We are on the edge of a brutal authoritarian system, but it’s quite clearly coming from the likes of Beschloss and his friends, not from those whom they relentlessly defame.
“Biden’s Favorite Historian Says GOP Victory in Midterms Means ‘Our Children Will Be Arrested and Conceivably Killed,’” by Anna Allen, Washington Free Beacon, November 4, 2022:
…On MSNBC’s All In With Chris Hayes, Beschloss, one of President Joe Biden’s favorite historians, echoed Biden’s rallying speech earlier Wednesday evening, claiming the most important issue on the ballot is Republicans’ threat to democracy, not inflation or other concerns. Numerous polls show that voters think otherwise. Beschloss is among many liberals trying to shift voters’ focus away from skyrocketing inflation and the rising crime rates in Democrat-led cities.
“A historian 50 years from now—if historians are allowed to write in this country and if there are still free publishing houses and a free press, which I’m not certain of,” [Michael] Beschloss said. “But if that is true, a historian will say, what was at stake tonight and this week was the fact whether we will be a democracy in the future, whether our children will be arrested and conceivably killed.”
Before introducing Beschloss, Hayes played a clip of Biden’s speech in which the president said electing MAGA Republicans is a “path to chaos,” a claim with which Hayes agreed.
“Whether we take that path to chaos, whether we continue to march down it, is one of the major choices—if not the major choice—voters face this coming Tuesday,” said Hayes….
“We could be six days away from losing our rule of law,” Beschloss said. “We’re on the edge of a brutal authoritarian system, and it could be a week away.”
Devasur says
Leftists use the same bogey in India. whoever they oppose needs to be supported bythe people.
milo minderbinder says
“We could be six days away from losing our rule of law,” Beschloss said. “We’re on the edge of a brutal authoritarian system, and it could be a week away.”
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Typical deflection and projection by the Marxist left. We aren’t days away from losing the rule of law, we lost the rule of law a long a long time ago, both in the USA, and around the world. It’s by design. Further, this Administration is the epitome of an “authoritarian system.” We aren’t weeks away from it, we’ve been in it since Biden was fraudulently installed as POTUS.
Rarely says
Is the World still flat?
It’s hard to believe so many believe the election was the result of widespread fraud without a shred of proof.
Wellington says
There are huge amounts of proof, Rarely. To begin with we have well over 1,000 affidavits signed upon penalty of perjury testifying to major fraud, especially in the five key swing states (N.B., not a single such affidavit was singed in the phony Russian collusion hoax story and yet yet Democrats and the MSM pushed this phony claim for years and which was based on the bogus Steele dossier paid for by the Clinton campaign!). Republican poll watchers were blocked from the polls in many places, for instance in Philadelphia. In Wisconsin 234,000 voters in that state were to be removed from the voter rolls because they had either moved out of state or had located to another place in Wisconsin and thus had to re-register. None of the 234,000 were removed. The only cities where Biden got more votes than Obama and Clinton were in the cities in the five key swing states—how convenient. John Lott has demonstrated that in certain counties (e.g., Fulton County, Georgia and Miami-Dade County, Florida) more votes were cast than there were registered voters. And why did the counting of votes in the five key swing states stop in the early morning hours of November 4th, only to pick up again a few hours later and with Biden then getting the vast majority of the votes? In Georgia in 2016 some 6% of absentee ballots were discarded but in 2020 when absentee ballots were almost infinitely more prevalent only some 2% were discarded and this approaches statistical impossibility.
And this is just a sampling of so much that should alert the built-in crap detector we were all born with—though many people let such detector get terribly rusty. In fact, the total tonnage of things gone wrong in the 2020 election is so voluminous that this very volume aids the Democrats because it is difficult to keep up with all that went askew. As for the American judiciary discarding all this, I am not n the least surprised because the American judiciary is pretty much a disgrace (there are exceptions) and filled with Leftists, incompetents and cowards. Your turn if you care.
James Lincoln says
You are correct, Wellington.
The 2020 US Presidential Election was stolen with massive evidence of classic organic fraud compounded with cyber fraud.
Some of the brightest computer cyber crime analysts on the planet have corroborated this repeatedly.
Anyone who denies that this has happened simply does not want to look at the evidence.
mg says
Without a shred??? Oh come now.
Those who demand that any ID ing of citizens is ‘racist’ and bigoted, and ‘anti democrat, and who destroy our border, to allow the flooding of the nation with others( but who wail when those small numbers are bussed to ‘sancturary’ cities, rather than flooding all the heartland states that will be forced to care for them. Those who demand mail in ballots with little regard for the proof of citizenship want to control elections. Now… which party calls this ‘democracy’ and tells everyone that it’s racist to want to disallow such? Hmmm..
