RICO should be applied to islam….it’s a “corrupt,” “protection racket” using .threats and intimidation, extortion….in other words,
” racketeering” (dishonest and fraudulent business dealings) and mozlums conspire…making it a “conspiracy” and they are certainly “organized” in this; which fits the definition of the Law;
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Law
Thank you, Mr. Spencer, for the full explanation of dawah and other terms mozlums use in their enforcement of their corrupt and evil belief system.
࿗Infidel࿘says
27:00 Most muslims are brown – that’s correct, given that there are about 0.6 billion muslims in the subcontinent, and another 0.4 billion in the East Indies. That’s easily more than half of all muslims
As a result, even if one considered Turks, Iranians and Arabs as ‘white’, that would hardly go far. And that ignores that the bulk of muslims in Africa – from Cairo to Mogadishu to Dakar to Tangiers – are not White at all!
However, as far as the number of ‘refugees’ in Western countries go, the majority of muslims may well be ‘white’
࿗Infidel࿘says
35:00 On the issue of ‘Love Jihad’, this is a term that was originally coined by a Kerala Christian priest, even though that term has subsequently come to be overused by Hindus. As Nupur J Sharma pointed out in a video, there are 5 types of this, which is why the term ‘Love JIhad’ is very inappropirate:
1. Hindu girl falls for a muslim, knowing that he’s muslim, and happily embracing islam to marry him. This is the original meaning of the term, and the only one where its use is appropriate
2. Hindu woman knowingly marries a muslim man w/ the understanding that she’ll be allowed to remain a Hindu and continue practicing her faith after marriage. However, after marriage, even if hubby keeps his end of the deal, other muslim relatives pile on the pressure on her to convert. Also, minimal contact is kept w/ her Hindu family, making the pressure more overbearing
3. Hindu girl falls for a muslim masquerading as a Hindu. Sometimes, he’s exposed in time before she’s deep into the relationship, sometimes he’s exposed way after marriage and kids
4. Hindu girl rejects the advances of a muslim openly trying to convince her to convert to islam and marry her. Usually, when the muslims are that brazen, they back it up w/ threats and force
5. Muslims who befriend Hindu girls make porn videos of them and then use those to blackmail them into doing what they demand – conversion and marriage
I think that the term ‘Muslim trafficking’ is much more appropriate, since it emphasizes that the criminal in all of these are muslim, and also, that these are all various forms of human trafficking. One thing that Hindu brides discover on entering their muslim in-law families is that their husbands are islamically allowed to pimp them around to other relatives – brothers, fathers, cousins, uncles… along the lines of Muhammad and Zainab. The thing Hindu – and other – women need to understand is that it’s not like any other conventional marriage where the woman is only expected to consummate w/ her husband: she’s essentially in a glorified brothel that masquerades as a family, and can be passed around to different men
And all of this not even counting the fact that those women have no rights to their kids, no separate adoption rights or any of that
Mateen Elasssays
Infidel,
I’m not familiar with where in Islamic law or in the example of Muhammad the pimping of wives is permitted or encouraged. Would you please point me in the direction of the appropriate source material? This is an important thing to know. Thanks.
gravenimagesays
Mateen, I of course cannot speak for Infidel. But I believe the reference to Zainab is to the “Prophet” Muhammed’s cousin Zainab (or Zaynab) bint Jahsh. Muhammed pressured her to marry his adopted son Zayd ibn Harithah, even though she resisted. Later he took a fancy to her himself and forced a divorce, and even dissolved the legality of adoption in Islam. Then he took Zainab for himself.
Then, there have been numerous cases of Muslims treating non-Muslim wives as sex slaves and passing them around to male relatives–there have been several such stories here (I’m sure Robert Spencer can cite some). I don’t believe that this is specifically laid out in Islamic law re wives, but certainly Infidel women can be used as sex slaves–Muhammed himself did this.
࿗Infidel࿘says
51:00 At a very basic level, ‘interfaith dialogs’ are worthless! Why does it need to exist at all? If someone is a Jew, let her observe kosher, go to the synagogue and live her daily life as one: why would she need any dialog w/ Christians about the validity, or the lack of it, of her faith? If someone is a Hindu and worships some Goddess, again leave him alone, and don’t ‘invite’ him to read a Bible or Quran or Torah or anything. One doesn’t have to believe in Goddess Durga, but there’s no reason to mock someone else who does! If one is a Christian, there is no reason to present him w/ a Torah, a Quran, a Vishnu Purana or a Dianetics book, or mock Jesus Christ. And so on
This is not even bringing in islam into the picture, where the ‘dialog’ is just a form of dawah
gravenimagesays
I have no real problem with “interfaith dialog” in most cases–it is more just interfaith friendliness in most cases. Not really needed in most cases, but just a nice thing, if a bit silly sometimes. As with so many other instances, Muslims take a generally harmless Western custom and essentially weaponize it.
Aumsays
Very helpful in understanding.
Infidel – thanks for explaining various types as detailed by Nupur Sharma.
