch Roe, it was settled law but ofc once they got power, they quickly overturned it.
This is how fascists and tyrants behave and it becomes acceptable then to oppose them. Like I said I oppose violence and they should demonstrate peacefully, but I can understand why they would lash out against their enemies, because if people can’t resolve issues peacefully, then they only have violence to resort to. This is the mess that Christians/Pro-Lifers created. It’ll only escalate ofc if each side digs in their heels, possibly leading to civil war.
Imagine if Muslim judges were placed on the Supreme Court and they promised to uphold secular law, but ofc once they gained power they imposed Sharia Law on the whole nation, would you tolerate that for one minute? Well the identical position today with Christian judges.
While there are some religions that generally keep to themselves like Judaism, Hinduism and Sikhism. There are others like Islam and Christianity who think they have the right and duty to force their beliefs on non-believers and this is how religious wars happen…if believers kept their ideas to themselves, we wouldn’t have these problems.
wpm says
This above is directed at Fitna
somehistory says
Many atheists like to try to have it both ways.
The atheist says that God does not exist; that God is not our Creator; that God is not the Giver of Life nor can He do anything. Because if He could, He would.
the same atheist says that God just doesn’t care; that He has *killed billions* of people; that He allows people to go to war, to rape, to murder; that He could stop these if He wanted to, so He must not want to; that He has no authority to tell him, the atheist, what to do or not to do. and that He should do something to prove He is God, but refuses to consider that God already has proven it; and that if God had any power to do anything, the atheist would know it because God would have done the things the atheist thinks God would and should do.
Now, the atheist described, doesn’t want God to punish anyone by killing, but He wants God to stop wars, rapes and murders, famines, etc. while also not making any Laws that will keep him, the atheist, from doing as he pleases.
Now, not only does the atheist make decisions about what God should do or not, he sets his own morality. However, he does not allow any other person the same….esp Christians. the atheist described above, makes sure to tell any Christian when that one is wrong; wrong in even believing, but wrong to argue or apply the same standard of treatment received. The Christian just needs to stop being happy, and throw away their faith because the atheist says so.
those who argue that they have a *right* to abortion are arguing against any standard of true morality and they do not consider that life is sacred. If life is not sacred, and any person can “decide for themselves” what is right and what is wrong, then why should any person be prosecuted for taking the life of another?
those who favor saying a woman has a *right* to murder her child, usually bringing up fake arguments about *raped children*…it may happen, but it is not the real reason so many baby-killings happen…say the only reason they are prevented is due to Christians forcing their religion on others.
Well, if everyone gets to choose their own *morality,* these ones should be glad that Christians are not like mozlums…even if some people claim that Christians are no different because Christians believe in God; while the atheist does not.