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It was all a joke, she says. After igniting a firestorm by calling for the murder of pro-lifers on The View Friday, Hanoi Jane Fonda issued a statement: “While women’s reproductive rights are a very serious issue and extremely important to me, my comment on The View was obviously made in jest. My body language and tone made it clear to those in the room – and to anyone watching – that I was using hyperbole to make a point.” Except that it obviously wasn’t clear to anyone present. Fonda was speaking seriously; her declaration only became a joke when it became clear to her that she had crossed a red line.
Video of Fonda’s appearance on The View shows that she made even the Leftist hysterics of The View uncomfortable, and they immediately began trying to explain her remarks away, which no one would have done if Fonda’s “jest” had been obvious. What Fonda was actually doing, albeit unwittingly, was revealing (as if we needed more confirmation of it) the dark heart of the pro-abortion Left.
Fonda began it all by saying: “We have experienced many decades now of having agency over our body, of being able to determine when and how many children to have. We know what that feels like. We know what that’s done for our lives. We’re not going back. I don’t care what the laws are. We’re not going back.” Jane Fonda is 85 years old, sounds twice that age, and is not in any danger of being forced to have a child, but of course she is selflessly looking out for the ability of younger women to sacrifice their children to Moloch.
Sunny Hostin, the unrepentant racist who has called white women “roaches,” responded to Fonda’s defiance by saying, “That’s the activist speaking, and then — and, she probably will get a Nobel Prize very, very, very soon.” Picking up on Hostin’s subtle hint of mockery, Fonda, wide-eyed, insisted: “But it’s the truth! It, it is the truth. We’re not gonna do it. We’re gonna fight.” Behar then asked Fonda: “Besides marching and, and protesting, what else do you suggest?”
That was when Fonda said: “Well, I love murder.” The NewsBusters transcript has “Well, it does involve murder,” but I’ve played it over and over and it certainly sounds to me as if Fonda says, “Well, I love murder.” And, well, of course she does, because that’s what abortion is. But there was a lot of cross-talk and so it’s possible that Fonda said something else, but the “murder” part was unmistakable. Lily Tomlin was among those who weren’t sure of what they had heard, so she asked Fonda, “What did you say?” Fonda responded unequivocally: “Murder.”
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Linde B. says
According to an online article in “AXIOS”
about 93% of abortions reported in 2019
were performed by the 13th week of pregnancy. Abortion is never a good thing,
but any woman who has an abortion
should have it by the 13th week of pregnancy, if not before, as there are 13
weeks in 3 months. Why any woman would
wait to have an abortion after 3 months is
stupidity and arrogance. One must conclude
that Jane Fonda is stupid, arrogant and evil if she advocates for abortion up to birth,
because the fetus will feel pain after a
certain point in time. Horrifyingly, there are
a few states that allow abortions with no
time limit. I have to wonder what kind of
medical personnel are in those states. 😈
Even though I believe in FREE SPEECH FOREVER, Jane Fonda is not someone
who should be guiding anybody about anything. In my opinion, she is a hypocrite and a narcissistic, evil person. 😈
Fitna says
Like all ‘pro-lifers’ you ask questions to which you don’t want to hear the actual answer to or because you arrogantly and naively think you already know.
Everything you’ve stated or asked is nothing new, you can easily Google it and get the reasons, by listening to women/girls who need abortions.
“Abortion is never a good thing…”
Why and says who? Abortion is great for the woman who didn’t plan to get pregnant, but the condom broke, so now she won’t be stuck for the next 20 years of her life raising an unwanted baby.
It’s great for the young teen who doesn’t have a job (is too young for motherhood) or was raped.
Abortion is also a blessing to the child itself that was not wanted and given up for adoption, growing up with no siblings or a normal home, facing abuse, rape by their so-called caregivers.
There are thousands of other reasons why it is needed…not to mention that the woman’s reproductive decisions are btw her and her doctor and none of your or the church’s business.
Your God regularly aborted millions of babies during his genocides, like the great Flood or killing the first-born sons of Egypt, or even now through miscarriages every year.
Christians use Abortion and Evolution to impose their retarded, backwards religion on unbelievers, the same way that Muslims do to us also.
But millions of people are leaving religion and within a generation you will be a small, whiny, loud but insignificant minority. Till then we have to hear your crazy rants…in the future we’re going to overturn all the crazy shit you forced on the rest of us.
Hopefully we’ll go a step further and ban all religions from ever being allowed in any public institutions until they all die off and they will.
Linde B. says
To Fitna- You are projecting your values onto me as far as what you state about abortion. I would never condemn any woman who was raped and asked for an abortion. But I feel any woman who is raped and does not want to keep the baby should have an abortion by 13 weeks, which is the end of the 3rd month.
