Lord, what fools these infidels be.
“Cardinal Opens Francis’ Abu Dhabi Interfaith Shrine,” by Jules Gomes, ChurchMilitant.com, February 22, 2023:
SAADIYAT ISLAND, Abu Dhabi (ChurchMilitant.com) – Cardinal Michael Fitzgerald hosted the first Catholic service at the Abrahamic Family House — an interfaith shrine born of Pope Francis’ Abu Dhabi concordat with Sunni leader Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb.
Speaking on behalf of Pope Francis at the inauguration of St. Francis of Assisi Church — the Catholic section of the complex housing a mosque and synagogue — Fitzgerald said the shrine could be said to fulfill Isaiah’s vision of “a house of prayer for all the peoples.”
“Worship opens us up to others, instilling in us a care for justice, encouraging us to act with integrity,” the cardinal emphasized on Sunday. “We cannot truly pray to God without remembering the other members of the Abrahamic family, and indeed of the human family.”
“The father of the prophet John the Baptist (known to Muslims as Yahya) asks God to bless his son,” Fitzgerald said. “He is asking this of the God of Abraham, the Merciful Lord of Mercy, al-Rahman al-Rahim.”
The cardinal, a former president of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, told the congregation that Muslims had earlier prayed the Maghrib prayer in the mosque section of the shrine on Thursday evening.
Muslim Prayer Anathematizes Christians
“Remarkably, Cdl. Fitzgerald, an acclaimed Islamic scholar, ignored the fact that the Maghrib prayer contains Surah Al-Fatiha, which is one of the most anti-Christian and anti-Jewish texts in the Qur’an,” a Muslim jurist who converted to Christianity told Church Militant.
“The inclusion of this prayer, which is considered indispensable in Muslim worship, tells us everything we need to know about how serious Muslims are about interfaith dialogue,” the convert, who faces the death penalty for apostasy from Islam, added.
After asking Allah to guide Muslims “to the straight path,” verse 7 defines this way as the “path of those whom you have favored, not of those who have earned your anger, or of those who have gone astray,” the convert explained.
Islamic tradition and commentaries from the Hadith of Sahih Bukhari to Tafsir al-Jalalayn identify “those who have earned Allah’s anger” as the Jews and “those who have gone astray” as the Christians.
“The repetition of this identification in Bukhari is an indication of how strong the identification is of those who have earned Allah’s anger with the Jews and those who have gone astray with the Christians,” writes Robert Spencer in his bestseller The Critical Qur’an.
Some Western commentators find it inconceivable that the central prayer of Islam “anathematizes Jews and Christians,” the renowned Islamic scholar notes. “But unfortunately, this interpretation is venerable and mainstream in Islamic theology.”
“The Abrahamic Family House has not led and will not lead Muslims to abandon core Islamic doctrines regarding how Christians wrongly proclaim Christ’s divinity and are under the curse of Allah as a result (cf. Qur’an 9:30; 5:17),” Spencer told Church Militant.
Spencer, author of 23 books on Islam and the Middle East elaborated, “As in all other cases, Muslim/Christian dialogue is seen on the Muslim side as an opportunity to proselytize for Islam and intimidate Christians into fearing to discuss the rampant Muslim persecution of Christians, for fear of harming the dialogue.”
“The interfaith shrine is Pope Francis’ house of cards,” Spencer warned. “It will result in nothing lasting except the continued ignorance and complacency of Catholics regarding the threat of Islamic jihad. Liberal Catholics who think this is a positive step are being naive (at best).”…
Peacelover says
naive idiots
Peacelover says
I know I shouldn’t have been so harsh…how about,naive fools?
Wellington says
Proving again that Vatican II (1962-1965) inaugurated the Roman Catholic Church going into stupid mode. This highly destructive ecumenical council killed off the old Roman Catholic Church (and it’s never coming back) in many ways, examples being the effective elimination of the Latin Mass, the idiotic turning around of the altar (and which makes it look like a Julia Child preparing a chicken recipe), the ever annoying and cloying “let us offer each other a sign of peace,” and the monstrously foolish contention that a religion like Islam has valid revelations from God.
Pope Francis I, at the very least a monumental fool and unwitting enabler of Mo’s creed, and, at worst, a willing participator in the conscious advancement of Islam and the destruction of Western Civilization, represents an inevitable consequence of Vatican II.
So sad and so unnecessary. If only that kind but extremely foolish Pope, John XXIII (1958-1963), had not tried to fix something that wasn’t broken by calling for this entirely unnecessary council.
But he did. And what Vatican II wrought has resulted in far more destruction to the Roman Catholic Church than the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century ever managed to achieve. And which points again to a truism, i.e., that the enemy within is ordinarily far more lethal than the enemy without. Vatican II serves as no exception to this rule.
somehistory says
As recently as yesterday, reports of the pope denouncing those who want to have their service in Latin, has made the news.
I’m not Catholic, so I didn’t read the articles,…there were more than one on the topic…but the headlines said a lot.