࿗Infidel࿘says
You’re welcome
Walter Sieruksays
The current idea that some Christians are foolishly engaging in, of which Robert Spencer had brought up in this discussion is the folly of “Christian/ Muslim dialogue” in which the deluded false hope of some Christians have of attempting to find some grand similarities and common ground between Christianity and Islam is outright awful.
Such an idea on the part of Christians is in direct contrast to how the Bible instructs Christians to behave. For in Ephesians 5: 11 it reads “Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.” [N.K.J.V.]
For the imams and mullahs are all devout and committed practitioners of Islam are truly in the grip of the “works of darkness” meaning Islam, because in Isaiah 8:20 it reveals “To the law of the testimony ! If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”
In other words, if a religious cleric teachings doctrines that are in contradiction to what is already written in the scriptures, the Bible then that religious teacher about which religion is part of the world of spiritual darkness, demonic darkness.
Islam with its teachings contradicts the Bible.
For Islam denies that Jesus is the Son of God. Meaning that Jesus of the only Son of God the Father.
That is in blatant contradiction to the information revealed in the Bible.. As found, for example, Matthew 3:16, 17, First John 2:22, 23. Likewise, Jesus is God the Son, as seen in Hebrews 1:8. First John 5:20.
It’s also should be added that in the song in the beginning of this video , one of the lines of that song is “Muhammad was not a prophet.”
With that specific line of that song I strongly disagree because as Christian I can keyboard that there is a chance the Muhammad actually might had been a prophet but the important thing to understand is that Muhammad was NOT a prophet send by God. Instead, Muhammad was a deceptive, lying false prophet send by Satan to lead many people astray and even and straight into hell. Jesus, in fact, had predicted and warned of the coming of such men as Muhammad. For Jesus taught “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15. In addition, the Bible further warns that “many false prophets have gone out into the world.” First John 4:1
Walter Sieruksays
Robert Spencer when in this video discussion spoke of the attempt by some naive and outright ignorant Christians to have some kind of worthwhile “Christian/ Muslim dialogue” is an exercise of futility.
The reason why this is so is because taking into account of what Christians believe concerning the most important subject of the nature of Jesus. and the greatly contrasting about the nature of Jesus . The great difference of belief between the two is vast and insurmountable..
Therefore the fantasy of a meaningful and useful for good results of having a “Christian/ Muslim dialogue”is preposterous.
As reflected in the rhetorical question posed in the Bible in Amos 3:3 which reads “Can two walk together , unless they are agreed ?”
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somehistory says
RICO should be applied to islam….it’s a “corrupt,” “protection racket” using .threats and intimidation, extortion….in other words,
” racketeering” (dishonest and fraudulent business dealings) and mozlums conspire…making it a “conspiracy” and they are certainly “organized” in this; which fits the definition of the Law;
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Law
Thank you, Mr. Spencer, for the full explanation of dawah and other terms mozlums use in their enforcement of their corrupt and evil belief system.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
27:00 Most muslims are brown – that’s correct, given that there are about 0.6 billion muslims in the subcontinent, and another 0.4 billion in the East Indies. That’s easily more than half of all muslims
As a result, even if one considered Turks, Iranians and Arabs as ‘white’, that would hardly go far. And that ignores that the bulk of muslims in Africa – from Cairo to Mogadishu to Dakar to Tangiers – are not White at all!
However, as far as the number of ‘refugees’ in Western countries go, the majority of muslims may well be ‘white’
࿗Infidel࿘ says
35:00 On the issue of ‘Love Jihad’, this is a term that was originally coined by a Kerala Christian priest, even though that term has subsequently come to be overused by Hindus. As Nupur J Sharma pointed out in a video, there are 5 types of this, which is why the term ‘Love JIhad’ is very inappropirate:
1. Hindu girl falls for a muslim, knowing that he’s muslim, and happily embracing islam to marry him. This is the original meaning of the term, and the only one where its use is appropriate
2. Hindu woman knowingly marries a muslim man w/ the understanding that she’ll be allowed to remain a Hindu and continue practicing her faith after marriage. However, after marriage, even if hubby keeps his end of the deal, other muslim relatives pile on the pressure on her to convert. Also, minimal contact is kept w/ her Hindu family, making the pressure more overbearing
3. Hindu girl falls for a muslim masquerading as a Hindu. Sometimes, he’s exposed in time before she’s deep into the relationship, sometimes he’s exposed way after marriage and kids
4. Hindu girl rejects the advances of a muslim openly trying to convince her to convert to islam and marry her. Usually, when the muslims are that brazen, they back it up w/ threats and force
5. Muslims who befriend Hindu girls make porn videos of them and then use those to blackmail them into doing what they demand – conversion and marriage
I think that the term ‘Muslim trafficking’ is much more appropriate, since it emphasizes that the criminal in all of these are muslim, and also, that these are all various forms of human trafficking. One thing that Hindu brides discover on entering their muslim in-law families is that their husbands are islamically allowed to pimp them around to other relatives – brothers, fathers, cousins, uncles… along the lines of Muhammad and Zainab. The thing Hindu – and other – women need to understand is that it’s not like any other conventional marriage where the woman is only expected to consummate w/ her husband: she’s essentially in a glorified brothel that masquerades as a family, and can be passed around to different men
And all of this not even counting the fact that those women have no rights to their kids, no separate adoption rights or any of that
Mateen Elass says
Infidel,
I’m not familiar with where in Islamic law or in the example of Muhammad the pimping of wives is permitted or encouraged. Would you please point me in the direction of the appropriate source material? This is an important thing to know. Thanks.
