They might harm the “dialogue.”
“Rome Cancels Anti-Muslim Papal Bulls As Uncatholic,” by Jules Gomes, ChurchMilitant.com, April 4, 2023:
VATICAN CITY (ChurchMilitant.com) – The Vatican has abrogated three papal bulls claiming that the documents are offensive to indigenous peoples and “have never been considered expressions of the Catholic faith.”
The bulls Dum Diversas (1452), Romanus Pontifex (1455) and Inter Caetera (1493) contain the basis for the “doctrine of discovery,” which “is not part of the teaching of the Catholic Church,” the Vatican has announced.
Cultural Imperialism
“The Church acknowledges that these papal bulls did not adequately reflect the equal dignity and rights of indigenous peoples,” the dicasteries for Culture and Education and for Promoting Integral Human Development said in a joint statement published Thursday.
The Vatican dicasteries quoted Pope Francis’ words endorsing the repeal of the bulls: “Never again can the Christian community allow itself to be infected by the idea that one culture is superior to others, or that it is legitimate to employ ways of coercing others.”
Since the Magisterium “upholds the respect due to every human being,” the “Catholic Church therefore repudiates those concepts that fail to recognize the inherent human rights of indigenous peoples, including what has become known as the legal and political ‘doctrine of discovery,'” the Vatican statement categorically declared.
The bulls’ contents “were manipulated for political purposes by competing colonial powers in order to justify immoral acts against indigenous peoples that were carried out, at times, without opposition from ecclesiastical authorities,” the statement added.
Modern-day Islamophiles have sought to present these as wars of conquest and colonization.But top Islamic scholars told Church Militant that the Vatican had annulled the bulls not so much because of their purported relationship to colonialism and slavery but because the documents were offensive to Islam and an obstacle to ongoing dialogue.
Appeasing Islam
“The revocation of these bulls is likely the result of Francis’ ongoing ‘dialogue’ with the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Ahmed al-Tayeb,” Robert Spencer, Islamic scholar and author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades), told Church Militant.
“That ‘dialogue’ only resumed, after al-Tayeb broke it off during the papacy of Pope Benedict XVI, when Francis agreed not to criticize Islam or speak out against Muslim persecution of Christians. Al-Tayeb, meanwhile, made no similar concessions. The ‘dialogue’ is entirely one-sided,” Spencer noted.
“The public repudiation of these long-forgotten documents is intended to buttress the pope’s efforts to engage Islamic groups in this dialogue, which results only in the issuance of soothing falsehoods and will not prevent a single Christian from Muslim persecution,” Spencer added….
In fact, all three bulls are mentioned together in volume seven of the scholarly series Christian–Muslim Relations: A Bibliographical History — Central and Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa and South America (1500-1600), published in 2015 by the academic publisher Brill.
Enemies of the Cross
“The Dum Diversas of 1452 authorized the king of Portugal to attack, conquer and subdue not only Muslims but also pagans and other unbelievers and to seize their goods and territories, transferring them to his own possession,” the book notes.
In its Latin text, Romanus Pontifex encourages “Catholic kings and princes” to “not only repress the ferocity of the Saracens [Muslims] and the other infidel enemies of the Christians but also conquer their kingdoms and places, even if they exist in very distant and unknown parts from us, for the defense and increase of the Faith.”
The bull Inter Caetera is a historic remnant with no juridical, moral or doctrinal value.The bull condemns “the perfidious enemies of the Cross, especially the Saracens and all the other infidels” and orders the excommunication of those who send the Muslims “weapons and other things prohibited by the law.”
It authorized King Alfonso of Portugal to “invade, conquer, defeat and subjugate all Saracens and pagans and other enemies of Christ” and to “enslave their persons perpetually” and seize their possessions for profit.
Pope Nicholas V ends the bull with a warning that no one may “infringe or rashly contradict his decree. … But if anyone does attempt this, let him know that he will incur the indignation of almighty God and His blessed Apostles Peter and Paul.”
In Dum Diversas, Nicholas V commends Alfonso for intending “to subjugate the enemies of Christ, i.e. the Saracens, and bring them back to the faith of Christ with a mighty hand,” noting that “the authority of the Apostolic See supports you in this.”
Dum Diversas ends with a similar proscription:
It is therefore permissible for no man to diminish this page of our concession, reparation, will, indult and decree, or oppose it with rash initiative. If anyone dares to attack her, let him know that he is about to incur the wrath of Almighty God and the blessed Apostles Peter and Paul.
Inter Caetera both “confirmed the terms” of Romanus Pontifex and “specified that the spiritual jurisdiction of the regions conquered was to lie with the Order of Christ, the successors to the Knights Templar in Portugal,” the Brill book explains.