Wellington says
The foolish and immensely harmful Francis I, somehistory, has, to date, done all he has been able to do to negate his predecessor’s efforts to bring back the Latin Mass, never mind all of the highly injurious nonsense of Vatican II idiotically giving Islam “a pass” and which Benedict XVI clearly understood was rubbish (e.g., Benedict’s magnificent 2006 speech in Regensburg that accurately described how wicked Islam truly is by way of invoking one of the last of the Byzantine Emperor’s, Manuel Paleologos {1391-1425}, characterization of it).
I look upon Pope Benedict XVI as an heroic figure, theological differences among various Christian sects being not germane here, who knew only too well how harmful Vatican II was to the Roman Catholic Church. His spurious (yes, spurious most likely) successor has not only nixed efforts to bring back old Catholicism but has been actively doing all he can to bury it once and for all. This is the state of the Catholic Church today and were I still a Catholic it would break my heart to witness how much of an enemy within Francis I has been. Hell, it most surely even breaks my agnostic heart so awful has been the fool from Argentina.
There have been some bad Popes (N.B., most Popes have been very good, informed, tough and shrewd men), almost entirely for venal and salacious reasons, but no Pope, even the most morally compromised of them (e.g. Alexander VI), ever made excuses for Islam. But Francis has and which is not only pathetic but tragic. By my measure, Francis is the most destructive Pope in history to the very institution, Roman Catholicism, which he pledged to protect. And he has not.
somehistory says
ty, for your reply, Wellington
Phil A says
Vatican II in its concept is good. It was signed up by all but 3 bishops. It’s the implementation of it and the lack of guidance in its direction where it fell flat and it’s veering further and further left every year.
Wellington says
What concept is that?
somehistory says
These people are eating at the table of demons.
islam is straight from satan, just as ba’al, moloch/molech, ashtoreth, dagan/dagon, and other ancient false “gods” were spawned by satan.
Nothing good will come to those eating and drinking at the table of demons.
They are deceiving themselves, allowing themselves to be deceived by the “angel of light”…a.k.a. satan the devil.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the Father of Jesus Christ, is not pleased with this and He will not hear their prayers or bless their actions.
Devasur says
So Hindu gods are false? Proof for your claim? If you are going to use Bible for it then I can do the same using quran to prove Christianity as corrupted.
So how are you different from muslims who say the same?
No wonder pope treats Islamists as family.
somehistory says
Speech is free. Write what you believe. As I have.
As for Hindus, (there is disagreement among scholars as to when there began to be those called hindu) there are none during the days when the Bible was being written, and the “gods’ I mentioned, are all in the Bible as false, with only Jehovah being the One True God.
. If you believe these ones I have named from that ancient book to be your gods, that is your privilege.
And I have nothing to do with the pope, I am not Catholic and he is not Christian.
I was not intending to offend or insult; unlike what you wrote to me.
Peacelover says
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somehistory says
thank you, Peacelover
Devasur says
I know that, that’s why you are freely demonising non Christians.
If you go by scholars then Jesus word didn’t exist before 16 th century that means Jesus didn’t exist before 16th century?
Lol, just because Christians didn’t know it didn’t exist?
Sanatana Dharma predates Christianity.
Maybe read your own statement you specifically mentioned “other ancient false gods”
I can believe whatever i want unless it doesn’t harm others.
So the claim that yours is true others as false gods only shows a similar radical nature to Islamists who claim the same and kill others for their belief.
So i pointed this out nothing more.
As far as insult, you started it first.
Respect is mutual not one way street.
Devasur says
Sorry typo unless it harms others.
somehistory says
You are misreading what I wrote and you are doing it on purpose. By other “false gods,” I was referring to those in the Bible which I didn’t specifically name.
You wanted to see something, so you saw it. This is not the first time you have attacked something I’ve written and said I am no different than mozlums.
Face it like a man and admit that you hate Christians and you don’t mind letting everyone know that; but then try to hide behind excuses after being called out. “you started, it yada yada.”
If you want to read the book of filth from islam and make attempts to smear Christianity, that is something you’ll do no matter what. But, your ability to take things from what I have written and turn them is no better than satan’s ability to twist Scripture and use it to get Jeus to commit sin.
You don’t believe in My God; you don’t believe what the Bible says is True. that makes you no different than mozlums, going by your way of thinking.
If I believed that the many gods of hinduism were True, and still believed that the One God of Truth, Jehovah, was The Only God, that would make me a really confused person.
Everyone who has a religious belief, chooses which god or gods they worship. And by choosing one and not worshiping others, they are saying that their god is the right one.
There would be no value, no point, in wishy-washy worship.
As the Apostle Paul said to a group of men gathered to talk, “I am preaching to you an unknown God,” because those men had an idol labeled “to an Unknown God” because they didn’t want to anger a God of whom they were unaware, by omission. “just in case’ there was a god they didn’t know.
Christianity is built on the Laws of Judaism; Jesus was a Jew and called Messiah, Who had been promised from the very beginning in Genesis. The One sent to earth by God to be the Messiah, the Christ, God’s Anointed, existed in Heaven from the beginning of God’s creation. He even said, ”Before Abraham was, I am.”