Wellington says
Seconded. Rarely’s statement that there is not “a shred of proof” that the 2020 Presidential election was stolen is ridiculous on its face. Rarely has every right to contend what he has but he must also defend his comment about there being no shred of proof.
Again, Rarely, your turn. Waiting.
Rarely says
All very interesting arguments and allegations. However, more than 40 lawsuits that on these points were rejected by the courts. Presumably, former President Trump had excellent (certainly expensive) attorneys presenting these arguments (and others) to present them but without success.
Are you suggesting that these lawyers were incompetent or that all 40+ courts were biased and dishonest?
Wellington says
Yes, Rarely, courts aplenty in this nation are led by Leftists, incompetents and cowards, as I have already stated. And there is also the long-standing matter of the judiciary not wanting to interfere in “political matters.” Don’t put too much emphasis on courts. They are not the panacea it seems you think they are and I am stating this as the lawyer that I am.
You averred that such rejection by the courts is good enough for you (and no matter how good Trump’s lawyers have been). But this is something different from what you first stated yesterday and that is, your own words, not “a shred of proof.” My God, man, the proof is all over the place and thus this first statement by you is risible on its face. And now you have shifted to being an unreserved supporter of the judiciary. Which is it, Rarely? Your turn. At the very least, I do hope you no longer assert that there is no proof that the 2020 election was stolen. There is tons of proof. The only real question is how this voluminous proof of a stolen election has been handled—a very different matter.
Rarely says
Wellington.
What terrible luck to have landed in the courts of some forty odd “Leftists. incompetents and cowards” as judges. What are the odds?
If, as you say, the courts are full of these “Leftists, incompetents and cowards” what alternative do you suggest? Anarchy?
BTW. I’ve seen and experienced some incredible incompetence among the judiciary and some outright intellectual dishonesty, but I can think of no better alternative. I’m open to suggestions.
milo minderbinder says
Rarely says,
“Is the World still flat?”
That line is getting old, trying coming up with something new for a change.
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Rarely says,
It’s hard to believe so many believe the election was the result of widespread fraud without a shred of proof.
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That is a statement from ignorance, or maybe, simply drinking too much Kool-Aid?
Tell that to the folks at True the Vote – https://www.truethevote.org/ and Mike Lindell at Frank Speech – https://frankspeech.com/ who, unlike you, have “actually” taken the time to investigate the results of the 2020 election. They “can” and “have” produced hard evidence to verify that there WAS “massive” fraud in the 2020 election.
“You’re entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own facts.”
– Daniel Patrick Moynihan (1927-2003)
James Lincoln says
Milo,
You are correct.
And Mike Lindell knows more about the fraudulent 2020 US Presidential election than anyone on the planet.
His packet captures (showing the cyber attacks with the voting machines) have been corroborated by Jeff O’Donnell and Dennis Montgomery – two of the top cyber experts on the planet.
Rarely says
It’s been decided by the courts — over 40 times.
Good enough for me.
milo minderbinder says
Rarely says
Nov 7, 2022 at 3:51 pm
It’s been decided by the courts — over 40 times.
Good enough for me.
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Updated List of 2020 Election Fraud Cases Shows 87 Total Cases – Trump/ GOP Won 71% of Cases
https://republicbroadcasting.org/news/updated-list-of-2020-election-fraud-cases-shows-87-total-cases-trump-gop-won-71-of-cases/
mg says
And as you said… ‘that’s good enough for me’.
Fair enough. Legally that’s how we non progressives work- we have to follow the justice system even when it’s blind and deaf.
But that doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen, and that there won’t be cases finally brought thru the courts to show the other side of this meager corruption of the republic.
Good enough for you? Fair enough, no one will destroy you for what I can only note as short sighted. Unlike the vast ignorance of the progressive democratic party that brought vast stores of fentanyl to destroy our young, brought oil and energy dependence, to make our lives hard ( and who blamed it on the Russians ) who brought us millions of illegal migrants who they welcome with cell phones, legal aid, welfare benefits, to change the demographics of who regions of the nation- we, the non progressives will not burn down the cities, but we will work to educate, discuss and show what rational, morally based thinking is about…. and work for it. Unlike progressives who demand something entirely different…….
Wellington says
Classic projection by Lefties aplenty.
Rarely says
Just your usual academic. Ignore them and try to stifle your laughter.