The Holy See confirms that Inter Caetera has already been abrogated.“These bulls, with their statements about how important it is to resist the efforts of Islam to conquer and subjugate Christians, embarrass Pope Francis and today’s Vatican,” Spencer said, lamenting how the pope “is wholeheartedly committed to the fond and false notion that ‘dialogue’ with Islam will blunt, and possibly even extinguish, the jihad imperative.”
“The recent histories of Nigeria, Iraq and elsewhere show how false and damaging that idea really is,” Spencer warned.
In July 2022, two protestors with a large banner confronted the pontiff during Mass at the Sainte-Anne-de-Beaupré Basilica outside Quebec City and asked him to rescind the “doctrine of discovery.”
However, in a statement to the United Nations Ninth Session of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues in April 2010, the Vatican argued it had abrogated the doctrine as early as 1494.
“The bull Inter Caetera is a historic remnant with no juridical, moral or doctrinal value,” the statement said. “The Holy See confirms that Inter Caetera has already been abrogated and considers it without any legal or doctrinal value.”
Wellington says
This is all an advantage to Sharia creep, here by way of an indirect way whereby the Vatican, now a collective good dhimmi, has become an apologist for the very religion which seeks the decimation of Christianity—even to the point of End Times when all Christians will be thrown into Hell by Jesus for deifying Him.
I state again that the tragedy which was Vatican II (1962-1965), called for by a decent but very foolish man, i.e., Pope John XXIII (1958-1963), effectively killed off the old Catholic Church and said “old Church” has been replaced by much harmful nonsense as has occurred under, quite arguably, the worst Pope in history, i.e., Francis I. John Paul II and Benedict XVI fought against the immense harm that Vatican II caused but I fear that it has proven to be not enough, noble as the effort was.
Hell, even former bad Popes like Alexander VI (1492-1503) were only bad in a venal way and never in any doctrinal manner. Not anymore. In brief, the once stalwart defender of Western Civilization and the Judeo-Christian tradition, i.e., the Vatican, has become nothing more than another willing accomplice in the destruction of the greatest civilization of all time.
Yes, it’s come to this. And, as an aside, I would contend that as the Vatican goes, so goes the fate of the West if not even all of mankind.
gravenimage says
+1
James Lincoln says
Wellington says,
“John Paul II and Benedict XVI fought against the immense harm that Vatican II caused but I fear that it has proven to be not enough, noble as the effort was.”
Yes.
Perhaps, analogous to what Pres. Trump tried to accomplish during his term as POTUS.
Jon Sobieski says
Why does the Catholic Church bow to Islam? I believe this Pope will burn in hell. Maybe the new Pope can save Catholicism? Or should we abandon all hope?
What a world. This theory that some thing like a virus has poisoned the mind of a large portion of the West resulting in this insane agenda is (Islam is great, Trans are women) maybe not so farfetched.
nicholas tesdorf says
The “dialogue.” is a monologue.
gravenimage says
Spot on. All of this “dialog” goes only one way. Don’t expect any high-ranking Imams to repudiate any part of violent Islamic history.
Michael McQuade says
this gives new meaning to the phrase ‘papal bull’
somehistory says
uh huh and in no way a good thing.
when I was a kid, not being Catholic, I had no idea what one was. My family owned cattle, and my father worked for a rancher who had many cattle…some were huge brahmas,,,
I didn’t have a clue that these things were writings by some guy.
It’s funny that one guy has the power to undo what a bunch of other guys have done in the past simply by deciding to..
somehistory says
This kissy-face photo churns the stomach. Did the partner in this visit the pope in hospital and give the pope some affection in his affliction? What does the pope creature expect in return for his caving in?
Jon Sobieski says
It’s my favorite photo of this Pope. Says it all.
somehistory says
And what is that purple thing under the pope’s nose and against the mozzie’s lips?
GreekEmpress says
Pope Francis agreed not to speak out against persecution of Christians by Muslims.
And that says it all, doesn’t it?
somehistory says
It certainly does. He is a false shepherd, he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and his work is that of the devil.
When the mozlums come for his neck, will he remain silent? Or will he cry out and whine that he’s their friend and on their side? Or will he remove his little hat thingy and show his big bruise?
James Lincoln says
Wellington says,
“John Paul II and Benedict XVI fought against the immense harm that Vatican II caused but I fear that it has proven to be not enough, noble as the effort was.”
Yes.
Perhaps, analogous to what Pres. Trump tried to accomplish during his term as POTUS.
James Lincoln says
somehistory,
It could be argued that Pope Francis is the Antichrist.
And I get no pleasure out of stating that…
somehistory says
James,
from the fruit he is producing, I will say that it looks like the “fruit” of being against Christ and for himself, for the wicked world, for the evil satan.
We are not allowed to judge as to whether a person will be granted life, but we are told to look at the tree, look at the fruit and see for ourselves whether it is a good tree producing good fruit, or if the tree and the fruit produced is rotten.