gravenimage says
Mateen, I of course cannot speak for Infidel. But I believe the reference to Zainab is to the “Prophet” Muhammed’s cousin Zainab (or Zaynab) bint Jahsh. Muhammed pressured her to marry his adopted son Zayd ibn Harithah, even though she resisted. Later he took a fancy to her himself and forced a divorce, and even dissolved the legality of adoption in Islam. Then he took Zainab for himself.
Then, there have been numerous cases of Muslims treating non-Muslim wives as sex slaves and passing them around to male relatives–there have been several such stories here (I’m sure Robert Spencer can cite some). I don’t believe that this is specifically laid out in Islamic law re wives, but certainly Infidel women can be used as sex slaves–Muhammed himself did this.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
51:00 At a very basic level, ‘interfaith dialogs’ are worthless! Why does it need to exist at all? If someone is a Jew, let her observe kosher, go to the synagogue and live her daily life as one: why would she need any dialog w/ Christians about the validity, or the lack of it, of her faith? If someone is a Hindu and worships some Goddess, again leave him alone, and don’t ‘invite’ him to read a Bible or Quran or Torah or anything. One doesn’t have to believe in Goddess Durga, but there’s no reason to mock someone else who does! If one is a Christian, there is no reason to present him w/ a Torah, a Quran, a Vishnu Purana or a Dianetics book, or mock Jesus Christ. And so on
This is not even bringing in islam into the picture, where the ‘dialog’ is just a form of dawah
gravenimage says
I have no real problem with “interfaith dialog” in most cases–it is more just interfaith friendliness in most cases. Not really needed in most cases, but just a nice thing, if a bit silly sometimes. As with so many other instances, Muslims take a generally harmless Western custom and essentially weaponize it.
Aum says
Very helpful in understanding.
Infidel – thanks for explaining various types as detailed by Nupur Sharma.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
You’re welcome
Walter Sieruk says
The current idea that some Christians are foolishly engaging in, of which Robert Spencer had brought up in this discussion is the folly of “Christian/ Muslim dialogue” in which the deluded false hope of some Christians have of attempting to find some grand similarities and common ground between Christianity and Islam is outright awful.
Such an idea on the part of Christians is in direct contrast to how the Bible instructs Christians to behave. For in Ephesians 5: 11 it reads “Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.” [N.K.J.V.]
For the imams and mullahs are all devout and committed practitioners of Islam are truly in the grip of the “works of darkness” meaning Islam, because in Isaiah 8:20 it reveals “To the law of the testimony ! If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”
In other words, if a religious cleric teachings doctrines that are in contradiction to what is already written in the scriptures, the Bible then that religious teacher about which religion is part of the world of spiritual darkness, demonic darkness.
Islam with its teachings contradicts the Bible.
For Islam denies that Jesus is the Son of God. Meaning that Jesus of the only Son of God the Father.
That is in blatant contradiction to the information revealed in the Bible.. As found, for example, Matthew 3:16, 17, First John 2:22, 23. Likewise, Jesus is God the Son, as seen in Hebrews 1:8. First John 5:20.
It’s also should be added that in the song in the beginning of this video , one of the lines of that song is “Muhammad was not a prophet.”
With that specific line of that song I strongly disagree because as Christian I can keyboard that there is a chance the Muhammad actually might had been a prophet but the important thing to understand is that Muhammad was NOT a prophet send by God. Instead, Muhammad was a deceptive, lying false prophet send by Satan to lead many people astray and even and straight into hell. Jesus, in fact, had predicted and warned of the coming of such men as Muhammad. For Jesus taught “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15. In addition, the Bible further warns that “many false prophets have gone out into the world.” First John 4:1
Walter Sieruk says
Robert Spencer when in this video discussion spoke of the attempt by some naive and outright ignorant Christians to have some kind of worthwhile “Christian/ Muslim dialogue” is an exercise of futility.
The reason why this is so is because taking into account of what Christians believe concerning the most important subject of the nature of Jesus. and the greatly contrasting about the nature of Jesus . The great difference of belief between the two is vast and insurmountable..
Therefore the fantasy of a meaningful and useful for good results of having a “Christian/ Muslim dialogue”is preposterous.
As reflected in the rhetorical question posed in the Bible in Amos 3:3 which reads “Can two walk together , unless they are agreed ?”