Additionally, I have a brother who had a baby with a woman who was on drugs. So the baby was born drug addicted. Hospital procedure does not permit the birth mom to take home their baby in this case; the baby must go into Foster Care at least for a few months. The court ruled that if the baby’s mother could be drug free for 1 year by going to meetings at Narcotics Anonymous at least 1 time a week, and not do any drugs except if by prescribed by a physician, then my brother and his girlfriend (the woman on drugs) could get their child back. Well, that never happened. So their child was given up for adoption and was raised very well. I know because I met the adopted mom and my brother’s child. That is 1 story of many to show abortion of a child from a drug addicted mother is not a good idea.
Fitna, I have nothing against anybody. But you write with a really mean and nasty attitude. You should consider moving to Communist China because the government there does not want their people to believe in any God, and you do not seem to believe that there really is a good God, Perhaps you are grieving?
Christianity and Judaism are considered civilized religions. I do not want to comment about any other religion because those are irrelevant to me.
Fitna says
Forgot to add, I’m sure you’d love to live in your little bubble surrounded by brainwashed freaks like yourself…but that’s the beauty of the freedom of speech.
Those of us who disagree with you and put you in your place, show you what a retarded fool you are and you have to just take it.
If you prefer to live in a Theocracy, there are 57 Islamic states that you can go live in and experience what it’s like if you contradict or disagree with their dogmas.
Since radical Christians like you and SH already hold extremist views similar to Muslims you’d fit right in….but you’d have to convert to Islam since they don’t tolerate your intolerant religion.
Fitna says
Linde,
What are you babbling about? What values did I “project” onto you?
On the one hand you support a rape-victim getting an abortion, on the other you support the murder of people who perform or seek out abortions, since you called SomeHistory’s statements ‘profound.’
(It’s laughable you’d call the banal rants of a random troll like SH ‘profound’ it just demonstrates you don’t even know what that word means or read the works of actually deep/profound thinkers and scholars like Einstein, Michel Foucault, Nietzsche and others.)
You can’t have it both ways Linde-that’s called ‘a contradiction,’ which is it? Either you think abortionists should be killed or you support them. I think you’re about as nutty as your Christian Taliban buddy below whose azz you were just kissing a moment ago.
Note the irony too of so-called ‘pro-lifers’ calling for the murder of people they disagree with. Note also the foolishness of thinking you’re in the majority when in reality, the vast majority of people support abortion and you’d badly lose in a war against them.
That drug-addicted baby should’ve obviously been aborted, so it wouldn’t suffer a terrible existence. It’s thanks to loons like yourself that women die in childbirth or are forced to resort to hangers/back-alley abortions and have dumpster/toilet babies because you deny women the right to terminate a pregnancy.
Aww the evil person who supports the killing of those who disagree with her (pro-choicers) is whining about mean words…have a good cry there Linde you little fascist tyrant bully.
As for going to another country, you pro-lifers can all pack up and go with your fellow religious nutters in the mideast or Hungary. We’re the majority in America, the country is ours. Once we get the right people in power, they will reinstate abortion laws.
Linde B. says
To Fitna- the first paragraph of your 1:52 pm comment shows you are projecting, at least to me it does. You
are very bitter, or perhaps you have a huge ego, so you must lash out and insult people who do not have your point of view. Your comments are not critical thinking as I know it, just complaints about things that do not go your way.
The baby who was born to my brother’s drug addict girlfriend
is a positive thinking, hard working, law abiding young man. And I give 100% credit for this to the couple who adopted him when he was about 1 year old. Why should adoption upset you or anyone else? I look at it as a gift or blessing from God. And so does my nephew! He is grateful that he was not aborted. Too bad for you that you think he should have been.
Finally, I do not advocate killing people
who perform abortions, or killing those who speak out for abortion.
But Jane Fonda thinks it is ok and that is wrong. Jane Fonda should move to Communist China with you. 😈
Fitna says
Ofc Linde put her foot in her mouth and can’t explain how I’ve “projected my values onto her” so she just cites my comment, which doesn’t answer my question.
Another form of running away from the question because she knows she was wrong to begin with.
Actually you did advocate for killing those who perform and seek out abortions when SomeHistory said such people “lose their right to live” and you chimed in with positive support by calling it ‘profound statements’ right after. Then later said that you 100% agree with SH’s ‘truth.’
You can lie and deny, but anyone can see your posts below. I like how you trip over your tongue in every post, contradicting yourself….here is the “fine” (har har) mind of a religious fanatic in action.