All rotten trees producing rotten fruit “will be cut down and tossed into the fire.”
gravenimage says
Too true.
Jayell1 says
‘Pope Francis agreed not to speak out against persecution of Christians by Muslims.’
Suppose the whole world had agreed with Hitler not to speak out against the Nazi persecution and annihilation of Jews and other ‘undesirable’ groups of human beings? It’s exactly the same situation since islam is the original definitive proto-Nazi political ideology – the detailed textural comparison between the Qur’an and ‘Mein Kampf’ (still available on the internet?) shows that very clearly. I hate to raise this point, but what did the Catholic Church actually do apropos the German Fuhrer about 80 years ago?
somehistory says
Many people don’t like Jehovah’s Witnesses, But some are unaware of the fact that in the Watchtower magazine of the time of hitler, many articles were exposing his evil, his treatment of the Jews and others. hitler tried to get the bad publicity to stop and when he could not, he began persecuting the Witnesses living in Germany and other places where his army had control. Thousands were sent to the death camps and many of them died there.
Evil has to be exposed, even if it puts one in danger.
gravenimage says
True, Somehistory. Thanks for that reminder. I have some issues with Jehovah’s Witnesses myself, but this was an example of great bravery and moral principle on their parts.
GreekEmpress says
Pope Francis agreed not to speak out against persecution of Christians by Muslims.
And that says it all, doesn’t it?
Reality says
This pope is just an apostate.
gravenimage says
Vatican repudiates papal bulls calling for resistance to jihad violence
………………………………
So now *arming Jihadists* is considered Christian? Suicidal madness.
If Catholics had not defended against Islamic invasion over the course of centuries, not one of us here would be free today.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
While I agreed w/ the Papal decree wrt ‘indigenous peoples’ in the previous thread, I again break w/ him here. Which is par for the course on everything he’s done on islam
Aum says
Francis is a communist.
Westman says
The man has caught the “cancel” disease. Where are the cancel culture liberals, who should be worshipping at the Pope’s feet for joining them? Oh, right, they are atheists. Uh, what is Pope Francis?
NoTaqiyya says
Pope Francis I will go down in history as the dhimmi Pope. His abject surrender to the Saracens is unprecedented and shameful.
His “ecumenical” dialogue with the Grand Mufti Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Ahmed al-Tayeb, is classic taqiyya.
For the concessions are all one sided.
When al-Tayeb abrogates Sura 9:29 it will be a truly ecumenical dialogue.
But that will never happen. Because only the “prophet” in the name of his “Allah” can do that. And the “prophet” is long dead. (…)
In the meantime the infamous “Ramadan bomb-a-thon” will continue every year. (…)
As well as the massacres of Christians in places like Nigeria and everywhere else “the religion of peace” is acting peacefully. (…)
bill carr says
Does this pope know anything or just what his advisers feed him? When have Muslims cared anything about the rights of indigenous peoples?
Pano Farmakidis says
This creep (the pope) does not even use the word “Christian”
Josef says
My heart aches, my soul cringes, my eyes weep. We can only trust the words of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who assures us that the gates of hell will not prevail.
OLD GUY says
That’s a sick picture.
Thomas Hulting says
Clearly, Pope Frank will spend his eternity with the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Ahmed al-Tayeb.
Mike says
It’s things like this as well as that legendary picture that Robert always (appropriately) uses that drive people away from the Roman church in droves. Things like this and Robert’s book The Church and The Pope have led me to orthodoxy.
gravenimage says
I’m afraid there is quite a bit of dhimmitude among Orthodox denominations in many cases as well, Mike–including at the top. Here’s Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill:
“Patriarch Kirill: “Our common task is to counter demonization of Islam””
https://tatarstan.ru/eng/index.htm/news/694472.htm
He has said that Christian Orthodoxy is much closer to Islam than to Catholicism or other Christian denominations. He has lauded the horrors of Islam as moral.
He said: “…The Muslim world is a strong world, and other centers of power, fearing it, seek to demonize Islam…Together we have to defeat the propaganda machine directed against our moral values, and to counter the demonization of Islam in the name of its future”.
tgusa says
I see a lot of refugee columns in the lefts future. I had a dream where I saw the pope trying to join a refugee column but everyone in the column was throwing stones at him.
Rob (Robin) Blair Harris says
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/ramadan-bombathon.aspx
Peter Dale says
What next, one wonders, may we expect from the Vicar of Christ? Why, proposing reparations, of course! Just think of all the destruction caused by the Crusades. They even interrupted the slave trade! Perhaps St Peter’s successor will now propose the sale of the church assets to pay to the descendants of those injured by Christian Europe’s intrusion into the Middle East. Shall we contemplate the transformation of St Peters into a grand mosque? The possibilities are endless.