Jesus was, therefore. living in heaven long before any person became a hindu.
One more point, I don’t expect any respect from you, so I’m not disappointed. Now go ahead and pretend to “laugh out loud”, because I’m done wasting my time on responding to you
You should be willing to admit that you hate Christians and don’t mind one bit when they are persecuted and killed by mozlums.
joanofark06 says
There can only be ONE TRUE religion! ONE TRUE God! And I’d rather have the One, that says He made the first humans, this earth and everything in and around it.
We are told that Satan is on this earth, and has been from the beginning. And what’s his first priority? To get people like you and others, to believe in MANY gods. Even to false gods!
Who made up all of these MANY different religions, with all their respective gods? And why? Would one god, make all the other gods of other religions? No, because a god is an entity on the very top of his kingdom, and would want, no would DEMAND, that everyone worship only him. And they would NOT want 10 or 20 other gods around, to share their one kingdom!
So tell me, who made up all of these “gods” of all these “religions”? And for what purpose would they do that for (if they did)?
“whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.”
2 Corinthians 4:4
bill carr says
All gods are false and creations of man not the other way around. The Hindu religion is the most insane and has more ‘gods’ than all the other religions put together. How you keep track of them is a mystery
tim gallagher says
As far as I can see, islam and Christianity are polar opposites. islam is, and always has been, a vicious, murderously violent creed, full of hared as seen in the Koran, while Christianity encourages peacefulness and tolerance. Christians may not live up the high ideals, but they do exist in that religion. islam is always down there in the gutter with no high ideals. And how many Christians are there among the 270 million plus victims of islam’s murderous violence during its 1400 year history. I suppose that these Christian church leaders, who try to behave well towards Muslims, are hoping that Muslims will, therefore, behave a lot better towards non-Muslims. It is never going to happen. What gullible fools these types of Chruch leaders are. They should be calling islam out as the evil religious ideology that it is.
Peacelover says
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tim gallagher says
Thanks, Peacelover.
alexreid says
Useful idiot, like all them non-Muslim Apologists. Way back in the early 1960’s a Canadian Member of the Evangelist Billy Graham’s inner circle told him he was leaving & returning to Canada to pick up a normal Life. Graham informed him, quote: “I’m not quitting. I’m too far into this business.”
That’s all it is. A perverted business.
Western Leaders, these clerics are simply kow-towing to a Fascistic, political ideology, with a touch of Religion to give it more credence.
They’re dicing with the Liberties of future generations. As I said, useful idiots
kq6kq6kq6 says
Holy Father in Heaven: I pray for the defeat of Hillary Clinton, the Muslims, the three Muslims in Congress (Omar, Tliab, and whatever), Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi and all the pro-abortion, pro-Islamic Democratics in the government. I pray for France, Britain, Sweden, The Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Canada, and the USA that you make them all great Christian countries so that they may get rid of the Muslims. In Jesus Christ name, I pray. Amen.
Peacelover says
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Aum says
Francis is a communist!
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Why do different religions have to be grouped together? If anything, the multiple sects within any faith ought to be encouraged, and treated as separate, be it the 100+ odd Christian denominations, the different Jewish ones, the 8 different Hindu sects and so on. Absolutely no need to bundle them under umbrellas such as ‘Abrahamic’ or ‘Dharmaic’: while they may have had common origins, they’ve evolved over centuries to become completely different from each other
Equally stupid are those ‘interfaith dialogs’. No two faiths, or even sects, need to dialog. Just focus on servicing your own members
GreekEmpress says
Valid points worth considering—
+1
Jayell1 says
‘After asking Allah to guide Muslims “to the straight path,” verse 7 defines this way as the “path of those whom you have favored, not of those who have earned your anger, or of those who have gone astray,” the convert explained. Islamic tradition and commentaries from the Hadith of Sahih Bukhari to Tafsir al-Jalalayn identify “those who have earned Allah’s anger” as the Jews and “those who have gone astray” as the Christians.’
Now, here’s a funny thing. There’s one of those short 0ne-minute videos on Youtube featuring an imam looking straight into the camera and telling everyone that islam respects Christianity and Christians, and even quotes a verse from their ‘holy book’ that states that Christians are ‘special people’. And, of course, every idiot in creation will believe him and not suspect for one moment that this ‘holy man’ might be deliberately lying since they would never have heard of ‘taqiyah’ or ‘kitman’ or any other such vile excretion of the ‘Religion of Pdeace’. I wish I could post a link, but I don’t know how to do it.
PS = there’s no room for comments on these short videos, I notice. How convenient.
SJ says
Yes, but some do know that Islam is a pathological lying cult. They’ve even convinced the LGBTQ community that they’re an allies of them. That will last until more of the cult is in the country. Then they’ll start the killing.
But truly, there needs to be a true discussion about Islam, but apparently this will not happen under this administration.
And…America is a Judea -Christian nation, not Islamic and not Hindu!