Did you tell SH it’s wrong to advocate for murdering your opponents? Ofc not, because you agree with her…until you got called out on it and now you’re trying to parse words.
As for the drug-addicted baby, we only have your worthless words to go by. In fact if you do any basic research, you’d realize that orphans have terrible lives and it would’ve been better had they not been born.
We have about 8 billion people…religious people want billions more, because you’re insane and don’t care about human suffering nor do you think about our finite resources. You just prove once again, religious people have no business at all being in any government.
Are you actually telling 77%, of the population, that supports abortion to go live in China? Believe me we’d probably deport your kind first and there’s little you could do to stop, again with the right people in power.
Barbara says
Adoption is a win-win. The woman does not have to keep the baby, there are hundreds of couples who would adopt if there was a baby to adopt. More couples would adopt over-seas babies, but the cost is prohibitive.
With no babies in country these couples are childless.
somehistory says
Absolutely.
somehistory says
In my view, (and many may disagree), anyone who performs murder on an unborn child, forfeits his right to continue living.
and any woman who knowingly has her baby murdered, forfeits her right to continue living.
The Bible plainly tells us that God decreed that life is sacred, and that life belongs to Him, and that anyone “shedding man’s blood’ will have his own blood shed. “Life for life, soul for soul.”
Many deny, many argue, when the beginning becomes a human. But, there is no honest denial that the **cells** are alive .
In the reports on the murders at the Kingdom Hall in Germany, some named the baby, 7 months along, a person. She was a little girl. At least one, wrote as if the baby was not a person when listing how many people died.
fonda called for the murder of adults. fonda said they “are not going back.” fonda evil person that she is, doesn’t care who dies as long as she…way past the point of having a child…is allowed to promote the murder of innocent babies.
Women engage in activity which can…and often does…result in being pregnant. Women are aware of when they do that. Most women are aware of certain changes that happen in the first few weeks….before the nausea, before the baby is of a size large enough for others to tell…and so should realize they are responsible for the new life.
Many give women a *pass* and say hey ‘don’t know’ they are pregnant until well along. This might be true in rare cases. But not in the majority.
The baby is a human person from the get-go and should have every protection an adult has to live and seek happiness….because it is their *right* as much as it is the *right* of an adult.
People are horrified that fonda is calling for the murder of adults who are against the murder of unborn children. It is no more horrific than the murder of the babies she is calling for, and she says she’ll fight….and the other women agreed…for women to keep the murder mill going.
Linde B. says
To somehistory- Thank you for these very profound statements.
somehistory says
And thank you, Linde B.
We must keep telling the Truth.
Linde B. says
To somehistory- Yes, I totally agree 100%, even though some people do not want to hear it. 😭
somehistory says
A lot of people don’t want to hear the Truth about islam, either. Or about things the government is doing that are evil.
But we can’t allow those who don’t like Truth to dictate to us about what we think and are bold enough to say.
Fitna says
Did you know that 3 out of 4 people (77%) of the US population oppose overturning Roe and want to keep abortion legal?
https://n.pr/3mKFXcW
So if you advocate for killing Pro-Choicers, and they think it’s ok to kill Pro-Lifers, guess who’s going to easily win that war?
You care nothing about the life of the unborn and esp. women because if you did, you’d support social/welfare programs that took care of the child/mother.
What you actually care about is thinking you’re making your god happy by adhering to the stupid backwards ideas that goat-herders from 2,000 years ago wrote down, which they claim come from a magic bearded man in the sky…and you foolishly believe this nonsense.
The Bible also says stone your wife on her father’s doorstep if it’s found she’s not a virgin…I’m sure someone like you would gladly be there with a handful of rocks, gleefully pelting the unchaste woman until she died a slow, painful, horrible death, but that’s how black and evil your heart is.
What next, burn witches? Maybe you want to keep some slaves as well? Lock girls up in kitchens, barefoot and pregnant? I bet you want to also eliminate science, medicine and drag humanity back to the Dark Ages, just like the Muslims.
I’m actually kind of surprised that many Christians and Muslims don’t unite, because most of your beliefs/values are very similar, esp. against women/girls.
As Sam Harris said “how you can you reason with someone that doesn’t value reason?”
What we need are laws to keep extremist religious lunatics like you out of gov’t. You want to believe that nonsense in the privacy of your home, go for it. Don’t try to force that garbage on me and our great secular-democracy, which became great thanks to Science and Reason, despite religion holding us back for centuries.
You make me think maybe China has the right idea with their Uighur re-education camps…make you realize you live in the 21st century now and not the 0 AD.