In my view the far left and the far right are, for the most part, equally dangerous. In fact, they are surprisingly similar especially when it comes to espousing hatred and stupid rhetoric.
wpm says
The far left have been in control for over two years in this country ,the people running against them or questioning them are all label far right by the media the most democrats currently in power. Do billions of dollars of damage ,over 20 people killed in the summer of 2020 with black live matter marching rioting and burning in a mostly peaceful protest OK with major democratic leaders bailing them out of jail or elected democratic judge not pressing charges .On Jan. 6 no republican bail out rioters, only one person died that day the rioting lasted less the 2 hours ,all people involved went to jailed. The election was certified even with many voting irregulates .We had now two years of record inflation ,close to a world war ,all kinds of unrest with the democrats in power in all three branches of federal government and most major cities run by democrats facing a major crime wave and economic downward tailspin and the left still blames Trump and the republicans even though they are not in power.
somehistory says
Actually two people died…both innocent women who committed no crime. One was shot, by a male in uniform; the other was beaten to death by a woman in cop uniform. The woman beaten to death was not even inside the building, but on the steps outside.
James Lincoln says
Rarely,
The problem is the more recent definition of “far right”.
People just barely right of center – at least half of the US population – are now erroneously labeled “far right” by the left.
Wellington says
Damn salient point, James. Modern Leftism, which has overwhelmingly replaced old-fashion liberalism, considers all those who don’t agree with it as some kind of enemy. This is very much in keeping with the fact that Leftism is yet another intolerant and stupid totalitarian ideology—though still lethal to freedom and other good things.
And no better example in this regard than Dementia Joe who has stated many times that MAGA Republicans are a threat to the Constitution. No, they are not. MAGA Republicans love the Constitution and it is lesser people like Biden who, in full projection mode, continue to place blame upon others when it deserves to be placed upon turkeys like Biden the Incompetent.
And I wish Rarely would respond on this thread. He has made accusations which I maintain he cannot back up. If he has any spine he will respond.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
Thank you for your reply.
Apparently, Rarely cannot respond using factual evidence-based logic – with citations.
Rarely says
Wellington.
I have responded.
Nevertheless. Firstly, I do not agree with the vast majority of the left agenda. Neither do I agree with much of the right agenda. As a result, I am attacked from both ends. In most cases I am just throwing out something for discussion and am pretty openminded to arguments on both sides. However, on this website there seems to be only one side. Sometimes I’ll just play devil’s advocate.
You state “modern Leftism considers… all those who don’t agree with it as some kind of enemy”. Is that so different as the way people are treated on this website by the so-called “moderate” right? You ask if I have a spine? Not a very valid debating technique — just attempting to make a point by abuse and/or name calling. OK. You’re a jerk. I WIN!
Wellington says
Well, Rarely, at the very least, I hope you no longer state that there is no proof that the 2020 election was stolen. There is exponential amounts of proof said election was stolen and the very entities most prominently stating that the 2020 election was not stolen are the very ones—the Democratic Party, the MSM, academia, et al.—-who with ZERO proof that the 2016 Trump campaign colluded with Russia pushed this narrative for years and which was based on the phony Steele Dossier PAID FOR by the Clinton campaign.
Yes, it is possible to argue that the 2020 election was not stolen, but I hope you at least will admit that far more proof exists that it was stolen than that the 2016 Trump campaign colluded with Russia. You can admit to at least this, can you not?
somehistory says
A few days ago, in NYC, in daylight hours, a jogger was attacked, beaten and robbed. This happened in front of an art gallery. The gallery owner began begging people to “vote republican”…at least “just this once.” Because of the rising crime rates.
One report said that homicides were down, but rapes, assaults, robberies are all up. Kids are “being killed,” every day in chicago; and criminals who should be locked away in places like NY and CA, are allowed out on the street to commit more crimes.
One news item this morning was about a guy who argued with his girlfriend and then shot her, her mother, her sister and her nieces. One niece survived. Two other children hid from the shooter.
A former nypd cop, was found guilty of killing his eight-year old son by making him sleep in the unheated garage for 16 hours. The kid was beaten often, as was his older brother. Thet went to school hungry, and ate crumbs left by others.The abuse had been reported by school personnel, but nothing was done to protect the little boys.
People are killing kids every day. and many killers and rapists walk the streets because people such as this “historian” want to keep the status quo, while claiming they are doing a great job and only those opposed to all of the lawlessness are the whole problem.
Liars. Reminds me of satan telling Eve she could have it all better if she followed him. Follow biden bo, clinton, pelosi, soros and his district attorneys, aoc, i elmi, tlaib, etc. right off the cliff.
James Lincoln says
Yes somehistory.
They are liars.
gravenimage says
Leftist ‘historian’ claims that if Republicans win Tuesday, ‘we’re on the edge of a brutal authoritarian system’
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These insane claims are quite recent. Of course, every party has always suggested that things will be better if their candidates are elected. But claiming that their political opponents are fascists? This is something new–and ugly and false. The Democrats use this on a regular basis now. Chilling.