Barbara says
She wants to murder those who are against abortion. That is the same attitude she had during the Vietnam war. She has just changed the object of her hatred.
First it was the Vietnam soldiers and now it is the pro-life people.
James Lincoln says
Sounds about right, Barbara.
Linde B. says
To Barbara- You are so right. And I wish I could ask this question to Lefty-Libtard Jane Fonda: “Why did you go to Vietnam and degrade the American soldiers who were following orders? Why didn’t you go to Washington DC and make the stupid politicians tell you their motive for getting America’s soldiers to fight in Vietnam AND YET DID NOT WANT TO DECLARE WAR THERE?” 😛😜😝
Barbara says
N Vietnam very closely watched the people and how they demonstrated against the government. It was the protests that encouraged N Vietnam to keep fighting. They knew eventually the people’s unrest would force the government to leave Vietnam.
In part the demonstrators lost the war. The government was fighting ‘a limited war’. This attitude was Wilson’s idea of how to fight and lose a war.
Linde B. says
To Barbara- Thank you for your comments. I can never forget the horrors of the Vietnam War as it started when I was in junior high school, many decades ago. My great Social Studies teacher John Coda was a U.S. Marine and he had us look at 2 maps of Vietnam showing a comparison of the areas taken by US forces in 2 different years. He said “Students, does it look like we are losing ground? Because we are.” And to my thinking, the Vietnam War was the first of several wars where the greed of the Military Industrial Complex prevailed over the sanity of our politicians in Washington DC. And who knows, maybe those politicians got paid off by the Military Industrial Complex?
As far as Woodrow Wilson, he got a rating of 0 out of 10 by Robert Spencer in his great book “Rating America’s Presidents.”
That rating meshes with your statement about Wilson. Sad.
Linde B. says
To Fitna- This will be my last comment to you on this article. I do not think that women who have abortions should be murdered, but I do think they should surrender themselves to God after their abortion and start living a godly life because abortion is not good. And somehistory used the word “forfeit” which means “surrender” or “give up” or “lose”. It does not mean “to be murdered.” And Jesus Christ, God Incarnate says in Matthew 10:39 “….and he who loses his life for my sake will find it.” So this is my answer to your latest comment. I wish you well and I will pray for you because you need help.
somehistory says
Linde B.
Thank you for this:
omehistory used the word “forfeit” which means “surrender” or “give up” or “lose”. It does not mean “to be murdered.” And Jesus Christ, God Incarnate says in Matthew 10:39 “….and he who loses his life for my sake will find it.”
One can’t go wrong when quoting Jesus Christ in this manner.
Linde B. says
To somehistory- Thank you. 🙏🤗
I am not as dumb as Fitna has implied. 🥳
somehistory says
Linde B.
I pay no attention to fitna….a mozlum term…any longer. I once read and sometimes replied to his posts, but not any longer.
Time is wasted arguing with someone who denies that life is sacred.
The Psalmist wrote: “The foolish one has said in his heart, ‘There is no God’.”
tim gallagher says
I was shocked when i saw Fonda say this, it was shown on a show on Sky News here in Australia as an example of how hate filled some left wingers are. I thought that it was a comment that went way over the line and I also thought that, even if she thought such a thing, that, especially at her age, she would have the self control to bite her lip and not say it out loud. Surely, she will face quite a strong backlash over such a disgusting comment. Anyway, what an arsehole of a human being she plainly is. Old Hanoi Jane – some people stay down there in the gutter their whole life long.
somehistory says
How would she feel if someone expressed against her the same things she has expressed against others?
I seem to recall that in an interview some years ago, she was asked a question about her age,,,actually her plastic surgery so she could continue to believe she’s pretty… and she was insulted. But, she threatens others’ lives and all because they disagree with her murderous bent.
In the gutter is right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ze-2nAHP0
tim gallagher says
Yes, somehistory, i was surprised at the lack of self- control Fonda displayed. Do you think that she will face any substantial consequences for saying such an obnoxious thing. As you say, how would she react if someone said the same about her. There are often two sets of rules, one for the protected left wingers and one for conservatives. The media would come down on a conservative who expressed such a point of view, but will tend to let their left wing mates off lightly.
somehistory says
Tim, thank you. I have seen too many pro-killing people attack non-violent pro-life people, but I have never seen the opposite.
I’m sure if someone went on television and said people like fonda should be murdered because she wants to keep the baby-killing going top speed, that person would be arrested before they could leave the studio.
Just like when Mr. Trump was threatened, nothing happened to the woman holding up a fake head.
Whereas, when bo was pretending to be pres, someone was arrested for a bumper sticker about him…and it said nothing about murder.
the society today is really twisted.
tim gallagher says
Yes, there’s a definite double standard involved. There should be some kind of consequence for Fonda for saying what she said, but I guess there won’t be. It’ll probably be merely treated as some kind of a joke. i was thinking that, maybe, Fonda is so old by now that she figures that she can say anything she likes and couldn’t care about the consequences.
Linde B. says
To somehistory- I am grateful to you for holding your ground. I am the same way. As for Fitna, I am praying for that person to become a believer in the One True and Only God; the Triune God.
Linde B. says
To Tim Gallagher-Thank you for speaking the plain, honest truth. Jane Fonda is only about what her Lefty-Libtard brain likes and dislikes. For most of the rest of us commenters on this website, it is about doctrine and principle.
tim gallagher says
Thanks, Linde B. I was definitely shocked when I heard what Fonda said. I honestly thought that she would have more self-control, especially at her age, and would have held herself back and not said such an appalling thing. In Australia, they showed this on a show I like on Sky News, called “Outsiders” where they get stuck into the issues which make up the culture wars, and hammer some of the left wingers’ antics. They have a segment called “lefty lunacy” and another called “Whackademia’. They showed it as an example of the level of hatred some left wing types display.
James Lincoln says
People generally speak their true feelings the first time around.
After they realize that what they had said has caused a huge backlash, they pivot, backtrack, “you misinterpreted me”, etc.
Generally all bullsh*t.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
She may claim to be joking, except that there are enough thugs on her side who support this in real life, be it Antifa, “Ruth sent us” and “Jane’s Revenge”. So I think pro-Life people should be armed, and when confronted by people like Jane Fonda or members of the above mentioned groups, should just go ahead and abort them
somehistory says
I watched a clip. It seemed that behar was the one who said fonda was ‘joking.’ and fonda glared at her.
I could be wrong. I have been before. Whatever the case, pro=life people are not a danger to the lives of those who are in favor of murdering babies…and even adults such as fonda favors.
As you say, those in favor of baby=killing, don’t have a problem being violent and threatening the lives of those who disagree. In the *climate* in which we are living, those like fonda wouldn’t hesitate to want to lock up any pro-life person engaging in self-defense.
Much like they have stormed the homes of pro-life pastors and arrested them for standing near pp clinics and talking. Can anyone imagine what would be done to him if a pastor took a gun to someone threatening his son?
OLD GUY says
Jane Finda irrelevante as always.
Major Tom says
A brain dead old boot! I still remember the photo of her with her NVA ack ack buddies in the gun pit!
E T says
She is worth 200 million so people still look up to the 85 year old traitor.
James Lincoln says
E T,
Yes, she is a very rich sack of sh*t…
somehistory says
Washington Examiner
“Congresswoman reports Jane Fonda to Capitol Police for call to ‘murder’ anti-abortionists”
“Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) said Hollywood icon Jane Fonda and The View hosts “need to be held accountable” for suggesting that pro-abortion rights women could use “murder” as a solution to win back control over their bodies.
Luna has since reported Fonda and The View hosts to the Capitol Police, saying their discussion spawned a death threat.
“Unfortunately, for Ms. Fonda, Capitol Police takes this issue very seriously, as do I and many of my pro-life Republican colleagues,” Luna told Fox News’s Jesse Watters. “So I’m sure they will be investigating and she will be having to answer for her comments.”
Luna added that the death threat was posted as a comment on social media below a video clip of Fonda’s comments on The View.”
Linde B. says
To somehistory- Thank you for this news. I am so glad that Anna Paulina Luna spoke up. I wonder if Jane Fonda will apologize to protect her ass-ets.
And I am still praying for Fitna. 🙏
somehistory says
Linde, B,
fonda never apologized for working with the viet cong, did she?
Evidently, Rep Luna has had a death threat against her for her pro-life stand. Hopefully, the one doing the threatening will face punishment and so too, the ghoulish jerk, fonda.
I pray for God to do His will, and since He knows the heart of each person, He will see that any who, as Paul wrote, “are disposed for everlasting life,” will receive that blessing.
“fitna” said in a post some time back, that he was raised to be Christian. Looks like it didn’t stick. But, maybe he will turn out to be a “prodigal” who returns.
Linde B. says
To somehistory- I appreciate your comments because they are relevant and go “beneath the surface”. And I can remember Jane Fonda in a tv interview (I forget the male host whose show it was) saying that her 1st husband Roger Vadim wanted to have a 3-some with Jane and
another woman and Jane agreed to this!
To me, she is a moron.
And I do not think Jane Fonda ever apologized for what she did to US troops in Vietnam.